Apple2Forever Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Anyone find this odd? It seems strange to me that Bioware to put so much effort into lots of little details in the ME trilogy, yet with something like Tali's face, resort to a quick and lazy bit of Photoshop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestyoverlord Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 All the other humans are based on real people. Even TIM was based off a stock photo. If they didn't need to animate her face I see no reason to spend money on it. It's a huge world they created if they need to be economical in some regards then so be it. Personally I don't think they should have given her a face at all, then she could look like anything - which is a big part of Master Chief's appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merch Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Time constraints, they had to cut a ton of stuff from the game already. Tali's face was probably very low on their priorities. Creating entirely new assets is a ton of work, which is why 'copy-paste' is so prevalent throughout the series Edited April 9, 2012 by Merch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daishichi Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If they didn't need to animate her face I see no reason to spend money on it. Time constraints, they had to cut a ton of stuff from the game already. Tali's face was probably very low on their priorities. I get it that people who f**ked someone else in ME2 don't give a sh*t about this. But as someone who thought Tali was truly charming, who invested in that romance option, I don't think a goddamn cutscene is too much to ask. Economical? Cut 5 seconds of Garrus or Liara being the same character they've been since the first game, and give me 5 seconds of Tali being her true self. It was lazy, and it was deservedly disappointing to the many fans who took the path I took. Why do you think it's the second most talked about controversy (besides the ending)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pestyoverlord Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Economical? Cut 5 seconds of Garrus or Liara being the same character they've been since the first game, and give me 5 seconds of Tali being her true self. It was lazy, and it was deservedly disappointing to the many fans who took the path I took. Why do you think it's the second most talked about controversy (besides the ending)? It would take a lot of work just for 5 seconds, whereas they already have the assets and technology in place for the other two. Tali removes her mask a few times and here face is never shown, for whatever reason they chose I don't think the face was meant to be seen. But due to fans demand the photo was a compromise. It would have been better if they left it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethereal235 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 (edited) Extreme laziness would have implied doing nothing at all, which probably would have been a better option. They didn't want to put it in a scene because it would require a fuckton of work, and it would probably only be seen by people who romanced Tali. You don't see other scenes where people take off a hat or even a helmet, so the game engine might make it difficult to have a genuine unmasking scene. Since it wasn't actually going to be animated in any way, and was just going to be a picture, it didn't make sense to devote much to it in terms of resources. Having someone create a new image digitally would have taken a lot more time, especially if they wanted to maintain a realistic sense of lighting. Using a real image was more practical. It was more economical to use a stock photo rather than hiring a model and photographer and taking a new one, and there would be absolutely no difference in terms of quality. Basically, it was a confluence of pragmatic decisions, not laziness. ...of course, I often say, "I'm not lazy, I'm just an efficiency expert!" in RL, so take this with several grains of salt. Edited April 9, 2012 by Ethereal235 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merch Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Jesus Christ, the way some people talk about their 'waifu' Tali is so creepy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEG23 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I personally would have preferred them not to include any photo and leave it to my imagination, but then again i think some people have to remember this is only a video game subject to the same time and cost restrains as most forms of mass media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahroo3 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I personally would have preferred them not to include any photo and leave it to my imagination, but then again i think some people have to remember this is only a video game subject to the same time and cost restrains as most forms of mass media. Also known as EA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me3fan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Check out her face here: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=360562&highlight=tali%27s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahroo3 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Check out her face here: http://www.xbox360achievements.org/forum/showthread.php?t=360562&highlight=tali%27s Considering we are complaining about it, I think we know how shitty it looks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules the great Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Yup they should have just left her face to the fans imagination. Some would have complained but it would have been one of those situations where its easy to get over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 All the other humans are based on real people. Even TIM was based off a stock photo. If they didn't need to animate her face I see no reason to spend money on it. It's a huge world they created if they need to be economical in some regards then so be it. Personally I don't think they should have given her a face at all, then she could look like anything - which is a big part of Master Chief's appeal. i keep hearing this comparison to Master Chief and i have to call BS, the difference is MC is pretty much as bland and vanilla a character as the gaming world can create, he could be pretty much anything under that helmet and we have no reason to give a crap, he's just something that moves and shoots stuff. Tali on the other hand is somebody with a personality and somebody that has been given a lot of emotional investment as an actual character, not a prop like MC. thats the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansathan Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 i keep hearing this comparison to Master Chief and i have to call BS, the difference is MC is pretty much as bland and vanilla a character as the gaming world can create, he could be pretty much anything under that helmet and we have no reason to give a crap, he's just something that moves and shoots stuff. Tali on the other hand is somebody with a personality and somebody that has been given a lot of emotional investment as an actual character, not a prop like MC. thats the difference Agreed, at the end of Halo 3, I didn't even care to see his face. When I look at MC I just take him as what I see. MC to me is that full suit of green armor. Tali, on the other hand, has a very well detailed personality that extends light years beyond MC's, so seeing her face is something I've always wanted to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 not to mention part of helping the quarrians was so they COULD remove their friggin suits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahroo3 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 not to mention part of helping the quarrians was so they COULD remove their friggin suits... Takes time to adapt from a sterile environment to their home world that they have not been on for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Takes time to adapt from a sterile environment to their home world that they have not been on for a long time. which i would have totally taken as a valid excuse if Tali didn't take her mask off pretty much the minute she was safe on her planet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bahroo3 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 which i would have totally taken as a valid excuse if Tali didn't take her mask off pretty much the minute she was safe on her planet A few moments won't kill her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Yac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 A few moments won't kill her. but that should've been them showing her face is pretty much the point most people have been trying to make, that scene was pointless otherwise and the picture was made even more pointless then that because of it. i'd like to add here i don't give a crap about tali's face, she could be a hot chick, gerbil, garbage monster or talking robot fish. but i could see where people who do care would be annoyed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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