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Old 03-26-2013, 12:33 PM   #1
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Bonfire Expert

This is driving me insane, finally managed to get the daredevil achievement but cant for the life of me get even close to 30k on this.

The assassins just always ruin your run, i was even on 12k with 46 seconds on the clock and only managed to get to 17k before time run out, which coincidentally is my best score!

Anyone got any tips?

This as well as the back alley brawl challenge (including by my hand alone cheevo) are the only things left i have to do for the DLC and i'm refusing to fail since i have came this far

I've heard there is a glitch which takes out the assassins which i hate doing but may be tempted on this occasion.
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Old 03-26-2013, 01:37 PM   #2
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There really isn't any way to provide tips. Even if you're insanely good at the game, if an assassin is facing the wrong way (i.e. toward you as you land a teleport through a beam) and starts wailing on you, you're fucked. If the assassins get bunched up in any area and you have to go anywhere NEAR where they're at, you're fucked. If you miss more than ONE jump during your run, you're fucked. If the game decides to spawn the beams of light at opposite ends of the map over and over, you're fucked. If the beams spawn in odd patterns that make passing through mana vials difficult, you're probably fucked.

Basically there's 100 ways the game can screw you, and only by a lot of skill and even more luck for good beam of light spawns will you finish it on Expert, even WITHOUT the assassins, because if the beams don't spawn right you'll waste too much time getting mana vials.

I would suggest just keep restarting if you're doing poorly or the assassins get ahold of you and cost you any time at all between one beam of light and the next. The glitch isn't intentionally triggerable, and seems to happen only after quite a while of failed attempts and restarting. It *may* have something to do with restarting after you've fallen into the void just as the music changes, similar to the mana glitch on train runner.

If you're really stuck and just want to get it out of the way, no one is going to fault you (or even know for that matter) if you spend a couple hours restarting Bonfires until the assassins disappear. Once they're gone, they don't seem to come back if you mess up and have to restart again without them there unless you back out of the trial and re launch it.

I posted a separate thread with my personal strategy for By My Hand Alone that is nearly fool proof. You do still have to get very good at back alley brawl in order to make it to wave 7 or 8 before you start using bend time, but considering I had 3 mana vials left at the end, I could've used my bend time in rounds 6, 7, and 8 and still been fine with my oil can method for the Tall Boys. My method takes patience as waiting on oil cans to spawn to set it up is tedious and boring, but it makes rounds 10-12 cake city.
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Old 03-26-2013, 02:13 PM   #3
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Thanks for the advice buddy!

Guess im just going to have to stick with it, i will do it if it kills me

Just had a quick look at your 'by my hand alone' advice, looks very helpful but wont know until i try it out! Thanks again!
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:06 AM   #4
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No problem man. Bonfires on expert took me several hours and By My Hand Alone took even more. On the bright side don't worry about getting 3 stars on Back Alley. If you mess up on By My Hand just restart. You will DEFINITELY pass 30k if you get By My Hand. I kept playing after it popped and had 70k before I finally died. Wave 13 is never ending and merchants spawn a lot during it lol.
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Old 03-27-2013, 09:13 AM   #5
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Well played Bonfire expert for about an hour last night and quite often got to 25/26/27k so it gives me hope that some time soon i will get lucky and get to 30k.

Was a bit sickening on one attempt, i was at 22k with 46 seconds left but got trapped by 3 assassins and died

Not looking forward to by my hand alone already! I'm hoping your whale tank method should cut down the number of attempts at it though!
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Old 03-28-2013, 02:56 AM   #6
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Yeah I only devised the whale tank method after several hours of failed attempts. It takes a while to set up but its totally worth it. I would suggest just play to round 10-12 without worrying about by my hand and look closely at where the tall boys spawn so you can place the oil cans porperly.
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