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Old 01-16-2013, 02:22 PM   #31
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On Misson 3 don't make the mistake of turning back after defeating those enemies without getting hit or it triggers more. Or fall down the gap while trying to make the jump across to Kat.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:16 PM   #32
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A few questions:
Is Nephilim pretty much the new Devil Hunter mode? If you just have to SSS those, it can't be too bad right?

Are there still holy waters? And bought with orbs?

Is there an infinite respawn part in heaven and hell mode like in DMC 4? 5k is a lot.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:40 PM   #33
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A few questions:
Is Nephilim pretty much the new Devil Hunter mode? If you just have to SSS those, it can't be too bad right?

Are there still holy waters? And bought with orbs?

Is there an infinite respawn part in heaven and hell mode like in DMC 4? 5k is a lot.
OK. I have never played any of the previous ones so I will answer best I can based on just what I know about this one.

Nephilim difficulty is one of three starting options. They can be switched at any time. So Nephilim is the hardest of the base 3, but not that hard.

If you are talking about health items there are 2. One gives you part of your health back, the other gives you all of it. They are bought with Red Orbs and found in missions and you can carry 10 of each. There are also Gold Orbs that you can carry 3 that allow you to die and continue on, not from checkpoint.

There are a LOT of checkpoints. So you can use a Gold Orb if you have one, or just start back at the last checkpoint. Each item and death counts against your total score.
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Old 01-16-2013, 05:42 PM   #34
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i found this achievements easier on mission 15 "The Trade" just by playing trough i got the 2min achievement and at my second try i easily got the no Damage achievement.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:15 PM   #35
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OK. I have never played any of the previous ones so I will answer best I can based on just what I know about this one.

Nephilim difficulty is one of three starting options. They can be switched at any time. So Nephilim is the hardest of the base 3, but not that hard.

If you are talking about health items there are 2. One gives you part of your health back, the other gives you all of it. They are bought with Red Orbs and found in missions and you can carry 10 of each. There are also Gold Orbs that you can carry 3 that allow you to die and continue on, not from checkpoint.

There are a LOT of checkpoints. So you can use a Gold Orb if you have one, or just start back at the last checkpoint. Each item and death counts against your total score.
holy waters are pretty much mini nukes that take out most the baddies. not great for style, but gets you through the tough parts later on.
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Old 01-16-2013, 08:01 PM   #36
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holy waters are pretty much mini nukes that take out most the baddies. not great for style, but gets you through the tough parts later on.
Nope that is not in there. There is Devil Trigger ability that you earn through damaging enemies that allows you to do more damage and heals you.
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Old 01-16-2013, 10:24 PM   #37
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for the SSS do you have to do all the criteria in 1 go or can you split it up, say do the time and then play the chapter again and go for the style points, can it be done like this or do you have to do everything in 1 try for each chapter?

this is for the Nephilim chapters achievement.

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So, basically if I collect all collectibles on Human, they also count as SSS for Nephilim? Is that right?

And also, in the guide it says that you need to get Aquilla, so you can get all the collectibles. Later you posted that you only need to get to Mission 6, so you get Eryx? So, do I need Aquilla or not?

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Old 01-18-2013, 07:16 AM   #39
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Didn't see this posted over here so...

If anyone is struggling with Nephilim SSS Ranks, found this tip on our sister site.

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OK, on each mission, assuming that you already have the SSS for 100% completion, and that u already know the path of the mission meaning you won't lose much time, granting at worst a SS for time, SSS rank will depend mainly on getting a SSS for the style score
If you mess one or more of the fights during the mission, losing your multiplier from a stupid enemy hit, this could prevent you from getting the SSS for style. And reloading from checkpoint is equivalent to a death, and a decrease of 10% for each reload at your final score
But exit to main menu, and using continue (same effect than a checkpoint reload except you don't get back your whole health), doesn't count as a death!
So, if you mess a fight, exit to main menu and use continue. You'll get back at the beginning of the fight, not counting a death. With this tip, SSS ranking is quite a breeze
Edit: You can probably also put the time down to 30/35+ hours.

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Old 01-18-2013, 07:35 AM   #40
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So, basically if I collect all collectibles on Human, they also count as SSS for Nephilim? Is that right?

And also, in the guide it says that you need to get Aquilla, so you can get all the collectibles. Later you posted that you only need to get to Mission 6, so you get Eryx? So, do I need Aquilla or not?

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Once you have the collectibles you will have SSS on ALL difficulties.

You need the Aquilla for some. I updated the guide, but haven't changed my posts.
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Okay, thank you.
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Aside from the SSS Nephilim, this shouldn't be too hard.

That is assuming all the other difficulties aren't that hard.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:18 PM   #43
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Aside from the SSS Nephilim, this shouldn't be too hard.

That is assuming all the other difficulties aren't that hard.
SSS Nephilim isn't even hard. I got atleast an S on every mission on Dante Must Die first try.

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im struggling badly on human mode to get even 1 SSS on style points, that demon evade is useless having it set at RT and RB, it's impossible to hold the controller like that and play the game, most times i have been hit out of nowhere too by an enemy, it's a bit unfair you have to build up each rank when it can then get knocked down rank in an instant.

surprised to not see easier combo's too like using A+X. Y+B, etc.

there's hardly any way of really grabbing orbs for health kits either, the boss on mission 14 just literally took all of mine just to beat it on human mode.

no chance of me ever completing this game as i just can't get to grips with the control system of the game.

much preferred Bayonetta.
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im struggling badly on human mode to get even 1 SSS on style points, that demon evade is useless having it set at RT and RB, it's impossible to hold the controller like that and play the game, most times i have been hit out of nowhere too by an enemy, it's a bit unfair you have to build up each rank when it can then get knocked down rank in an instant.

surprised to not see easier combo's too like using A+X. Y+B, etc.

there's hardly any way of really grabbing orbs for health kits either, the boss on mission 14 just literally took all of mine just to beat it on human mode.

no chance of me ever completing this game as i just can't get to grips with the control system of the game.

much preferred Bayonetta.
You can map the buttons however you want.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:31 PM   #46
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You can map the buttons however you want.
i know, but it's then hard to work out where exactly to put the buttons to suit as they are actually laid out ok, it's just this demon evade set up, i think should have been made by using the jump button and the left thumbstick in a direction to do the slow-mo evade like you could do in bayonetta.
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Old 01-19-2013, 12:08 AM   #47
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i know, but it's then hard to work out where exactly to put the buttons to suit as they are actually laid out ok, it's just this demon evade set up, i think should have been made by using the jump button and the left thumbstick in a direction to do the slow-mo evade like you could do in bayonetta.

LB also evades. Use that with RT for the demon evade.
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LB also evades. Use that with RT for the demon evade.
yeah i tried that too, at least it was a little better, i still think evading at the right time for a slo-mo move would have been a better option.
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where is the best place to farm red orbs? im running out of health so im looking to farm the orbs so i can buy some health items as i hardly get any red orbs, especially with the price of the health items being so steep.
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Old 01-19-2013, 03:02 PM   #50
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well im done with this game, im just going to finish the story on human and that's it for me, well done to those who can complete this game but it's not for me, bayonetta did everything so well but this game is just a joke, shit camera angles, no lock on to targets, hardly any red orbs to buy health, cheap hits especially from long range and floors, etc that just suddenly disappear where you have to be psychic to see it before it happens.

even castlevania: LOS was a for better game than this, it could have been a decent game for me but controls are too over complicated and with over powered enemies, and this is on human mode.


so not for me.
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Seriously I don't get all the rage, it's just a matter of getting used to them.
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Seriously I don't get all the rage, it's just a matter of getting used to them.
ignore me im just annoyed at times in the game that just cheat me out of something and im just letting off some steam, i got right close to a SSS in combat only for a weak enemy to hit me from behind and it dropped to a B rank, it's just things like that i hate, even when timing things right i still get hit by a cheap shot from nowhere.
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Dont even try that on your first playthrough, make it fun, believe me on Son of Sparda you will get a lot better. Always use your demon dodge and the arbiter, I get SSS on basically every fight. Right now I'm on Dante must die, being new to the DMC series I find it hard but doable. I'm still getting the SSS in combat. Don't let your human playthrough ruin the experience, I found it hard at first as well. Good Luck
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Dont even try that on your first playthrough, make it fun, believe me on Son of Sparda you will get a lot better. Always use your demon dodge and the arbiter, I get SSS on basically every fight. Right now I'm on Dante must die, being new to the DMC series I find it hard but doable. I'm still getting the SSS in combat. Don't let your human playthrough ruin the experience, I found it hard at first as well. Good Luck
on the higher difficulties do you get more damage bonus or xp to help get the rank up?

also when you do a level do you have to get SSS on style and time at the same time, or can you just do the style then do the chapter again just for the time?
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I believe its the same. And the SSS ranks its all in 1 run, Style is pretty easy, all I did was wait for them to strike and demon dodges level 2, then spammed trinity smash lv 2 (arbiter YY hold Y) and easily got SSS on all levels on Nephilim.

Ill post my times so you can see one does get slightly better:
Human 10 hours
Son of Sparda 5 hours
Heaven or Hell 2 hours
Nephilim 3:34 hours

(Upgrades take a while since they are 79) I got my last upgrade on my current run which is DMD.

On a side note: the controls for the game were uber hard for me at first but with each run you get used to it and a lot better.
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I believe its the same. And the SSS ranks its all in 1 run, Style is pretty easy, all I did was wait for them to strike and demon dodges level 2, then spammed trinity smash lv 2 (arbiter YY hold Y) and easily got SSS on all levels on Nephilim.

Ill post my times so you can see one does get slightly better:
Human 10 hours
Son of Sparda 5 hours
Heaven or Hell 2 hours
Nephilim 3:34 hours

(Upgrades take a while since they are 79) I got my last upgrade on my current run which is DMD.

On a side note: the controls for the game were uber hard for me at first but with each run you get used to it and a lot better.
im going back through on human for the collectables at the moment, shame you cannot just do the style points rank first then the chapter again to do the time rank as that would have made it easier for me on the Nephilim run if i try it.

i do struggle with the bosses though, i just don't seem to be able to avoid their attacks, i'll have to watch some video's to see how to avoid them.
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Bosses are the same Arbiter strategy. The only one I find tedious is Mundus Spawn. I finished my DMD run on 4:39 hours and Hell and Hell is really easy with Super Dante.
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Bosses are the same Arbiter strategy. The only one I find tedious is Mundus Spawn. I finished my DMD run on 4:39 hours and Hell and Hell is really easy with Super Dante.
what's the difference with using super dante and how do you unlock him?
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what's the difference with using super dante and how do you unlock him?
Unlimited Devil Trigger, complete Dante Must Die.
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I believe its the same. And the SSS ranks its all in 1 run, Style is pretty easy, all I did was wait for them to strike and demon dodges level 2, then spammed trinity smash lv 2 (arbiter YY hold Y) and easily got SSS on all levels on Nephilim.
that combo is good, i also like the stinger i think it's called where you do a long range darting attack and it can do some good damage.

any decent combo with any angel weapons you can tell me about?
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