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Old 11-24-2010, 06:17 PM   #61
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It sucks that there aren't more easy songs, as I am a Novce player compared to all of you it seems.

These easy songs have a low amount of HOPOs anyways and not really worth playing. Also, even just looking at the Tears for Fears album art makes me want to rage let along play through it over and over.

but by definition HOPOs = hard song. (not really by definition)

I have played most of these songs on the list and I'll say that Freezepop - Less Talk More Rokk is by far the most cost effective.

I can only manage to get about 500 HOPOs per playthrough but that a lot better then struggling through songs with less Hammer-ons.

I'm now at 12,000 HOPOs. Hopefully someone finds some exploit for this like they have every other cheevo :P

PS: My Name Is Jonus sucks for HOPOs - what are there like 100? Few and far between and not that easy to nail

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Old 11-24-2010, 07:05 PM   #62
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I have played most of these songs on the list and I'll say that Freezepop - Less Talk More Rokk is by far the most cost effective.

I can only manage to get about 500 HOPOs per playthrough but that a lot better then struggling through songs with less Hammer-ons.
To be honest I think this one will end up being your best bet even if you're only reaching 500 in it- I just played through Free Bird on Hard mode to see if the slower chart still had a lot of HOPO's and there's less than 500 in it, and that's a 10 minute song :/
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:33 PM   #63
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Caprici Di Diablo and Rude Mood in my opinion are the best songs for attaining many HOs/POs.
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Old 11-25-2010, 12:30 AM   #64
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From playing naturally i've only gotten about 5000... this is gonna take a while. Thanks a lot for the song suggestions, at least with some variety this won't be so much of a chore to grind out...
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Old 11-25-2010, 03:25 AM   #65
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Err, Panic Attack?

The solo and the intro/outro are ripe for a few.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:08 AM   #66
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This song actually has quite a bit of HOPOs, and it even has two sections dedicated to HOPOs.
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Old 11-25-2010, 06:11 AM   #67
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This song has tons of HOPOs. I'm kind of surprised it's not already included.
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Old 11-25-2010, 09:41 AM   #68
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Beast and the Harlot-Avenged Sevenfold-Rock Band 3
This song has tons of HOPOs. I'm kind of surprised it's not already included.
Bad choice in my opinion- it's a 5:41 song with zero HOPO's in both the verses and the choruses, so it's very dependent on hitting the solo (which is one of the harder ones on-disc). I'd say the average player isn't going to hit more than 250 in this song (a quick run of 80% solo and FC of the rest got me a measly 215), which means if there's no DLC to for the player to choose from novice-to-average players would be better off grinding Everybody Wants to Rule the World (320~ HOPO's and a shorter song), whilst people that can hit (a decent portion of) the BatH solo are still better off playing Something Bigger, Something Brighter (670~ HOPO's and again, a shorter song).

You might want to add A CATSHOVEL and Spade422's ratio findings into the first post Steady, I know the list isn't finished but they're going to start getting lost in the middle pages of the thread at this rate. Honestly though, I don't think we're going to find a better song than Less Talk More Rokk now
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Old 11-25-2010, 08:13 PM   #69
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Yeah, I just tried Panic Attack and I managed 852 HOPOs... so... I hope you like Panic Attack...

EDIT: Fun fact for Guitars Suck. Just counted the HOPOs... or rather, lack thereof, in the first solo. Of the 1,028 notes in the first solo, only 26 are not HOPOs. So, if you can FC that first solo... you bank 1,002 HOPOs.

tl;dr:
Solo 1 is 1002 HOPOs to 26 regular notes.
Solo 2 is 344 HOPOs to 5 regular notes.
Solo 3 is 254 HOPOs to 13 regular notes.

Now this is all in the span of about 3:15 and I haven't count the HOPOs NOT in a solo yet... and I probably won't.

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Old 11-26-2010, 07:03 AM   #70
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Not too sure about the #s. Maybe 700ish HOPOs

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Old 11-26-2010, 10:41 PM   #71
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playing for 6 straight hours today, ugh. The same song over and over and over and over.

48,500 HOPO's @_____@

must....keep....going.....

*Edit* Finally got it! THanks for the help guys.

I ended up playing Less Talk More Rokk 92 times to get this!

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Old 11-27-2010, 07:05 PM   #72
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For the people asking for help hitting more HOPOs in Less Talk More Rokk, try tapping your foot as an intro to every sweep, and strum at the beginning of every sweep. (Even though it wont count towards the counter, you are more likely to hit it, if you strum at the beginning).

Using the tapping foot method, I get about 1,000 to 1,100. If you add the strum, take away about 100 or more.
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Old 11-27-2010, 10:37 PM   #73
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i really dont want to count hopos right now...
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Old 12-04-2010, 09:09 PM   #74
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Old 12-12-2010, 07:43 PM   #75
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Waking the Demon (160msp) is a great devil-tiered song that is filled with HOPOs, yet isn't another Guitars Suck or Caprici di Diablo. Personally, I'd put it on par with Like A Fool from the 20-pack, but most would probably say otherwise.

EDIT: Well, I had a video that worked when I viewed it on YouTube just an hour ago, but Sony has apparently blocked it.

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Old 12-12-2010, 08:23 PM   #76
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Shackler's Revenge on Expert is fairly decent, 80% of the song is HO/PO's and it's not that excruciatingly difficult to FC up to and after the solo.

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Old 12-14-2010, 04:16 AM   #77
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Half helpful post, half shameless plug.

There are a lot of RBN songs that have tons of HOPOs. Sometime Wednesday I'm gonna look through what I have to see what is the most HOPO-riddled material. I know off the top of my head that Steve Vai's "For The Love of God" has a metric ton of HOPOs in it, although it's a bit on the hard side. Same for "A Christmas Rock Medley" by Richard Campbell, I had the honor of testing that song and it's filled with HOPOs.

The shameless plug part is that I can name two songs my authoring group has released that have lots of HOPOs or are primarily HOPOs.
Far Wanderings (guitar only song, mostly HOPO-filled solos)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QpuO39D4_Q

Creatures ov Deception (verse, chorus and solo HOPOs)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uELKAzKfQ98

I linked full videos so you can evaluate and see if they would be helpful for the achievement. I haven't counted the number of HOPOs in each song. Both songs are 80 MSP.

I'll post back here once I've gone through my RBN library and determined what songs are the most HOPO-tastic.
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Anyway, the song has quite a bit of HOPOs, especially in the solo.
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Old 12-15-2010, 05:01 AM   #80
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Excellent dollar track for this (80 RBN):

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less talk more rokk.
this. and this only.

noob-proof and fairly short. the hopo/duration ratio is just huge.
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Old 12-19-2010, 09:10 AM   #83
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song length: 269 seconds (4:29 minutes)
possible HOPOs on expert: 1828
average HOPOs hit per second: 6.796

not that this song is the best choice, but i dare anybody to find a song with a higher HOPO ratio than this monster. give me the guitar chart and i will find the ratio.

edit: also, adding on to this:

IF this song has the highest HOPO ratio in the game AND it takes a total of 20 seconds (average) to restart the song, you COULD POSSIBLY get this achievement in 2 hours 25 minutes.
\m/ i knew beasting this song would pay off some day

"For the "85% guitar solos" achievement I took Rainbow In The Dark and Crazy Train down to Hard difficulty"

n00b... lol jk

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Old 12-19-2010, 06:06 PM   #84
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"For the "85% guitar solos" achievement I took Rainbow In The Dark and Crazy Train down to Hard difficulty"

n00b... lol jk
This is a thread about HOPO-cidal Maniac, not Bleeding Fingers.
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Old 12-19-2010, 08:01 PM   #85
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This is a thread about HOPO-cidal Maniac, not Bleeding Fingers.
He was quoting Didi Mau, but for some reason decided against the Quote button.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:03 AM   #86
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I just got this Achievement. Thanks to everybody who contributed to this thread.
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:15 AM   #87
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Old 12-20-2010, 02:53 AM   #88
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Bass HOPOs don't count, but otherwise, good list.
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The new Freezepop song "Special Effects" is almost entirely HO/POs and is only moderately difficult. Nowhere near as bad as Less Talk More Rokk. 80msp.

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Old 01-07-2011, 07:47 PM   #90
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Afterlife by Avenged Sevenfold has some good ones. Also, Seize the Day by Avenged Sevenfold. During the solo parts are at least 100-200 notes that are nothing put HOPOs alternating between each other.
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