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Old 02-18-2012, 07:05 PM   #31
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The quest natural order (found it in glendara) has a persuasion option at the end of the caverns.
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Old 02-19-2012, 05:35 AM   #32
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What do you mean? Are you saying starting a new game lets you accumulate persuasion points from an older save? Because you can't complete the achievement just in 6 hours since many persuasion opportunities are found in the faction and main quests.
what i meant by starting a new game is if you messed up around the start of the game like i did and missed a good about 5-10 its easier to start a new game.

as for 6 hours i did the entire main story, 3 factions too the end (only did the start of sorrows), and a bunch of quests. i ignored 70% of monsters and fast traveled as often as i could.

and no they do not stack between games, i was at 39ish on my first play through.
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Old 02-19-2012, 06:42 PM   #33
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Thanks for all the work putting this list together. I didn't start using it til I was into the game awhile. I had already completed Warsworn and Traveler faction quests and I'd failed 5 or 6 persuasions earlier in the game. I just got the achievement with quite a few on the list that I hadn't done or progressed far enough to do.

I still haven't been to the eastern area and I'd estimate there are at least 65 opportunities based on the ones I failed and what's still on the list I haven't done.
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Old 02-20-2012, 02:06 AM   #34
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2 more in the red marches. One from just talking the first guy in the town about treasure and the second at the end of the quest that leads you into the tomb.
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Old 02-20-2012, 06:45 PM   #35
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Having a hard time getting this to pop...
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Old 02-20-2012, 09:02 PM   #36
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Got it a few minutes ago. I've finished Dalentarth and most of Erathell (never gone to Detyre), so plenty room to spare even if you miss a few.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:36 AM   #37
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In the House of Sorrows quest 'Proving Grounds' there are three persuasion attempts at different points during the initiation.

You have to do a 'gauntlet' of survival and choice-making so that the king can get an idea of who you are. He communicates through a blue crystal ball and talks to you in between each challenge.

Make sure to save before each conversation, I have maxed out persuasion and all three attempts had a 62% chance of success. Had to reload a few times for one of them to succeed.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:38 PM   #38
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This helped a lot thanks.

I missed a good amount during the story but had my skill maxed out, going through the random side quests i had it by the end of your list.
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Old 02-22-2012, 02:25 AM   #39
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I was wondering whether I was wasting my time posting in this thread but it looks like OP updates it regularly.

Good work, this should be stickied for the benefit of future users.
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Old 02-22-2012, 06:13 AM   #40
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Thanks for the tips

I was pretty scared I wasn't going to be able to get the achievement because I missed quite a few of the persuasion attempts in the beginning. I just barely got the achievement, 76 hours in and 189 quests completed, on what I think would have been the last persuasion attempt possible for me XD (just finishing up the Scholia Arcana).
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Old 02-22-2012, 04:29 PM   #41
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I was wondering whether I was wasting my time posting in this thread but it looks like OP updates it regularly.

Good work, this should be stickied for the benefit of future users.
I believe that i listed most, if not all of the persuasion attempts. I didn't touch side missions before finishing the game on hard.

The way i did this was to list main quests, faction quests and then the rest in that order. Maybe that could've been done differently, but i'm not sure.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:16 AM   #42
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Hey, could I link this in my guide over at PS3T ?
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Old 02-26-2012, 12:29 PM   #43
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:24 PM   #44
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During the rebuilding Seawatch quest, there is a persuasion attempt when going after the second servant.

I finally got my achievement to pop yesterday but continuing to look for options as they come up
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Old 02-26-2012, 02:36 PM   #45
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another attempt for the third servant in rebuilding seawatch. Even with a maxed persuasion skill, I only had a 72% chance for success. You also have the option to buy the item
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Old 02-26-2012, 04:05 PM   #46
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Got this last night, 60 hours in. Only have 3 points in persuasion (1 book, 2 trainers) and I had no trouble. Just save before you are about to turn in quests, as many times the NPC will have persuasion options in the dialogue. I did the save/load trick when I failed, but truthfully I passed most of them, even with only 3 skill points.
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Old 02-26-2012, 05:09 PM   #47
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Tremendous thread man, thanks for all the hard work.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:35 PM   #48
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I think there are enough persuasion options cause i got the achievement before i went to the second island but missed some persuasion options in the beginning. This guide really helped me alot. they should make it a sticky.
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Old 03-02-2012, 11:30 PM   #49
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There is a third persuasion on The House of No Doors, Oneth Tansand (Receptionist) right before you go to the window grill.
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Old 03-06-2012, 09:23 AM   #50
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nice thread, thank you.
so far THIS IS THE most annoying cheevo this year !
and I still can't understand why should beatin' the game on hardcore should be secret, does not make sense <arghhhhh>
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Old 04-16-2012, 07:36 AM   #51
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I failed

After 95h of Gameplay and more than 130 Quests done, there is no Chance to get this Achievement anymore...
F***!!!

Seems I need to start a new game.

Or maybe wait until the Teeth of Naros comes out here - hopefully with more opportunities for Persuasion!
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Old 04-18-2012, 06:27 AM   #52
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I've encountered two persuasion attempts so far in the 'Teeth of Naros'. Both came as part of the main quest line through dialogue with the questgiver. I haven't completed the DLC, so I'm not certain if there are any more than two.
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Old 04-18-2012, 04:10 PM   #53
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Yeeeeaaaaahhhhhhh!!!!

This 2 Persuasions at the beginning of the DLC has been exactly what I was missing!!!!

Great!
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Old 04-18-2012, 09:05 PM   #54
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I found 6 more persuasion attempts in Teeth of Naros, in addition to the two already mentioned. So there are 2 as part of the main quest and can't be missed, and 6 split over two side quests that become available once the main quest line is complete. Happy to expand on the details but have left this post spoiler-free
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Old 04-26-2012, 04:13 PM   #55
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Thanks for posting this! Thought I would add another that I did not see on the main list

Faction Quests:

The House of Sorrows Faction quest named 'Such Sweet Sorrow' has a persuasion option at the end when confronting Bisarane in Esharra.
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:44 AM   #56
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there are quite a few attempts in "bell, book and candle" quest. its from a dude in tala-rune named Faitir Scaith
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Old 08-16-2012, 11:58 PM   #57
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Teeth Of Naros
- At the end of Teeth of Naros (Quest) you'll talk to Secrenda, there are two persuasions here.
- In Sharpen In Iniquity when you loot the sarcophagus Secrenda will AUTOMATICALLY talk to you, 1 persuasion here.
- (Side Quest - Pacetor in Idylla) In Labour Of Love, after checking the statue and you go back to talk to him there is a persuasion here.

Thats all I'm doing of Teeth Of Naros, if I ever do any more and find some I'll post them.

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Old 12-16-2012, 12:35 PM   #58
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Thank you very much for this!!

I must have about 40ish after I had finished the main story and faction quests.

This list helped me get the rest fairly easily by just targeting the side quests that I had remaining that had persuasion attempts in.
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:37 PM   #59
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thanks for the great list!
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:52 PM   #60
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Got the achiev at 100h of gameplay.
Already did Dalentarth and Legend of Dead Kel. Almost finishing Plains of Erathel. Did not touch Detyre, Klurikon, Teeth of Naros or Alabastra

So, I think this achiev comes naturally.
All I did was reload sometimes when I failed. Not allways because I'd lose a lot of gameplay hours. Only when I entered a building and get the autosave.
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