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Old 01-21-2011, 11:48 AM   #31
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Here's a twitter reply I've recently received:

"@babarogatweet @stevivor @Krazie_x360a @segacon We're looking into it, please stay tuned!"

http://twitter.com/#!/babarogatweet/...71281462382592
finallyyyyyyyyyyyyy
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Old 01-21-2011, 10:18 PM   #32
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I have managed to get this achievement. I just kept trying and eventually I managed to get the required rolls. I was playing in survival horror mode (not sure if that makes a difference).
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Old 01-22-2011, 03:06 AM   #33
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Considering you "lost count"...

I know I had 74 attempts. The chances are STILL 6.25% of getting a 4th negative die roll. It doesn't change because you attempted it more times.

"After 3 misses you will ALWAYS roll a 4,5, or 6.

The odds of this are occurring are: .0000000298" <- That is not correct.

2*2*2*2=16 The probability of 4 negatives is 1/16 = 6.25%

".0000000298% is the chance for 25 sequential successes with out a single failure" <-- This isn't either. You have 2 too many zeros.

2^25 = 33554432 so the probability for 25 sequential successes is 1/33554432 = .00000298%

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I think I know what you were trying to say but worded it poorly.

The chances of 25 sequential successes is stated above, but the chance to go into a single attempt of 4 negatives in a row is still 6.25%. You cannot just pluck that 4th die roll out of the equation, slap on that you did it 25 times and call it a true calculation of your attempts.

Each and every time you throw the die there is still a 50/50 chance. Throwing out all the other die rolls is not correct. I can also turn it around and say in actuality you threw 100 die rolls and 25 of them were positive. So it was actually 25% of the time you threw positive. The probability of 25/25 is again stated above but you aren't throwing 25, you were throwing 100.
What sucks is that none of those odds really matter if all of the rolls are predetermined, like others are saying...
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:14 PM   #34
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I have managed to get this achievement. I just kept trying and eventually I managed to get the required rolls. I was playing in survival horror mode (not sure if that makes a difference).
do you remember how many hearts and bullets you had?
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Old 01-22-2011, 01:43 PM   #35
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do you remember how many hearts and bullets you had?
Nope I don't remember. I didn't realise there were any issues surrounding this achievement at the time, so I wasn't paying particular attention to exactly how I did it.

The only other thing I can think of is that I was on a train when it unlocked, so I might have been disconnected from XBL. It's a longshot that this might make a difference, but I can't think of anything else I have done differently to what you guys are trying.
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Old 01-22-2011, 02:14 PM   #36
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thank you for the information
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Old 01-25-2011, 04:29 PM   #37
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at last i have this at the 2nd attempt, 1st one did not unlock achievment.
i was in the hospital for 30 mins just facing zombies in generated town with 2 human players. i had 4 hearts and lost 3 and used bullets on the last one.

each time i lost 3 hearts and on the last one and i would get a 4+ i would quit the game and load the save game again, instead of fighting the zombie again i would skip my turn. i did this over and over till i got the achievement
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Old 01-27-2011, 07:02 PM   #38
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Does this mean they've finally sorted out the predetermined die rolls?

Might have to have another bash at work tonight.
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Old 01-29-2011, 03:09 PM   #39
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at last i have this at the 2nd attempt, 1st one did not unlock achievment.
i was in the hospital for 30 mins just facing zombies in generated town with 2 human players. i had 4 hearts and lost 3 and used bullets on the last one.

each time i lost 3 hearts and on the last one and i would get a 4+ i would quit the game and load the save game again, instead of fighting the zombie again i would skip my turn. i did this over and over till i got the achievement
how did you quit and load your save. when i quit it doesnt go back to where i saved.
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Old 01-29-2011, 09:00 PM   #40
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how did you quit and load your save. when i quit it doesnt go back to where i saved.
You put your phone on stand-by (turn the screen off), or hit the Windows button to go back to the main menu and when your boot up the game it will be back at the very beginning of your turn again.
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Old 01-30-2011, 02:41 PM   #41
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You put your phone on stand-by (turn the screen off), or hit the Windows button to go back to the main menu and when your boot up the game it will be back at the very beginning of your turn again.
when i do both it doesnt work. ive been pulling my battery but thats getting annoying. i have the focus.
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:14 PM   #42
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I've tried the 2-player fight/fail/reload/skip turn/re-fight method for almost 100 rounds no. No go. Is anyone else seeing this working for them? do you need to be offline (ie: no wifi, no data signal) for some reason?

Or have we heard any more back from the company about this cheevo?
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Old 02-11-2011, 04:18 AM   #43
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Good news! The devs have confirmed to me that this Achievement will be made easier to get in an update. No ETA, so my advice is to move on to another game and come back when it's fixed.
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Old 02-11-2011, 05:02 PM   #44
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Hey Guys, I had some troubles too with this achievement, but I finaly had got it !

I just followed this guide :

http://www.trueachievements.com/a788...chievement.htm

It took me maybe 2 or 3 hours to get it.

Before going in the hospital, I had 5 hearts, the medikit already in game, the card "the keys are still in it" and 3 bullets.

You HAVE to play "The keys are still in it" before your turn, because I think that without it, the achievement is IMPOSSIBLE, or you may be VERY lucky !
This card add a roll to the dice. For exemple, If you play without it and you roll a 1, a 2 and finally a 6, you have done 3 rolls. But if you have played the card, you will roll a 1, a number between 1 and 3, a 2 and finaly a 6. That makes 4 rolls instead of 3.

Good Luck if you try it, have fun !

(Sorry if my English is bad, I'm French)
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Old 04-25-2011, 03:17 AM   #45
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Been working on this for a while using the attempt/reload/skip/attempt cycle and am seeing no progress. Have tried the "The keys are still in it" methode as well without progress. Anyone able to confirm it's working fine? or have a timeframe on the game update?
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Old 04-25-2011, 01:18 PM   #46
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Good news! The devs have confirmed to me that this Achievement will be made easier to get in an update. No ETA, so my advice is to move on to another game and come back when it's fixed.

If that is done wouldn't that make the game overall harder? lol
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Old 05-20-2011, 08:32 PM   #47
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This achievement is doing my head in. It is as bad as roll 3 double sizes in monopoly wp7. played that for 36 hrs trying until I gave up.
OT: For Monopoly, if you get a doubles, roll again. If you don't get a doubles hit the windows button before your piece starts to move, then resume the game and you can try that 2nd roll again. When you get 2 doubles, repeat for the 3rd. It should take you like 10 minutes.
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Old 05-29-2011, 06:59 AM   #48
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Has there been any update to this, been going at this for a couple hours and still no dice, no pun intended. Anyone who has gotten this have any extra info to add to try to help other people figure it out?
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The update is still coming.

I recently interviewed the developers about that and other topics. We'll run the article on WPCentral soon.
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Old 06-20-2011, 05:02 AM   #50
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I recently included Zombies!!! in my article on Broken Achievements in Windows Phone games. We received several comments claiming that the Achievement is not broken and is reasonably attainable, though due to my personal experience I'm keeping it in the article.

As for the Babaroga interview detailing the upcoming patch, the dev has been late in getting back to me. I'll update when the interview runs.
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Old 06-26-2011, 04:19 AM   #52
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The Babaroga interview is live!

Developer Interview: Babaroga, makers of Zombies!!!

Unfortunately they don't go into specifics about how the Achievement will be easier to get, but it's still got some great info about the update they're working on.
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Old 07-12-2011, 11:18 AM   #53
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Spent around 6+ hours trying the method posted above and finally got this achievement. Figures I'd get it 5 minutes after I posted I couldn't. LOL

Anyway, I had 5 hearts, 13 Bullets, One Health Card to play and used Keys are Still in It at the Hospital. Got the achievement on my 7th zombie kill of the turn.

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Old 09-14-2011, 04:05 AM   #54
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I'm totes confused here, the achievement description says....



Was it worth it?

Use 2 or more Hearts in a single combat, then win by using Bullets.


So that would mean rolling a 1,2, or 3 three times in a row, correct? Yet reading this thread everyone is making it sound like you have to do it FOUR times in a row? Am I just being daft and missing something here?

Update: Nevermind, the actual game menu says it's three hearts, but Xbox.com and TrueAchievements both say two. How odd.

The TA link above works great though, got the achievement on Round 21!
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Hey! It looks like the update that fixes the game has gone live. BUT... Read the article! And stop acting like you don't know how to comment on the article, darn you.

Zombies!!! Mango update unleashed
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:19 PM   #56
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Thanks for the update EastX! Looking forward to the Mango update already so this is just one more reason

Glad to see that the Devs didn't just toss it on the shelf and forget about it as well. Kudos to them.
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Hey just wanted to thro in my 2 cents.. I was trying the trial version of this and the first achievement I got was OVERKILL. and the second one was WAS IT WORTH IT? I didn't know there was this problem before I bought it I just liked the game, but I don't remember anything on how I unlocked it.... which ultimatly means I don't know if I was just one of the lucky ones or it was infact patched and made easier.
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Hey just wanted to thro in my 2 cents.. I was trying the trial version of this and the first achievement I got was OVERKILL. and the second one was WAS IT WORTH IT? I didn't know there was this problem before I bought it I just liked the game, but I don't remember anything on how I unlocked it.... which ultimatly means I don't know if I was just one of the lucky ones or it was infact patched and made easier.
I just bought the game, and these were the first 2 achievements I got as well. I guess I got lucky, since I didn't realize it was that hard. I had only 2 bullets, and 4 hearts when I got it.
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Just chiming in to confirm that it might have been patched, or I'm incredibly (un?)lucky, because that was my first achievement.

I lost three hearts and had to use bullets on fourth roll =/
At least got the achievement right away, didn't have to actively seek it at all.
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