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Old 09-07-2009, 12:20 AM   #1
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Seriously, f*ck the combat challenges!

Fair enough to anybody who can sit there and have the patience to deal with them, but I have had enough.

I have completed the game, got all the riddles, done all the predator challenges and I am left with the combat ones, what a joke they are. Before you claim I am unskilled or lack the patience, I have tried for hours to complete them and the same bs happens.

An enemy will come out of nowhere, the counter will fail and he ruins a combo, I will press the attack button and the game wont recognise it thus ending my combo, it just really isnt worth the hassle.

I will rest with completing the game fully without the combat challenge achievements. Lets be real, the combat in this game is definetly the weakest element so relying on chance to fluke your way though a combat challenge cos the combat gameplay wasnt created to properly react to your movements isnt my idea of fun.

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:44 AM   #2
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Yeah the combat challenges can be really frustrating and most times it seems like it's the game's fault especially with the combat. Instances where Batman doesn't react fast enough or when the Y button counter icon shows up too late don't help at all when trying to get the 3 medals. Hopefully a patch will fix some of the clinks in the combat gameplay.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:44 AM   #3
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The combat system isn't broken. If it were, no one could beat the challenges.

And now I'll beat a dead horse:

Earning the medals in combat challenges takes skill. Skill takes practice and patience.

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Old 09-07-2009, 12:57 AM   #4
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Not arguing that the combat is broken, it's not if anything its fun to play. Just the few instances in the combat challenges where the combat becomes a little hectic and the there is a few weird glitchy moments. Without those it would have made it a little more enjoyable.
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Old 09-07-2009, 12:59 AM   #5
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The combat system isn't broken. If it were, no one could beat the challenges.

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Earning the medals in combat challenges takes skill. Skill takes practice and patience.

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^exactly.....they are hard but possible, some people dont have perseverance...Took me 10+ hours to beat shock and awe extreme...so obviously im not super skilled but I did it cause this game is too awesome not to get 100%
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:02 AM   #6
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the worst is when you have only a few guys left an he breaks the combo cause the next guy is too far away....ive had this happen a few times an its crap cause most of the times he'll do some gymnastic triple cartwheel across the entire floor to get to some guys but then other times he doesnt....
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Old 09-07-2009, 01:35 AM   #7
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What are you the Dark Knight or the Dark Wimper, suck it up man.

Combat system isn't broken, if your counter doesn't work you've probably missed the window or will have initiate another move before hand.

If your too far away from guys that's what your baterang & batclaw moves are for.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:19 AM   #8
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I'm having a hard time with the combat as well but the Predator ones seem more chalenging. . . .I know its simple. . . do this do that and then it doesn't matter if you get "shot" still I'm a raving perfectionist and I try to go for a super fast time instead of sitting around with a thumb up my ass. . . . I've watched the vids and people doing this shit like its no big deal. . . .but when I do the exact same thing some prisoner waits outside for me to pop my little bat head out. . . .I know I can do the combat ones its just a matter of utilizing the Batclaw and ground takedown. . . .you might not think it but each ground takedown gives you 100 points X however big your combo is. . . .doing the math that for example is 21 X 100 = 2,100 thats alot of points. . . . for just one takedown.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:21 AM   #9
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hey common now, the combat in this game is amazing. the combos just look and feel so right. The combat challenges are made this way so they are a challenge (hence the name) If you dont have the patience to get them, thats cool, because beating the game and getting all the riddles was enough for me. so just leave it, who cares... but dont go cussing at the game because you dont want to participate in something in it.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:29 AM   #10
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The combat sucks, especially during challenge mode.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:36 AM   #11
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I pretty much found if you button mash the game will acually aknowledge that you pressed "X" and the end of the first "X" . . . . so as the thug with the pipe is swinging. . . you go to whack him instead of grabbin the pipe and shoving it up his Joker hole
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:47 AM   #12
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lol @ joker hole. seriously though, shit! I'm about to break controllers over here and I'm just on sewer bat extreme getting 44-47K half a dozen times now. The challenges are very hard but I seriously haven't had my heart racing so much from playing a game in a long long time. I will play them until my fingers are bloody little nubs if I have to. As someone else already stated, this game is too badass to not 1K it. So make batman proud, children. The challenges are exhilrating and make me throw up the devil horns every time I pass one. You really owe it to yourself to wrap your head around the combat system. Only 3 more to go.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:53 AM   #13
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lol @ joker hole. seriously though, shit! I'm about to break controllers over here and I'm just on sewer bat extreme getting 44-47K half a dozen times now. The challenges are very hard but I seriously haven't had my heart racing so much from playing a game in a long long time. I will play them until my fingers are bloody little nubs if I have to. As someone else already stated, this game is too badass to not 1K it. So make batman proud, children. The challenges are exhilrating and make me throw up the devil horns every time I pass one. You really owe it to yourself to wrap your head around the combat system. Only 3 more to go.
Well try not to focus on all the rounds. . . .its a no brainer that the starting rounds are easier so do those first.

and ya I agree with you. . . .I have to 1K this shit before I switch comic book gears for Marvel Ultimate Alliance LOL
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:54 AM   #14
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the worst is when you have only a few guys left an he breaks the combo cause the next guy is too far away....ive had this happen a few times an its crap cause most of the times he'll do some gymnastic triple cartwheel across the entire floor to get to some guys but then other times he doesnt....
This is when you use the throw (X+Y), takedown (Y+B), or hell, even the ground pound (RT+Y).

Batman literally 'homes' in on whoever is left as long as they're not ridiculously far away.
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Old 09-07-2009, 02:57 AM   #15
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Ya the best thing to do during that situation is to batclaw em. . . .maybe by then you'll be able to close the gap.
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Ya the best thing to do during that situation is to batclaw em. . . .maybe by then you'll be able to close the gap.
Yeah, you can do that too, but I find this quite risky... If you're facing the wrong way just a little, you can batclaw air and lose your combo.

Happened to me more than a few times :X
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:05 AM   #17
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The combat system isn't broken. If it were, no one could beat the challenges.

And now I'll beat a dead horse:

Earning the medals in combat challenges takes skill. Skill takes practice and patience.

Fact.
I couldn't agree more. Getting 3 bats on all challenges takes alot of skill and practice. It took me a very long time but it's not chance at all, it's your skill using batman and the whole range of moves. And there are many guides and tips for this. And dont for a second think that you are or were the only one cursing at this game calling the challenge's mother all sorts of derogatory comments, sexually even, if they had one lol. Keep the faith!!

And I had the same feeling smokestacker, I owed it to batman to 1000 it. Takes a hell of a game for you to get your ass kicked and come back for more.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:14 AM   #18
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I don't really see why your so upset about these challenges, yes they are hard. I don't intend on beating them, i normally end up killing all the enemies before i can get a decent score.

So far my highest combo have been around 35 or so and i know it wont go any higher than that. Either practice and don't complain about it or just or just accept that your probably not going to beat them.

I have plenty of other games i want to play over this one once they come out so i will give the challenges a blast once in a while and just keep trying. If i never do them at least i tried.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:26 AM   #19
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yea i agree with most of you all, however, reading the tips on combat challenges thread helps. Myself among others have posted ways to get the medals. It's all about keeping your combo up and groundpound. It took me forever to complete this game (1000/1000) due to challenges, but its doable just keep practicing on the same challenge until u get it then move on to the next.
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I only got 3 bats on the first combat challenge so far. It's frustrating. Terrible combat system.
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Old 09-07-2009, 03:41 AM   #21
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I only got 3 bats on the first combat challenge so far. It's frustrating. Terrible combat system.
yeah we heard u already...you think it sucks because you suck...

Its actually a genius mix between no skill button mashing and skilled comboing
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Old 09-07-2009, 04:42 AM   #22
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Looks like I'll be giving this game a big MISS. =D it's a good batman game but it aint THAT good like some of you are trying to force down our throats.
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Old 09-07-2009, 05:49 AM   #23
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I suck at keeping combos going. Without spending too much time, I don't think I will ever be able to do it very well.
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I can see both sides of this. I hate the combat, but then, if I had 10 hours plus to sit around and play the game, I probably would get all the challenges too.

I don't know if it's skill that some people can get them, or just blind luck and determination. If I spent 10 hours doing the same thing over and over, I would get it done eventually.

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it's really interesting how much more fun the combat is once you figure out the timing and rhythm. it's weird that the Story mode doesn't really teach you much about it. i didn't really figure it out until after i beat the game and began playing around with the Challenges. i think a lot of guys who simply mashed their way through the Story won't perfect Freeflow to get Gold.

personally, i'm loving it even though it's tough. but isn't that what a challenge is supposed to be? getting Gold is supposed to be hard.
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The Combat Challenges are there to test your skill, and to drive you crazy. It's taken me a bit, now all I have left is Shock and Awe Extreme, and I think I'm going to be stuck there a while...
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Love the combat. Just all looks really cool.
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I know that someone did 25 milion points
How is this possible ?
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I finally got all of them, they are really hard, and take an immense amount of time to complete. But there are several methods for doing it, you can strike and evade over and over, use your batarangs every other move, this keeps your combo going and ensures that you don't have 30 guys on their feet coming after you. Don't get discouraged by the leaderboards, or by the difficulty, take the challenges one at a time, and just play smart.
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its not possible. some sort of hack. i know people did the same thing with gears 2 where they were able to get level 100 on day one
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