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Old 03-01-2009, 06:02 AM   #1
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Beating expert in under 200 seconds nearly impossible?!?!

i can do this with ease (almost) on the computer, but with the controller it seems near impossible. anyone else find this game to be somewhat broken achievement wise?? to bad i can plug in a mouse to my usb drive in the xbox.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:11 PM   #2
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Yep it's a stupid one seems that you have to get extremely lucky with the 50/50 calls as well as doing it at a fast pace.
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Old 03-03-2009, 04:46 PM   #3
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The most trouble I seem to have is just getting a good start. If I didn't have to waste the first 20 seconds just trying to find a cut I could have had this by now.

One time when I did have a great start I was on record pace with probably about a sixth of the board left to clear with 40 seconds left. Then my oldest kid came into the room with an emergency. When I unpaused I hit clear on the wrong square and blew it. Gaaahhhh!
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Old 03-04-2009, 03:01 PM   #4
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The most trouble I seem to have is just getting a good start. If I didn't have to waste the first 20 seconds just trying to find a cut I could have had this by now.

One time when I did have a great start I was on record pace with probably about a sixth of the board left to clear with 40 seconds left. Then my oldest kid came into the room with an emergency. When I unpaused I hit clear on the wrong square and blew it. Gaaahhhh!
what a bummer, i am struggling to get off to a good start and dont have any excuses for bombing out lol
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Old 03-04-2009, 07:09 PM   #5
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I haven't managed to beat Expert at all yet (just bought the game last night). I can't pull off Intermediate in 90 seconds, either! I only managed the Beginner in under 15 seconds by dumb luck (9 second record! Woohoo!). I agree that it would help a LOT if we had mouse controls available. It's almost like these Achievements were written for a PC version of the game...
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Old 03-12-2009, 04:02 PM   #6
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Got expert last night. Intermediate isn't too tough, but expert is difficult.

For me, the key was balancing the flag-marking against speed. Don't worry about marking everything, just mark the ones that make clearing the area with the X button easier. I think my time was 189 seconds.
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Old 08-28-2010, 07:20 PM   #7
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I'm nearly at wit's end on this achievement.
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Ive gotten close quite a few times but I either get a 50/50 wrong or im just a little over 200... it is really aggravating
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After a couple hours of grinding last night I got it in like 198! Barely got it but good enough for the achievement and the full 200 gs.
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Such a shitty achievement. No skill involved, any idiot can clear a minesweeper field in that time. It's guessing all the 50/50s correctly and finding a start area in time that stops you, both of which come down to dumb luck.
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Such a shitty achievement. No skill involved, any idiot can clear a minesweeper field in that time. It's guessing all the 50/50s correctly and finding a start area in time that stops you, both of which come down to dumb luck.
And so I come back over a year later.

I decided to start playing PC minesweeper a lot. I have over 2500 attempted expert games now, with a ~20% win ratio (you lose a lot in the first few clicks). I finally got this achievement on the xbox with a load of techniques I picked up from practicing on the PC. Managed it in 196 here, while my PC best time is ~130.

That. Was. Not. A. Fun. Achievement.
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Any chance your share some tips, especially since I no longer have a pc where I could practice this in an environment that I could (and have) succeed. Not sure how much it will help as my problem seems to be the controls.
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Any chance your share some tips, especially since I no longer have a pc where I could practice this in an environment that I could (and have) succeed. Not sure how much it will help as my problem seems to be the controls.
Yeah, the controls are godawful, especially if you're used to mouse+keyboard.

The only tips I can give are getting very good at instant pattern recognition. There are a lot of common situations where you can instantly tell where mines will be. This page lists a lot of them: http://www.minesweeper.info/wiki/Strategy

It also helps to only flag if you really need to, ie if you are going to use spaces near that to clear neighbours. If the mine is on its own, don't bother flag, waste of time.

And if you get a 50/50, don't hesitate even for a moment. I decided that every time I meet a vertical 50/50 I always flag the top one. On horizontal I always flag the left. This becomes so much of a habit that I don't lose time anymore on these.

Incidentally, while going for 10 expert wins I improved my time to 186 lol.
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