Seraph Xii Posted April 1, 2014 Share Posted April 1, 2014 Does anybody else find the new system really quite broken? I can wait around for about 15 minutes and see nothing, then the world seems to "refresh" and about 3 appear. You have to be fast however, if you're not it's just "sign disappeared" or "somebody else has summoned this player" which happens to me a lot. What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppys Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 Does anybody else find the new system really quite broken? I can wait around for about 15 minutes and see nothing, then the world seems to "refresh" and about 3 appear. You have to be fast however, if you're not it's just "sign disappeared" or "somebody else has summoned this player" which happens to me a lot. What are your thoughts? The new system is only in place for those on NG, after that it drops off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tripleb2k Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I feel the same way about being summoned. It can take up to 15 minutes to get summoned. Standing around and watching the 'ghosts' of other players running around having fun annoys me even more Seriously though, summoning needs to be faster on both ends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraph Xii Posted April 2, 2014 Author Share Posted April 2, 2014 The new system is only in place for those on NG, after that it drops off. All of this was from NG+ and beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fogotmypantz Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 I feel like I get summoned pretty quickly, but when i want to summon someone I hardly ever see signs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagane Posted April 2, 2014 Share Posted April 2, 2014 (edited) I noticed it from launch Always got annoyed by the same "This Login ID is already in Use." or whatever, but I also assumed that it was just a small problem that comes with "Dedicated Servers." I'm sure it'll get fixed (or tampered with, at least) in the future. I feel like I get summoned pretty quickly, but when i want to summon someone I hardly ever see signs. I was going for Flame Weapon last night, but hadn't progressed my character in NG+ yet. So when I get to the Saltfort Bonfire at Sinner's Rise, it's completely empty- like a ghost town. Immediately after tossing an Ascetic into the same area, BOOM two Summon Signs. Just like that. o_o I've always been aware that there's more constraints to summoning in the initial playthrough, but even I thought that was completely ridiculous. Edited April 2, 2014 by Hagane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppys Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 All of this was from NG+ and beyond. I thought you were referring to the SM system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seraph Xii Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 I thought you were referring to the SM system In terms of how the world refreshes every so often and how the constant "sign has disappeared" noticed appear etc... Not that summoning is restricted in NG, although that's also pretty annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ham Woopan Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I've been lucky with Summoning as I'm never waiting around for more than five minutes before I load into someone's world. Compare that to DS1 where it took a friend and I three goddamn hours just to connect. Although as you mentioned I do not like how the signs are set on timers and refresh after a while. Trying to summon invaders at the Iron Keep bridge and I constantly get failed messages as someone summoned them before me. Once the next batch of signs appear it's a mad dash to get to one first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 i didn't want to start a new thread for this question so i'll try asking here if i am still in NG, can i get summoned into a NG+ game? the reason i am asking is i am currently on my first playthrough and i just defeated the covetous demon i think it was called(big fat jabba the hut looking thing) and i am SL105 which is probably kind of high for where i am at in the game i am trying to get some sunlight medals for the covenant and i have only been summoned three times in about 45 minutes of trying so i think i may be too high of a level for the people coming through here on NG if i go back to the first boss of the game, the Last Giant, and put my summon stone down will i get summoned into someone's NG+ game since that is most likely where alot of people will be starting NG+? i hope that makes sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletman Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 if i am still in NG, can i get summoned into a NG+ game? No. 10 characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 No. 10 characters. thanks i've actually been summoned twice in the past 10 minutes for the covetous demon fight so i guess i am not overleveled as much as i thought i've got a ton of souls though and i'm afraid to level up anymore so i may just go on a spending spree back in majula... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletman Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 thanks i've actually been summoned twice in the past 10 minutes for the covetous demon fight so i guess i am not overleveled as much as i thought i've got a ton of souls though and i'm afraid to level up anymore so i may just go on a spending spree back in majula... I'm level 400 and get summoned almost constantly, don't be afraid to level up. I didn't want to be restricted to a certain build so I made sure I can do everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 (edited) I'm level 400 and get summoned almost constantly, don't be afraid to level up. I didn't want to be restricted to a certain build so I made sure I can do everything. damn i'm still on NG though where are you at with your level 400 character? i just got summoned by the same guy twice in a row i watched him get killed by the trap chest by the fogwall to the covetous demon...lol i even stood in front of it and did the "No way" gesture to him but he didn't heed my advice and i agree with wanting to be able to do everything i am starting as faith/strength but eventually i want to have dex/fai/str/end/att/ all to at least 40ish and i'd like to get Int up to at least 20ish so i could try some of the hexes Edited April 15, 2014 by wexsuvslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletman Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 damn i'm still on NG though where are you at with your level 400 character? i just got summoned by the same guy twice in a row i watched him get killed by the trap chest by the fogwall to the covetous demon...lol i even stood in front of it and did the "No way" gesture to him but he didn't heed my advice Threshold Bridge at the Iron Keep is where I get invaded/summoned the most. There is a lot of ganking going on in that area, it's pretty funny... Being able to do everything makes PvP far more interesting. I keep getting invites to fight clubs, might have to get into that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 15, 2014 Share Posted April 15, 2014 Threshold Bridge at the Iron Keep is where I get invaded/summoned the most. There is a lot of ganking going on in that area, it's pretty funny... Being able to do everything makes PvP far more interesting. I keep getting invites to fight clubs, might have to get into that! i thought the first rule of fight club was not to talk about fight club... i'm not a fan of pvp but i love coop so helping others fight bosses is awesome(especially being a gold phantom) i just want to be able to use all weaponary and shields as well as be able to use all miracles and hexes i'm not too worried about sorcery/pyromancy because that's what i spent over 200 hours doing in DS1 on topic though, i meant which playthrough are you on with the SL400? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulletman Posted April 16, 2014 Share Posted April 16, 2014 i thought the first rule of fight club was not to talk about fight club... i'm not a fan of pvp but i love coop so helping others fight bosses is awesome(especially being a gold phantom) i just want to be able to use all weaponary and shields as well as be able to use all miracles and hexes i'm not too worried about sorcery/pyromancy because that's what i spent over 200 hours doing in DS1 on topic though, i meant which playthrough are you on with the SL400? Oh shi... I'm on my 3rd playthrough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Threshold Bridge at the Iron Keep is where I get invaded/summoned the most. There is a lot of ganking going on in that area, it's pretty funny... i've actually been summoned about 15 times now in the iron keep but i think i may be to the point where my soul memory is too high(1,409,597) since i'm still on playthrough number 1 i haven't been summoned in about an hour now...i've even tried allowing cross region play to no avail i only need 7 more medals to get to rank 3...lol i'm sure if i progress farther into the game i would have better luck being summoned but i just reached belfry sol and i wanted to join that covenant to start working on progress towards the spell at rank 2 my OCD won't let me leave the sunbros yet though until i get those last 7 medals, not to mention i want the rank 3 prize for my faith build:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelodyMelody Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I came on to make a similar post, I'm at a complete standstill at the moment. I refuse to move on without an item (because I'm strange and stubborn), but I have been trying for days to get a summon for humanity (which takes about 20 minutes, sometimes doesn't ever happen) per time... And then waiting around to summon others is like trying to find a unicorn roaming around my village. So I end up trying it alone, and then I fail... So then I have to wait around for a summon again. I love this game, but I'm bored at the moment and clearly not good enough to do it alone. I can't wait until I can move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puppys Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I came on to make a similar post, I'm at a complete standstill at the moment. I refuse to move on without an item (because I'm strange and stubborn), but I have been trying for days to get a summon for humanity (which takes about 20 minutes, sometimes doesn't ever happen) per time... And then waiting around to summon others is like trying to find a unicorn roaming around my village. So I end up trying it alone, and then I fail... So then I have to wait around for a summon again. I love this game, but I'm bored at the moment and clearly not good enough to do it alone. I can't wait until I can move on. Maybe try a different area for being summoned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImaginaryRuins Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 I am in NG+, Level 207 and Soul Mem 4.9 million. Is that too high? No one summoned me and no summon signs from Corpus Demon to Smelter Demon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelodyMelody Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Maybe try a different area for being summoned? I'm not staying in the same area to be summoned, it still seems to take me forever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I came on to make a similar post, I'm at a complete standstill at the moment. I refuse to move on without an item (because I'm strange and stubborn), but I have been trying for days to get a summon for humanity (which takes about 20 minutes, sometimes doesn't ever happen) per time... And then waiting around to summon others is like trying to find a unicorn roaming around my village. So I end up trying it alone, and then I fail... So then I have to wait around for a summon again. I love this game, but I'm bored at the moment and clearly not good enough to do it alone. I can't wait until I can move on. you seem to play alot like i do i didn't want to move on in the game until i got to rank 3 in sunbros because i wanted to join the bellkeepers in belfry soul but i was having trouble getting summoned for the smelter demon(the last boss before belfry sol) i think my soul level was too high so what i did was i forced myself to move on and not too long after i defeated the next boss and i have been having better luck getting summoned there(i don't want to spoil anything by naming names) i now only need 4 more medals and i can get my reward for rank 3 and then i can go back to belfry sol and work on that covenant even though i don't like to leave things unfinished, sometimes you have to move forward in order to move back if that makes sense:) the summoning in NG has alot to do with your soul memory from what i've read(i still don't fully understand it) so i think that is alot of the reason why summoning is tough on NG sometimes i've read that once you move to NG+, the soul memory thing is less of an issue....i know that doesn't help gamers like us that can't leave things unfinished though:) Edited April 17, 2014 by wexsuvslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KelodyMelody Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 you seem to play alot like i do i didn't want to move on in the game until i got to rank 3 in sunbros because i wanted to join the bellkeepers in belfry soul but i was having trouble getting summoned for the smelter demon(the last boss before belfry sol) i think my soul level was too high so what i did was i forced myself to move on and not too long after i defeated the next boss and i have been having better luck getting summoned there(i don't want to spoil anything by naming names) i now only need 4 more medals and i can get my reward for rank 3 and then i can go back to belfry sol and work on that covenant even though i don't like to leave things unfinished, sometimes you have to move forward in order to move back if that makes sense:) the summoning in NG has alot to do with your soul memory from what i've read(i still don't fully understand it) so i think that is alot of the reason why summoning is tough on NG sometimes i've read that once you move to NG+, the soul memory thing is less of an issue....i know that doesn't help gamers like us that can't leave things unfinished though:) I'm just worried that if I move on, I'm going to be even higher soul level and so have even less chance of finding somebody when I come back. If the area is already too low, then what chance will I have? I've used a bonfire thingy to boost difficulty and whenever I summon people they just seem to die straight away too, because they obviously are unaware it's had a difficulty increase. I've farmed the mobs before the boss dry so that when I summon someone nobody gets accidentally killed or anything. Still though, I need to actually find someone first. I've been waiting here for 47 minutes now and still haven't found anybody to summon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wexsuvslim Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 (edited) I'm just worried that if I move on, I'm going to be even higher soul level and so have even less chance of finding somebody when I come back. If the area is already too low, then what chance will I have? I've used a bonfire thingy to boost difficulty and whenever I summon people they just seem to die straight away too, because they obviously are unaware it's had a difficulty increase. I've farmed the mobs before the boss dry so that when I summon someone nobody gets accidentally killed or anything. Still though, I need to actually find someone first. I've been waiting here for 47 minutes now and still haven't found anybody to summon my apologies i misread the post the first time i thought you were trying to get summoned to help other people and gain medals for a covenant which boss are you having trouble with? i don't know if this means anything but one thing i'll do if i can't summon/get summoned for a while is quit the game and reload for whatever reason that works for me a majority of the time now i don't know if it puts you on a different server or what but it might be worth a try for you also, check your game options and allow cross-region play...it will open you up to more players what level are you and what boss are you trying to summon someone for? i'll help you out if i can Edited April 17, 2014 by wexsuvslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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