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Old 06-11-2013, 07:44 AM   #1
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This game will be freemium

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/06/...ne-launch-game

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Killer Instinct is a day-one digital-only release on Xbox One, and features -- get this -- one character. Jago is free to play on launch day. Everyone else -- unspecified returning characters as well as original fighters -- will cost money. Price is to-be-determined (of course).

Is this the start of a new trend? With Xbox Live Arcade vanishing into the greater Games Marketplace, perhaps free-to-play is the new trial version, and you'll nickel and dime your way to a more complete version. Hopefully trials of some sort will still mandated so players can try out everything as it hits Xbox Live.

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There's been a lot of confusion to this game being a day one free to play game with only one character then having to pay for the rest.

Thankfully that's all been cleared up now, the game will launch as a full retail game with every character in it and also as free to play demo with Jago.

http://shoryuken.com/2013/06/11/kill...ree-character/
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Old 06-11-2013, 08:17 AM   #2
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Ugghhh... I knew it was too good to be true. Well, I won't be buying an Xbox One anyways, so at least I won't feel like I'm missing out on anything!!
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Lol this is being made by the fine chaps who made unique titles such as Battleship, GI Joe and Silent Hill Homecoming.

I'm betting it'll suck.
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Lol this is being made by the fine chaps who made unique titles such as Battleship, GI Joe and Silent Hill Homecoming.

I'm betting it'll suck.
Ouch. To be fair, they do like their combat!

I'm sensing free-to-play with a shit ton of micro-transactions. I'm a bigger fan of demos/trials and full game buying than limited free-to-play and micro-transactions, so I hope I'm wrong...
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Old 06-11-2013, 12:36 PM   #5
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Ah, thanks for raping my childhood, Microsoft. You are slowly creeping past Hollywood!

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The producer on the game at Microsoft Studios told Eurogamer at an event at E3 last night that the company decided to use this release strategy because when it comes to fighting games, most players only focus on a handful of characters.


"It's really impressive to have a roster of 50 characters, but how many of those characters am I really going to play?" the producer said. "And I have to buy a $60 game in order to play those one or two characters I want to play.


"Fighting games are big and expensive and they can be complicated. It's very hard to get good at a number of characters. You generally gravitate towards one or two or three or four at the most.


"We want players to be able to experience the game that way. Just buy the characters you want or buy them all and we'll give you a discount on that."


The producer said Microsoft hadn't decided how many characters would eventually be made available, but did confirm plans to release them over time, establishing a regular cadence to "keep people coming back and engaged".
What a poor fucking excuse. They imply that because I only use a Mazda in Forza games, only one manufacturer should be available and all others should be purchasable.

Fucking idiots!

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...business-model
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Ah, thanks for raping my childhood, Microsoft. You are slowly creeping past Hollywood!


What a poor fucking excuse. They imply that because I only use a Mazda in Forza games, only one manufacturer should be available and all others should be purchasable.

Fucking idiots!

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...business-model
It makes complete sense. I don't see your problem.
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Ah, thanks for raping my childhood, Microsoft. You are slowly creeping past Hollywood!


What a poor fucking excuse. They imply that because I only use a Mazda in Forza games, only one manufacturer should be available and all others should be purchasable.

Fucking idiots!

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/20...business-model
LOL so let me get this straight, because we will most likely use one character you limit us to a character which YOU feel we will use. Would've been a better plan if it wasn't just ONE character! It's going to be so fun fighting Jargo with Jargo, come on man.
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"It's really impressive to have a roster of 50 characters, but how many of those characters am I really going to play?" the producer said. "And I have to buy a $60 game in order to play those one or two characters I want to play.

"Fighting games are big and expensive and they can be complicated. It's very hard to get good at a number of characters. You generally gravitate towards one or two or three or four at the most.


"We want players to be able to experience the game that way. Just buy the characters you want or buy them all and we'll give you a discount on that."


The producer said Microsoft hadn't decided how many characters would eventually be made available, but did confirm plans to release them over time, establishing a regular cadence to "keep people coming back and engaged".
It's not a terrible idea. But it's not a good one either. Especially since the words free-to-play were being thrown around. Depends on the prices involved. You will focus on 2 or 3 to start with but eventually you're going to want to play more. I assume we'd have a trial run of said characters. Watching a video to find out If I'll like someone isn't really gonna work. I need to actually play with the character. Wonder what sort of discount it'll be for buying them all in one go. I would really rather just be able to you know. Buy the game. Normally. With a full roster...
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It makes complete sense. I don't see your problem.
of course you dont..
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It sounded way to good and exciting to be true. Hopefully this isn't the new trend of things to come.
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Old 06-11-2013, 05:59 PM   #11
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That's a massive clanger by the producer.
So now in order to learn i don't like a character i will have to pay to find out? If any character is overpowered or easy to spam (which happens in most fighting games) then expect to play nobody else online.
Terrible idea and even worse logic to explain the decision.
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urgh! Why are they doing this?
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of course you dont..
What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
You can still buy all the characters, or if you want one or two you can buy them. It is personal preference.
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I don't see much of a problem with this although this isn't a solution for every game.

Lets say they only release 13 characters at launch and they're $5 (assuming it costs that) each? That's $60 if you buy them each separately or even cheaper if you buy the bundle (which I knew they would do).
Aside from that you get the full game minus the characters from the get go and if you want you can try out one character per week on the cheap.

About the dev, Homecoming was decent and Front Mission was okay I've heard.
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LOL so let me get this straight, because we will most likely use one character you limit us to a character which YOU feel we will use. Would've been a better plan if it wasn't just ONE character! It's going to be so fun fighting Jargo with Jargo, come on man.
Why do you keep calling Jago, Jargo?
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While we're bashing Microsoft for killing Killer Instinct before anyone even gets to play it on their consoles in November...

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Available in limited quantities at select retailers while supplies last. Includes Shadow Jago character for Killer Instinct (CTC), for use only with Xbox One; both expected to be released in November 2013. Additional Killer Instinct characters sold separately; requires 4 GB storage, for download only on Xbox One. Shadow Jago available exclusively with Day One 12-month Xbox Live Gold until February 1, 2014; may be available elsewhere later.
Exclusive content. /facepalm

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What the fuck is that supposed to mean?
You can still buy all the characters, or if you want one or two you can buy them. It is personal preference.
We'll see what you have to say to it if you invest in it and then never get to fight any other character online besides Jago.
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We'll see what you have to say to it if you invest in it and then never get to fight any other character online besides Jago.
He'll be okay with that too, because you know, #dealwithit.
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He'll be okay with that too, because you know, #dealwithit.
heh

Even if I sunk $60 into the freemium content of a title, I'd expect a little variety. Fighting the same opponent over and over gets boring. Anyone that doesn't believe me, just go play SFIITurboHDRemix on Ranked. Ryu, Ryu, Ryu, Ryu

I back out and don't touch it again for a few months.
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heh

Even if I sunk $60 into the freemium content of a title, I'd expect a little variety.
Dudette, get with the program!

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...3&postcount=16

YOU GET TO PLAY AS OR AGAINST SHADOW JAGO! TWO CHARACTERS ARE BETTER THAN ONE!
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Dudette, get with the program!

http://www.xbox360achievements.org/f...3&postcount=16

YOU GET TO PLAY AS OR AGAINST SHADOW JAGO! TWO CHARACTERS ARE BETTER THAN ONE!
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WHEN I ADDED DARK SPYRO TO MY SKYLANDERS PLAYTHROUGHS IT MADE IT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE

ALL HAIL SHADOW
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heh

Even if I sunk $60 into the freemium content of a title, I'd expect a little variety. Fighting the same opponent over and over gets boring. Anyone that doesn't believe me, just go play SFIITurboHDRemix on Ranked. Ryu, Ryu, Ryu, Ryu

I back out and don't touch it again for a few months.
That's just a problem with fighting games in general.
In all the Street Fighters where you do have actual rosters from the start all you see online is as you said Ryu, Ryu, Ryu, Ken, Ryu, Ken, Sagat, insert wildcard, Ryu, Akuma, Ken, Ryu...
I see no difference from Jago, Jago, Jago, Orchid, Jago, Cinder, Orchid, Jago, Jago, Fulgore, Jago, Cinder, Sabrewulf, Jago, Orchid, Jago...
The free users will die out quickly and the good/scrubby players will buy the best characters/whoever they like.

It's actually cool because devs can't really get good results of who is using what characters but in this case they can see which characters are getting bought. No one buying Thunder? About time he gets a buff.
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Wouldn't be that hard to find a character better than Jago and purchase them.
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Its going to interesting to see how many achievements are tied to specific characters now, if there isnt much then effectively you will be spending alot less than full retail price if it doesnt bother you that much that all the chars arent available (which I dont mind)
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Its going to interesting to see how many achievements are tied to specific characters now, if there isnt much then effectively you will be spending alot less than full retail price if it doesnt bother you that much that all the chars arent available (which I dont mind)
I didn't even think of that... To get all of the achievements you would need to purchase all characters. Betting a couple are based on how many characters you have.
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What if NRS did this with MK, Scorpion only, want sub zero? 3 dollars please.
but this seems like something that Capcom would do heres Ryu want mega man? 4 bucks please.
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Yeah, they wouldn't be able to put them all on the disc and have you pay a price to simply unlock them because there is no disc for the game. In fact, they would of loved it more since it is downloadable, the profit would be bigger.
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Yeah, they wouldn't be able to put them all on the disc and have you pay a price to simply unlock them because there is no disc for the game. In fact, they would of loved it more since it is downloadable, the profit would be bigger.
it wouldn't matter because in 3 months there'll be an "ultimate edition" anyway
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There's been a lot of confusion to this game being a day one free to play game with only one character then having to pay for the rest.

Thankfully that's all been cleared up now, the game will launch as a full retail game with every character in it and also as free to play demo with Jago.

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