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Old 03-02-2014, 10:25 AM   #31
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I get the whole "I like my privacy and don't agree with being watched" but I have to admit you do sound like the kind of person that fears the lizard people.

Like others have mentioned how is Kinect any different from other forms of surveillance or information gathering that people enter into freely without question? I remember a while back I thought it would be fun to count how many CCTV cameras I walked by on my way to work. Those 30 cameras could tell more about who I am as a person than my Kinect sitting in my bedroom.

The only reason the Kinect is causing a stir is because when it was first announced that it would always be on, the people that hate on kinect lost their shit. I understand the Kinect could potentially be used for collecting and storing mugshots like the article says but unless we live in a Minority Report style world all that is is simply a file without any direct practical application. What about people who detail every aspect of their lives on Facebook and Twitter? How come no one is jumping up and down screaming the beginning of an authoritarian government there?

Like I said, I understand where people are coming from when they bring up issues like privacy in regards to surveillance in general but it just seems as if a certain portion of the online community is highlighting the Kinect not because of its connection to the issue at hand but rather because they are anti-MS or are one of those people who despite never using the new generation of Kinect or at the very least, given it a try, are grasping at straws in the vain hope that MS will release a Kinect-less Bundle.
You are correct about CCTV cameras invading our lives when outdoors. The local TV station did a story on the ones not used for red light cameras. They were told that the cameras were for public safety. When questioned, they would not answer WHO has access to the cameras or who maintains them. As of now, they are probably local governments / law enforcement using them. I've said before that we have a rather benign government at the moment and they don't REALLY intrude on our personal freedoms. But, as the government gets bigger, and gains more control over our lives, they COULD start intruding on our personal lives, while we watch our freedoms dwindle away. Right now, a person who enjoys a little herbal entertainment can do so in the privacy of his own home without interference. Now, you don't see most of these people walking down the street, under surveillance, enjoying the same pleasures. Could they be detained if seen on the street from the camera? Right now, probably isn't going to happen. Microsoft, Sony, Yahoo, and Google would all have to bow to the pressure of the federal government if they indeed wanted access to these devices. Suddenly, what we've all come to know as good science fiction now has become science future.

Do I care if they see me in my skivvies? No. I have the box unplugged when not in use so it isn't a problem. I just think people slowly, over time, give up their privacy without even knowing about it. Take Obamacare for example. Now that you have insurance through the program, you are not ALLOWED to switch plans UNTIL you have another plan. We are actually LETTING the government take control of our lives. Just hope people don't come to realize this too late. Information is power. We need to know about these plans that may or may not occur.

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Old 03-02-2014, 10:32 AM   #32
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Like I said, I understand where people are coming from when they bring up issues like privacy in regards to surveillance in general but it just seems as if a certain portion of the online community is highlighting the Kinect not because of its connection to the issue at hand but rather because they are anti-MS or are one of those people who despite never using the new generation of Kinect or at the very least, given it a try, are grasping at straws in the vain hope that MS will release a Kinect-less Bundle.
I've seen people in there unboxing videos open the box and throw the Kinect across the room... I HATE those people didn't even try it
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Tbh I don't really care.

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What sort of "intelligence" could they really gain from this? I really dob't care, but it seems to be too much for nothing.
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What sort of "intelligence" could they really gain from this? I really dob't care, but it seems to be too much for nothing.
The citizens of Nazi Germany thought the same thing; what do I care if it's the Jews, communists, homosexuals, Roma, or handicapped? Then they found out, sooner or later, they'll come for you too. They won't need a reason because there will be no one left to stand up to them.
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What sort of "intelligence" could they really gain from this? I really dob't care, but it seems to be too much for nothing.
To right if they wanted to spy on us I think the Kinect would be one of the last things they will try to spy on us with first would be our computers phones ipods ipads hell even a CP radio why watch a lot of nerds play video games theres no power or anything they can gain from this but wasting all the tax payers money
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The citizens of Nazi Germany thought the same thing; what do I care if it's the Jews, communists, homosexuals, Roma, or handicapped? Then they found out, sooner or later, they'll come for you too. They won't need a reason because there will be no one left to stand up to them.
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I thought it was funny that these people get paid to get off on hot pics "investigate" threats.
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The citizens of Nazi Germany thought the same thing; what do I care if it's the Jews, communists, homosexuals, Roma, or handicapped? Then they found out, sooner or later, they'll come for you too. They won't need a reason because there will be no one left to stand up to them.
Whoa there pal. I think that is slightly different.
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I think most people are thinking in the "now" instead of looking to the future. Now, its pointless to spy thru the kinect. Once it is installed in millions of homes, who know? At least out in public, you know they're watching. Not so much in your home. 1984, THX-1138 and Eagle Eye may not be Science Fiction but Science Future. Just sayin'...
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Old 03-03-2014, 12:12 AM   #42
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The citizens of Nazi Germany thought the same thing; what do I care if it's the Jews, communists, homosexuals, Roma, or handicapped? Then they found out, sooner or later, they'll come for you too. They won't need a reason because there will be no one left to stand up to them.
Err right... How can you even compare that to this...? You better be careful or the spaceships will come and abduct you again.
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I think most people are thinking in the "now" instead of looking to the future. Now, its pointless to spy thru the kinect. Once it is installed in millions of homes, who know? At least out in public, you know they're watching. Not so much in your home. 1984, THX-1138 and Eagle Eye may not be Science Fiction but Science Future. Just sayin'...
Im sure you'll be fine if you put your tin-foil hat back on...
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The citizens of Nazi Germany thought the same thing; what do I care if it's the Jews, communists, homosexuals, Roma, or handicapped? Then they found out, sooner or later, they'll come for you too. They won't need a reason because there will be no one left to stand up to them.
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