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So i have played every racing game/sim since they began and its what i enjoy playing more than any other type of game and for ages have really looked forward to this game, so i started my career on karts which in real life i have raced 100's of times.

Now the thing with karts is they are the easiest formula to drive they are light, have slicks are rear wheel driven and are very low to the ground and handle like there on rails most of the time.

However in this game they are horrible to drive they have massive turning problems if you use a rumble strip at speed it drags you in to the barrier most of the time. On a fast left follow through section on the dubia track the steering would not come back and seemed to be stuck left just sending me straight into the left barrier again. In fact there where many time the steering gets stuck left or right and will not come back almost as if it where a front wheel drive car with full throttle.

Very Very Disapointed so far, karts are ment to be good fun and easy to race wheel to wheel these are a very far cry from that.

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I read somewhere that the steering problem is a bug. There was a patch on launch but the steering problem is still there. Its like you have to tiptoe through the corners incase it happens again and ruins your race. The game is good but not as much as I hoped it would be. Then again I haven't tried online yet just career.

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well i changed my deadzone to zero this helped a bit but the karts are so wrong its a joke they have a turning circle of a bus and all the handling of a boat.

They are so so frustrating i have not tried any other type of car and to be honest dont really want to becasue driving fast is about satisfaction not massive over and under streer in 60mph curves not even corners then massive snap over rotation and your off the track for no apparent reason other than the fact you were taking a corner through the apex at speed. If u touch the rumble strips your off if you put a wheel on the grass your dragged off its a joke.

Not to mention this is not smooth it jerks when going through slow corners no way is this 60fps well not on mine and i have turned off lens flare etc.. just hugely deflated and left feeling empty after all the hype and promises of what this game was going to give us. :(

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I do not believe the Karting Steering to be bugged.

 

It reminds me when, as an idiot teenager, I tried to bomb down an S bend in the back streets of my neighbourhood in my mom's 1982 Ford Escort.

 

I did the right things with the wheel but at that speed I lost control and ended up off the road.

 

It's a racing game and people are surprised they can't just glide over a tracing line like they can in "Forza".

 

You can restart the session at any point without penalty so do that.

 

Take the time to learn the track. Turn the "line" off and take your cues for turning from the track like actual drivers. It won't take long before you understand the track and are doing a lot better.

 

This is a Racing SIM that remains challenging even with a lot of assists on.

 

Throttle plays as much a part in wheel positioning as braking and steering when exiting a corner.

 

It can seem frustrating at first when you can't float along to an easy "tracing line" win like in "Forza" but it will feel 100 times better when you win for real and you earned it yourself.

 

You don't suck. The game doesn't suck. You just need to get used to it and when you do you'll find it's brilliant.

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I do not believe the Karting Steering to be bugged.

 

It reminds me when, as an idiot teenager, I tried to bomb down an S bend in the back streets of my neighbourhood in my mom's 1982 Ford Escort.

 

I did the right things with the wheel but at that speed I lost control and ended up off the road.

 

It's a racing game and people are surprised they can't just glide over a tracing line like they can in "Forza".

 

You can restart the session at any point without penalty so do that.

 

Take the time to learn the track. Turn the "line" off and take your cues for turning from the track like actual drivers. It won't take long before you understand the track and are doing a lot better.

 

This is a Racing SIM that remains challenging even with a lot of assists on.

 

Throttle plays as much a part in wheel positioning as braking and steering when exiting a corner.

 

It can seem frustrating at first when you can't float along to an easy "tracing line" win like in "Forza" but it will feel 100 times better when you win for real and you earned it yourself.

 

You don't suck. The game doesn't suck. You just need to get used to it and when you do you'll find it's brilliant.

 

Yes there is a problem with the steering. My friend is not having this problem but me and many other people are. So just because your not experiencing it doesn't mean its not there.

 

Never driven a real car where the steering will go to full lock and stay on full lock for a few seconds with no controller input from me. Restarting the race does have a penalty because the restarted race still goes on your driver network profile

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I can only speak from my perspective. Sometimes I've had the wheel lock on me but only when I've lost control.

 

Never locked on me when I'm taking the corners correctly.

 

As for re-started races appearing on my Driver Profile... there's no option to do practice laps in the Karting season so I'm really not gonna let my "cyber pride" get in the way of treating some sessions as my "practice time".

 

Whether there actually is an issue or it's just a difficulty spike that some people are having trouble adjusting to, like "Battlefield", if enough people complain I'm sure they'll patch it to make it a little easier.

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I have played many racing games e.g. Forza series, Race pro, Gran Tourismo, PGR etc.. The problem is not the difficultly of the game or a learning curve.

 

There is a serious issue with the controls no matter what settings I use. The main problem is when switching direction from left to right or vice versa and this is at a very low speed e.g 20mph the car would just veer to one side severely.

 

I know at high speed if you pulled hard to one side then the other it would spin out obviously. This is a handling issue and would make something like a low speed slalom or chicane impossible. Which you should have no issue with.

 

Other issues include hyper sensitive steering no matter what setting. Being on full lock when only pushing the stick over about half way.

 

It seems some people (across different forums) are not experiencing the said issues (lucky them) and assume its a difficulty thing or inexperience with racing games. As a side note people playing on PC with X1 controllers say the game plays well.

 

This game is unplayable in it's current state and requires a patch. The most important thing to get right in a game is the handling. How did they miss this issue in testing??? It looks like being an awesome racer with lots of depth.

 

For now though broken game is broken. I won't be playing this or attempt to start a career until this is fixed. Sick of games being released broken and being fixed after you pay for them, it's a very poor practice. I refuse to buy the new battlefield because of this.

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I can only speak from my perspective. Sometimes I've had the wheel lock on me but only when I've lost control.

 

Never locked on me when I'm taking the corners correctly.

 

As for re-started races appearing on my Driver Profile... there's no option to do practice laps in the Karting season so I'm really not gonna let my "cyber pride" get in the way of treating some sessions as my "practice time".

 

Whether there actually is an issue or it's just a difficulty spike that some people are having trouble adjusting to, like "Battlefield", if enough people complain I'm sure they'll patch it to make it a little easier.

 

https://youtu.be/uI1ucECcBMI

 

Here you go a video showing what the problem is with the steering that someone has posted. So no its not a difficultly spike as you put it

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That guy is sat stone still in an F1 car.

 

Playing the game even more today simply affirmed what I said above.

 

People are losing control and blaming the game.

 

Again as mentioned above there's more to turning a corner than moving the wheel but when you get your braking and acceleration right you won't have this problem.

 

I've had the steering lock on me myself but each time I've had to admit I only had myself to blame.

 

To be fair there were a couple of times when I thought maybe the game should have given me the benefit of the doubt but I've been playing full race laps in every session and the game has yet to randomly lock me out of the blue for no good reason.

 

This isn't a pick up and play game.

 

It's pick up and learn.

 

But the plus side is that when you finally get it right it's all the more rewarding to the point that you'll actually want to sit back and appreciate your replay.

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It doesn't matter if he is sat still, the vid clearly shows the controller issue. When he puts it full right and then you see him move the stick left it's still stuck in the right full lock position.

 

Plus I have had the same issue in a BMW at very low and high speeds with warm tyres and different settings. There is 17+ pages on the Project Cars site forums with people having this problem.

 

There is clearly a big problem, but it doesn't seem to affect everyone. That's great for them they can enjoy the game. However don't tell people who have spend many hours with the problem and trying different setting to deal with it. That there is no problem and they need more practice at the game.

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If someone's affected by a bug then they're affected by a bug.

 

"Borderlands 2" was broken for thousands of people so it's possible that people are having different experiences.

 

But the point here is that even when it works it's a challenging game to get into that rewards skill.

 

When the XBox ONE launched most of the people criticising Party Chat weren't doing so because of a fault but rather because they didn't understand how to use it correctly.

 

People have really short attention spans nowadays and are very quick to jump to incorrect conclusions.

 

I'm not saying that faults aren't there for some people.

 

I'm just pointing out that people are too quick to cry "fault" in the face of challenge.

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Copied this from their forums. At least they have confirmed the problem and are working on a fix. (P.s. setting Steering zone to 0 did not work for me)

 

[Please read] Xbox One Issues

 

Hey guys,

 

We are aware of the issues some of you are encountering at the moment with the Xbox One.

 

First of all please make sure that you have the latest patch applied. The size of the game should show 18.5 GB.

 

If you are having problems with the controls set "Steering Deadzone" to 0

 

For further help check out those threads:

 

 

 

 

The devs are working flat-out to fix the biggest issues as soon as possible:

 

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by
Ian Bell (Head of Studio)
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png

We are aware of the issue and it's our top priority. It's only affecting a small minority.

 

 

 

http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/misc/quote_icon.png
Originally Posted by
Ian Bell
http://forum.projectcarsgame.com/images/buttons/viewpost-right.png

We'll ship it as soon as we can. It has to go through the verification process with 1st parties. Plus we need to replicate and fix it!

Some people are experiencing a sensitivity/locking bug. We've commented on it 9 times now. It's stickied in the forum and we're on it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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OK ive been on the official forum and it is now acknowleged that the xb1 version is broken i have played it now on the ps4 it is completely different and very driveable it has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty of the game or ppl not being able to drive it, if you can play the ps4 or pc version using the karts then do it and u will see just how broken the xb1 version is.

 

The devs have said they are working on a patch just for the xb1 version for the steering issue but there main problem is the framerate which has a massive effect on the handling making many formula's undriveable thus the problem with the karts. However some formulas are not suffering with the framerate issues as much. I was stuttering around a hairpin and then on the straight it kind of zooms along to catch up almost like a buffering effect, but this game is broken until the patch and no where near what ppl have on the ps4 or pc.

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OK ive been on the official forum and it is now acknowleged that the xb1 version is broken i have played it now on the ps4 it is completely different and very driveable it has absolutely nothing to do with the difficulty of the game or ppl not being able to drive it, if you can play the ps4 or pc version using the karts then do it and u will see just how broken the xb1 version is.

 

The devs have said they are working on a patch just for the xb1 version for the steering issue but there main problem is the framerate which has a massive effect on the handling making many formula's undriveable thus the problem with the karts. However some formulas are not suffering with the framerate issues as much. I was stuttering around a hairpin and then on the straight it kind of zooms along to catch up almost like a buffering effect, but this game is broken until the patch and no where near what ppl have on the ps4 or pc.

 

Well I got same issued for PS4. It is not broken game but my PS4 version had same problem as others had issued with XB1. No joke. So it is not AC Unity or Drive Club or Battlefield 4 that got huge broken issues until patched. Hahaha

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It is a great shame because I, like many others where really looking forward to this game and you would think with all the delays to polish the game a serious bug like this would have been found and fixed.

 

 

Now it's released and it's up to us to point out the faults with the game to them????

 

 

Hopefully a patch will fix these problems but it is funny seeing ebay full of copies of the game being listed as an "unwanted gift" haha there seems to be a lot of people who have had a birthday and a copy of PC this past week

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A quote from their forums and the head of the studio - "We've reproduced and fixed the controller input issue internally. We're working on getting the patch out ASAP."

 

Excellent news and I just hope they can get it out super fast. Just a shame I wasn't able to enjoy the game over this weekend. Will be playing The Witcher 3 loads when that comes out too, so hopefully it's sorted by next weekend.

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Even when the game is working fine it's a challenge to get into.

 

When I first started I couldn't keep the car on the track. I was flying off all over the place much like everyone in this forum would do if you put them in a real race car (or even a top end kart) and told them "Go race round this track".

 

Get rid of that big green "tracing line", start to understand the impact braking and acceleration have on your steering and you'll soon find yourself enjoying a great racing SIM.

 

Like I said above it's not "Pick Up And Play", it's "Pick Up And Learn" but it's a very rewarding experience.

 

So while some people may very well be affected by a "glitch" there will be many more who simply pack it in because they don't have the patience to master the learning curve.

 

And at the end of the day, if it's supposed to be a Driving SIM but doesn't have a learning curve... well it would be a pretty crap SIM then wouldn't it?

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I don't like using the green line either, I made a vid yesterday to showcase the handling lock issue at low speeds after re-installing the game. So I forgot to turn it off then.

 

I look forward to learning this game proper when the steering bug patch is released. I understand the point of racing sims and do enjoy them. I'm glad your enjoying it and hope to be doing the same soon :)

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