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Old 02-24-2012, 06:42 PM   #1
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Final boss help

*spoiler* as if asking for help on the final boss wasn't warning enough...Ok so me and Yasha are inside of Vlitra and basically fighting the larger Asura lava dude and i cant do a damn thing to get my rage over halfway. This is my first playthrough on the game and i'm on hard difficulty figuring i'd get that outta the way first, and havent had much issue with any other battle but this one. Are there any tips with this because i've tried staying at range and that doesnt work because he doesnt throw enough stuff at me to throw back, getting in tight doesnt work because he decimates me after a couple exchanges too. Could really use a tip what'd you guys do????
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Old 02-24-2012, 06:56 PM   #2
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*spoiler* as if asking for help on the final boss wasn't warning enough...Ok so me and Yasha are inside of Vlitra and basically fighting the larger Asura lava dude and i cant do a damn thing to get my rage over halfway. This is my first playthrough on the game and i'm on hard difficulty figuring i'd get that outta the way first, and havent had much issue with any other battle but this one. Are there any tips with this because i've tried staying at range and that doesnt work because he doesnt throw enough stuff at me to throw back, getting in tight doesnt work because he decimates me after a couple exchanges too. Could really use a tip what'd you guys do????
Keep your distance and rapid shoot him to build your unlimited bar. Then activate it and beat the crap out of him. Retreat after its gone and rinse and repeat. Try to learn his moves as well.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:07 PM   #3
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Okay i'll just try to write down the way i did the Boss three times.

The first thing the boss will probably do is a "slide" towards you or yasha, just dodge it and immediatly ran to him. Then use a strong attack via "Y" and smash the hell out of him with "B".

Then he will jump away, maybe he do another slide or some fireball-crap, try not to get hit - like EliteShadowMan said, keep distance!

He do 2 different attacks which are able to be countered. he will build a "rock" infront of him and throw it at you. Try to counter it with "B".

Or he raises his arms and tries to hit your head with a huge blade or what-ever. Counter this with Y.

Everytime he is "confused" or "paralized" ran towards him and hit him with Y und then combo with B. When your gauge is ready activate it when you are near him, then Y and then B.

You also should use some rapidfire when he jumps away, but dont forget do jump away/dodge.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:36 PM   #4
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thanks guys i'm trying my damndest but the highest i've gotten my rage bar was barely 3/4s and i had nil health left
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:37 PM   #5
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I feel your pain i speny nearly 2 hrs and was so close to calling it quits. I recommend doing it this way wait for yasha to attack up close as soon as u see him do that rush up and keep attacking sometimes he'll go dwn sometimes he'll stay up now if he stays up hit Y it pauses him for a few seconds back away because he will launch and drop his volcano attacks, Now the other way is keep your distance he'll launch a counter event u can repeat this process but becareful as he will change the Counter buttons from Y to b
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:43 PM   #6
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That is why most people just play hard once they get their Obliterate gauge which make hard easier than easy :P

But i totally know how hard the last boss is , i've made my first playthrough on hard and the way i did was pretty much as eliteshadow says , shoot him up til you get your rage filled up then use your invincibility against him for a bit , jump back and keep using your strafe whenever needed aswell as being quick on the qte when he jump up or shoot his projectile.
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Old 02-24-2012, 10:27 PM   #7
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One thing you should NOT try is to do a heavy attack when he does his jumping slash at you. I somehow lost 75% hp in that situation. On normal.
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Old 02-26-2012, 10:48 AM   #8
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I Dont get it the first time i beat the final boss with ease,
Now im doing the special mission and he is beast.

Every time i get him down to press Y afterwards he is across the map when i am finally there he is already up.

Cant evade his attack when he launches towards u
When he throws rocks u have little time to press the button and sometimes its B sometimes its Y.
U press the button wrong by mistake costing u 25% of your health.
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I Dont get it the first time i beat the final boss with ease,
Now im doing the special mission and he is beast.

Every time i get him down to press Y afterwards he is across the map when i am finally there he is already up.

Cant evade his attack when he launches towards u
When he throws rocks u have little time to press the button and sometimes its B sometimes its Y.
U press the button wrong by mistake costing u 25% of your health.
It usually switches between y and b anyway. But i know what you mean cause that happened to me as well.
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Old 02-26-2012, 07:51 PM   #10
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Not looking forward on doing this with the Mortal Gauge.
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:36 PM   #11
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Mortal Gauge with the last boss and Deus WAS A BITCH!!! even on easy
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:55 PM   #12
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^^^

True, 3 times u have to fight Deus.
Im now busy with the final boss :| The horror
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Old 02-26-2012, 08:59 PM   #13
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If you're using the mortal gauge you can use this strategy on all bosses. Either wait for them to get close to you or run to them. Hit LT to sorta repel them, hit Y four times with timing before rage runs out. If you knock'em down, do the QTE hit nothing else. Chase them down & start all over. Use counters whenever possible & recoveries. You might not even take damage
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:09 PM   #14
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There is allot of bullshit when it comes to the boss fights, im using that strat the whole time.

There are moments u cant evade because your in a animations, u insta die from one move etc.
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Old 02-26-2012, 09:45 PM   #15
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There is allot of bullshit when it comes to the boss fights, im using that strat the whole time.

There are moments u cant evade because your in a animations, u insta die from one move etc.
u dont understand how many times i tried dodging and crap and still get hit, The bugs seem to only happen when your fighting Deus and the last lvl boss I spent almost 2 hrs on deus and the another on his nunchuck mode then the real pisser that almost made me go im done was the last boss the Burst gauge took so long to fill up it wasnt even funny
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:13 PM   #16
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Cant evade his attack when he launches towards u
When he throws rocks u have little time to press the button and sometimes its B sometimes its Y.
U press the button wrong by mistake costing u 25% of your health.
Just dodge the launch with RB. My problem is that he always targets yasha, who always gets hit, which means I can barely punish him at all.

Yeah, just press Y or B, you have a lot of time to react. Not a problem.

The RB dodge is completely invincible, don't forget about it.
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Old 02-26-2012, 11:17 PM   #17
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Thanks guys i finally beat him, even tho it sounds like i shoulda just run through on easy first to limit my playthrough time. Not that the game takes along time to beat but it'd be alot faster if skipping the cut scenes was just one button press in stead of hitting back half a dozen times lol...also *spoiler*....the ending was kinda laaame
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Old 02-27-2012, 04:11 PM   #18
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Just dodge the launch with RB. My problem is that he always targets yasha, who always gets hit, which means I can barely punish him at all.

Yeah, just press Y or B, you have a lot of time to react. Not a problem.

The RB dodge is completely invincible, don't forget about it.
I see now that i have allot more time then i thought, the projectile just pauses almost and u can press the right key, thanks!

For the last part, that isnt the case for me in most situations. U have those bullshit moments where u press RB and stil get hit.

Most attacks i can dodge but with mortal Gauge 3 hits and your out.
Comparing to the length of the battle its a pain in the ass

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HOW THE FUCK
Do u evade / counter the attack when he shoots a wall of erupting volcanos at you that closes u in a tight circle. When it gets to the center it will move away from the center and in the meanwhile he has two swords which he spins with, and then while your in an animation he throws a rock at you wich u cant counter cause of the animation.

FREAKING THREE ATTACKS AT ONCE

this is insane, ive beaten him two times on normal with an s rank, now with the mortal gauge cant do shit. Last try this evening then im gonna quit this game fuck it

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Old 02-27-2012, 04:46 PM   #19
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For the last part, that isnt the case for me in most situations. U have those bullshit moments where u press RB and stil get hit.

Most attacks i can dodge but with mortal Gauge 3 hits and your out.
Comparing to the length of the battle its a pain in the ass

Eddit:

HOW THE FUCK
Do u evade / counter the attack when he shoots a wall of erupting volcanos at you that closes u in a tight circle. When it gets to the center it will move away from the center and in the meanwhile he has two swords which he spins with, and then while your in an animation he throws a rock at you wich u cant counter cause of the animation.
The roll is completely invincible... for a short amount of time, sorry for not specifying that.

That move is very easy to dodge actually. First, roll through the wall of fire, then jump to the side and press X to extend your jump, clearing the lasers easily. Then just counter the 3rd attack.
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The roll is completely invincible... for a short amount of time, sorry for not specifying that.

That move is very easy to dodge actually. First, roll through the wall of fire, then jump to the side and press X to extend your jump, clearing the lasers easily. Then just counter the 3rd attack.
Rolling trough works 50% of the time, cant counter third attack because im in mid-air evading the lasers

Why do i have the feeling im playing a diffrent game, ive beaten it already with an S rank two times on normal. Im not a n00b and its not easy like u say it is.
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Old 02-27-2012, 05:49 PM   #21
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I start to hate this sucker... I had minor problems with him on my normal playthrough and got him without being hit on e18 on my mortal playthrough, but he is kicking my ass like there is no tomorrow on the true e18...

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Old 02-27-2012, 07:01 PM   #22
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2 evenings and about 70 try's later no luck.

I am calling quits bye it was fun for those few couple of hours of gameplay
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Old 02-27-2012, 10:00 PM   #23
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Not being a dick here but on Mortal i had 18 and 18+ done quick. if you stay at maximum distance and shoot load your unlimited mode, unload on him while your in unlimited up close. Just stay in the air and stay far away with not in unlimited mode. I know it's a bitch but that's what I did.
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Not being a dick here but on Mortal i had 18 and 18+ done quick. if you stay at maximum distance and shoot load your unlimited mode, unload on him while your in unlimited up close. Just stay in the air and stay far away with not in unlimited mode. I know it's a bitch but that's what I did.
Thats what I did, and that isnt the problem.
My problem is that i cant evade nor counter attack.
And with little health your done lol.
It seems sometimes attacks are glitched bugged. Its rather luck then realy owning the game.
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Rolling trough works 50% of the time, cant counter third attack because im in mid-air evading the lasers
Roll later, jump way earlier. You'll be on the ground before he's done with the swing. This works 100% of the time for me, and unless you're playing on hard and that is completely different, it should be the same for you.
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Keep your distance and rapid shoot him to build your unlimited bar. Then activate it and beat the crap out of him. Retreat after its gone and rinse and repeat. Try to learn his moves as well.
I registered on this site soley to thank all who contributed on this thread i have been playing the final boss fight for about 2 1/2 hours and thanks to your suggestions i was able to finally kill that awful doppelganger of a boss
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Old 03-13-2012, 02:11 PM   #27
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this is such a joke - ive never died once on my whole normal playthrough, but with the mortal gauge equipped ive died several times in the game (playing on easy ofc).

the more i play this game the more i realize how weak the gameplay actually is...final boss is being ridiculous - when he does his spinning laser thingie and hits me once, it is actually WORSE to do the A-recover-move because i get hit in the AGAIN and die instantly with two hits. other scenario: im laying on the ground, and once i get up his laser INSTANTLY kills me, no chance to evade whatsoever.

also seen several bugs with that last boss, like me doing the B-button reversal, and while Asura is throwing the rock back at him, hes already airborne and doing his move where you have to counter with Y and kills me with it due to me being occupied with that freakin rock.

last time i died was because he threw that rock at me while i was still airborne, recovering from his laser beam and OFC i cant counter while im airborne AAHHHH!Ii3&(/"!&(!"&("!

boss-mechanic-wise this game is so wannabe-Ninja Gaiden. the game tries too hard and fails utterly at it...i used to enjoy this game, but it is so cheap at times that it makes me wanna break the disc in two.
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Old 03-15-2012, 08:41 PM   #28
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Great tips, just finished my Mortal run and 18 was a bitch, then i read these and did True 18 without losing any health.
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Old 03-17-2012, 11:52 AM   #29
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One note on the final boss and when he's weak. When he does that move where he charges at you, he will not always open himself up for attack. The battle always starts the same way, he'll charge at you and then if you move out of the way, he charges at you again. If you look closely, you'll see that the second time he charges at you he collapses slightly, and that's when your opening is to start smashing him with B and then Y. If you try and attack him when he hasn't collapsed, he'll just defend.

Later, the same applies. He'll do that charge attack but he won't fall down and leave himself open. Instead, about half the time he does the charge attack he'll follow it by swiping his claws in an arc in front of him, and then as soon as he does that, he leaves himself open.

Basically every other attack can be avoided with RB if you time it right, like the lasers and the circle of fire. It's just about knowing when to attack and when to stay back, the above two instances are the only "safe" times to attack him, aside from counters. So with all that information and a bit of practice on the timing, there's no reason why you should get hit at all.
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Most of the final bosses things can be dodged with the RB. When he makes the fire pillars shoot out, you just dodge roll right out of it before it gets to you. Same with when he raises his hands into the air to fire that flame lazor thing u can dodge roll it, except u do need quite a bit of timing on that one. Shooting him does help the gauge but sometimes leaves you wide open to get hit. Wait till he's focused on Yasha and then jump air dash at him and start releasing some pwnage on his face. Just don't stick around long cuz he gets claw attack happy after a sec. I did the boss fight with the invisible gauge and hard mode which was intense, obviously not as bad as the low health one but yeah, just gotta remember ur invincible when it comes to dodge rolling at the right time.
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