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View Poll Results: How do you feel about the ending?
I love it. 45 9.68%
I like it as-is. 58 12.47%
I like the indoctrination theory. 56 12.04%
I like it, but the lack of closure bothers me. 99 21.29%
I dislike it, but I may like it with some elaboration and clarification. 62 13.33%
I dislike it, and hope they make a new ending. 35 7.53%
I dislike it, and believe the indoctrination theory. 42 9.03%
I hate it. 68 14.62%
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Old 06-27-2012, 09:02 PM   #781
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Didn't for me. Normandy clearly got damaged by the beam (Destroy Ending) and does not take off after the memorial.

Mass Effect 3-Extended Cut-Destroy Ending (Bad) - YouTube
Low EMS - The wave causes you to crash

High EMS - The wave does nothing but Joker decides to crash the Normandy anyway.

Way to go bioware.
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Low EMS - The wave causes you to crash

High EMS - The wave does nothing but Joker decides to crash the Normandy anyway.

Way to go bioware.
You could argue that with High EMS, Joker makes an emergency landing, but until we get an Extended Extended Cut, it's only hypothetical
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I just finished my first play through. I made a point of avoiding the original endings on youtube etc, so that I could experience them as they were first intended.

They were crap. Why? Because the chick I worked so hard to romance through all three games ended up stranded with Joker! WTF?!

I know the originals endings are all open to interpretation, but it still pisses me off.
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EMS is definitely the factor. mine was fairly high and it was the destruction ending.

My problem isn't so much with the possibility of them fixing the Normandy and taking off again as much as it just seemed kind of ambiguous that they show this crash land scene, the exit from the ship onto the new planet, then a memorial and they leave again. I just didn't see much point in them adding the departure, not that i got the point of Joker leaving the battle and getting tossed out of slipspace onto the planet to begin with. The take off just made the weird weirder.
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EMS is definitely the factor. mine was fairly high and it was the destruction ending.

My problem isn't so much with the possibility of them fixing the Normandy and taking off again as much as it just seemed kind of ambiguous that they show this crash land scene, the exit from the ship onto the new planet, then a memorial and they leave again. I just didn't see much point in them adding the departure, not that i got the point of Joker leaving the battle and getting tossed out of slipspace onto the planet to begin with. The take off just made the weird weirder.
This just means that if you try to hide your bullshit ending with flashy scenes then people will like it more. Even if it STILL does not make any sense.
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Well I've just gone through the endings again since the update. I have to say, I enjoy them. They are not completely perfect and there are some flaws in them to be sure, but I am ok with them. They aren't major enough to really effect it to the level of annoyance I had for the originals.

The Control ending was pretty awesome. Really liked the way it is explained and LOVED the Shepard Epilogue.

The Synthesis ending is clearly the intended ending. Shepard sacrificing himself and saving everything by doing so is the feel good kind of ending of the bunch for the paragon in me. Finally seeing the Quarian's (I'm guessing Tali's?) face is sweet. EDI's Epilogue is great as well.

The Destroy ending was decent but likely my least favourite of the bunch. Maybe it was just that Hackett gave the epilogue. Garrus would have been a better choice or Liara would have been good too. Apparently this destroy choice didn't kill the Geth. That's good since I managed to join them up with the Quarians but I found it a little odd since it should have killed them.

The Catylist ending is pretty good too. It's sad that the Reapers initially win but I liked the Woman and the child at the end explaining that Liara's message would be the key to destroying the reapers in the next cycle. Plus it was pretty satisfying to shoot the little bastard in the face.

Through all 3 endings the addition of the fleet getting called back and the Normandy obeying satisfied my greatest issue with the Normandy abandoning Shepard mid-battle. The Wall of the dead scene was excellent in all 3, though I think destroy one was better just because Liara gave the little smile at the end.. It would have been cool if Liara (or Ashley if she was your girl) had been pregnant in that scene though. I also liked that they changed the Mass Relay scenes as well so that they were just damaged, not destroyed.
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Synthesis goes against everything in mass effect and you are forcing every living being to be changed...

"we might as well be machines"

Also, that's not Tali and the geth do die if you choose Destroy. They were simply too lazy to show that.

And the major problem that is still not fixed is that these endings DON'T FIT MASS EFFECT.
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The Destroy ending was decent but likely my least favourite of the bunch. Maybe it was just that Hackett gave the epilogue. Garrus would have been a better choice or Liara would have been good too. Apparently this destroy choice didn't kill the Geth. That's good since I managed to join them up with the Quarians but I found it a little odd since it should have killed them.
What gave you this impression? I chose Destroy and there were no Geth to be seen, so I assumed they were destroyed :S
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my destroy ending had no geth as well. as far as i can tell it did destroy the geth.
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What gave you this impression? I chose Destroy and there were no Geth to be seen, so I assumed they were destroyed :S
Pretty sure that in Hackett's epilogue there is a shot of the Geth and the Quarians together. Was in mine at least. I had 6000 and had brought them together though.
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You should all stop liking the Indoctrination Theory idea for those who voted it. Because in the end Bioware makes the games, and obviously doesn't want into exist, so stop connecting unrelated events etc, to create your own ideas. End of now.
If anyone couldn't tell already, this horrible attempt at trolling is courtesy of our old friend Altfoot85's new account.
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:19 PM   #794
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My view on the ending was "better than it was, but could still be better". While I feel they've made MASSIVE improvements... well, that wasn't that hard, was it? The original ending had more holes than a holey thing. Things like "I was fighting alongside you but without transporters I'm back on Normandy". It's better... but could still have a little more work.
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Personally, I'm quite annoyed on the endings to Mass Effect 3.

I don't want Shepard to die. I want him to kill the Reapers, save everyone, every species, to live and carry on the romance with Liara (my romance choice).

The NEW endings, I feel abit more satisfied with.

The Control ending I liked. The Synthesis ending is the intended ending for the game. The Destroy ending, I didn't like.

But.


I've been reading around forums, and I've stumbled across this 'The Truth' DLC rumored.
People are saying that when Shepard gets blasted by Harb, he's unconscious, get's knocked out and starts dreaming and from there on where you get up with a pistol, stumble across and get beamed to the Crucible... is all a dream.
Now this only seems like a possibility ONLY if you choose the Destroy ending in the "dream" because at the end of the Destroy ending, you see Shepard (with his DogTag dangling down) take a deep breathe.
This could be Shepard becoming conscious on the street, on Earth, where he got blasted by Harb.

If this is the case then I am totally pleased that you (Shepard) do survive as I don't want the story to end personally. Though, what I then really want to know is what actually happened whilst you were knocked out and buried in rubble? Who died? Is my romance character (Liara) still alive? Pregnant? Are my squadmates all alive and helping rebuild or is everything destroyed?

I know that they could start something completely new with Mass Effect Universe. There's so much they could create using that Universe.

I just wanted what I think everyone wanted. Shepard stopping the Reapers, surviving, everyone you know (Squad) are alive, and everyone starts rebuilding.

I'm hoping 'The Truth' DLC and what I've read and stated above is true. I'd personally love that.
I expect there to be more DLC (with Achievements) anyway seeming as Mass Effect 1 & 2 got a couple and they both boosted the Gamerscore on both by a couple of hundred.
I'm going through it on Insanity (as I've been finishing off other titles) and then I shall start the 'From Ashes' DLC, which looks quite intriguing.
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Also, bring on the 'Leviathan DLC'.
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i don't think bioware is going to make any other post-campaign DLC.
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I've been reading around forums, and I've stumbled across this 'The Truth' DLC rumored.
People are saying that when Shepard gets blasted by Harb, he's unconscious, get's knocked out and starts dreaming and from there on where you get up with a pistol, stumble across and get beamed to the Crucible... is all a dream.
Now this only seems like a possibility ONLY if you choose the Destroy ending in the "dream" because at the end of the Destroy ending, you see Shepard (with his DogTag dangling down) take a deep breathe.
This could be Shepard becoming conscious on the street, on Earth, where he got blasted by Harb.

If this is the case then I am totally pleased that you (Shepard) do survive as I don't want the story to end personally. Though, what I then really want to know is what actually happened whilst you were knocked out and buried in rubble? Who died? Is my romance character (Liara) still alive? Pregnant? Are my squadmates all alive and helping rebuild or is everything destroyed?

I know that they could start something completely new with Mass Effect Universe. There's so much they could create using that Universe.

I just wanted what I think everyone wanted. Shepard stopping the Reapers, surviving, everyone you know (Squad) are alive, and everyone starts rebuilding.

I'm hoping 'The Truth' DLC and what I've read and stated above is true. I'd personally love that.
I expect there to be more DLC (with Achievements) anyway seeming as Mass Effect 1 & 2 got a couple and they both boosted the Gamerscore on both by a couple of hundred.
I'm going through it on Insanity (as I've been finishing off other titles) and then I shall start the 'From Ashes' DLC, which looks quite intriguing.
What you are talking about is the indoctrination theory. It is not upcoming dlc but a theory that many fans had to explain away the ending. The EC dlc blew the theory out of the water by having scenes after the chosen ending explaining what happens afterwards. For the indotrination theory to be viable it would mean Bioware added those scenes for nothing since they are just part of a dream. Point is, sorry not happening.
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If what you mean is that you face only one decision, then what exactly do you expect? That based on decisions made in the last 3 years, the Crucible, a device that's been worked on for millions of years, functions differently? That the Reapers, which are even older, have a different purpose? How can that have changed in the last 3 years? Something millions of years in the past can't be completely different based on recent events. That'd be like saying that if I was nicer to strangers, Abraham Lincoln wasn't assassinated.

You can't realistically have multiple resolutions and still have it make any sort of sense. I DO think that they should have changed how you interact with and respond to the Catalyst based on the game, though. It's weird as hell that you can't even mention it if you brokered peace between the Geth and the Quarian. But you can't change the basic scenario, because there's no reason it would be different just because of recent events.
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Kaiden is gay or straight
Or, logically speaking, he could be bisexual. Because that is a thing, even in guys. He couldn't be considered gay anyways, he had a thing for a girl in that biotic class he was in well before he met Shepard.
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Or, logically speaking, he could be bisexual. Because that is a thing, even in guys. He couldn't be considered gay anyways, he had a thing for a girl in that biotic class he was in well before he met Shepard.
I don't really buy the whole bisexual thing, but either way I doubt he's meant to be bisexual in the canon. As for the girl, lots of gays date people of the opposite sex earlier in their lives.

My point is that there are story/origin differences based on the way you play the game, and it isn't adhering to a single objective reality, therefore Bioware could have implemented endings which reflected that.
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Sadly no sound but Bioware never took into account that you can kill off so many again showing the ending and the EC was rushed

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Why is everyone complaining about the floating nameplate? Its obvious that Bioware weren't lazy, that the floating nameplate is being held by a Geth Infiltrator who went and cloaked itself.
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So, I finally finished the game, and therefore, the trilogy.

Enjoyed it all, to be fair. Although I think I would have accepted the 'star child' entity part more if it had been a shiny mess of a glyph, similar to what the VI in Thessia resembles before taking the form of a Prothean, instead of taking the form of a child.

Why?

And to show how much of an impact the whole ending thing had on me, I had already forgotten what was said about the Destroy ending come the slide show, but I'm positive that during discussion about this option, I got the vibe that BioWare could possibly pull a trick out of the bag with the inclusion of Leviathan. I'll need to replay, just to make sure I wasn't kidding myself...

Ah well. It's either back to Skyrim, or maybe I'll even play Dragon Age 2 finally and marvel at another fantastic installment from BioWare.
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Finished for the first time the other day, and I felt the ending fell apart only in the final cutscene. The final charge and everything was pretty cool, ignoring how the illusive man teleported to you, but the thing that bothered me is there weren't REALLY multiple endings. I went for the synergy one, then looked the other two up on youtube and the only difference was the colour of the explosion.

But meh, Bioware wanted to end their game their way, the serious issue was that what youd done in the last three games didnt really count for anything. For such an awesome trilogy based on player choice, it just seems strange that they'd take that away at the moment all mass effect fans have been waiting for.

I saved the extended cut for my 2nd playthrough on insanity so I could see what all the fuss was about with the original endings, so I'm hoping that cleans it up a little. But at the end of the day, its an amazing game, even if it did fall apart at the end, which tbf isn't too surprising for Bioware. I love all their games, but their end game can often be fairly weak
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I just finished it for the first time with extended cut intlstalled, and picked the destroy ending with over 5000 assets.

I likes the ending. I have seen the others, anllbut I felt the destroy ending fit mass effect.

humanity is preserved (the goal of all 3 games). But with this ending, free will is preserved, with the only losses synthetic (not real life).

And, my Shepard is alive!

Overall, I liked it. I did feel that the destroy ending is the only you've Shepard would make. Either renegade or paragon, over the three games we've learnt who he is. He wouldnt sacrifice free will. Ever. so sythisis is out. I also don't think he'd choose control, he fought it for so long. Thoughts?

However, if someone could pm me how the from ashes and leviathan dlc fit into the story (im guessing they take place before the ending and therefore have no real impact) thatd be appreciated.
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