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Old 09-22-2010, 11:50 PM   #1
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Halo Reach: "If They Came To Hear Me Beg" - How to get the achievement (Guarenteed)!

My help is long but is worth the read if you want to get this frustrating achievement.

After spending hours watching numerous videos on YouTube of people getting the achievement and performing the exact same assassination, I wondered, why after 100+ successful assassinations was I not getting this god damn achievement?!

Iíve read numerous forums of people trying to give tips such as: let go of sprint half way in the air; have your pistol out instead of the assault rifle; land behind him instead of on top of him and make sure you get the correct assassination animation etc, etcÖ

Well after numerous attempts of hitting him from every direction and timing each one differently, I realised that if you have the crosshair pointing at the elite (with the crosshair red) when you land behind him you miraculously remain alive. If however you land behind him whilst looking in the air for example (with the crosshair remaining white) you fall to your death. Evidence of this can all be backed up with the numerous videos on YouTube of the people getting this achievement, they seem to get the achievement when the crosshair isnít on the elite when they press RB. Their timing is bad and they hit him without looking directly on him. (Search for them on YouTube if you donít believe me).

Tips, you ask?: Well after watching the videos I was sure that my theory was correct so instead of aiming directly for the elite I decided to try and aim for in-between the elites arm and leg (this area is as close to the elite as possible, without having the crosshair red, whilst being in the Ďtriggered hitboxesí) and as soon as I hold down RB I move the right stick towards the elite to almost trigger the kill, which shouldnít be a kill as Iím not actually aiming for him. After only 6 minutes, yes 6 MINUTES I managed to get the achievement which I had previously spent hours trying to get.

Here's a YouTube video I quickly made up so people can see how I got it:


(Sorry for the bad quality, just quickly done it on my webcam so people can get video evidence of my tips)

My theory can all be backed up with previous tips, such as: having your pistol out (of course, why didnít I think of that before, the crosshair is half the size on the pistol than it is on the assault rifle so this will definitely help whilst trying to not aim for the elite and keep the crosshair white.); Letting go of sprint in mid-air (yes this is also helpful but you donít have to do it at a certain time, you can keep it on until you get right behind the elite and then take it off. Surely itís the speed that kills you from the fall, not the height which is triggered from when you stop sprinting?) and yes landing behind the elite is vital as landing on top of him will make you survive. Also I didnít use the head-crush animation which everyone else seems to be using when they get it. I somehow triggered a different animation when I got this.

So basically the people struggling to get this and not getting awarded with this achievement are the ones who can constantly keep the crosshair on the elite and the ones who manage to pull this off are the inconsistent ones whose aiming is all over the place and manage to trigger it in the last second. So with bunigeís bad engineering into this achievement, to get it, just donít be so good and miss him slightly!

Summary of tips:

Have your pistol out and let go of sprint anytime before the assassination.
Aim for in-between the elites arm and leg.

As soon as you hold down RB move the right stick towards the elite (to look at him/her/he-she/freak)

Any assassination animation will work (doesnít have to be a certain one)

Hopefully this helps and let me know if it works for you!

P.S. Please rate my YouTube video so other people can get directed to this video and help them before they spend pointless hours like myself and surely other people have had with this!

Subscribe if you want but I donít normally post videos up, only made this up because of my sheer frustration with this achievement and hopefully it can help other people. Donít really understand why people constantly ask to be subscribed anyway!
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:53 PM   #2
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Old 09-22-2010, 11:56 PM   #3
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Is that 'wooooooooooooooooooow' thanks for the help? or 'woooooooooooooooow' you're such a loser and shouldn't have bothered going into depth and helping people out? Because i'd rather not be mocked haha
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:00 AM   #4
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So the people who are having trouble getting it are too good at aiming. XD
Crap now I discovered I suck at this game...
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:05 AM   #5
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Haha no not at all just mis-timing I think more than anything. Hopefully this helps though to the people that are struggling with it!
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:23 AM   #6
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(in an attempt to keep this on the first page of forum so the copy posting goes away)

Probably easier when your drunk, that way ur aim is off, lol
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:31 AM   #7
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Haha I was close to giving this to my brother to try and get but realised if you are able to keep it on the elite then surely you will be able to aim just off of him and latch onto it within that split second. Hopefully it works for everyone and not just me although I have already had messages with people thanking me!
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:48 AM   #8
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Get "If They Came To Hear Me Beg" on Nightfall

I took a break from endless fall deaths and no achievement assassinations to look through the recommended files for any videos help with this. I saw a bunch of videos showing stuff that wasn't any different from what I had been doing. Then I saw one labeled for this achievement, but the level was on Nightfall. I watched the video and figured I'd give it a shot.

You have to do it on the legendary. The elite isn't there on any other difficulty. After you assassinate the first elite you see, if you look over the cliff you'll see an elite down below with the grunts. You'll need to head past the 2 sleeping grunts on you right and head up the walkway. I took a wide path around one grunt and assassinated the other, it'll depend on where they spawn. Once you get far enough up the walkway you'll hit and checkpoint. This is pretty much where you'll want to jump from. Wait for the elite to have his back facing you, then sprint and jump off the ledge. I got the achievement the very first time I got the assassination off. The ironic thing is, the fall isn't even far enough to kill you. Further proof that this achievement is pretty glitchy.
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Old 09-23-2010, 12:54 AM   #9
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I wish you had a video of this...hope this works.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:05 AM   #10
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I got this on the very last mission, where you start out on top of the cliff looking towards the Pillar of Autumn. There's an elite down next to some grunts. You gotta run and jump, and if you miss it you will die. I found it fairly easy though.

I have the video on my fileshare, gamertag; Speeedstar

Hope this helps for anyone still missing it.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:21 AM   #11
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if you also notice, its when people "steer" themselves or redirect the character behind the elite helps too, maybe thats because your crosshair will be off the elite...
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:25 AM   #12
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I wish you had a video of this...hope this works.
If you have Bungie Pro you can watch the video I watched here:
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Fi...px?fid=1868838

I found it through the game just by looking through most recommended. Credit for the video goes to PuNiToR sM. I'm glad he uploaded it, otherwise I'd still be jumping off that damn cliff in Pillar of Autumn.

Thanks for trying be helpful Speedstar 81, but I've guessing you've haven't seen any of the other numerous threads about this achievement. That's where everyone's been trying to get it. It's far to fickle about it there.
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Old 09-23-2010, 01:29 AM   #13
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I died a handfull of times due to the jackass moving out of the way but it no where near 100
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:05 AM   #14
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This strat kinda worked, but using this method

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...=1#post3536965

I overshot to get another hit box like you said, but it worked on this elite here.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:23 AM   #15
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LADIES AND GENTLEPEOPLES

THIS WORKS!






My fileshare vid is in the making to show you the jump that made it. Here's a few more pointers though
  • It is Legendary, Nightfall
  • Whip out your pistol
  • The Elite has a back and forth pattern in front of the sleeping grunts, but it's a pattern that NEVER shows his back.
  • Cancel the Sprint in the air.
  • OVER JUMP the Elite and spin around to face his back on your way down.
Honestly, it took me not more than ten minutes, roughly 7-8 tries.

6 minutes exactly.
Check my fileshare labeled

"Hear MAD Beg."

Here is the link to my fileshare
http://www.bungie.net/stats/reach/fileshare.aspx

The vid has my last 2 jumps to show you what didn't work and what did.

Thanks a bunch to The5thCylon.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:32 AM   #16
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:35 AM   #17
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I imagine the elite has multiple walking paths he can take, I just depends on which one the games loads when you do the level, just like the elite on Pillar of Autumn. When I did it, he did turn his back to me.
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Here is my file share vid (copy and paste the spaces in my name break the link)

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/Fi...524&player=The Dagda Mor


I tried over 50 times and had the curb stomp assassination multiple times but no achievement.
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Old 09-23-2010, 02:48 AM   #19
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Here are some screen caps.

I jump from that cliff in the background and turn myself over in midair.

This the Sprint cancelled. Check the distance- pretty far. He has his back to the sleeping grunts. The first five times I did it the animation was the head stomp. The last animation I triggered was the knifing.






Now really look at the distance. Crazy far, right? Well my Spartan extends his arm and the assassination animation begins.
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Or, you can save your self the trouble of reading this and do it on the elite in start of Pillar of Autumn


EDIT: just realized it was on this level, it's not as hard as your making it seem. Just run, jump and assassinate
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This one single post says so much about this damned achievement.

Christ I'll be glad when everybody finally unlocks this.
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Old 09-23-2010, 04:29 AM   #22
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My If They Came To Hear Me Beg guaranteed method

So I've been reading a lot of posts of people saying that they've been having problems getting the achievement at both Pillar of Autumn, and at Nightfall. People saying that the achievement is bugged having assassinated an elite hundreds of times without it popping.

Having already gotten the achievement myself without much problem, I decided to go and try the method I used to get the achievement on a second account to see if mine was just a fluke. After getting it a second time without any problems, I decided to upload a video guide on how I did it.


Using this method, I got the achievement on my first successful assassination both times. I even managed to get the achievement without dying once while making that video. (As you'll be able to see by the lack of any edits or cuts.) So I hope this video helps those people still having trouble with the achievement.
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Tried this after seeing it on Inside Xbox. Didn't work.
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This fall kills you on legendary regardless.... this method is basically the same. I dont see why changing the difficulty would resolve the problem that others have noted.... Got it on my first try using the method posted in the guide.
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This fall kills you on legendary regardless.... this method is basically the same. I dont see why changing the difficulty would resolve the problem that others have noted.... Got it on my first try using the method posted in the guide.
Even though the fall kills you, the game still doesn't seem to think that it's sufficient for some reason. By removing your shields, and lowering your health, you can fall a much shorter distance and have it be fatal, and it seems to give the little extra edge needed for the achievement. So I'm not sure why you're talking about difficulty when I did this achievement on Normal with this method twice.
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i think its just based on luck/skills
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The only reason I brought difficulty up, was because I wasn't sure if it affected fall damage. My point is that there is no evidence to suggest lowering shields/health affects the chievo at all.

Thafireman tried and it didn't work. The only way you could even validate if this works is to kill yourself with lowered shields/health and then repeat the assassination on a shorter fall distance.

Until then, call me a skeptic.
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The only reason I brought difficulty up, was because I wasn't sure if it affected fall damage. My point is that there is no evidence to suggest lowering shields/health affects the chievo at all.

Thafireman tried and it didn't work. The only way you could even validate if this works is to kill yourself with lowered shields/health and then repeat the assassination on a shorter fall distance.

Until then, call me a skeptic.
Lowering your shields/health doesn't affect the achievement directly. It just makes it much easier to die from shorter distances, which I think is the main reason this achievement is so twitchy.
I also tried getting this achievement on that cliff like everyone else, and assassinated the elite like 20 times with no achievement. Only once I used this method did I get it instantly upon my first successful assassination. And Like I said, I even got it on my very first try without even retrying a single time when I made this video, so I don't think that can be coincidence.

And I also watched Inside Xbox's video guide for this achievement, and they have nothing in there about using Black Eye or lowering your shields. So I'm assuming Thafireman didn't watch the whole video, and just assumed it was the same Pillar of Autumn strategy that's already been suggested by every achievement guide out there.
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This fall kills you on legendary regardless.... this method is basically the same. I dont see why changing the difficulty would resolve the problem that others have noted.... Got it on my first try using the method posted in the guide.

This is not true. I initially tried for this achievement while going through the campaign on solo Legendary and survived many, many falls. The whole achievement is just glitchy, but not hard to get technically. Changing the difficulty also doesn't make a difference OP... I have done lots of assassinations in Legendary and Normal with no pop up for either.
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believe it or not, got it in the first try of this method in legendary, 2 blocks hp left when i jump
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