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** Guide and Roadmap submitted on 6/25/12





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Overview:
- Estimated difficulty: 2/10 (with practice, itís just a matter of memorizing moves, even for those new to the game. Plus, you can save at the beginning of each scene.)
- Offline: 12/12 (200)
- Online: 0/0 (0)
- Approximate amount of time to 200: 1-5 hours (one playthrough of the game can be completed within 15-20 minutes, but if you are new to this game and donít use a walkthrough, it will take longer.)
- Minimum number of playthroughs needed: At least 2 (once on Easy [for multiple achievements - see below] and once on Hard. More playthroughs will be required if you are unfamiliar with the game.)
- Number of missable achievements: None
- Do cheat codes disable achievements?: No codes
- Does difficulty affect achievements?: Yes (For "Lair King" you must play on Easy in Arcade Mode. For "Giddy Gone" you must play on Easy. For "Quest Complete" and ďChoked Out" you must play on Hard.)
- Glitchy achievements: No
- Unobtainable achievements: No
- Extra equipment needed?: No (Kinect can be used to play this, but it is not required.)
- Avatar Awards: Yes (link)
- Unlockable Gamerpics: Yes (link)


Introduction:
"Dragonís Lair, the fantasy adventure where you become a valiant knight, on a quest to rescue the fair princess from the clutches of an evil dragonÖ"

Welcome to Dragonís Lair, the fully animated laser disc video game from 1983. Developed by ex-Disney animator, Don Bluth, this game takes you through the wizard Mordrocís castle in search of Princess Daphne, who has been kidnapped by the evil dragon, Singe. You will fight your way through 30 different levels, or scenes, as you try and save the beautiful princess.

The game is very simple, yet you need to time your moves perfectly if you want to survive. Itís just a matter of memorizing the moves (or by looking at the walkthrough here) and timing them so you clear each scene with no trouble at all. Or you can play with the move guide on.

There are 30 scenes; including the dragonís lair (the Falling Circular Platform scene has a 3-ledge and 9-ledge variety, but it still counts as one scene). 8 scenes are "mirrored", and you play through all of them before you reach the dragonís lair. You play through each scene using the left thumbstick or the D-Pad (easier to use the D-Pad). The moves are , , and . There is also a Sword button (). Thatís it.

The game allows you to save at the beginning of each scene. It is extremely helpful if you want to complete the game without losing any lives (see "Flawless") or if you want to at least get to the dragonís lair without dying for the perfect score (see "Lair King").

There are two game modes, Arcade and Home. When playing on Arcade mode, the game switches to a different scene each time you die. In Home mode, the game stays on the same scene when you die until you complete it. This is especially useful for the "Eat Me" achievement.

You have the option of playing this game using your Kinect if you want. There aren't any achievements directly related to the Kinect, and from what I hear, the gesture recognition doesn't work too well. So to save you from any headaches, it's best to play this game with a controller.


Step 1 (Easy Playthrough):
Note: It should be noted that this step is meant for someone playing with a controller, as "Lair King" and "Save Me!" can only be unlocked by using a controller. Also, "Giddy Gone" can only be unlocked by playing on Easy.

Note: If you are unfamiliar with the game and want to play with the move guide on during your Easy and Hard playthroughs, you will need an additional playthrough to play with it off (to unlock the "1983 Mode" achievement).

The game automatically sets your lives to "5". Go to Help & Options > Settings > Move Guide and select "Off". Finally, go to Help & Options > Settings > Arcade Monitor and select "On". Choose to play on the Easy difficulty in Arcade mode and then start the game.

In this playthrough, you will be going for:
  • "One More Quarter" - Played with the Arcade monitor on.
  • "Going Down" - Got off on the 9th floor of the falling platform.
  • "Giddy Gone" - Used the shortcut move in the Giddy Goons Room (Easy Mode).
  • "1983 Mode" - Completed the game with the move guide turned off.
  • "Save Me!" - Completed the game with a controller.
  • "Flawless" - Completed the game with five lives.
  • "Lair King" - Got a high score of 427,469 (Controller Mode).
Save when each scene starts, so if you die, you can reload the game. To get everything listed above except "Lair King", you have to kill the dragon with all 5 lives intact, without dying, play the game with the move guide off, and use a controller. See "Lair King" in the guide for strategies on how to get that achievement in this playthrough.

If you play this playthrough offline and changed your console's date, you can also unlock:
  • "Date with Daphne" - Played Dragonís Lair on its anniversary: June 19.
Please note that this achievement is based on the GMT +0 time zone, not your local time, so playing it at any time on June 19th may not unlock the achievement. Please read the thread that explains unlocking this achievement here.


Step 2 (Hard Playthrough):
The game automatically sets your lives to "5". You can leave the move guide on if you want. Choose to play on the Hard difficulty (doesn't matter what Mode) and then start the game.

In this playthrough, the only achievement you will be concentrating on is "Quest Complete". You can also unlock "Choked Out" in this playthrough since you can die (if you unlocked "Flawless" in your previous playthrough). Just complete the game before all 5 lives are used up.


Step 3 (Random Achievements):
This two achievements require playthroughs of their own.
  • "Eat Me" - Lost your last life in the Drink Me scene... and watched carefully.
  • "Bumbling Knight" - Never make a correct move in a new game (Controller Mode).

Conclusion:
Congratulations on a relatively painless and enjoyable 200. With a little time and some patience, youíre bound to memorize the moves for each scene, making the game that much easier.

Look at my walkthrough located here to see the solution to every scene to make your playthroughs easier. Beware these do contain spoilers. You have been warned.

Scoring Guide:
Dragon's Lair Scoring Chart
  • This score chart is 100% accurate if you are playing on Easy/Arcade mode (with the exception of one 3-ledge Falling Circular Platform scene - see below)
  • The Drawbridge scene is missing from this list (since the scene only shows up in Home mode playing on either difficulty, not Arcade mode). Either way, there are no points awarded for this scene.
  • The Falling Circular Platform 3-ledge mirror scene is also missing (which awards you with 3,304 points on both Easy and Hard difficulties, both Arcade and Home mode).

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Lead on adventurer. Your quest awaits."


Thanks goes to PilgrimYellow for first revealing the secret achievements in the forum and thanks to the many forum members for their valuable input.



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Eat Me - 20
Lost your last life in the Drink Me scene... and watched carefully.

Although the scenes are random, from my experience, it comes pretty early on in the game. Instead of pressing to exit the room, donít press anything.

Note: Play this in Home mode. This allows you to repeat the scene as long as you donít complete it (as opposed to Arcade mode which changes scenes every time you die). So no matter how many lives you have left, the game will keep repeating this scene if you donít press .

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.

The title to this achievement is actually an easter egg in the original arcade game: "If you lose your last life on the "Drink Me" scene, when Dirk's skeleton crumbles down, the bottle with the 'Drink Me' sign is missing but replaced with a loaf of bread and a sign that says 'EAT ME'."

Source: Laser Disc Game Easter Eggs


Choked Out - 20
Died via asphyxiation in the bedroom scene (Hard Mode).

When you recognize this scene as the one where the wall closes up on you, press either or . This will cause Dirk to not move and the room be filled with toxic gas, killing him.

When you press or , the wall closes up and the room fills with gas. Pressing and will reveal another death scene (Dirk being trapped in the wall).

Note: This can only be done on Hard difficulty, in either Arcade or Home mode.

If you are following the roadmap, your Hard playthrough should be just to complete the game to earn the "Quest Complete" achievement. You can lose lives, but make sure you donít lose them all. Save this achievement for that playthrough.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Giddy Gone - 10
Used the shortcut move in the Giddy Goons Room (Easy Mode).

Normally (according to the move guide), there are four moves to this scene: , , and . When you do the shortcut move correctly, you skip the second command entirely. Hereís how:

First, save your game when the scene starts in case you miss the move. Then, after you press to walk up the stairs, before the Giddy Goons appear at the top of the staircase, press . This will bypass the Goons appearing, thus ending the scene.

The picture below shows the last possible moment you can press before the Giddy Goons appear at the top of the stairs. If you miss this opportunity, just reload the scene.

Note: This can only be done on Easy mode since itís required that you press on the stairs on Hard mode, in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode.

Note II: Skipping this one move does not affect the scoring if you are going for "Lair King", as the command you normally press after you press on the stairs doesnít award you any points. Pressing instead of awards you with the same amount of points.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.




Going Down - 10
Got off on the 9th floor of the falling platform.

First, when you first recognize this scene (you will see Dirk from behind jump off a circular stone staircase into a dark doorway), save the game. Then, let the platform fall to the 3rd ledge. Do not jump on it. If the scene continues and goes to a 4th, 5th and 6th ledge, youíre fine. Just let it go down to the 9th ledge them jump off by pressing in the direction of the ledge (as soon as the platform stops) and the achievement will unlock.

If this scene is the short one (only three ledges) and it crashes into the floor after the 3rd ledge, just quit the game and reload (resume) your save and jump off at the 3rd ledge. Chances are that early on in the game it will only be the three ledges. The game will eventually have the scene where there are nine ledges (twice, actually. This scene is mirrored). Just remember to save at the beginning of the scene!

If you are going for "Lair King", you have to jump off at the last possible ledge (points are not awarded if you jump onto any ledge other than the 3rd or 9th one), so make sure that you save at the beginning of the scene to see if it is the 3- or 9-ledge scene. Then jump off at the appropriate ledge for the maximum amount of points.

You can unlock this in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Lair King - 20
Got a high score of 427,469 (Controller Mode).

The game automatically sets your lives to "5". Start the game on Easy/Arcade. This only works on the Easy difficulty playing Arcade mode. (Hard difficulty is missing one point-awarding move [the first whirlpool in the Raging Waters scene], so you canít get a perfect score playing on Hard. Home mode is also missing the first 49 points awarded in the game [most likely it will be the Crumbing Vestibule scene]). It doesn't matter if the move guide, move beeps or the arcade monitor is on or off.

One word about the Falling Circular Platform scenes; there are four different versions of this scene (a 3-ledge and a 9-ledge, each mirrored/reversed, making four scenes). To get a perfect score, you must jump off the platform at the last possible ledge (either 3 ledges or 9 ledges) to get the maximum amount of points. Use the strategy described in "Going Down" to see which scene you are on.

Another note about one other scene that could screw up your score: the Snake / Mist Room. The correct moves (according to the move guide) are , , and . You can bypass the third input and press instead, but you will miss out on 49 points (which is necessary for this achievement). So, when you get to this scene (the one with the red/black/white snakes), make sure you input FOUR moves, not three.

Save at the beginning of every single scene, so in case you die, you can just reload that save. You have to make it to the dragon's lair without dying.

You shouldnít have died at all by the time you reach the dragonís lair. When you do reach it, you should have 288,494 points, and when Dirk says "Wow", it quickly adds another 49 points to your score (for starting the scene, making your score 288,543). Many people think that you reach the dragonís lair with 288,543 points, which is false. The points get added very quickly so it seems that you start the scene with that amount of points. If you have less than 288,543 points after Dirk says "Wow", then you wonít get this achievement. Save your game at this point if you have the required points.

Play through the scene as normal, inputting the correct moves. When you get to the final move (pressing to kill the dragon), donít press it. Purposely let the dragon kill you. Do this a total of four times. Save your game each time you start the scene with one less life. On your last life, kill the dragon. If you die a fifth time, simply reload the save and repeat the final life.
  • When you reach the Dragon's Lair for the first time, at the very beginning right after Dirk says "Wow", you should have 288,543 points (5 lives left). Save the game.
  • After your first death, after Dirk says "Wow", you should have 315,338 (4 lives left). Save the game.
  • After your second death, after Dirk says "Wow", you should have 342,133 (3 lives left). Save the game.
  • After your third death, after Dirk says "Wow", you should have 368,928 (2 lives left). Save the game.
  • After your fourth (final) death, after Dirk says "Wow", you should have 395,723 (1 life left). Save the game.
  • On your final life, when you defeat Singe, you should have 427,469 points and the achievement.
The reason for this is when you die, you start the scene over again, and you accumulate all the points again up until you are to slay the dragon (which in itself is worth 5,000 points). If you were to kill the dragon with all five lives left, you would end the game with only 320,289 points. On each of your four lives, you get an additional 26,795 points (for all moves excluding 5,000 for slaying the dragon), so 26,795 times 4 (lives) equals 107,180, plus 320,289 equals the top score of 427,469.

If you saved your game when you reached the dragonís lair (with the appropriate score), play through it without dying and slay the dragon to unlock "Flawless". Then, just reload the save and do what is explained above for this achievement. That way, you only need one playthrough on Easy for the entire game.

You can earn this achievement only by using a controller.

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Flawless - 10
Completed the game with five lives.

The game automatically sets your lives to "5". Start the game on Easy. You can play in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode. This achievement requires you to not die for the entire game.

This achievement will be difficult at first since you won’t know the moves for each scene. A good suggestion is if you successfully clear a scene, pause the game and write down what you did. Or you can use the walkthrough posted here. When you’ve played the game a few times, you will have memorized most of the scenes. The more difficult ones will be the scenes that only show up later in the game (since you won’t be playing those as much).

My advice is to save at the beginning of each scene so if you die, you can just reload the game.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Quest Complete - 30
Completed the game in Hard mode.

Start the game on Hard. You can play in either Arcade or Home mode. Then just complete the game (kill the dragon) before you run out of lives.

Difficulties do not stack (as there is no achievement for completing the game on Easy), so you must play through the game at least twice so you can unlock "Lair King" on Easy. You cannot unlock "Lair King" if you play on this difficulty (Hard mode is missing one point-awarding move [the first whirlpool in the Raging Waters scene], so you can’t get a perfect score).

This achievement can still be unlocked if you lose all your lives and choose to continue playing the game.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Date with Daphne - 30
Played Dragon’s Lair on its anniversary: June 19

Simply play the game on June 19th, doesn’t matter what year. You can unlock this in any of your playthroughs, but to avoid more playthroughs, unlock this while going for all the Easy playthrough achievements (see Roadmap). You can play in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode.

Or, you can disconnect from Xbox Live and change the date. With the console off, unplug your ethernet cord then power the console on. Sign your profile in, then go to "Settings" ('blade' all the way to the right) and choose "System", then "Console Settings", and finally "Clock" and switch the date of your console to June 19th. Staying offline, start playing a game and the achievement should unlock immediately. However, using Kinect requires you to be online, so this method will only work if you are using a controller to play.

Note: Changing the date to 6/19 on the East Coast of the USA will unlock this achievement. Based on different time zones in the world, you may have to set the date to either a day before or after 6/19 for the achievement to unlock.

Please note that this achievement is based on the GMT +0 time zone, not your local time, so playing it at any time on June 19th may not unlock the achievement. Please read the thread that explains unlocking this achievement here.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller (off or online) or Kinect (online only on the actual date, as using Kinect requires you to be signed into Xbox Live).


1983 Mode - 20
Completed the game with the move guide turned off.

At the main menu, go to Help & Options > Settings > Move Guide and select "Off". Start the game on Easy. Then just complete the game (kill the dragon) before you run out of lives. You can play in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode.

This achievement can still be unlocked if you lose all your lives and choose to continue playing the game.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Save Me! - 10
Completed the game with a controller

Start the game on Easy. Then just complete the game (kill the dragon) before you run out of lives. Make sure you are using a controller instead of Kinect. You can play in either Arcade or Home mode, but if you are going for "Lair King", it must be done in Arcade mode.

This achievement can still be unlocked if you lose all your lives and choose to continue playing the game.

You can earn this achievement only by using a controller.



Secret Achievements

One More Quarter - 10
Played with the Arcade monitor on.

'Arcade Monitor' is a setting Help & Options menu. With this enabled, you play the game in SD (standard definition) with the arcade cabinet surrounding the screen.

At the main menu:
  • Help & Options > Settings
  • Select "Arcade Monitor" and press to select "On"
  • Start any game and the achievement will unlock.
You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.


Bumbling Knight - 10
Never made a correct move in a new game (Controller Mode).

This is very simple to unlock. Start a new game in Home mode and purposely press the wrong direction to kill yourself. This way, the same scene keeps repeating. Remember never to make a correct move; just make the wrong move five times in a row.

After you die five times, do not continue the game. Let the counter reach 0. This will unlock both the achievement and an Avatar award (the purple Castle t-shirt).

You can earn this achievement only by using a controller.

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Change Log

5/18:
  • Achievement Guide and Roadmap posted.
  • General solution edits and updates.

5/21:
  • Added buttons (instead of written move directions).
  • Updated "Lair King" about missing points in the Snake / Mist Room.

5/22:
  • General solution edits.
  • Updated "Date with Daphne" to reflect that Kinect has to be used online, thus you can't change your console date.
6/5:
  • General edits in the roadmap.
  • General solution updates.
6/25:
  • Guide and roadmap submitted.

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Guide is posted. If anyone has any comments, suggestions or feedback, it is certainly welcome! Let me know what you think.

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"-Extra equipment needed?: Kinect "

Isn't that dusty peripherial optional? The secret achievements don't require it.
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Isn't that dusty peripherial optional? The secret achievements don't require it.
Noted and changed. I wrote this with the anticipation that Kinect would be needed. Thank goodness it isn't.
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Are there certain runs that you simply cannot earn Lair King on (whilst still on Easy difficulty, I mean)? I've not died and made sure to go to the final floor in each elevator scene using reloads, but I'm only at 245,403 points after the "wow" in Singe's area- not sure where I went wrong.

Edit: carried on and killed myself 4 times at the final sword action, ending up with a total score of 384,280 when I killed Singe- I'm guessing some mirrored rooms must have been omitted to miss out on 40k? I used the Home game mode, Easy difficulty, and picked up the Giddy Gone achievement during the run.

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Are there certain runs that you simply cannot earn Lair King on (whilst still on Easy difficulty, I mean)? I've not died and made sure to go to the final floor in each elevator scene using reloads, but I'm only at 245,403 points after the "wow" in Singe's area- not sure where I went wrong.

Edit: carried on and killed myself 4 times at the final sword action, ending up with a total score of 384,280 when I killed Singe- I'm guessing some mirrored rooms must have been omitted to miss out on 40k? I used the Home game mode, Easy difficulty, and picked up the Giddy Gone achievement during the run.
Hmm, all I can say is to try it in Arcade mode on Easy instead of Home mode. I haven't played it all the way though (I was late for work this morning since I was so excited to play it, however brief a time it was) yet so I can't comment if scenes are missing from Home that aren't in Arcade. I do know, however, that Arcade mode is a faithful representation of the original cabinet game. Give it a try. I will also try it tonight and report back.

There are 30 scenes (31 if you count the 3-ledge and 9-ledge platforms separately). 9 of those scenes are mirrored (again, if you count the two ledges separately), so the total scenes you have to complete is 40.

The "Giddy Gone" achievement shouldn't screw up your points because you get points for either pressing Sword or moving Up (instead of Sword). If you press Sword then move Up, you do not get points for that final Up movement. It's either or, not both moves, that give you points. I know this because I saved the game when the scene loaded and kept reloading it to test the theory. You get the same amount of points whether you do three or four moves.


EDIT: It has been confirmed by ponypo that you must play in Arcade mode to unlock "Lair King", not Home mode.

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Fantastic guide. Really very well written. Thanks loads. I've been tempted to buy this and with such a thorough guide out already, I'm sold. Excellent stuff.
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Thanks a lot. I've been writing this guide (and walkthrough) on and off since the game was announced, and was just waiting until release day to post it. I tried to be as thorough as possible, even if it is a relatively simple arcade title. This is probably my favorite game of all time, and it was my honor to write a guide for it.
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Bumbling Knight is not unlocking for me. I started up a new game in home mode and purposely pushed a direction instead of attack after falling through the bridge, dying all 5 times. It didn't unlock so I just let the game play through 5 times, dying without reacting. It still didn't unlock. I tried continuing and letting the timer run out at the game over screen.

That achievement also unlocks a Dragon's Lair T-Shirt avatar award btw.

edit: I just tried again and got it to work. It's possible that one of those times in my first attempt that I failed to hit the wrong direction in time. I also chose to return to the main menu instead of letting the countdown hit 0. I'm guessing that it was the former that was the difference though. You may want to edit the instructions to remove the part about not making any moves at all.

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Bumbling Knight is not unlocking for me. I started up a new game in home mode and purposely pushed a direction instead of attack after falling through the bridge, dying all 5 times. It didn't unlock so I just let the game play through 5 times, dying without reacting. It still didn't unlock. I tried continuing and letting the timer run out at the game over screen.

That achievement also unlocks a Dragon's Lair Castle T-Shirt avatar award btw.

edit: I just tried again and got it to work. It's possible that one of those times in my first attempt that I failed to hit the wrong direction in time. I also chose to return to the main menu instead of letting the countdown hit 0. I'm guessing that it was the former that was the difference though. You may want to edit the instructions to remove the part about not making any moves at all.
Thanks for checking. I've edited the guide and removed the no-move reference. When I get home tonight I'll test it in both Arcade and Home modes and on both difficulties.

I've also edited it to say "Controller Mode". The details are revealed on Trueachievements and the description says, "Never made a correct move in a new game. (Controller Mode)".

I'm so glad that using Kinect for this game is utterly pointless.


EDIT: I've verified with multiple profiles trying every combination of difficulties and modes, moves and no moves, and you must make an incorrect moves for this to unlock (instead of no move). I've edited the solution to reflect this.

Thanks for the input.

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Never make a correct move in a new game.

This is very simple to unlock. Start a new game in Home mode and purposely press the wrong direction to kill yourself. This way, the same scene keeps repeating. Remember never to make a correct move; just make the wrong move five times in a row.

You can earn this achievement either using a controller or Kinect.
A minor edit is needed to include "Do Not Continue. Achievement unlocks , with Avatar Award, after Continue timer reaches 0".
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Bah some reason it wont add the last 49 points on the last life have to play it all again
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Excellent guide, got everything in my easy run apart from 1983 Mode and Lair King (think I bodged one of the falling platform sequences).

I've been told that Hard Mode just removes the guide so couldn't you earn 1983 Mode on your Hard playthrough or does it have to be actively turned off and done on easy
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Just unlocked "Lair King" I believe it is necessary to play in Arcade mode. I had been doing home and never got any points when Dirk said "Wow". Sure enough I was always 49 points short. Loaded up Arcade mode and it unlocked 1st try.
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Excellent guide, got everything in my easy run apart from 1983 Mode and Lair King (think I bodged one of the falling platform sequences).

I've been told that Hard Mode just removes the guide so couldn't you earn 1983 Mode on your Hard playthrough or does it have to be actively turned off and done on easy
You can still use the guide in Hard Mode, the only difference I noticed b/w Easy and Hard is that the latter had a few extra actions during the final battle (Pressing Up to jump piles of gold).

I got my 1983 mode in Easy Mode with the guide turned off via the options because of the extra actions in Hard Mode
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I also missed Lair King and was also playing on easy, home version. I will try arcade next and see if that makes up the lost points (I had 271k after the first wow in the final scene).
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Great guide though I had 288,494 and after he says Wow the extra points were not added.
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Great guide though I had 288,494 and after he says Wow the extra points were not added.
Just to confirm, you do need to play on ARCADE mode for this achievement. For some reason, the points are inconsistent in the HOME version. Just popped it no problem on easy arcade version.
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You can still use the guide in Hard Mode, the only difference I noticed b/w Easy and Hard is that the latter had a few extra actions during the final battle (Pressing Up to jump piles of gold).

I got my 1983 mode in Easy Mode with the guide turned off via the options because of the extra actions in Hard Mode
Yeah, there are a few scenes with added moves when playing on Hard (Lava Pits / Mud Men, the Giant Bat, the Black Knight on the Horse and the dragon's lair). Also, the first whirlpool in the Raging Waters scene is missing from Hard mode; don't know why. I've noted them in my walkthrough here.

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Just unlocked "Lair King" I believe it is necessary to play in Arcade mode. I had been doing home and never got any points when Dirk said "Wow". Sure enough I was always 49 points short. Loaded up Arcade mode and it unlocked 1st try.
Yeah, ponypo confirmed that you have to play in Arcade mode.


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Great guide though I had 288,494 and after he says Wow the extra points were not added.
Were you playing in Arcade or Home mode?


Thanks ponypo for verifying that you have to play in Arcade mode. I think there was a similar issue with the PS3 version of the game and it was resolved with having to play in Arcade, not Home. I've edited the guide accordingly.
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I have a question. To unlock "Quest Complete" (complete the game in Hard mode), does anyone know if that has to be done with just the 5 lives or can you continue if you run out? The way I read it, as long as you complete the game on Hard, no matter how, you should unlock the achievement.

It's the only one I have left and just don't feel like going through and saving every couple of scenes ("Lair King" and "Flawless" were a pain because I saved at the beginning of every scene in case I died. A 15 minute game took twice as long).
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Few tips that might Roadmap look a little better: Flip the bolds on the roadmap. Estimated Difficulty: 2/10. I'm not really sure why people have done it the opposite way. I understand many people do it this way and I may have even tried it before myself. I really think it would look better the other way

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