Dante XBA Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Nightfall is really starting to piss me off. Skill has nothing to do with it - I am goddam sure they amped up something to make this shit harder. In the first area, second hive, I got a 50% accuracy challenge. Sure why not? 1 bullet, knife the rest. NOPE. 6 scouts, all attacking me, nearly fucking died. First goddam area! Then it continues in the second area. Fucking Phantom isn't announced by the rumble as normal, so while I'm shooting two Scorpions and two Hunters, this asshole with his higher damage nearly fucking downs me again. Whatever. I survive and move on to the next hive. 15 AR kills? Sure. Swap out custom SVU for ARX-160 and go to town. Nope. Two Rhinos, 3 Hunters, 2 Scorpions. Fuck me, right? Last hive, furious by this point, new challenge is avoid Seeker damage. Not too bad. Kill the first meteor and grunts. Great. Another meteor? All right, I'm geared up. NOPE FUCK YOU. Rhino, 4 Hunters (3 for me, 1 for drill), and now the goddam Seekers that I have to avoid. So I run, raving swears in my head, while I deal with the fucking army after me. I barely kill them, and guess what? Goddam Hunter raping the drill, it's almost destroyed and I'm 30+ meters away. I make a sprint for it even though I know I'm goddam screwed. Tell me, how the fuck am I supposed to kill all these aliens by myself, do the challenges, AND keep the drill going if I'm fighting a goddam miniature army? Uugggh. Whatever. I'm going to try a pistol only relic and see if that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmbledore Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I agree. Some of these challenges are real asshole challenges. I had a challenge once to kill a phantom while it was jumping. The problem was that a phantom did not appear! The difficulty is way above veteran. Its impossible to get very far with randoms. They really need to consider what type of challenges to throw at players based on where they are in the game. It just seems way too luck based as far as making it to the end while completing the challenges. Throwing tons of meteors at hive 11 and asking us to avoid getting hit by them is practically impossible when you have to deal with multiple Rhinos and many aggressive enemies. Killing a phantom while its jumping and only spawning one is stupid as stupid gets. They did, however, make the Leper challenge more easier by spawning it closer to the players. Sniper rifle challenges are also idiotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnarmedReaper07 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Glad I didn't buy the dlc. Extinction should of been free like every halo 4 spartan ops though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmbledore Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Glad I didn't buy the dlc. Extinction should of been free like every halo 4 spartan ops though. If achievements are tied to DLC, everyone charges for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bean is not pro Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 so I never run solo, as I find it pretty difficult, and I admit that it's certainly more challenging than the first one, but it's very manageable with a team of four. this weekend, I beat it twice while getting all challenges. i'd happily run some games with you if you'd like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VVh1pCr3am Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Nightfall is really starting to piss me off. Skill has nothing to do with it - I am goddam sure they amped up something to make this shit harder. In the first area, second hive, I got a 50% accuracy challenge. Sure why not? 1 bullet, knife the rest. NOPE. 6 scouts, all attacking me, nearly fucking died. First goddam area! Then it continues in the second area. Fucking Phantom isn't announced by the rumble as normal, so while I'm shooting two Scorpions and two Hunters, this asshole with his higher damage nearly fucking downs me again. Whatever. I survive and move on to the next hive. 15 AR kills? Sure. Swap out custom SVU for ARX-160 and go to town. Nope. Two Rhinos, 3 Hunters, 2 Scorpions. Fuck me, right? Last hive, furious by this point, new challenge is avoid Seeker damage. Not too bad. Kill the first meteor and grunts. Great. Another meteor? All right, I'm geared up. NOPE FUCK YOU. Rhino, 4 Hunters (3 for me, 1 for drill), and now the goddam Seekers that I have to avoid. So I run, raving swears in my head, while I deal with the fucking army after me. I barely kill them, and guess what? Goddam Hunter raping the drill, it's almost destroyed and I'm 30+ meters away. I make a sprint for it even though I know I'm goddam screwed. Tell me, how the fuck am I supposed to kill all these aliens by myself, do the challenges, AND keep the drill going if I'm fighting a goddam miniature army? Uugggh. Whatever. I'm going to try a pistol only relic and see if that helps. You're not supposed to do this map by yourself. You're supposed to have a team to do this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XGC Bobwell12 Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 You're not supposed to do this map by yourself. You're supposed to have a team to do this one. You can beat the map on solo and no you don't have to have a team. I've beaten it on solo twice, once with the cash relic on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante XBA Posted February 4, 2014 Author Share Posted February 4, 2014 You're not supposed to do this map by yourself. You're supposed to have a team to do this one. http://www.lily.fi/sites/lily/files/user/1717/2013/04/nicolas-cage-you-dont-say.jpg You can beat the map on solo and no you don't have to have a team. I've beaten it on solo twice, once with the cash relic on. Well fuck all if I know what I'm doing wrong. Just tried again and got to the very last fucking hive before the Breeder. I'd be up for a team game if you know what you're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Juicy Pie Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45672790.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckleberry Finn Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/500x/45672790.jpg I'm from those Pepperidge farm days and while, yes some gamers have a whinge unjustly, this nightfall map is just bonkers! I've played many a hard game and the harder the better as long as its about skill. This map doesn't seem like its about skill so much as just dropping every enemy twice over and then 3 meteors with those ticker things and then 2 rhinos. I hate to be a negative nancy but I have to agree with op on this, IW sure did ramp up the bullshit on this map, I can only imagine what the next map will be like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caramel Cardinal Posted February 6, 2014 Share Posted February 6, 2014 You're not supposed to do this map by yourself. You're supposed to have a team to do this one. it can be done solo, i actually find it easier solo then with randoms since there's less enemies and there weaker if doing it solo though i recommend using a specialist class since the upgraded damage is extremely useful, upgrading pistol to 2 weapons first then upgrading specialist followed by sentry take armour piercing rounds, armour and a riot shield for back take Lsat early on then replace it with chainsaw in 2nd area, use your 2nd weapon slot for challenge weapons armour piercing to the head of the breeder for lsat in first area works wonders, if you have a couple of upgrades on it and are accurate you can kill it in less than 30 seconds 3rd area you need to keep turning the 2 generators on this kills 50% of the men that spawn using this method i've done it 6 times, even did it for my brother yesteday, got every achievement except venom x and relic ones in his first game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFreakinCabbag3 Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 I'm from those Pepperidge farm days and while, yes some gamers have a whinge unjustly, this nightfall map is just bonkers! I've played many a hard game and the harder the better as long as its about skill. This map doesn't seem like its about skill so much as just dropping every enemy twice over and then 3 meteors with those ticker things and then 2 rhinos. I hate to be a negative nancy but I have to agree with op on this, IW sure did ramp up the bullshit on this map, I can only imagine what the next map will be like. You should try having an engineer with a Maverick and duel pistols. I'm by no means the best survival player but using this set up it makes everything alot easier as the traps reduce the trash alot and the duel pistols will destroy the larger enemies in a few clips. (full auto) Whilst this is alot harder than the first map due to less pointless enemies as soon as you reach area 2, this is by no means as hard as people make it out to be. Once you get used to the map it becomes alot less daunting, just keep running it you'll make it further and further each time as you'll not get blindsided as often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckleberry Finn Posted February 9, 2014 Share Posted February 9, 2014 You should try having an engineer with a Maverick and duel pistols. I'm by no means the best survival player but using this set up it makes everything alot easier as the traps reduce the trash alot and the duel pistols will destroy the larger enemies in a few clips. (full auto) Whilst this is alot harder than the first map due to less pointless enemies as soon as you reach area 2, this is by no means as hard as people make it out to be. Once you get used to the map it becomes alot less daunting, just keep running it you'll make it further and further each time as you'll not get blindsided as often. Thanks for the advice, never really played as the engineer, and I only ever put one point in pistols normally. But I'll try just about anything to finish this dang map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xVSiKVx Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 Wow all I hear is a crybaby. 'Furious by this point' <--- actually cracked a laugh out loud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knuckleberry Finn Posted February 14, 2014 Share Posted February 14, 2014 Wow all I hear is a crybaby. 'Furious by this point' <--- actually cracked a laugh out loud No need to be a jerk dude, this map ramped up the difficulty level unexpectedly and the op just needed to vent. We've all been there :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dante XBA Posted February 14, 2014 Author Share Posted February 14, 2014 Wow all I hear is a crybaby. 'Furious by this point' <--- actually cracked a laugh out loud Complete the Devil May Cry HD Collection. Send me proof. Then tell me you did not once get furious. Fucking prick. Anyway, I completed Nightfall. Either they made it easier via hotfix (enemies didn't seem as bad) or I got better. As I usually do. Oh, and a big ol fuck you to everyone who thinks I'm whining. I know what a difficult game is. Check my gamercard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collin232 Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 I'm with OP. I prefer solo and it took about a week to master point of contact. I've been playing nightfall on and off since release and still haven't beaten it. Shit is hard. VenomX makes it a little easier later on but it's still fucking hard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricHawrylyshyn Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Really not that hard once you learn the strategy, hit me up if for team play: EricHawrylyshyn (360) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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