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Old 03-11-2009, 11:06 PM   #31
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Man this game is going to take forever to complete because of these trophies
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Another potential missable are all of the "Defeat Your Own Shadow" trophies, I'm not sure if they respawn or not, the first boss in Cave of Seven Stars did not though.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:39 AM   #33
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For Edge's "Squat 200 times"
I got this earlier today simply from boosting trying to get blindsides for building my bonus board on Aeos/collecting insect eggs. Everyone was on manual and it was just me playing as Edge.
I presume the squat is when he's boosting.
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Defeat own shadow

This BT is available for each character. So far Shadows are bosses on the fifth floor of the Cave of the Seven Stars. Not much information is available about these bosses, as it seems only 3 shadows spawn, and 9 characters have it.

My personal guess is there are 3 different shadows for each difficulty, meaning you need to atleast clear to and beat the boss of the 5th floor in each difficulty. I am currently on the 4th floor of Cave of the Seven Stars on the Universe Playthough, so I should be able to test my theory soon.
The other Shadow bosses are in the Wandering Dungeon on floor 16 and 18.
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Thankyou Cybros, I was hoping someone could confirm that for me.

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EDIT: Also, thankyou for submissions, I have added them to the list
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This is probably obvious but the character in question does have to deliver the killing blow to their shadow form for the shadow BTs, it won't even count if the other character involved in a rush combo kills them. Needless to say, Shadow Sarah is no fun.
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I actually just killed them, and shadow Sarah was probably the easiest, once you got a handle of interrupting her heals and healing your guys... WTB 99,999 heal...

Hardest was Reimi, 'cause she's level 30... yeah I don't like playing with Reimi.


I've reworded the Defeat own shadow BT, to specificly say that the character in question must land the killing blow.
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just spent 2 hours typing up strats and I wasn't logged in so it erased everything... not happy

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Reimi:

Botany Drops / killing plants:

Go to lemuris for this, you need to make sure you have open slots in your inventory for the botany drops. The items each plant enemy drops include:

Dryad: Magic Seeds, Nectar, Wooden Stick, Blueberries
Mist Grave: Tasty Mushroom, Basil, Tasty Mushroom?
Giant Fungus: Tasty Mushroom, Basil, Tasty Mushroom?, Nectar
Man-Eating Tree: Tasty Mushroom, Wooden Stick, Aquaberries, blackberries, Fire gem

Recover from incap 10 times in a battle:

Self-destruct modules work best for this.

Defeat an enemy in exactly X minutes:

Use a stopwatch (most phones have em, ipods have em), figure out how long your attack takes, and eliminate all enemies but one, and narrow his health down to a one shot kill, attack when the delay will make the attack hit on the target time. Example, reimis attack takes 2 seconds (just guestimating) so kill everyone but one enemy and attack at the 2:58 mark ending the battle at 3 minutes.

Strike two enemies at once:

Get in a fight with Killer bees on Aeos. Make sure there are multiple bees and use taunt with Edge, target one of the bees and use Sonic Thorn to hit both enemies.

Defeat a paralyzed enemy:

easiest way is to you a bomb to paralyze then move in for the kill.

Faize:

Defeat 130 types of enemies:

When the title refers to "type" they mean individual enemies, there are only 154 enemies in the entire game, and when you factor in bosses, you are going to need to defeat almost every generic foot soldier enemy in the game with faize.

Defeat 999 insects:

I'd just go to Aeos for this one, almost every enemy there is an insect, so 999 should come quick.

8 bonus board tiles:

For this one make sure you have a clear bonus board, you need to get in a fight with at least four enemies, blindside each enemies and use Ice needles (it has a quick cast time, so they will still be surprised) you will get a critical hit AND Skill-only kill, so you will get 2 bonus board tiles for each enemy.

Freeze an enemy with ice needles / Defeat a frozen enemy:

max out ice needles and use the crap out of it, it will eventually freeze an enemy, just move in for the kill before they thaw out.

stab enemies 3000 times with a rapier:

This one isn't so bad, use Faize's close quarters attack (tilt the joystick towards the enemy when close), he will stab with like 4 weak ones, then 1 strong finish. Take off your weapon and switch to BEAT:B to get more stabs out of each enemy.

Win while poisened:

Just poisen yourself with an item, then win. easy enough.

Cure a poisoned ally / within 1 and 5 seconds:

wait for an enemy to poison your teammate (the trees on lemuris will work, but I've only ever seen them use poisen cloud once) and be ready to hit y as soon as you see the little poisen icon and cure your ally.

Use an Earth Symbol on an enemy weak to Earth:

Use earth glaive on a killer wasp enemy on Aeos

Use a darkness symbol on an enemy weak to darkness:

I've flipped through my entire guide and the only enemies weak to darkness I've seen are the Kokabiel risen and ring beast. Just use shadow needles on either of these enemies and your good.

Use a water symbol on an enemy weak to water:

Use ice needles on a saber-toothed tiger on lemuris

Scan 10 enemies:

I got this by using the Scan skill on 10 different enemies (you get this on lemuris), not sure if 10 of the same enemies will work.

Fail to recover stolen fol:

Get in a fight with apprentice scumbags on lemuris, let them steal from you and run away.

Land eight hits with stone rain:

Max out the stone rain skill and when fighting a bigger boss, use it on them and don't get interrepted, between the size of the boss, and the upgraded skill, you should be able to get 8 hits.

Spend 30 min airborne:

I dont know about any of his later special arts, but if you press the B-button and the joystick in a direction, your character will jump, it will take a while, but just jump around a hell of a lot.

Defeat 50 consecutive enemies of the same type:

You have to defeat 50 of the same enemy in a row, I did this on Aeos with Adephaga Drus, go to the cave entrance after the first field with monsters in the game, if you get in a fight with multiple types of enemies, only kill the adephaga drus, and then flee, after 50, this trophy will unlock.

Lymle:

Use a wind symbol on an enemy weak to wind:

Use Wind blade on an Adephaga Drus on Aeos

Use a thunder symbol on an enemy weak to thunder (isn't thunder the sound of lightning? lol):

Use lightning blast on Killer Chelae (the crabs on Aeos).

Use a fire on an enemy weak to fire:

Use Fire bolt on a Dryad on lemuris

Defeat a silenced enemy / 100 silenced enemies:

use silence on enemies then kill em, easy as that.

Silence 10 enemies in a row:

Max out your silence skill, then go to lemuris and get in fights with mushrooms, wait for them to stop moving then use silence, make sure all attempts succeed, if you max it out and do it on mushrooms, very very very rarely will any attempts fail, do 10 in a row and your good, once you've silenced an enemy, proceed to kill them.

get knocked down 40 times in one battle:

Go to the trees on lemuris, they will knock you down with almost every attack, just make sure you can heal yourself.

Strike three enemies with lightning blast:

get in a fight with at least three enemies and use taunt with another character, wait for the enemies to clump together, then use lightning blast and target the enemy in the back, so it hits all three enemies.

Allow all enemies to escape:

get in a fight with apprentice scumbags, make sure all the enemies are apprentice scumbags and no mixed in other guys, they will all eventually flee, after stealing or not, but they will all escape.

Bacchus:

80 Consecutive long-range attacks:

See my reimi strategy I posted a few days ago.

Land the battle winning blow 50 times in a row:

put all other characters on manual, and only fight with bacchus, after 50 battles, this will unlock.

Take no damage 35 times in a row:

see reimi strategy I posted a few days ago.

win in exactly X minutes:

See reimi strategy above

Guard against 20 consecutive attacks:

Wait until later in the game when your stats are obscenely high, then go fight the bugs on aeos who should have really low attack stats, and then just guard 20 against 20 attacks in a row.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:22 AM   #40
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Get 3 Status Ailments at once (works with 4 at once too)

Doesn't mean getting them all at the same time just means being under the effect of them at the same time so drink a poison cider, a cursed cider, a silent cider, and a cloudy cider and you'll get both of these.

And "Avoid getting a status ailment" and 5 times in a row, equip an anti-poison amulet and drink five poison ciders. Done and done.
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Old 03-13-2009, 01:57 AM   #41
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So with reimi's defeat an enemy in exactly three minutes. im trying to do it with a stopwatch, but when exactly do i start it? when i can first control my characters? as soon as you see enemies when you get into a battle?
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Old 03-13-2009, 02:56 AM   #42
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I've updated when to start counting on her BT Boshans, but you'll want to start counting as soon as you gain control.


Updated - Damn that was a lot at once, Thanks a ton Dexx and Jcec
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I just got Meracle and got the following BT's:

003: Land 10 consecutive hits unassisted
020: Land 15 consecutive hits unassisted
039: Land 20 consecutive hits unassisted
055: Land 25 consecutive hits unassisted
076: Land 30 consecutive hits unassisted
094: Land 35 consecutive hits unassisted

Easiest way I found was take off your weapon and chain Ripper Pounce 2-3times and you should get those easy. I did it off the Bigfoot Sam's in the Military Base. Almost forgot, put all other characters in manual mode before attempting so they don't run the hits.
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Old 03-13-2009, 04:03 AM   #44
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Man that looks like a lot of work.

A trick I use to go for the "exact" weapon damage trophies to make sure I keep ALL of the weapons I've ever had available for each character, and as a character starts to flirt with and/or go just over the amount they need I scale back the weapon to try and hit the target value.
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happy to help man, get this stickyed so I dont have to dig down for it, but I may not be posting for a little while, between finals and Resident Evil 5 (just got it at midnight) I'm probably going to lose a few hours of sleep and not play SO4 for a little while.

And on a side note, the three minute mark for Reimi is a pain in the *** I got the one minute mark on my first try, but for some reason, 3 just isn't unlocking for me, so just keep at it, I'm sure it will
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For Edge's 99,999 damage trophies, I got the first during a Rush Combo when I crit with Raging Strike. I imagine that would be easier to do without a weapon than farming attack seeds for hours on end. Just max his crit skill and have it on during the battle. Find an enemy with low defense (humans are usually best, maybe someone in the cave?) and throw down a rush combo and hope for a crit on your RS.
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The question though Pants, is how much extra ATK do you get from that sword? That's mainly the only reason you got a 99,999 crit.

Hope is at max level with 3 +ATK buffs and a berserking, you 'might' be able to crit that high without a weapon
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Oh, I know. I guess my point was RS has a better damage output than AS.
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For Edge's 99999 with no weapon, the Spriggan Monster Jewel doubles your attack so that'd definitely help.
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Yeah, I dislike Edge's character fighting style so I don't use him whenever I don't have to.

I'll update it though.
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I'm trying to get the item drops to work, my specific example involves Demonology with Myuria. I've been killing Stone Golems on Lemuris... I know they drop Crystal, Earth Gems, Iron, and Silver so I've made sure I don't have 20 of any of them before fighting (I've kept it at 18 just in case). I fight one, it's a group with one golem and two mushrooms, Reimi kills the mushrooms Myuria kills the golem. The golem drops something or other. Fight another group, one mushroom two golems. Reimi kills the mushroom, Myuria kills the golems. They BOTH drop something. No BT. Nothing is at 20.

Any idea why this didn't work? Do the fights have to be Demon exclusive?
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I'm fairly sure the "ology" trophies require you to get the RARE item from said monster. Like you would need the crystals for the Golems. I did not get Edge's "two in a row" trophy until I got two tri-Emblum's from the scumbags in the desert in a row.
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Ologies needing the rare item fits with my experience (and is actually what I assumed the deal was before but all the talk of "it doesn't count if you have 20" got my head confused), I'm not sure what dropped for Arumat when I got his but Edge's I got with Lezard Flasks from Spirit Priests, their rare item.
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I think the not having 20 already still makes sense though so don't ignore that, but I also think it needs to be the rare drop as well.
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I think the not having 20 already still makes sense though so don't ignore that, but I also think it needs to be the rare drop as well.
Yeah believe me considering I have to get 255 of these drops with 9 different people (head math... 2295?) I'm not taking any chances with having 20 items, I'll be dropping crap all over the place.
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There's a fine line between having an 'ology' drop and just a regular monster drop.

Here's an example:

40% base chance for a monster to drop an item, this is un-influenced by any factor in the game and is a static chance.

Now lets say you add an 'ology' skill into this mix, it gives 10% at max level (guess, don't take it as fact) to get an item drop, usually the rarest of items.

That makes it a 50% total chance to get an item to drop in a battle. However if an item drops, it's still only a 20% chance that it dropped because of your 'ology' skill.

So the reason it might not be unlocking is because of that factor, not every item drop is triggered by the 'ology' skill

However, say each drop that you had was procced by your 'ology' skill Dexx, you would of received the drops like so:

Demonology drop
Botany drop
Demonology drop

Because there was a Botany drop in the middle of the 2 Demonology drops the 2 in a row does not count. You do get credit for the 2 Demonology and the 2 Botany to your total count however.

Say you didn't get the Botany drop, but this happened:

Demonology drop
Regular monster drop - golem

Even though both items dropped from the golems, because only one of them was an 'ology' drop it dosen't count, the regular drop cancels out the 2 Demonology BT again.


Also, on further study, it appears you do not need to have open space for the item to fit into your inventory. I was fighting the golems in Wandering Dungeon with Myuria, killed 4 in a row and got the 2 Demonology drops in a row. The only items that dropped were Geostones and Moonstones, both of which I was full on before entering the fight.

I still want to test this on another character, just to be sure, but at the moment it looks like you don't need an empty inventory.
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018: Make a Mandragora Cry

Simply have Lymel defeat or blindside a Mandragora and you should get this.

Didn't see anything posted on this one, so I figured I'd post how I got it...
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Been taking a look at healing 777 and 7777 health for Sarah. here's what I've found.

For 777

Faerie Healing 3 and 2775 HP
Faerie Healing 5 and 2590 HP
Faerie Healing 10 and 2220 HP
Healing 5 and 2220 HP
Healing 7 and 2100 HP

For 7777 you would need

Faerie Healing 3 and 27775 HP
Faerie Healing 10 and 22220 HP
Healing 5 and 22220 HP

You can get both Faerie Healing & Healing cards in 10 and 5, but not in anything else, so we'll only count those.

I've also checked for any item that gives -HP%, -HP, +HP or +HP% and found these.

-20%
-50%
-300 HP
-800 HP
-200 HP
-500 HP
+40 HP
+20 HP
+100 HP
+5% HP

That means we can make the following -HP%'s (assuming that these stack the way I think they do, which is each % only applies once.)

-15%
-20%
-45%
-50%
-65%
-70%

With this information we might be able to tweak around our health enough to get this to work. For instance, using a Rank 5 Faerie Heal (which needs the highest health point):

Need to get 2590 Health

-15% - 3047 Health
-20% - 3237 Health
-45% - 4709 Health
-50% - 5180 Health
-65% - 7400 Health
-70% - 8633 Health

So with the current data, it seems like this is a pretty big missable, however that depends on if the %'s stack or not on the same, i.e. if we could stack 2 -50%'s and one +5%, we'd need 51800 health, much easier late game.


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Simply have Lymel defeat or blindside a Mandragora and you should get this.

Didn't see anything posted on this one, so I figured I'd post how I got it...
I like my Answer better: Uhh....


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Demonology drop
Botany drop
Demonology drop
I was fighting with Reimi in the group so loot was dropping everywhere, it actually went in the order I killed them

Botany
Demonology

Botany
Demonology
Demonology

In essence I had both 2 in a row and 2 battles in a row of demonology drops. I think it's an evil, complicated, vague, and ultimately unverifiable game mechanic. Bastards.
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