skiscaraudio Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) http://www.gamefront.com/starbreeze-on-syndicate-theres-no-easy-difficulty/ . “We’re in constant fear we made it too hard.” Well, you know what they say: to ask the question is to know the answer. If the developers think it might be too hard, expect amazing difficulty to ensue. Better make sure you have a party organized when this thing drops on February 24th. Edited February 4, 2012 by skiscaraudio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevander Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 (edited) Pfft. They can call it hard but we all know the gamers are always better players than reviewers and even the developers. From the article: We can complete three stars in the office when QA play. But in two days there will be players that are better than I am at this game. That’s for them, the ones who want that really tough experience. It is dumb however that there's no Easy setting for the casual player, which every game should have. And anyway, the demo was tough when first starting out but once you are fully upgraded it will probably be a different story. I never believe any articles about gameplay good or bad until I've played it for myself. If it does turn out to be as difficult as they say, then big whoop. If it's too difficult then the developers will have to do something, tweaks, etc. In short, I'm sure they've greatly overestimated the difficulty given you are in a party of four players, all fully upgraded. Now SP is a different story, and this article seems to be speaking only about the CO-OP. Edited February 4, 2012 by Nevander Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 The harder the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburok Posted February 4, 2012 Share Posted February 4, 2012 http://www.gamefront.com/starbreeze-on-syndicate-theres-no-easy-difficulty/ . “We’re in constant fear we made it too hard.” Well, you know what they say: to ask the question is to know the answer. If the developers think it might be too hard, expect amazing difficulty to ensue. Better make sure you have a party organized when this thing drops on February 24th. If this is the Dark Souls of FPS, good. I don't mind a little challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41inuyasha Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Ya I dont mind a little challenge either, but when things are too difficult it starts becoming less enjoyable and just frustrating. Huge Ninja Gaiden fan, but after I beat the second one on the first two difficulties for the challenge. I sent it to gamestop becuase the fact it was too difficult to relax and enjoy, therefore had no replay value. I dont mind challenges at all, but putting a difficulty for the casual gamer is always a plus, and will always increase play hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banditseven Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Hard is always welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBuzz7S Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Going by the demo, on normal I struggled with 1 other person in the game. I'd rather that instead of completing the game in less than 5 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After playing the demo for quite a few hours, my brother and I are able to breeze through that mission on hard pretty easily. I am hoping for an even harder difficulty than hard, really looking fwd to what kind of DLC this game might get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburok Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 After playing the demo for quite a few hours, my brother and I are able to breeze through that mission on hard pretty easily. I am hoping for an even harder difficulty than hard, really looking fwd to what kind of DLC this game might get. Fear not: expert mode is in the game for co-op! I imagine things will get super rough compared to "hard" mode. It was bad enough when like 6 sergeants rush you with Mjolnirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vigor Posted February 7, 2012 Share Posted February 7, 2012 I started the demo on my own, first I was like whaaaaat but then I took an arrow to the knee. It's near impossible on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gargantou Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 Good, I don't remember the first two games as being cakewalks anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevander Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I knew it. Not as hard as they made it out to be. I just did the whole demo level on Hard completely SOLO without dying once with a level 9 agent (leveling up to 10 in the process). I'm sure the absolute hardest will still be challenging but I know they overestimated it. They're trying to scare people or something haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurd77 Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I am curious if the difficulty settings for Campaign mode and Co-Op mode will be the same or if they will have separate difficulty settings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburok Posted February 8, 2012 Share Posted February 8, 2012 I knew it. Not as hard as they made it out to be. I just did the whole demo level on Hard completely SOLO without dying once with a level 9 agent (leveling up to 10 in the process). I'm sure the absolute hardest will still be challenging but I know they overestimated it. They're trying to scare people or something haha. Yeah, I did it solo mid-level with the sniper rifle without dying. It's not that hard, but I'm wondering how "hard" the demo mission is. It was pretty easy, after a run through, but most things are if you know what to expect. Expert mode will probably turn up the cheese level for the enemies you encounter. Maybe multiple liquids at the same time? I don't think the previewed Left 4 Dead crescendo-styled parts will be easily soloable. Guess we'll see in two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevander Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 What I'm seriously not hoping for is TIMED missions or missions where you don't have control over an element in the mission (like time limit or someone can die easily or something you have to protect, etc.). These types of missions are not my strong-suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiscaraudio Posted February 9, 2012 Author Share Posted February 9, 2012 What I'm seriously not hoping for is TIMED missions or missions where you don't have control over an element in the mission (like time limit or someone can die easily or something you have to protect, etc.). These types of missions are not my strong-suit. strange you said that as the game demo does have a "timed" feel to it...strange, it seems like a great game tho btw amazon gives you a $20 credit so it's $39 and thats a day one buy for me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twotonkoala Posted February 9, 2012 Share Posted February 9, 2012 Hard is always welcome http://www.impactlab.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/TheOffice-ThatsWhatSheSaid-Michael.jpg OT: I bet like others have said, they're underestimating the gaming community as a whole, but at the same time I think they're probably saying not that it's too hard for people to beat, but that it's too hard to sell a lot of copies. Which very well may be true if they don't put an easy difficulty in there (thought that was odd). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auburok Posted February 10, 2012 Share Posted February 10, 2012 What I'm seriously not hoping for is TIMED missions or missions where you don't have control over an element in the mission (like time limit or someone can die easily or something you have to protect, etc.). These types of missions are not my strong-suit. I'm not sure. They said there would be many types of missions. I'm assuming at one point, a timed objective might rear it's head. Not impossible, but I don't think it will be super common. I bet like others have said, they're underestimating the gaming community as a whole, but at the same time I think they're probably saying not that it's too hard for people to beat, but that it's too hard to sell a lot of copies. Which very well may be true if they don't put an easy difficulty in there (thought that was odd). Well, here's the thing: it's a term that gets thrown around. The demo is easy for many, but I've found it's hard for many as well. Many of the posters here, let's be fair, are pretty good at games. The gaming community isn't super awesome at games as a whole; check out the Kingdoms of Amalur forum, where it's about 50/50 on "hard mode" being "too hard" where players are dying to rats on this mode. I've been watching IDiivil play, and it doesn't look too hard, but there are cheap moments (like boss fights). This is an RPG game, and people are trying to glitch the game out at the end to get the hard achievement because it's too difficult for them. I think it's a modest projection for an FPS games, as it attracts many players. I remember my brothers breezing through MW2's special op's mode on veteran, despite it being "hard". I think Syndicate probably will be harder than that, probably comparable to some difficulty levels of Left 4 Dead, without the random elements of course. These will be less difficult with a good team and experience with/knowledge of what's ahead. I'm not sure if an "easy" mode would fix selling the game, though. No one will want to play in easy lobbies, earning 1/2 the experience of normal mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flinttown420 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 Its EXTREMLY hard on the hard difficulty. Played with another friend last night on a 4 player recommended map. Just got destroyed (not sure if im fond of the constant spawning) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wurd77 Posted February 18, 2012 Share Posted February 18, 2012 (edited) I've tried playing the Co-Op demo solo multiple times and it was EXTREMELY hard, in my opinion. However, when I, actually, played it with other players....then it was easier and seemed more fun. I think the reason it is so hard is....that it is meant to be played with other players than by yourself (or with one other player). I'm just wondering how difficult the Single Player mode will be seeing that Co-Op on solo is very hard. EDIT: Looks like my question has been answered. The Campaign mode has Easy, Normal, and Hard difficulty settings. I think that Co-Op has Normal, Hard, and Expert (wasn't available in the demo) settings, right? Edited February 18, 2012 by Wurd77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eleriel Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 it is better to err on the side of difficult. the only games I disapprove of being difficult are the ones that are creepy... or scary. resident evil, aliens vs predator, donkey kong. or when they're difficult because they've been programmed crapily. Every single time I have died in Mass Effect 2 is because my squadmates are derping... or because my character got stuck on something at the wrong time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Fear not: expert mode is in the game for co-op! I imagine things will get super rough compared to "hard" mode. It was bad enough when like 6 sergeants rush you with Mjolnirs. Sweet! Gamefly mailed it to me today, should have it on monday. I can't wait to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nevander Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Not long now 'till we have it! Can't wait to play the full game and actually make some serious progress in co-op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Magic Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Sweet! Gamefly mailed it to me today, should have it on monday. I can't wait to play Monday is Presidents Day, no mail. Thats why they mailed it Saturday so people can get it on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gackt Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Monday is Presidents Day, no mail. Thats why they mailed it Saturday so people can get it on Tuesday. SON OF A BITCH! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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