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I was tingling with anticipation to play the dragon age demo and instead played this generic hack and slash game instead.

 

 

 

 

I have never been more dissapointed in a game in my whole life.... IMO dragon age 1 was a perfect game and they feel that they ruined it in the direction they took it. I will however still will be buying it because I am interested in the story. Dragon age 1 was good enough to keep me interested on the storyline to keep going.

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Dragon Age is all about the story, always was, for me. That's one of the things that make me love running through it over and over again, from different perspectives

 

After playing through the demo, I really don't get why people complain so much about it, seriously. The turn based combat system is antiquated at best and needs to be revamped. Good on them for turning the game into something that isn't a copy of everything else.

 

The graphics amazed me. They're much, much better than the original, and the characters so far are very well built. Perfect? No, but nothing ever is, or will ever be.

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As others have said, it is all about the story for me.

I was a sceptical on some of the ideas on the game and took a while getting suing to certain things i can say that i think the game will still be brilliant.

I can get past things like your team not being able to equip armour you pick up and the loss of a few specialisations as long as the story is great and keeps me interested.

I played dragon age origins and found it boring the first time around, then i came back to it a few months ago and have been playing it since, if its a story like that i cant complain :)

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I played dragon age origins and found it boring the first time around, then i came back to it a few months ago and have been playing it since, if its a story like that i cant complain :)

 

Same here, oddly enough.

I've owned the game 3 times. 2 360 (one system + all games got ripped off, talk about me = pissed), once through steam.

 

All 3 times, for some odd reason, I started the game, got about 1/3 to 1/2 into the story, and just quit, for months on end. The past couple weeks, though, every possible moment has been out there playing it, trying to get every achievement possible for it. Getting ready to run through for the third time tonight/tomorrow

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No question the story will be good. What I dont understand is how you say the graphics are better? I think they are worse. The battle animation seems choppy to me.

 

 

What was so bad about the battle system before? All they did now was make you feel like you where doing more but in actuallity your not. Your doing the same things but they added button mashing.

 

Let me explain.

 

In dragon age two you do NOT do any combo's by hitting different buttons, all you are is hitting a button to attack, and when your other attacks are refilled you hit those and wait for them to recharge. Whats the point? They just seem to be giving you more busy work. If you hit buttons in a sequence to do a combo attack and such, then it would make sense to change it. So what was really the point in changing it? TO make you feel more engaged in the story by you hitting the 8 button 10 times to kill an enemy?

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The game is playable in the exact way as in Origins, it's been stated in various interviews etc.

 

The only reason you weren't able to play the demo using the old style gameplay is because many who disliked Origins combat system will again be put off and hamper sales.

 

It's all fine in the retail version, just have to wait for it.

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I didn't mind the graphics but i didn't pay much attention to them tbh.

The 'button mashing' also gives you the ability to close the gap between you and you enemy faster with the speed dashes and such, the one hit combat is still in there but the pressing of a makes you jump towards the enemy and such.

Also im guessing it wont be to much button mashing later on in the game when you are on higher difficulty's, with things like controlling your whole party's :)

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Generic hack and slash? When I booted up the demo, I saw the same game as dragon age origins with two key differences: One, A was "attack" instead of "auto-attack" giving the game a much more actiony feel, but the ability system is still exactly the same. And two, it has mass effect's dialogue wheel. Oh, and the main character speaks, but I suppose that comes with the wheel.

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I prefer the new combat system, in DA:O the combat system bored me, all you did was watch your character fight while you occasionally used a skill/ability. Now it feels like your actually doing something when you fight.

 

Plus it was only the demo, I'm guessing they'll have some kind of option to enable auto-attack to give you the feeling of the original, which if they do, I would use it on one of my playthroughs.

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The game is playable in the exact way as in Origins, it's been stated in various interviews etc.

 

The only reason you weren't able to play the demo using the old style gameplay is because many who disliked Origins combat system will again be put off and hamper sales.

 

It's all fine in the retail version, just have to wait for it.

 

 

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Listen to this, the demo does not = the game. The PC version of the demo doesn't support DX11, does that mean the PC version wont run on high end machines? No.

 

People who liked DA:O will buy DA2, the demo is being used to try and draw in the crowd that didn't really like DA:O or are new to the game, they aren't going to screw us over by significantly changing up how the game is played. I personally micromanage the position of all of my people (partially because I normally play on insane and that = more ff from AoEs if you don't) so having this hack and slash wont work well for me, and bioware understands that. Look on the official forums if you don't believe the quote.

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I think I am the prime example of why they made they changes they did. I have never played Dragon Age 1 and I preordered this back in November just in case I would want it later I would get the xtra stuff. When I downloaded and played the demo I was blown away by the gameplay and the power trees. I loved both Mass Effect and Mass Effect 2 and this feels like that in a sense. They made the changes to engulf the new comers because they knew those who played 1 would come back for the story. It was a great business decision by Bioware and EA

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Having played through the demo again, I have to say that while still impressed with the game, the voice overs were a bit off. Then again, this demo was put out quite a while back, and I'm sure those were rushed, at least I HOPE so.

 

That said, I've run through as a caster (mage) and warrior, and right now, I'm definitely leaning towards my first run through as a caster. Haven't run through with the rogue yet, maybe I'll do that before the game gets here Tuesday.

 

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Another thing to keep in mind is that this is just a demo which IIRC is quite a few months old. I don't expect it to by any means compare to 'final' game play.

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people are just expressing an opinion not whinging or bitching like many others i was a little disapointed with the demo it did just seem like another hack and slash game whereas the first had deffo roots in rpg. but it's a demo so lets save judgement on it till it's release

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I was tingling with anticipation to play the dragon age demo and instead played this generic hack and slash game instead.

 

 

 

 

I have never been more dissapointed in a game in my whole life.... IMO dragon age 1 was a perfect game and they feel that they ruined it in the direction they took it. I will however still will be buying it because I am interested in the story. Dragon age 1 was good enough to keep me interested on the storyline to keep going.

 

Exactly what every forum needs, more kids bitching when there are clearly already two threads that ask about your opinion on the demo. Thanks FPS GLIMMER, another kid with spontaneous illiteracy... how about that.

 

In the interest of keeping it OT and providing an obvious observation to distract from the fact that I just came here to flame him:

 

Can't please everyone...

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In the interest of keeping it OT and providing an obvious observation to distract from the fact that I just came here to flame him:

 

Can't please everyone...

 

Exactly. Go to the Mass Effect 2 forum and you'll find a few threads like this in the earlier dates. To summarize:

 

"Wut hapned to de rpg?"

"Werz my loot?"

"Too much eksplosions."

 

I expected Bioware to do this- streamline their craft to appeal to a greater audience. They did it for ME2 and it was GOTY for a reason. I was blown away by DA 2 and considering that I got through with +1k gamerscore in part one and I wasn't loving the game the way everyone else was.

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If you don't like tapping the button, go grab the pc version of the demo, its more auto attack style unlike xbox. Personally I like it, its less waiting for your character to kill the darkspawn and more killing them yourself, if that makes sense. Just feels more engaging overall. Plus the new graphics are nice and as long as the story is there, I feel like its going to be an awesome sequel.

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I was tingling with anticipation to play the dragon age demo and instead played this generic hack and slash game instead.

 

 

 

 

I have never been more dissapointed in a game in my whole life.... IMO dragon age 1 was a perfect game and they feel that they ruined it in the direction they took it. I will however still will be buying it because I am interested in the story. Dragon age 1 was good enough to keep me interested on the storyline to keep going.

i have to agree with this. i was bitterley dissapointed with the demo. i feel like they've ruined it, but i will still be buying it(preorderd it). hopefully i'll get into this as much as the first, it was only a demo after all, so its not finished entirely yet.

 

 

EDIT: @Rocketman, below.

if your comment is a reply to me(not entirely sure) then your correct i hadn't read any other posts in this thread and after going through a few and learning about turning auto attack off/on my opinion is changed slightly, but as of right now after playing the demo i was dissapointed and until the final finished product comes out i will maintain this opinion.

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