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Old 02-01-2010, 04:14 PM   #1
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Jack NOT Loyal - anyone get her to survive suicide mission?

I am having trouble getting Jack to survive the suicide mission, and before you mention something like "get to 100% paragon//renegade to open up the greyed out dialogue option" to regain her loyalty(I did her loyalty mission but still lost it in a fight with miranda), I am at the point where it doesn't seem like I can gain anymore points towards maxing my paragon. Now, barring restarting a previous save I had before the Miranda//Jack fight, has anyone managed to keep Jack alive for the suicide mission(without her loyalty) and what squad//task combination did you use. Jack is such a b**ch(imo) in this game and now she's being one for this achievement lol. Any help is appreciated, thanks.
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:30 PM   #2
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I lost her loyalty in the Miranda fight too. But she did survive the suicide mission along with everybody else on Normal. My paragon was almost maxed and I was around a lvl24 soldier. I had everyone elses loyalty and all of the side missions done and all of the research upgrades done.

Use the thread below for suicide mission recommendations, they are the ones I used and I had no problems at all

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...d.php?t=204682
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:31 PM   #3
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I didnt had the loyalty of Jack either and nobody died, i did it as followed:

First time you choose your people:

Tech Specialist: Legion
Second Squad Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Miranda and Mordin


Second time you need to choose

Biotic Specialist: Samara
Leader for Escort: Grunt
Second Squad Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Miranda and Mordin
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Old 02-01-2010, 04:33 PM   #4
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I had everyone loyal but Zaeed, bitch wanted to leave the civilians for dead, but I managed to keep everyone alive. Wether it will work the same or not, take her with you up until you pick your last two allies to take down the final boss and the others stay back to defend, don't take her with you then.

Thats what I did and got my achievement.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:21 PM   #5
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I can also say I didn't have Jack loyal and managed to keep her alive during the suicide mission. I didn't use her for anything, though, not even my personal squad.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:46 PM   #6
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I didnt had the loyalty of Jack either and nobody died, i did it as followed:

First time you choose your people:

Tech Specialist: Legion
Second Squad Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Miranda and Mordin


Second time you need to choose

Biotic Specialist: Samara
Leader for Escort: Grunt
Second Squad Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Miranda and Mordin
Everyone survived in my group as well, and didn't have Jack's Loyalty either, she was mad at me

I did 1st pick:
2nd Leader: Garrus
Tech: Tali
Personal Group: Miranda and Grunt

2nd pick:
2nd Leader: Garrus
Biotic Specialist: Samara
Escort: Grunt
Personal Group: Miranda and Legion

Final pick:
Backup: Garrus
Personal Group: Miranda and Legion

I should note this was on Normal Difficulty: I am starting my Insanity Run today.
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Old 02-01-2010, 09:51 PM   #7
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I don't think difficulty has anything to do with it, if it did, nobody would survive on Insanity.
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Old 03-26-2010, 05:29 AM   #8
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Basically, Jack always dies for me, i'm on casual. Everyone but her is loyal, really pissing me off. I have done it five times now and she has died everytime
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Old 03-26-2010, 09:37 AM   #9
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I did . I just bought here biotic upgrade an she survived.

I din't use her for anything. She was the only one not loyal
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Old 03-26-2010, 11:17 AM   #10
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I had the same problem, I'd not got enough paragon/renegade.
I went with this team layout:

Tech: Legion
2nd Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Grunt/Jacob

Escort: Grunt
Biotic: Samara
2nd Leader: Garrus
My Squad: Mordin/Miranda

and I got the No-one left behind
(I kept the collector base, not sure if it makes a difference, but it might)
Like I said in the other thread, I'm pretty sure it was Miranda that killed her off on the run to the Normandy
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Old 03-26-2010, 01:12 PM   #11
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My first play through I sided with Miranda because I wanted that booty meat. I did as many side missions and upgrades as I could before the omega 4 relay. Legion on pipes. Garrus leading second team both times. Miranda and Grunt or Zaeed in my group. Samara with biotic shield and Mordin as escort. Everyone survived. On my second play through I didn't have Tali loyal and she died but I was also full renegade. On the first one I was about even and both sides had about 40-60%
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Old 03-27-2010, 12:47 PM   #12
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I had the same problem with Jack not being loyal, and ran the suicide mission twice (destroying and saving the ship), but she died both times. I finally got it thanks to some help from the Mass Effect 2 Wiki:

http://masseffect.wikia.com/wiki/Sui...uicide_Mission

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The team you pick here will stay with you for the rest of the suicide mission you will be fighting against Drones, Harbinger, Assassins, Abominations, Scions, and one giant Human-Reaper larva.
Ideal: Squad members that are loyal to you and are less suited for defensive tasks such as Mordin, Jack, Legion and Tali.
Non-Ideal: Squad members that are not loyal to you. They will die after the battle as the Collector station begins to fall apart.
Note: The teammates you do not pick are assigned to hold the line from the Collectors. A 'defensive skill' value is calculated for the 'hold the line' group as a whole, based on a defensive value inherent to each character. Loyal characters gain a bonus to this value. If the 'defensive skill' check is not high enough to ensure all characters' survival, squad members will be designated to die based on their vulnerability, with Mordin taking priority if he is present. Leaving behind strong defenders, such as Grunt, Garrus and Zaeed will increase the group's odds of survival. In contrast, certain characters such as Jack, Tali and especially Mordin have less skill in holding their position and should be removed through escort duty or taken along. The entire group will survive as long as the combined defensive skill is high enough, otherwise the game picks a squad member to die based on the scenario of who was left behind and how loyal the group members are. (Squad members who are not loyal are most likely to survive here then anywhere else, provided the group's collective defense skill is high enough.)
When I was doing it before, I was taking Grunt and Miranda with me. As this post explains, you need a high defense team to hold the door. I switched my final team to Mordin/Legion, and everyone survived!

I'm sure the same works for Miranda too, if she's your non-loyal.
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Old 03-27-2010, 01:15 PM   #13
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In my playthrough, I had this situation as well. But I took Grunt and Garrus with me, and didn't pick Jack for anything. No one died. Apparently everyone else loyal is enough to hold the door, Zaeed included. It surprised me too seeing as I took two of the three 'heavy defenders' with me instead of being at the door.
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