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Old 05-16-2009, 12:37 AM   #61
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Well, as I said, I haven't tested everything. Doing it with 2 people is something I had not tested. That's probably one way to make it not work. I'll update the guide, and test it myself later.

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Edit: Would anyone like to help me to help test this? I'd rather not host a game and then spring this upon some random person who has no idea WTF the glitch is and only wants to run Helheim.

I'd appreciate it!
i will be on for another couple hours here and id be willing to see if we could solve the problem
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Old 05-16-2009, 12:45 AM   #62
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I've odne this glitch in multiplayer before, with both one and two people. With two people, try having the second guy stand away from the door, I'd advise to the right of the door, and doing nothing for the first two kills, then joining in after that. Failing that, get the killing set up and then invite your mate after the first few kills hen you have it working. Try that and then get back to us.
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:13 AM   #63
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thank you flip got it, for future reference it does not work with both people standing at the door waiting for it to open
p.s the second guy was standing a few steps from the reset point and it worked, beside the bridge leading to the well
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Old 05-16-2009, 01:20 AM   #64
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Anytime. Glad you got it working.
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What type of weapon and add on runes do you use to get the range needed? I can't seem to get a weapon that can hit the spider from the doorway without moving closer. By then I hit their detection range and the whole room comes after me.

I'm guessing I need maxed out Ballistic lock distance and Rifle Ballistic Range? Do these help with laser and bullet type weapons?Thanks
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I just use a lvl 50 epic rifle (no runes for range booost) and shoot grenades, FYI I'm a Human champ so yeah...
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Old 05-18-2009, 01:06 AM   #67
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What type of weapon and add on runes do you use to get the range needed? I can't seem to get a weapon that can hit the spider from the doorway without moving closer. By then I hit their detection range and the whole room comes after me.

I'm guessing I need maxed out Ballistic lock distance and Rifle Ballistic Range? Do these help with laser and bullet type weapons?Thanks
human or cyber?
because if you can try using a slug cannon and using the secondary fire

option 2: re spec your skill tree to the left side to add ballistic range

option 3: give me a shout on live and i can help u out with it
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Old 05-18-2009, 02:35 PM   #68
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Few ways to get the range needed.

If your a commando, you'll have the range need anyway so long as you arent using pistols.

1) Use a rifle / cannon's secondary fire. Both the rocket and the grenade will damage the spider, so you just gotta keep going.

2) Use range increase runes. Obviously elite ones are better, but orange will do the job too without sacraficing too many rune slots. Personally I would advise having either a piece of altruist gear or a Seeker's / Enlightened weapon tht you can socket with +range and +damage runes and simply swap to that when you want to farm. The range runes are named Rifle Ballistic Range and Cannon Range, Ballistic Lock distance only affect secondary fire, and should be left alone.

3) If your cybernetic, respec and throw some points into Ballistic Telemetry Feedback, which will improve your range by 2% increments, maxing out at 20%, or 28% with +4 to all skills.

These will pretty much cater for everyone, Im not sure what the range increase % needed is to hit the spider.
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Thanks for the tips gentlemen.
I have a human Bezerker. I was confused as to what I needed to add. I also need a better weapon too.

Will the secondary fire do damage even though I don't see a health bar? I assume that's what your saying. I just didn't do my homework and keep firing long enough to see if he was getting hurt. I'll try that and I'll respec my tree to better suit my farming needs.

Fun game once you understand the depth to the character building. I would've love to have more than 4 levels. Bring on Too Human2.
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Yes, the grenades will still hurt him. as long as he is in the blast radius, the grenade will nail on him, making it a viable strategy for characters with less range.

Yeah, i love this game, depth is good. Loads of ways to build the characters, an creativity breeds excellence... or some ub3r l33t proverb like that.
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I already had the full 1000/1000 so was just looking for more equipment and runes, and so wish I'd known about this earlier. It makes spider farming so much quicker so there is no wasted time waiting for the items to float over to you.

You might spend a few minutes doing 1-3, but it more than pays off if you plan to spider farm for even just an hour.
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Old 05-19-2009, 06:55 PM   #72
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This is nice but the game still hates me---farmed two hours a few days ago and still only got one red drop (it was a red rune of all things)

However I did happen to go back to the weapon shop and finally find a pair of elite dual blades so yeah me!
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Indeed. Also gives you the Aesir gear you would have otherwise missed out on.

Personally I'd rather get red runes than anything else, but Ive got everything else available I guess.
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Old 05-19-2009, 10:56 PM   #74
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This is nice but the game still hates me---farmed two hours a few days ago and still only got one red drop (it was a red rune of all things)

However I did happen to go back to the weapon shop and finally find a pair of elite dual blades so yeah me!
whats your loot drop % ? The closer you can get the the cap (15%) the better. I have mine at 14% on my commando's farming gear and I do very well during my farming session. red runes will drop far more frequently but I was able to get my very own epic set for my commando with this new method.
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Old 05-20-2009, 12:06 PM   #75
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its capped at 15 and dont get me wrong i have gotten tons of stuff drooping but its usually orange and never red
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Keep at it mate. Hard to visualize the codes and formulae used to determine loot, but all we can do is max out what we're given and just persevere with it. Other thing you could do is get the first 4 WS tokens - Richie Marley claims they help, though Im not convinced. Might be worth a shot though if things are looking pretty grim.
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Want me to go poon him with a ninja palm strike? Wha-POW! To the moon.

Say the word dude, sucks that he went an stole it.
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Old 05-24-2009, 09:03 PM   #79
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Edit; Looks like someone sorted it out.

If you can read this, you've my thanks. All I wanted was a link to this board. I appreciate it.

Right as my account got activated, too. Crazy how things work out..

Edit2; Apparently my account isn't Fully activated -- Bullshit -- but at least now I can edit my sig and such. Whoopee. Excuse the barn voice..
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Sorted Goose. Aint I helpful? I still would have preferred the ninja palm strike though man.
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You can palm strike the next person to plagiarize.

Edit; I'm slow today.. Anyway, why aren't the health orbs comin' to ya? They've always come to me.
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Hmm, nevermind, might be a stupid moment. Ill go edit that post.
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:30 AM   #83
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Ya know what is weird, today in one 1 hour session I got 3 red runes to drop. After making a few other HOH runs looking for relevant lev 1 charms, I went back tonight and got hardly anything, no reds, no orange, no decent items at all.. been 2+ hours now and I am am startingg to wonder if there is some sort of session that is established and it hass a pool of random items it will drop... maybe I am just going stir crazy.

I think I will test out that theory and go back to Aesir, then reload 3-4.. and see if it makes any changes.

I am gonna try that in 30 mins from now since that will be an even 3 hours worth of attempts.
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Hmmm 9th spider farm kill after making another HOH run... and it dropped Red Claws of Skoll. Halfway to an unintended set!
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I severely doubt theres anything like that. It's just blind luck what you get once yove maxed everything out.
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Hit or miss I say. I have been farming for the past two days to get my last ach and have yet to have anything red drop. I really doesn't bother me as I already have a full red set for my Zerk, but it would be nice to have a piece or two for my commando.

On another note...how often does the leaderboard get updated? i have been farming for two days and my stats have not changed! Hopefully this is not a glitch on my character as I have no plans to redo 7500 drops. Two days ago I was at 6780 so I should be getting close as long as it is keeping count.
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I'll have a look for you, im not sure if mine have changed or not, but I'll check and see if it's just your console being odd about things. I doubt it will be, but I'll look for you anyway.

Im not sure how often the leaderboards are updated though, but your console / save should have a separate counter for the achievement anyway, so even if the leaderboard is frozen your counter shouldnt be. However, if it is a problem with your actual counter you could try farming on a different character instead.

Edit: Leaderboards seem to be alright anyway, your counter is logged as 7265 on my screen.
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Hit or miss I say.
This is global to any sort of farming, I believe.

As long there's a drop rate you can't change, it'll be hit or miss, I'm afraid. However, two days is pretty bad. Wish you the best of luck, friend.

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You an your eternally happy and friendly nature Goose. Fiendly Neighbourhood Bast.. ion. Nice.

Aye, hit n miss. As the fair-feathered bird of fertility said, it is and always will be like this. All we can do is pray.
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Sticky! Wooo!

That is most excellent. Most excellent indeed.

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