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Old 07-29-2009, 12:32 PM   #1
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'Borderlands' Has 3,166,880 Different Weapons

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"Borderlands" had its first hands-on debut in New York City a couple of weeks ago, but I was on-hand to check out the game in the wilds of Brooklyn.

Full impressions coming in a bit, but I wanted to call attention to something I noticed during the demo. Randy Pitchford, the president and founder of Gearbox, was walking us through the single-player campaign when he was hit by a need to show off a particularly cool gun. Jumping into a debug menu screen, he was able to select a few parameters to find just the sorta gun he was looking for. In this case it was a rocket launcher with the description, "Holy sh*t, it shoots rockets!"


The debug menu was fascinating, though, as it's basically a giant database of all the possible combinations of guns you can have, from sniper rifles with shock damage and a blue scope to uzis with flame effects and a red barrel. For each category the total number of possible guns was listed and, at the top, was the total number of guns that could be created with all the possible combinations.

That number was 3,166,880.

Keep in mind the game is still pre-release, and that number could go even higher. So yeah, you won't be finding all the guns in the game, unless you figure out a way to cheat. Or you literally spend 6.025 years playing "Borderlands," which is how long you would need to play if you were finding a new gun every minute.
I'm already excited about this game after learning that it'd be a shooter/rpg. I also love the art style and such... looks like it'll be a fun game.. can't wait till release time.
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The thread title is a bit misleading I'm afraid. The game does not have 3 million types of weapons. It has over 3 million different weapon combos.
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Pistol
Pistol w/ different scope
Pistol w/ different types of plating
Pistol w/ different types of ammo
Just to be clear, it'll be weapon combos, not different types of weapons.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:51 PM   #2
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I love being able to customize weapons to my preference and this had me sold at 500,000 weapons but 3,166,880!?!? That's insane! =D will be buying this me thinks.
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Old 07-29-2009, 07:54 PM   #3
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Interesting gimick, though i assume you will only need to use 3 weapons throughout the game...
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Old 08-01-2009, 03:10 AM   #5
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I want to see this so called 3 million array of weapons. Hopefully they have a wide variety type and not 100,000 ak47's with different colors in different places.
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Old 08-01-2009, 04:15 AM   #6
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That's pretty insane, never heard if anything like this before, ever.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:19 AM   #7
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I've been following this game for years. Nice to see it finally getting a release!
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:25 AM   #8
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Really, I've never heard of it untill last week or so.
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Old 08-01-2009, 05:39 AM   #9
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Really, I've never heard of it untill last week or so.
lol, really?
The choice of more than 1 million guns has been the main thing about the game i've been hearing about them since it's first trailer. I like how it's cel shade now, makes the game look chill. First trailer looked so freaking serious when i saw it, not to say it was a bad thing though.
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It going to be cool to customize your own guns and stuff so I'm defiantly going to pick this up.
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The thread title is a bit misleading I'm afraid. The game does not have 3 million types of weapons. It has over 3 million different weapon combos.
Example:
Pistol
Pistol w/ different scope
Pistol w/ different types of plating
Pistol w/ different types of ammo

Still, 3 million is a pretty impressive number.

Don't like the new graphics for this game, but I guess it comes down to gameplay in the end so this game is on my list.....
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Old 08-01-2009, 06:05 AM   #12
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ohhh, good point out. I should note that it's weapon combonations and not weapons. Besides, i don't even think that having three million different type of unique weapons would be possible.
I'm loving the shooter/rpg by the way
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:33 PM   #13
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According to this interview LINK: http://www.computerandvideogames.com....php?id=220328

The actually number of weapons with all different permutations is 17,750,000.
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Old 08-07-2009, 04:38 PM   #14
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If its just different scopes, colors and whatnot, its not nearly as impressive...this game still looks interesting
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I don't really care for the new art style, imo they shot themselves in the foot on that but its still cool to see them implementing that weapon algorithm. I will probably pass on this one, at least for a while anyways.
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''Hey dude i have the same gun as you''

I'd be laughing my ass off for days...
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i swear this, dragon age, and mw2 are going to make me poor until christmas..........

and to all those complaining about variations of weapons
sorry, but i think that you shouldn't be making any comments about it. No matter how you look at it, you are still going to have thousands, possibly 10's of thousands of different weapons, which will all be legitimately different (sniper to smg to shotty etc) plus, what are the chances of you finding a weapon that you already have a similar version of? cmon guys, stop nit picking, this is going to be great

personally, this game had me sold just when i heard about the weapons, now even more so with cell-shading.

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id hate to be the person to make 3,166,880 weapons.
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id hate to be the person to make 3,166,880 weapons.
Have you read NOTHING about this game?! A person didn't make every gun. They developed manufacturing software, basically, to take different parts of guns, different skins, etc. and randomly assemble these. It is actually quite impressive and amazingly cool.
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Interesting, I will add this game to my must have list.
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the last few interviews i read pegged the total number of possible weapons at 17 million
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the last few interviews i read pegged the total number of possible weapons at 17 million
It isn't necessarily weapons.... rather weapon types or combonations. Like a shotgun with a grenade launcher or a sniper scope or some crap like that. That's seriously still a lot though
Anything over a million is crazy.
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Have you read NOTHING about this game?! A person didn't make every gun. They developed manufacturing software, basically, to take different parts of guns, different skins, etc. and randomly assemble these. It is actually quite impressive and amazingly cool.
Soz i did'nt relly read much i just saw the number of weapons.
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It isn't necessarily weapons.... rather weapon types or combonations. Like a shotgun with a grenade launcher or a sniper scope or some crap like that. That's seriously still a lot though
Anything over a million is crazy.
oh yeah i know. but still, 17 million combination's is ridiculous.
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so who is going to try and get them all? :P
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Holy......crap.....way too many weapons
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3,166,880 weapons huh?

Does anyone else remember Fallout 3's "Dozens" of endings? It turned out to be the worst part of the game.
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thats cause fallouts ending just sucked. And a few million of these guns will probably be pretty bad, but you'll come across some awesome ones.

And in the latest PC gamer it was said that any single player will only find 500,000-600,000 in his game so if you really wanted all 3 million or 17 million you'll have to play and trade for the rest of your life lol.
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oh yeah i know. but still, 17 million combination's is ridiculous.
It is fucking ridiculous!
I mean, 1 million is amazing but 17 million is bat shit crazy.
We'll see in October though.... this shit will be fucking crazy!
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