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Old 07-03-2007, 04:19 AM   #31
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does the last guy on vinnies list appear even after i chased shrote and after the second helicopter fight?
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I can't find this guy. Does anyone have a picture of where I can locate him? And do I have to do any certain part of the story for him to appear? If this is the hobo in the bathrooms at the beginning of the game, I killed him is that a problem?
yes it is him, yes it is a problem. only way to fix it is to play the entire game again from chapter 1.
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for that complete in tune with the darkness do you have to do special things or do you just acquire it because i'm getting owned in recieving gamerscore in this game so i went back to shadowrun
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for that complete in tune with the darkness do you have to do special things or do you just acquire it because i'm getting owned in recieving gamerscore in this game so i went back to shadowrun
you have to kill "X" number enemies with each darkness power. you can look in your in-game achievement list under options to see you % is each power under that darkness master achievement. basicly start killing more enemies with the ones your short on. enjoy
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Good guide, really helps!
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does the last guy on vinnies list appear even after i chased shrote and after the second helicopter fight?
Wondering same thing, couldn't find him before I chased Shrote and can't find him after.

The Building to my right has no openings. Any got a screenshot or suttin to give a better reference then the instructions? They aren't working for me.
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the last guy by the cemetry.. my creeping dark doesnt reach the insulin.. it go's back with in 3 feet or something. how the hell did anyone pulled this of?
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make sure you destroy all the lights outside the cemetery so you don't loose any darkness power and you'll make it fine
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dude.. come on over and do this for me ! haha what the hell am i doing wrong!!! i busted every light there POSSIBLE is..when i make the last corner .. my creeping shit go back to me.!! i am stand closest to the toilet ( left from the hobo).. plz men.. what the hell is this?!?!?!
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i don't know dude, thats odd. when i did it i got stuck on one of the walls in the bathroom and had to twist around to get loose and i still had plenty of time. your standing in the correct spot so i really don't understand why it's pulling you back so soon.
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Did it to me too, try moving around.. make sure the area Jackie is in isn't lit up either. Maybe even go in through the vent hole thing at the bottom to the side of the stairs into the toilets?
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does the last guy on vinnies list appear even after i chased shrote and after the second helicopter fight?
Yes u can. If u need help finding him just refer to the guides on the site.
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Part 1

- Go back to Mortarello, who will tell you your next hit is a guy at Grinder's. He's got a few cops with TMPs around him, but I found that impaling him with the demon arm and dragging him off worked well, if you do it quickly.
for some reason there is no one in grinders lane but 2 innocents that dont bother me i see no cops or anything like that where exactly should they be??
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i found shrotes guy

look for the building with the graffiti sign that says "mace" look up a little bit and you will see a little opening use your creeping dark to kill him

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Very nice guide thanks for all the help!! I am glad that I checked here about that bum in chapter 1 because I would have killed him for sure lol...
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i swear to God these windows are boarded up and closed. im 99.9% sure i know exactly the building and story and windows.. there is an ac between two of them. and when i roll over em with creeping dark the glitch a little like youre supposed to go in to em but cant...im so pissed. i have killed eddie shrotte already but i cant find the last guy on the hit list. i have seriously gone over every window in gun hill. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I CAN COMPLETE THIS.

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PERTAINING TO PREVIOUS POST> ok so i did kill him and i was right about the windows but heres what i did to do it. the window was boarded up and unable to get into it... i was already assigned the mission to kill this guy just so you know. i went back to fulton station. i went and stood in front of vinny and he just stared at me, so i started jumpin around and movin in and out at him and he started talking. he reassigned the mission to me and it said objective updated like i got a new mission or something. I am 100% sure i was already assigned the mission before this. but then went back to the window and it was now opened. so anyone with the same problem as me, hope this helps.
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For the Heart of Gold achievement, you'll need to (for the most part) help people out in the subway. At different parts/chapters (if chapters is more appropriate than parts, someone correct me), you will get different side quests.

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Part 1

George Handel - The harmonica player on the stairs to Chinatown, in Canal Street. Basically, some guy called Compton Scarr doesn't like his music. Accept, tell him you'll sort it and go back down the stairs where Scarr should be. Simple enough, tell him to let George play. Go back up and you'll get a collectible from George.

Ingrid Pulankski - Ageing woman at Fulton, on the side that the train comes in on. She will want you to find her bracelet for her. I think its the exact same place in each game, but it can take some finding. Jump onto the tracks (be careful you don't get hit, it may take a few examinations to find) and run around near to the platform's edge till you see the message at the bottom telling you to pick it up. Go back to her for another collectible.

Charlane Warburton - woman who, oddly, wants to see you pick up four coins from the tracks. She is at Canal Street on the side that there is apparently no incoming trains. However, this may take a few attempts. If you don't get all four on your first try, go back to her and do it again. You have to get them all in one go. I found it helpful to just bash away at "A" just before she threw them, and then run onto the tracks as shes throwing them. I managed to usually catch one or two before they hit the rails. Go back to her and you will get another collectible.

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After you get chucked off the train, walk to the end of the platform (to the end that the train enters from, someone tell me if its not the platform you get chucked off onto) Dana Cutrone wants you to get her key back to her appartment from her boyfriend. Go to Chinatown, go straight down the street, down the alley in front of you and turn right. Fumble around inside that building and you'll find Dana's crib.

Jimmy the Grape will be kind of amazed that you're alive. Speak to him again and he will want you to whack a potential grass. Go to Grinder's and turn left twice. Inside you'll know where to go; the door with the goons outside. Taken them out how you will, a further two more inside and the snivelling wreck will be inside. You know what to do. Return the list to the Grape to net another collectable.

Back in Fulton, you should see Vinny Mortarello. He wants you to take out a few people.
- First up is a guy hanging around your Aunt Sarah's in Eastside. Go there and its behind (and to the right of) the exit of the subway. He will be by a lamppost at the end of the street, go take care of him. As you go back to the subway, a car will come down the street.
- Go back to Mortarello, who will tell you your next hit is a guy at Grinder's. He's got a few cops with TMPs around him, but I found that impaling him with the demon arm and dragging him off worked well, if you do it quickly.
- Back to Vinny, who will tell you the third one is back near your Aunt Sarah's. Go back there and go to behind and to the left of where you exit the subway. You can't miss it - its the car making noise. Silence the gang and go back to Mortarello.
- Fourth is in Chinatown. Exit the subway, go forward and left down an alleyway (between Orchid and Plum). Kill that scummy dealer and return to Vinny.
- Now this final one has seemed to be problematic to some people. You have to kill some guy that is watching Eddie over at Gun Hill. Some say they have killed Eddie and they can't access this guy therefore. I am not sure if this is true or not, some have said its not. Either way, hes not in the same building. Just before you go under and into the building that you need to enter to take the elevator, look to your right and there should be an open window a small way up. Use your creeping arm to enter and mutilate the guy. Return to Vinny for another collectible.


Go back to Handel and it will turn out that Scarr jacked his harmonica. Scarr is over in Lower Eastside with two other guys, as if you were going to Whitefish (the long way round). Don't worry, he won't talk.. just attack on sight. So get the hits in first and take Handel's Harmonica back to him. Before you do this though, you may wish to speak to..

Terence Willis. He will be sitting on a box at the train's entrance end of the platform at Canal Street. He wants you to wipe out some people over at Whitefish. You know what to do... come back and his reward is to help you with..

Lucas Hellinger (round the corner). You cant win the game without Terence's help. Talk to Terence who will then tell you to distract him and chalk a cup. Select "Distract" when you talk to Lucas and then simply choose the marked cup when he asks you where the ball is under. Simple.

Over at Fulton, a guy called Mitch Duval is hanging out by the locked gate at the end of the platform, train-side. Just go through the tunnels after talking to him, as if you were going to the Turkish baths to snatch the case. His brother can't be talked to, hes lost it. Beware of the traps on the way and kill him (Use creeping dark to destroy the power going into the water, demon arm to disarm all the chain-traps along the way, the arm again to pull a box over the grate by the door with chains in front of it and creeping arm again to open the locked door from the grate overhead.) Smash the padlocks to either side of the center door by Deval and use one of the crates to hop up on top (use the arm to get it in place). Then just use the black hole to open the blocking exit. On your way back, talk to his brother who gives you another collectible.

Back in the WWI village, on your way back to the trenches, you will go back down a ladder and out of some short sewer system. This is nowhere obscure but its easy to miss the guy since theres a lot of tommies that look the same. Anyway this one is Charlie Hazelgrove, who wants you to give a message to Rose over in Fulton Street station. You can't finish this till after you're back, but this is the last time you'll be in the village so do it now.

Part 3

Find Rose for another collectible over in Fulton Street station (should be around the area Vinny is/was in). For the whole game she remains asleep there until you wake her.


Little Petey is also in Fulton Street. Go find him around and deliver a letter to Mickey Famiano (by a vending machine in a dark red hat) over at Canal Street. Receipt of the letter gives you another collectible.

Go back to Canal Street and up the stairs towards Trinity Church. Enzo wants you to switch cases with Frankie "Noses" Tieri on the platform by an information booth. Take the case, go find Noses, switch them and go back for your collectible.

Alfred Blackmoore is near the exit to Chinatown. Turns out that Dana is wanted out of her house - seems a bit harsh since you just helped her back in. Anyway, kick her out and go back for your collectible.

Finally, go back to Trinity Cemetary and talk to the hobo, Frank Rottenberg, there. He got kicked out after the cops went in. Just get your creeper arm and go inside the toilets. The insulin is on the table by his bed. There you have it! 100%!

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PART 1, if i didnt miss it, i dont think you have chen in there. the first time you visit jenny and leave. head towards the entrance. after you exit the apartment building, you walk straight out towards the street. 2 men are chasing after a guy and you have to kill both of them then explain the situation to the guy they were chasing (chen). he gives you a number and it is considered part of this achievement. i missed this one the first time through the game and failed to get the achievement because of it. i went back to just that part after i beat the game and now i find out i gotta do the whole game again. pissed. i did do every other one though. but still.. frustrating
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PART 1, if i didnt miss it, i dont think you have chen in there. the first time you visit jenny and leave. head towards the entrance. after you exit the apartment building, you walk straight out towards the street. 2 men are chasing after a guy and you have to kill both of them then explain the situation to the guy they were chasing (chen). he gives you a number and it is considered part of this achievement. i missed this one the first time through the game and failed to get the achievement because of it. i went back to just that part after i beat the game and now i find out i gotta do the whole game again. pissed. i did do every other one though. but still.. frustrating
if you only missed chen then you only have to do chen, not the entire game
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Wondering same thing, couldn't find him before I chased Shrote and can't find him after.

The Building to my right has no openings. Any got a screenshot or suttin to give a better reference then the instructions? They aren't working for me.
i just went back and killed this guy, well after taking care of Shrote. right before you head down to the area where you can take the elevator in Shrote's building, facing that area, look up and to the right. i had to take out a few lights to be sure, but there is def. an open window. use creeping arm to take the guy out (he's watching a few monitors hooked up to security cameras) and grab the darkling outfit to his right.

if you're in Shrote's building, you've gone too far. back out of the building, up the steps, and then look up to your left (if you're facing away from Shrote's building).
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so i completed everything for this achievement except for the one in WWI (missed that one). how does this work with loading checkpoints? i can load a WWI checkpoint after i finish the game, complete the Rosie task, and i get this achievement? hope so. thanks for any info.
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Great guide, helped me get that achievment
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so i completed everything for this achievement except for the one in WWI (missed that one). how does this work with loading checkpoints? i can load a WWI checkpoint after i finish the game, complete the Rosie task, and i get this achievement? hope so. thanks for any info.
yes you can.
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i m going crazy! i m at 93%. i did everything in the guide. the problem is that i did what jimmy the grape asked me i killed everybody and i got the list. now i go to jimmy he is happy that i silenced the rat but he wont thake the list!!!! i have it always in my inventory and when i talk to him he says to go away?WTF???
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Same thing happened to me, Jimmy didn't take the list!
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i m going crazy! i m at 93%. i did everything in the guide. the problem is that i did what jimmy the grape asked me i killed everybody and i got the list. now i go to jimmy he is happy that i silenced the rat but he wont thake the list!!!! i have it always in my inventory and when i talk to him he says to go away?WTF???
I had a problem with the side missions also. I did all of them with no help but thought there was one more bc it said i was still a 93% and i spent hours going up to every person over and over. Anyways i just gave up and started my next game, turns out it was a mission that i had already done but i guess it just didnt unlock. That was some BS.

But just reload that checkpoint and redo the mission. Since it keeps track of the ones completed that is the only one you need to do, shouldn't take more than a few.
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Hey,

I've done all the side missions exept one. Charlie Hazelgrove (in WW2 place). I forgot to help him so the game saved when I went down the ladder. Now I cant get back and help him, or can I? Can I choose which checkpoint I want to reload? I want the "Heart of Gold" achievement without restart the whole story

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Your going to have to redo all of chapter 4, even though its in the beginning i believe you have to talk to him and finsh the chapter. Then when in chapter 5 you can finish the heart of gold achievement.
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