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Old 01-31-2012, 11:10 PM   #1
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No Co-Op? No sale!

I was so hyped for this game, played it a few months back at GameFest and me and my 3 friends all thought how awesome it would be to team up and slay majestic beasts as a group, but no. Once again Capcom just lets me down, just like with the poor HD addition to DMC, the lack of Monster Hunter in the west and the cancellation of MegaMan Legends 3.

This is made even more disappointing by the fact that they make really good Co-Op games (Monster Hunter, Lost Planet 2). I should just stop expecting so much from them i guess.

That being said i will probably pick this up for 15 pre-owned as i still looks like a good game, just don't feel the hype that i did when i thought it would be Co-Op.
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Old 02-25-2012, 04:14 PM   #2
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Old 03-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #3
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I'll just be playing the Resident Evil 6 demo over here
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Old 04-06-2012, 06:11 PM   #4
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No Co-op? Awesome! Definately picking this game up now. At least I know now that I will have a game made and designed for an awesome single player campaign experience and not tailored or balanced for a co-op experience that would proabably of been thrown in as a last ditch effort to satisfy others.
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I'm the opposite entirely. If this had co-op id wait till it was cheap but as a single player game ill pick it up day one. Games like this never seem to balance right in co-op. I think for them to work they need to have a dedicated team behind them that has a clear end goal, not jst a last minute addition.
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Old 04-07-2012, 11:13 AM   #6
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Co-op would have been a good addition but to say you won't buy it just because it hasn't got it is insane.
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Old 04-09-2012, 10:28 AM   #7
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Im not really bothered about co-op but i do agree that we need a monster hunter
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Old 04-12-2012, 01:50 PM   #8
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Iv only played one of the Monster Hunter games and i remember it being pretty difficult. I welcome any game that's more challenging than the stuff that's around at the moment.
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Old 04-12-2012, 04:48 PM   #9
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Co-op would be nice...but it was silly of you to assume it would have Co-op when you had no proof that they were even thinking about putting it in the game.
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Old 04-17-2012, 11:50 PM   #10
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To be completely honest, I'm pretty bummed about the Coop exclusion myself. (Probably gonna wait a few months before I buy it now.)

Oh and, I don't think the Resi 6 beta justifies $45+; but hey it's your money... not mine. ;D
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No Coop? fucking sweet. I prefer single player RPGs
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The lack of co-op is just laziness on Capcom's behalf. You have two companions with you AT ALL TIMES. More likely though, Capcom is just waiting to nickel and dime us with co-op DLC.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:22 PM   #13
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Co-op in this game would make a lot of sense. All they would have to do is sub out your customer created follower with a friend and boom, there is all your balance issues resolved. I dunno though, the game still looks cool to play alone too.
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:38 PM   #14
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Co-op in this game would make a lot of sense. All they would have to do is sub out your customer created follower with a friend and boom, there is all your balance issues resolved. I dunno though, the game still looks cool to play alone too.

The truth is an AI teammate does NOT equal a real player. If the game is set up for AI teammates, adding real players to your team will make the game far too easy....and setting the difficulty for a team of 3 or 4 real players would make it frustratingly difficult when you're alone and using AI partners.

A game like this designed from the ground up for co-op would be great though...assuming you always have someone around to play with.
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Old 04-27-2012, 09:34 PM   #15
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No Co-op? Awesome! Definately picking this game up now. At least I know now that I will have a game made and designed for an awesome single player campaign experience and not tailored or balanced for a co-op experience that would proabably of been thrown in as a last ditch effort to satisfy others.
Finally. Yes!! I agree! Enough with friggin' multiplayer and co-op already! I can count on 2 hands how many multiplayer games are still supported and people PLAY on the 360, and about the same goes for co-op. Quit taking up disc space for co-op and multiplayer and give me an AWESOME well rounded quality single player!! I socialize enough as it is teaching and being a student, I don't need it forced on me. Thank you!!
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Old 04-30-2012, 10:18 AM   #16
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I'm confused with this "finally!" stuff... aparently there's too many co-op games? I guess dragon age was... wait no, single player. But skyrim... no, that was a failed, fan-made patch on pc only. Ah, but the witcher... wait.

I'm not saying anyone's opinion is wrong here, but ive been looking for an RPG, that utilizes the usual RPG elements like leveling, teamwork, strategy(i.e. NOT FABLE) amd havent fount a single game yet. I dont play on PC so MMO's don't count. Maybe theyre out there, and ive just missed them? By all means tell me i'm wrong, and show me all these wonderfull co-op rpg games I aparently have been blind to, because I'm not seeing them.

Single player games, that pay the due respect to such, are always better in my opinion. I dont play call of duty, or really any game that caters to online over story. That being said, i logged more hours in Resident Evil 5 than every other RE title combined, despite it being one of the weakest in the series, soely because i could play it with my friends.

There are alot of co-p games out there, and last i checked, most are shooters or 10$ indie games. This was looking to be the first, real quality RPG that would include co-op. They didnt loose a sale in me, but there's too many games for me to afford as is, so likely a christmas gift, or a next year purchase sadly.
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Old 04-30-2012, 07:34 PM   #17
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@Jerric - Just throwing this out there, but you don't need a PC to play an MMO anyways. There are 2 options on the Xbox 360 and "possibly" another in the works. You have Phantasy Star Universe and Final Fantasy XI Online out at the moment, and there 'are' co-op RPGs out there, if you're willing to be open-minded. You've got Sacred 2: Fallen Angel, which is a vastly under-rated classic co-op RPG, up to 4? players per lobby. Dungeon Siege 3, which isn't as polished as it's PC counterparts, but it still makes for a fun and challenging RPG experience. Then you've got Two Worlds 2's multiplayer. I'm not going to sweet talk you in to buying this game, because the general concensus for this series is.....well, that it sucks. I enjoyed the multiplayer for TW2, though.

Then you've got the arcade games to check out. Dungeons and Dragons: Daggerdale is a decent little co-op RPG (4 players). There are some bugs that were never patched. Some game breaking for certain characters, some might say, but I still enjoyed it. Then you've got Dungeon Defenders, which is a RPG and tower defense hybrid, but still 'highly' fun and addictive when playing with friends. Then there's Castle Crashers. I wouldn't go so far as to call it an RPG, persay, but it's got RPG elements and is one of the most enjoyable XBLA co-op experiences to date. Then there's Might and Magic Clash of Heroes. If you can deal with the grid-based combat, it's a very unique game on the Xbox 360. Then there's Crimson Alliance. Another "decent" dungeon crawling co-op RPG.

And if you're 'really' open-minded, you might want to check out Dead Island. It's one of the most addictive co-op games I've ever played. At it's core, it 'is' a zombie survival game, but it has so many addictive RPG elements that you sometimes forget that you're actually playing an action game. And then there's Guild Wars 2, which "might" come out for the 360. It's an MMO, but if it follows suit to it's predecessor, you just buy the game and aren't subjected to a monthly fee.

So don't say there aren't "any" co-op RPGs, because I just listed all the ones I've played and enjoyed for you. You can't expect the big name RPGs like Elder Scrolls, Dragon Age and The Witcher to go co-op. They're great at what they do and I, personally, would never want them to change the mechanics that make their games so wonderful.

And I completely forgot about this game, as it was even too challenging for me, but Dark Souls is 4-player co-op, aswell. It may be a little easier with friends, but that's one RPG I wouldn't dare tackle solo.
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:13 AM   #18
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And that pretty much says it all I think. The majority of what you listed i have tried, but for the most part, cant even be compared. I get why online games get annoying when you can't find good people, and half-assed AI further that stigma. On the other hand, single player games usually better refine their AI because it's what you'll be relying on. Why it has to be one or the other is what confuses me.

This game seems great, and the more i play the demo the more i love it. I think the feeling of "missed opportunity" is what bums me out.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:35 AM   #19
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When did this change? i was under the impression back when I first heard about it that it was gonna have co-op or at least thats what alot of vidocs lead me to believe.
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Old 05-04-2012, 01:56 PM   #20
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I can't stand people who bitch about singleplayer rpgs that don't have coop. Get over yourself honestly. If you want coop go play an mmo with some friends. I play singleplayer rpgs BY MYSELF to enjoy it BY MYSELF and not have to deal with other idiots.

Anyways, this game looks amazing and I cannot wait. The demo was very fun and the more I see about the game the more excited I get. It's not MH but its damn close enough.
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I can't stand people who bitch about singleplayer rpgs that don't have coop. Get over yourself honestly. If you want coop go play an mmo with some friends. I play singleplayer rpgs BY MYSELF to enjoy it BY MYSELF and not have to deal with other idiots.

Anyways, this game looks amazing and I cannot wait. The demo was very fun and the more I see about the game the more excited I get. It's not MH but its damn close enough.
Pretty much my thoughts exactly except I haven't played the demo but it will be a day one pick up for myself more so because it doesn't have co-op. I'm sick of every game having a co-op option because there are many of us out there that prefer single player rpgs
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I have a feeling that the sequel will feature at least two-player co-op (think about it; you and your pawn, a friend and their pawn, it just works!) but the fact of the matter is that the feature needs to be worked out at the start of the process, rather than later. The experience needs to please both groups; the game should feel full and fun even if you play offline, and it shouldn't have co-op just because there are three slots in your party that could be filled by players instead of AI.

As it stands, the game is kind of an experiment; Lost Planet still hasn't gotten much hold in America, and I've got a feeling that Dragon's Dogma will hit a similar niche situation...Personally I hope that Dragon's Dogma receives more mainstream success.

I guess if you want your voice heard, the best way to do it is to respond to articles and post on the forums at Capcom Unity; I know their community managers pay quite a bit of attention to fighting game threads there.

I agree that the game feels like it should be co-op out of the box, but I don't think it's less of a game for not featuring it. Again, play the game, tell Capcom if you like it, and tell them that you want more and better from this new franchise; any great developer will tell you that it's not just the studio, but the community's assistance that helps games improve.
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I don't mind co-op, but I definitely prefer to run my epic quests solo.
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I love co-op games, but not so much co-op in RPGs. I want to the be most bad ass character in the game. I want to be the one who can take down a horde of monsters or a dragon alone. I don't need some co-op partner swooping in and taking all the glory for himself. Especially since it's an RPG and you need the experience points to grow so if your partner is murdering everything, what are you really gaining? Sure there are pawns in the game and they can just as easily take that last gratifying hit on the chimera you took minutes to take down, but at least you can control the pawns. So if some one like me wants to show off and make the unwise decision to take on a griffin by himself, I can just make the pawns wait somewhere while I take on the beast alone.
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These are the same people that won't buy this game that didn't buy Oblivion, Skyrim, Risen or KoA because it wasn't online and or Co-Op... they are missing out
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These are the same people that won't buy this game that didn't buy Oblivion, Skyrim, Risen or KoA because it wasn't online and or Co-Op... they are missing out
I have such pity for anyone, genre specific or not, who hasn't played Oblivion yet. Morrowind was my first real memorable experience with RPGs and I immediately fell in love, so Oblivion and Skyrim were a no brainer for me. Also, Risen gets a bad rep for some reason, I personally thought the game was okay.

I can't really say pity, I guess, I just couldn't think of a better word. I mean, I can't stand online shooters but even I can watch gameplay on youtube and recognize how much fun it would be, but for someone to negate the experience of an epic journey because it's missing co-op is just retarded.
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I agree. I know this can be taken way out of context, but imagine reading a book by your self page by page. You get to read the story at your own pace and fully understand the literature your reading. Now lets take the same situation, except your taking turns with a few other people reading every other paragraph out loud. Would get pretty annoying and probably not have the same immersing as if you had done it your self.

Not all games need online elements to be the "true version" to play. I also agree Morrowind was a fantastic game that really opened my eyes and introduced me to open world RPGs. Again you didn't see any forum posts state "Skyrim isn't Online!? I'm not buying it, hell no, no way, single player games are stupid in this new millennium of gaming!" Didn't think so .
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I agree. I know this can be taken way out of context, but imagine reading a book by your self page by page. You get to read the story at your own pace and fully understand the literature your reading. Now lets take the same situation, except your taking turns with a few other people reading every other paragraph out loud. Would get pretty annoying and probably not have the same immersing as if you had done it your self.

Not all games need online elements to be the "true version" to play. I also agree Morrowind was a fantastic game that really opened my eyes and introduced me to open world RPGs. Again you didn't see any forum posts state "Skyrim isn't Online!? I'm not buying it, hell no, no way, single player games are stupid in this new millennium of gaming!" Didn't think so .

HA! Nice analogy. I actually prefer single player in big RPGs that allow me to micromanage everything (Skyrim, Dragon Age, ect.)

The most annoying thing in the world is having to wait for your co-op partner(s) every time you find some new loot.
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We need more singleplayer games, especially rpgs/jrpgs. I use to be all about MP in the days when I played CoD4 hardcore and I still play Halo on and off from time to time but at this point in my gaming life I would prefer to sit down and enjoy a large open world and get wrapped up in a story or crazy moments(Witcher 2 and Skyrim come to mind) THEN talk to my friends about it.

It's more personal and imo, meaningful if it happened to you and not someone else then you can talk about it later.
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