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Old 05-19-2011, 09:11 PM   #61
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Still going to go over and see if anything can be added.

I didn't use videos becaue I figured the game is so straight-forward that none needed to be posted. Anyone think a video for a certain achievement is going to be needed?

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-Edit descriptions to mention if it's easily boosted and maybe how
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Old 05-19-2011, 09:26 PM   #62
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Got 19 of 36 so far, will update my progress.

The guide is very easy to follow ^^
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Old 05-20-2011, 02:41 PM   #63
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Damn, even though this game doesn't require a guide in my opinion this is a brilliantly put together guide, well done!
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Old 05-21-2011, 12:21 PM   #64
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29/36 Now, thanks a bunch.

EDIT: 30/36 Just got 'Tough as Nails' the hard way.

Also, for all Audio Logs you need to beat campaign in Solo and Versus (Inc- What-if) missions.
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Old 05-21-2011, 06:34 PM   #65
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Old 05-21-2011, 07:37 PM   #66
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this link could be used if people need to get easily to level 20

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Old 05-21-2011, 07:57 PM   #67
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Old 05-21-2011, 08:37 PM   #68
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nice guide man but i finished all 3 star challenges and no achievement any help
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:53 PM   #69
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check what times you got on the challenges, if it runs into overtime you most likely have to do it again
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Still going to go over and see if anything can be added.

I didn't use videos becaue I figured the game is so straight-forward that none needed to be posted. Anyone think a video for a certain achievement is going to be needed?

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-Going to add more description on Audio Logs
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-Look at Maka's Challenge thread
-Edit descriptions to mention if it's easily boosted and maybe how
Consider adding some info on the easiest ways to boost xp for rank 5 too, I know quite a few people who have been looking for good ways.

The method I posted (with disguising operative) can be found in a few brink threads, page 2 of this thread (I think), and the highest rated TA solution for reaching rank 5. Like always, you are free to use any of that information. As far as I've seen, it is the best solo (non-idle) boosting method around.
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nails

so i finished the game on both sides but didnt get tough as nails. what did i do wrong?

i have played both by myself and with a friend to do all the missions.

also, if you create a new characters, does th audio logs not carry over? or do you basically have to do it all over. i didnf complete the challenges before hand.

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Old 05-22-2011, 04:37 AM   #73
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so i guess i didnt move it from coop to versus.

whats the diff? so far a have only noticed that you cant skip the beginning cut scenes. anything else.
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this link could be used if people need to get easily to level 20

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJKjG-I9EtM
I have the same video, but mine is filmed with a HD Capture card.
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Old 05-24-2011, 12:05 AM   #75
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so i guess i didnt move it from coop to versus.

whats the diff? so far a have only noticed that you cant skip the beginning cut scenes. anything else.
Co-op can be set to easy, normal or hard. And, in order to count towards "Tough as nails" it has to be set to hard.

Versus has no difficulty setting (since you have human opponents).

And, yes, the versus games still count even if there aren't any opponents at your rank (and you specified your rank only when you launched). We got the achievement for a friend purposely de-leveling our secondary slots and keeping the versus AI at rank 1 (i.e. no pesky high level abilities). We didn't have any 'recent players' in our XBL list, and didn't see any opponents that even appeared to be human.

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so i finished the game on both sides but didnt get tough as nails. what did i do wrong?

i have played both by myself and with a friend to do all the missions.

also, if you create a new characters, does th audio logs not carry over? or do you basically have to do it all over. i didnf complete the challenges before hand.

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You have to finish both sides on hard (which is a total b*tch) or on versus.

The audio logs are common to all of your characters. Actually, the "Tough as nails" progress is common to all of your chars, too (unlike the story completion acheivements). So, you can simply complete those levels needed with your new slot.

Sadly, the game does NOT show you which dificulty/mode you completed the levels on, so unless you kept track of which were on hard/versus, there isn't a way to determine which ones you need to re-do.

I have just put up an Audio Log Guide -- Complete/Final

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Co-op can be set to easy, normal or hard. And, in order to count towards "Tough as nails" it has to be set to hard.

Versus has no difficulty setting (since you have human opponents).

And, yes, the versus games still count even if there aren't any opponents at your rank (and you specified your rank only when you launched). We got the achievement for a friend purposely de-leveling our secondary slots and keeping the versus AI at rank 1 (i.e. no pesky high level abilities). We didn't have any 'recent players' in our XBL list, and didn't see any opponents that even appeared to be human.


You have to finish both sides on hard (which is a total b*tch) or on versus.

The audio logs are common to all of your characters. Actually, the "Tough as nails" progress is common to all of your chars, too (unlike the story completion acheivements). So, you can simply complete those levels needed with your new slot.

Sadly, the game does NOT show you which dificulty/mode you completed the levels on, so unless you kept track of which were on hard/versus, there isn't a way to determine which ones you need to re-do.

I have just put up an Audio Log Guide -- Complete/Final
thanks i got tough as nails. had to play it again. wasnt too bad.
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Old 05-24-2011, 11:54 PM   #77
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Afterwards start Versus mode. It is important you play on Versus mode from the start of the campaign if you want the easiest time. This gives you more XP, ensures you unlock the needed Audio Logs, and potentially will make your campaign run faster.
This isn't true. You can get all the audio logs playing campaign on hard and skipping versus all together. In the long run it would save time and the frustration of dealing with the online lag.
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Old 05-25-2011, 05:20 AM   #79
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You can get all 74 audio logs in custom 1v0 freeplay.

Not a single one of the audio logs requires a certain rank or level, or playing the campaign, challenges or online.

There are 16 that are mission/level based (for winning each mission/level), there are 16 that are objective based (for satisfying all of the primary objectives on each mission/level), and the remaining 42 are randomly awarded for wins on any level on which you have already won the mission specific or objective specific audio logs, even the same one 42 times in a row, in a custom 1v0 freeplay.

Although, I will agree that playing online (either co-op or versus) is a wise decision, since not only do you get an experience bonus, you are also awarded 2 audio logs per win, effectively cutting your required missions/levels from 72 down to as few as 36. But since it is unlikely that you will be able to shut-out the enemy on all 8 of the defense missions/levels, you will probably have to replay those a couple times (possibly on custom freeplay) to pick up those pesky objective based audio logs.
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I really did think Online Versus was far easier to play. You play against bots for the most part and sometimes a few humans, rarely did I see full groups. What happens then is the humans normally side with you.

I hardly got stuck on any of the missions, though maybe 2 made me replay multiple times.

Epic: Saw your PM to me, haven't gotten around to checking things out. Been quite busy.

Maka: I'll link your Challenge thread in the guide, I'm too busy to make my own so thank you for taking the time to.

A.Gamer: Thanks for clearing up the Audio Log stuff. I literally got 5/11 and had it complete by 5/13 (since it passed midnight!). I got the Audio Logs without any issues, seeing as I played Versus after getting bored of playing solo. I guess that is why I have been highly suggesting Versus, because I got all the Audio Logs quite quickly doing it. I hardly ever lost and never bothered to "change sides" if losing. I'll add your link to the guide as well to clear it up for people, nice research.
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Old 06-06-2011, 02:45 PM   #81
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Nice Guide so far, but you should seperate Step 1 into Challenges and Campaign.
Also you dont need to do the 1 and 2 Star Challenges with one character and then create a new one to do 1-3.

If you do all the challenges with a different character the Weapon Attachements will be unlocked for the first, too.
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Old 06-07-2011, 02:29 PM   #82
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Thanks, great guide. Currently working on time to start another character and tough as nails. Shame there's no way to track the latter I can't remember which maps I've won
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Old 06-22-2011, 02:13 AM   #86
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Yeah, my brother. I'm always looking for a good co-op game and i thought this could be it. Also, my connection to live is sometimes shaky and isn't always a pleasant gaming experience.

Sorry for hijacking the thread, Tyger.

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Old 06-28-2011, 09:49 PM   #87
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:23 AM   #88
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Just an FI, I just got tough as nails having the options set to Co-op and hard. Its alot easier when its 6-8 humans v AI.

Also, why cant we co-op challenges because they are a pain in the ass? Level 2 objective one, cant seem to hack the stupid box without getting 6 shotguns up my ass before I'v managed to get away. Tips?
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guide is ok. Some descriptions need a little work.

my main complaint is it should be split and organized between stuff you can do easily solo vs stuff that's easy to boost with a partner.

XP boosting for example. An awesome no hastle method is to set up a private match on the terminal level with an operative on the security side and an engineer on the rebel side and to take turns placing and removing hack boxes on the terminal. Once you get the hang of it, the person playing security gets 8000+ while the rebel usually gets 10,000+.

one thing that ought to be changed is saying to save the 3 star challenges for last. I didn't check to see if you had to start them all over again by making a new character, but I'd suggest doing all 3 stars for escort, defense, and objective first and save parkour for last. Parkour doesn't have enemies that get unfairly better as you level up.

That being said, you can also make the challenges with enemies easier if you sell off your characters attributes. You lower your characters level by 1 every time you do that and the CPU is much less aggressive vs. lower level characters.
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This did not work for me or any of my 5 friends ive played with.
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