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Old 06-28-2010, 08:28 AM   #91
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I followed the following guide:
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on my first play through and unlocked it first attempt. Short, clear cut, precise. Highly recommended for anyone still having trouble with this Achievement.
That's a nice guide, it talks about more places to get moral points then this guide, like the Bridge in chapter two, but I'll use both guides.

According to this guide, if you hear Khan's voice at the end, when you can shoot the Dark One, or the guidance system, it means you can shoot the guidance system off the tower.

It also doesn't mention anything about not taking the ammo you find in the stations, since I never got a black screen flash from doing that, I'd have to agree. I think only the flashes matter, nothing else. Gold flash is good, black flash is bad.
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i followed the guide and i got the explorer achievement at the library and i also got enlightened. fantastic guide, superb work.

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Old 06-29-2010, 08:27 AM   #93
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Just beat the game again, and got this ending.

Just to verify, when you are climbing the tower, the Dark Ones will say the exact same things, no matter what ending you will get.

The only difference, is you'll hear Khan's voice, as you get up, with the pistol in your hand, that means you can shoot the guidance system off the tower.

As I thought, the only things that matters to get the ending, are the gold flashes, nothing else matters. So you can take ammo you find lying around the station, all of them, and you can loot any body you come across, even your NPC allies when they die.

I assume this guide was written when the game was still recently new, so we didn't know everything about the game we know now.
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Great guide! I just got the achievement.
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Old 07-08-2010, 11:22 PM   #95
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thank you lilysintrigue for the awsome guide. I found a flash when looking in a train with ammo crates that had baby dolls if you clicked on the dolls you get a flash.
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Old 07-18-2010, 06:03 PM   #96
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awesome guide, helped me out bigtime
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Old 07-19-2010, 09:18 PM   #97
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+ Eavesdrop on the group of men sitting on the trolley you arrived on. (Beware though some eavesdropping constitutes as a bad thing.)

question...why include this in the guide if it's a bad thing? I guess I'll try to avoid eavesdropping on the group but will that take away from the explorer achievement?
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:32 PM   #98
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Thanks for the great guide Lily, interesting reading the research/history you did. Followed all but a few of the things in your guide and I looted from pretty much anything and anyone and still got this achievement. The only bad flash I got/remember was from taking the bullets from the guitar player at the beginning of the game.
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Heard people getting the explorer achievement while getting the elightment ending, umm does the areas explored stack as you play through and play through the game again?
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Old 08-26-2010, 04:26 PM   #101
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Thanks for the guide, cant wait to try it out. will take a while though, i'll let you know how it goes.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:39 AM   #102
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+ Turn around and collect the night vision goggles from the storage box at the beginning of the tunnel.
+ Eavesdrop on the group of men sitting on the trolley you arrived on. (Beware though some eavesdropping constitutes as a bad thing.)
+ Find the body lodged in the pipes downstairs from the two injured fascist soldiers.
+ Save the Red Soldiers from the Fascists.

i havnt been able to find the body lodged in the pipes, iv found a few bodies but none have given me flashes so iv decided to press on

do either enlightened or explorer require you to get all the flashes mentioned in this guide or if i miss one or two should i still be okay?
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Old 09-05-2010, 10:09 AM   #103
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So can u loot criminals/looters?
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I can guarantee over 4 playthroughs that you can collect every single military grade round and loot everyone you find. I did, however, give rounds to all the beggars and completed every sidequest I could (save the communist prisoners, play the tape). I did get an awful lot of flashes, but I didn't get the explorer achievement til my second playthrough and the only military grade round I had missed was during the chase in the Red station.

I got the good ending on all 4 of my playthroughs.
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I can guarantee over 4 playthroughs that you can collect every single military grade round and loot everyone you find. I did, however, give rounds to all the beggars and completed every sidequest I could (save the communist prisoners, play the tape). I did get an awful lot of flashes, but I didn't get the explorer achievement til my second playthrough and the only military grade round I had missed was during the chase in the Red station.

I got the good ending on all 4 of my playthroughs.
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Old 09-21-2010, 06:20 AM   #106
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I'm inclined 2 believe that the 2 different endings are just based on whether or not U let the countdown commence & blow $@*! up (Hostile Ending) or U run up & hit X on the guidance system knocking it over (Enlightened Ending).

I played up until the begining of Chpt 5: Polis with no care what-so-ever as 2 being good or bad. I took every single piece of weaponry/ammo that was available whether it was from a commoner, soldier or handed/gifted 2 me. I only gave 1 gold bullet away 2 the kid in the doorway. Once Polis started up & saved I went back 2 the load screen & reloaded earlier chapters 2 get the Ka-Boom, Inquisitor, Heavy Metal, Metro Dweller, Explorer, Generous, Realist & Sherlock Achvs. I played from Exhibition 2 Trolley Combat (until my Heavy Metal achv popped) then went back 2 the load screen & started up Polis. I played from there till the end in a couple sittings. I didn't take no heed in any of my actions. I looted everybody & anything & killed everything in my path.

Got 2 the end game & watched the missiles hit the 1st time. Once the credits rolled I continued my game starting the final dream sequence over then this time at end game I jumped over 2 the guidance system & hit X to disarm it which he does by knocking it over the edge thus getting my Enlightened ending.

All in all I got ALL 1000pts in 1 playthru & 4 this reason thats why I think it has 2 just deal with what decision U make at end game since some of the achvs can be consider doing bad things.

Plus there is no set time as 2 when 1 becomes Enlightened. No matter what actions Artyom took throughout the game it was in the final moment that he had 2 choose between following in mans destructive nature 2 kill or 2 become Enlightened & open his mind 2 see the universal unity.

Just my 2 cents. Nice guide regardless.

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Old 09-26-2010, 07:50 PM   #107
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@shovelshot, you are wrong im afraid

you dont have the option to shoot the missle thing, or even to get up and push it off if you dont follow the good options throughout the game

anyway, thanks for the guide lily, just got it by following this
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Old 09-27-2010, 11:23 PM   #108
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I may be wrong but answer me this then: How was I able to watch the bad ending 1st then reload the last checkpoint & get the Enlightened ending 2nd?

According to Fizzmatixs' achv guide if you dont get the Enlightened ending on your 1st playthru then you must play the whole game over again to get the alt. ending. I was able to get all 1000pts. watching the Hostile ending 1st then getting the Enlightened ending 2nd (also the last achv I got) all in "1" playthru.

I'm not saying that everybody else is wrong but I know how my game turned out & it seems to contradict what everyone on here is saying about this achv. I still feel that you can play the game however you want & simply just jump over the dark one at the end & hit "X" to disarm the guideance system thus getting the Enlightened achv.

If I still owned this game I wouldn't mind playing thru it again to prove or disprove myself. Maybe someone who still has it can play thru it again doing only bad things then do the jumping & disarming at the end to see if the achv pops.

We all have different opinions & views on the subject & I'm sticking to my view that it does not matter how you play the game only whether or not you disarm the bomb at the end for the 2 seperate endings. Besides like I said in my initial post Enlightenment doesnt come from just doing multiple "good" deeds it comes in that 1 moment of clarity when the mind is free & in the case of Metro 2033 that is at the end when Artyom must decide whether to launch the missiles or to disarm the system.

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Old 09-27-2010, 11:35 PM   #109
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I may be wrong but answer me this then: How was I able to watch the bad ending 1st then reload the last checkpoint & get the Enlightened ending 2nd?

According to Fizzmatixs' achv guide if you dont get the Enlightened ending on your 1st playthru then you must play the whole game over again to get the alt. ending. I was able to get all 1000pts. watching the Hostile ending 1st then getting the Enlightened ending 2nd (also the last achv I got) all in "1" playthru.

I'm not saying that everybody else is wrong but I know how my game turned out & it seems to contradict what everyone on here is saying about this achv. I still feel that you can play the game however you want & simply just jump over the dark one at the end & hit "X" to disarm the guideance system thus getting the Enlightened achv.

If I still owned this game I wouldn't mind playing thru it again to prove or disprove myself. Maybe someone who still has it can play thru it again doing only bad things then do the jumping & disarming at the end to see if the achv pops.

We all have different opinions & views on the subject & I'm sticking to my view that it does not matter how you play the game only whether or not you disarm the bomb at the end for the 2 seperate endings. Besides like I said in my initial post Enlightenment doesnt come from just doing multiple "good" deeds it comes in that 1 moment of clarity when the mind is free & in the case of Metro 2033 that is at the end when Artyom must decide whether to launch the missiles or to disarm the system.

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No u need to do so many moral choices then u have the option to do either one if you do not make that many moral choices or the correct ones once you awake from the dream scene you cannot stand up, you just lay there when the missles shoot off.

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Old 09-28-2010, 01:26 AM   #110
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Ah, okay. Thanks for actually providing evidence instead of just telling me I'm wrong. lol So its like as long as you do all or most of the good moral choices then you can still do all the bad ones & still get both endings just as long as you get the end game where you get to stand up. Thanks for clarifing things for me. I thought it was weird that I had such a different experience then everyone else but I guess it wasn't that different after all. Just kinda confusing since I did the bad ending 1st I guess.

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Yea exactly, I did alot of bad choices but still got that ending by performng 51% or whatever for the choices and I wasn't trying, sense I killed the prisonners and most on the list are wrong but anyways, yea thats the bad ending for ya :P
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My second run-through was giving me every indication that I'd be in for the bad ending, with the Dark Ones saying I'll kill them and they must stop me, etc. Unlike my first time through however, I had the option to stand and shoot at the end. This game and its achievements are a bit much.
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Old 10-23-2010, 10:18 PM   #113
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Lilly i Love u !!!!!!


Thx i just got it
Your Guide Helped me in my 2 run !!!!!


So from here on i Just need to get somehow my last 2 !

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Old 10-31-2010, 02:30 AM   #114
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First, I will say thank you for the great guide.

I sincerely thought that, on my first run through (which I have just completed), that I would going to get the "bad" ending...

The reason? I looted every corpse that I came across. I looted every area I came across (even from the "poor"). I took the shells for rescuing the young boy.

What I didn't do however:

1. I did not kill any Librarians (I did the first one for the achievement and then reloaded)
2. I did not loot Boris.

I was surprised to have the Enlightened ending as an option once I completed the game.

Talk about completing the game...I finished it on Hardcore and the most disappointing thing is to not be rewarded for finishing it on a higher difficulty setting.
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Old 11-04-2010, 10:50 PM   #115
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Exhibition (Infirmary)
+ Take the postcard from Hunter.

Riga
+ Right before Bourban, on the second bridge pay all 3 beggar's
+ Do not accept Bourban's payment of bullet's for accompanying him.

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+ When you exit the level, in the room with the memorial / shrine, there are several bullets within the candles where Khan opens the grate. Collect them as you pass through to Armory. Khan mentions that this area is a shrine to hope, confirming the hope theory.

Depot
+ Killed the soldier to stop him from alerting the station.

Black Station
+ Eavesdrop on the two guards standing in the hallway.

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+ Did not take ammo or weapon from the fallen comrade.

Looting and collecting ammunition, weapons from here on out will not affect any of the final outcomes of the game.

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Follow the guide exactly apart from the remaining hints (either not reading carefully enough or couldn't work out how to do it) and DID NOT get the option for the alternative ending.

I tried for like 20 mins solid at Riga, trying to pay the beggars on the bridge before bourbon, but just couldn't get near them! To be perfectly honest I didn't even know which 3 the guide was on about....
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Hello i recently got this game and i had a great time playing this it was really good wish it got a better review anyways i only need this last achievement "enlightened" I got metro dweller and explorer last night i was happy with that but it gave me the " if its hostle shot it" ending... a little frustrating but i'll play the game again one more time i wont collect the Golden Bullets the currency ones right? but my question is can you pick up ammo up like in the boxes , or shelfs? i know you can pick up ammo from soldiers you killed such as the nazis or reds... but not your commrades or cilvians. or will that mess up the enlightened achievement? i'd like to know before i start this today. thanks Shadow Fox
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Hello i recently got this game and i had a great time playing this it was really good wish it got a better review anyways i only need this last achievement "enlightened" I got metro dweller and explorer last night i was happy with that but it gave me the " if its hostle shot it" ending... a little frustrating but i'll play the game again one more time i wont collect the Golden Bullets the currency ones right? but my question is can you pick up ammo up like in the boxes , or shelfs? i know you can pick up ammo from soldiers you killed such as the nazis or reds... but not your commrades or cilvians. or will that mess up the enlightened achievement? i'd like to know before i start this today. thanks Shadow Fox
Don't take any ammo from or near civilians to be safe, this includes ammo on bunk beds, so be careful around stations...but in the tunnels and enemy bases its pretty much anything goes. I looted nigh on every dead body I came across, didn't pay too much attention to their clothing. If you come across ammo in cabinets, draws,lockers,tables during non-station missions...its pretty much up for grabs. Alot of players say they have looted every dead body they found and got the chevo so I wouldn't worry too much. I definetly looted every ranger body I found in Dead City.

Follow OP's guide to the letter (even if you miss 2 or more things the alternate ending may not unlock) and just don't loot from or near civilians to be safe. You will find stacks of military grade ammo in the tunnels anyway.
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I think I accidentally looted a sleeping person after checking to see if a door opened. Will that cancel out my "Enlightenment"?

Also, what about bullets sitting around on tables? No one around or anything.
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Would seem rather strange to NOT shoot the Nosalises in the beginning, since if you don't you run the risk of getting killed and indirectly killing everyone in the hospital.
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thank you for this guide, worked like a charm
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