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Old 02-16-2012, 04:13 AM   #61
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I just finished 12 hours of AFKing this fn horrible excuse of a gametype and only got 59 games played - thats only 5 per hour on average.

I used 2 xboxs since my 2nd does not have the awful fenix rising maps on it.

2AFK vs 1AFK+1bot vs 2bots vs 2 bots
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Next Ill try: 2AFK vs 2AFK vs 2bots with all other settings the same. Ideas? Advice?
I'm only running one box, but like the above poster said, use boomshots.

For some reason they are much more bloodthirsty with boomshots and find/kill me faster
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Old 02-16-2012, 04:23 AM   #62
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Only change I'd advise is use boomshots instead of diggers. Bots can sometimes be trigger happy and waste a digger bullet, plus there's only 3 in a pick-up I believe.
Alright guys, Ill try my 2nd method but with boomshots tonight. Ive had good success with diggers in other game modes but ill give it a go.
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Old 02-17-2012, 04:32 AM   #63
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has anybody actually noticed visibly better results using boomshots?

I say this because when I idle boost (right now doing execution) i tried a few matches with boomshots and with no weapons at all and I found the matches with none at all went better than with boomshots. a lot of farting around with bots picking stuff up. i expected it would be really great but it wasn't.
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has anybody actually noticed visibly better results using boomshots?

I say this because when I idle boost (right now doing execution) i tried a few matches with boomshots and with no weapons at all and I found the matches with none at all went better than with boomshots. a lot of farting around with bots picking stuff up. i expected it would be really great but it wasn't.
Sandbar throws that out the window though. You need weapons on the map if its a map that size in order to get the bots exploring. In my experience anyway.

I had a weird afk experience last night. I had the game set up with 2afk vs 2afk vs 2 bots. But somewhere during the night one xbox dropped out of the system link and when i checked this morning i had only completed 9 games and the teams had been totally redistributed like this: 1afk+1bot vs 1afk+1bot resulting in endless stalemates . This was linked through the router, going to use a cable from now on and do it offline.
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Just hit 1000 matches, so that took about 5 days from 300 matches.

Almosr half way...
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Old 02-18-2012, 03:00 AM   #66
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Only change I'd advise is use boomshots instead of diggers. Bots can sometimes be trigger happy and waste a digger bullet, plus there's only 3 in a pick-up I believe.
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I'm only running one box, but like the above poster said, use boomshots.

For some reason they are much more bloodthirsty with boomshots and find/kill me faster
You're both right. With diggers I was getting an average of 5 wingman games per hour played. But with boomshots I'm getting 6.3 per hour. The bots do seem more blood thirsty with the boomshots on the maps instead of diggers.

2AFK vs 2AFK vs 2insane bots
Score: 10
Time: 3mins
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Avg of 6.3games per hour (over 10 hours)

This seems to work quite consistently on all pre-fenix rising maps (my 2nd xbox does not have that dlc). I tried it with an extra 2 bots but would take longer since the bots were trading kills. I might try it with 2min rounds tonight and see if i get better results though sandbar may make that infeasible ...
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:20 AM   #67
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You're both right. With diggers I was getting an average of 5 wingman games per hour played. But with boomshots I'm getting 6.3 per hour. The bots do seem more blood thirsty with the boomshots on the maps instead of diggers.

2AFK vs 2AFK vs 2insane bots
Score: 10
Time: 3mins
Boomshots
Avg of 6.3games per hour (over 10 hours)

This seems to work quite consistently on all pre-fenix rising maps (my 2nd xbox does not have that dlc). I tried it with an extra 2 bots but would take longer since the bots were trading kills. I might try it with 2min rounds tonight and see if i get better results though sandbar may make that infeasible ...
Haven't tried it two mins with booms. Kept it at three since that seems to guarentee a kill or two. Let us know if that works!
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Haven't tried it two mins with booms. Kept it at three since that seems to guarentee a kill or two. Let us know if that works!
Will do. Ill watch a couple of games on sandbar to see if they even find them in the 2 mins. So many times ive watched games where the bots will find the first 2 AFKers extremely quick and then spend the remaining time running around in circles. So if 2min rounds work on sandbar it should be more effective overall. Ill set it up like this overnight then report back tomorrow
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Yeah, I never got that. I'd watch them with 3 afk teams and they'd find the first two really fast and they've even run past the last afk team, shot a few bullets at them then kept running in circles for the rest of the round.

It's probably just Epic's way of fucking with us.
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Old 02-18-2012, 07:41 AM   #70
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Yeah, I never got that. I'd watch them with 3 afk teams and they'd find the first two really fast and they've even run past the last afk team, shot a few bullets at them then kept running in circles for the rest of the round.

It's probably just Epic's way of fucking with us.
Epic's specialty . I'm a bit jealous of people who have a 3rd xbox. If i had stable net I'd probably just host/join wingman lobbies but is pointless with my connection. Oh and belkin routers suck...



EDIT: Just finished a 11 hour boosting session set to 2min rounds with boomshots and the average is still 6.3games per hour - exactly the same as 3min rounds.

Incidentally, if you mix up the teams the rounds stalemate way often EG When i was testing a few things last night i set it up like this:
2 AFK (xbox1 & xbox2)
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2 bots.

This confused the absolute fuck out of the bots resulting in 15rounds on sandbar with only 6 points! - got to 8 but the bots were suiciding and therefore reducing the score lol

Changed it back to 1 xbox per team and it started progressing at its normal, epically slow pace.

I played through Halo CE Anniversary recently wondering what it would be like to fight 10 year old AI again. Now I know, just play a brand new epic game as they STILL have no fucken idea how to do what bungie did 10 years ago... Pathetic.
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Old 02-20-2012, 03:51 AM   #71
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i started idling wingman matches last week. i only idle while i'm at work so the following progress is all for 9 hour periods.

first night i had myself and a guest vs. two insane bots. i have no idea how, but i got just under 100 matches (96).

second night i used the same set up and only got 60, or so.

third night i tried myself and a room full of bots with three minute rounds. i only got 45 matches, which made me angry.

fourth night i tried the same setting as above, with two minute rounds. only a slight difference.

tonight i'm trying a new set-up. i'll post how it goes in the morning. i watched it for a little and the first match ended in about three and a half minutes. hope it keeps that pace the whole night!
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i started idling wingman matches last week. i only idle while i'm at work so the following progress is all for 9 hour periods.

first night i had myself and a guest vs. two insane bots. i have no idea how, but i got just under 100 matches (96).

second night i used the same set up and only got 60, or so.

third night i tried myself and a room full of bots with three minute rounds. i only got 45 matches, which made me angry.

fourth night i tried the same setting as above, with two minute rounds. only a slight difference.

tonight i'm trying a new set-up. i'll post how it goes in the morning. i watched it for a little and the first match ended in about three and a half minutes. hope it keeps that pace the whole night!
I'd recommend two teams, you and a guest VS two insane bots.

If you have it set to full, they have more competition, thus the rounds take longer. If there is only two people to kill and they're just standing there, rounds can take much less time.

But if what you're doing next has a good outcome, please post
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I'd recommend two teams, you and a guest VS two insane bots.

If you have it set to full, they have more competition, thus the rounds take longer. If there is only two people to kill and they're just standing there, rounds can take much less time.

But if what you're doing next has a good outcome, please post
Yeah one xbox is probably faster for wingman and with only 2 bots. Only reason I'm doing it with two is so I can skip the fenix rising maps - my second xbox doesnt have that dlc.
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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
EDIT: i forgot to mention for idle boosting i always keep weapon pickups off.

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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
This has to be the best Wingman set up I have seen! Just tested it out, it's just under twice as fast as any other technique I have tried. Good work mate, thanks!
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Old 02-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #76
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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
you use just one controller?
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you use just one controller?
yes, just one controller for that set up.
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yes, just one controller for that set up.
ok will try that
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I'm using 2 boxes and the good thing is my other account which is my buds doesn't have the fenix maps and I noticed I am getting a very good amount of matches in a few hours. I idled for about 10 hours and went from 275-345

Using 4 insane bots vs my 2 accounts and thier guests
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yes, just one controller for that set up.
Is it faster with 2 controllers?

Team 1: Me + 1 bot
Team 2: 2 bots
Team 3: other controller + 1 bot

Maybe the 2 bots will get an extra kill?

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Team 1: Me + 1 bot
Team 2: 2 bots
Team 3: other controller + 1 bot
Team 4: 1 bot

same as Mister Buds setup but jst more controllers and bots
idk if it will work

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You guys do realize that you can just put the fenix rising maps on a thumb drive and take the thumb drive out when you are idling so the maps won't come up, right? Also if you are running two box's that if you have a bot on a team with a afk then the bot won't leave spawn, it will just stay next to the afk player. So its best to have 2 afk vs. 2afk vs. 2 bots vs 2 bots.
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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
EDIT: i forgot to mention for idle boosting i always keep weapon pickups off.
I have been holding off on Wingman, but since you have posted this method and gotten rather nice feedback about it, I will try this.

Will update you all on how it goes...
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I have been holding off on Wingman, but since you have posted this method and gotten rather nice feedback about it, I will try this.

Will update you all on how it goes...
I have been doing this method for over an hour, and only got 5 matches done. >.< I don't know if I'm doing something wrong or what, I only have 165 matches. D=<
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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
EDIT: i forgot to mention for idle boosting i always keep weapon pickups off.
What do you have for round time limit?
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What do you have for round time limit?
2 minutes I believe is what he is using.

OK guys, so after one hour, 6 Wingman games had been played. That's not really ideal.

I don't know if I did anything wrong during setup; I followed the setup details specified.

6 games.
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I really dont understand what the hell is going on with some of your guys matches. I seem to average 10-12 games an hour.... the game must intentionally put you on sandbar constantly
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alright, i got about 80 or 90 matches last night. i forgot to see how many i was at before starting. this set up i used was:

team 1: me + 1 bot
team 2: 2 bots
team 3: 1 bot
round time: 2 minutes
EDIT: i forgot to mention for idle boosting i always keep weapon pickups off.
I think the 2 afk vs 2 bots method is still faster. I get about 165 matches in one day with that method but with ur method i only get 55 - 65 matches in 12 hours.

Idk if i do get 165 matches cauz i estimated but i do get more matches done with the 2 afk vs 2 bots method
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After about 10 hours of 1afk+1bot vs 2bots vs 1bot with 4 minute rounds, I managed 46 matches averaging 4.6 an hour. I am going back to 1afk+1bot vs 2bots.
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Guys I need a few tips,

Should I turn off weapons? I thought booms hot with insane bots is the way to go? I've been told otherwise.

What about the bleed out time?

Finally what about the amount of players? I have 2 consoles so I have 4 dummy bots and 4 active bots. Am I better off with just 6 players rather than 8?
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After about 10 hours of 1afk+1bot vs 2bots vs 1bot with 4 minute rounds, I managed 46 matches averaging 4.6 an hour. I am going back to 1afk+1bot vs 2bots.
Is 1afk+1bot vs 2bots faster than 2afk vs 2bots?
Ive seen 1 bot wreck 2 bots before
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