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Old 05-31-2012, 10:12 PM   #61
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From the little test i ran for the gold idol giving caxton the forgery will not get you the extra stock only the real idol will.

The only thing I've seen even worth making forgery out of yet is the wyrmkings ring you lose the paladins mantle he would give you later on but it isn't a very big loss.
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From the little test i ran for the gold idol giving caxton the forgery will not get you the extra stock only the real idol will.

The only thing I've seen even worth making forgery out of yet is the wyrmkings ring you lose the paladins mantle he would give you later on but it isn't a very big loss.
Theres honestly nothing worth forging. What forging is good for is quest items so you can share them with people. And even then, I dont know if thatll even work because sometimes when I give certain items to people, it goes through as a rock. So really forgery is just useless. Its good if you want to do all the quests over in following playthroughs, as you can just forge most of the quest items and hand them in right away without having to actually do the mission.
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What does giving gifts to people actually do? I have a few things to give to people but I can't find them.
Well there are achievements associated with it. Giving 50 gifts to people, and affinity levels.
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Guess you didn't read my whole post.
Yes I did.

Go back and read mine.


The game is programmed to make you wait. Certain criteria have to be met before he shows up again.

I was in the same boat as you...

To make matters worse... I heard the town crier... and it was a different guy!?!?!?!?

I left and did some other quests, came back to the city and found him at his regular post and talked him into leaving but covered his moving expenses so I remained a "thoughtful arisen".

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Theres honestly nothing worth forging. What forging is good for is quest items so you can share them with people. And even then, I dont know if thatll even work because sometimes when I give certain items to people, it goes through as a rock. So really forgery is just useless. Its good if you want to do all the quests over in following playthroughs, as you can just forge most of the quest items and hand them in right away without having to actually do the mission.
The wyrmking's ring is worth making a forgery of and handing in the fake and giving the real one to your magic user because it lowers casting time for whoever has it in their inventory.
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Okay is there any consequences for handing in the forged ring besides losing the paladin's mantle? I read in another topic that you should make copies of some papers you have to turn in for a quest?

If that's the case about the gold idol then who is the best to give it too? How about the silver, bronze, and cursed idols?

In the video it recommends handing in the forged gold idol for the quests like Idol Worship and Supplier's Demand. Is that not the case?

It's not covered in the video but also remember reading that you needed a certain quest from Caxton to be active while doing the Escort Duty quest in order to get the idol instead of a golden egg. What's the name of that quest?

Sorry for the redundant questions. I really want to play the game right now. Unfortunately a storm is raging outside my house. And the last thing I want is to risk playing and a random power outage to corrupt my 1 and only save game with over 50 hours invested in it.
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Okay is there any consequences for handing in the forged ring besides losing the paladin's mantle? I read in another topic that you should make copies of some papers you have to turn in for a quest?

If that's the case about the gold idol then who is the best to give it too? How about the silver, bronze, and cursed idols?

In the video it recommends handing in the forged gold idol for the quests like Idol Worship and Supplier's Demand. Is that not the case?

It's not covered in the video but also remember reading that you needed a certain quest from Caxton to be active while doing the Escort Duty quest in order to get the idol instead of a golden egg. What's the name of that quest?

Sorry for the redundant questions. I really want to play the game right now. Unfortunately a storm is raging outside my house. And the last thing I want is to risk playing and a random power outage to corrupt my 1 and only save game with over 50 hours invested in it.
handing in a forged golden idol will complete the quest, but you will NOT get the same weapons as you would have if you handed in the real idol. Forged idols have a value less than bronze. So you wont even be getting the weapons you would have if you handed in the bronze statue. It will be worse

No you dont have to have any other quest from Caxton to get the golden idol

Madeliene has more magical weapons and armor, and more daggers and bows if you hand in the gold idol. Caxton has a huge variety if of armor, more so heavy armor and swords.
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Yes I did.

Go back and read mine.


The game is programmed to make you wait. Certain criteria have to be met before he shows up again.

I was in the same boat as you...

To make matters worse... I heard the town crier... and it was a different guy!?!?!?!?

I left and did some other quests, came back to the city and found him at his regular post and talked him into leaving but covered his moving expenses so I remained a "thoughtful arisen".

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If you would've read my post, then you should've seen that I said that I was SLEEPING at the inn, meaning that when you do, it advances the time in the game. So if it's morning and I sleep till morning, then that's one day for gametime. I did it 7 or 8 times, meaning that the game would've definately advanced more than 1 to 2 days. I don't mind that the game has that in it, but after sleeping at the inn 7 to 8 times, he should've definitely shown up by then, because time advanced in the game by a lot. Gaming bugs aren't universal, and maybe it didn't happen to you, but that doesn't mean they can't happen, and guess what, since he never showed up after sleeping at the inn as many times as I did, I'm pretty sure it was a bug. Is it a big deal? No, because I give fournier the money, and it completed. Don't see what it's such a big deal.



Anyway, back to topic. Since Reynard is a factor is this trail quest that everyone is talking about, so I run around and try to find him now and complete 'Search Party' or should I wait until later? This is the last side quest according to the guide list on here before meeting the duke, and I would like to get as many as I can out of the way before I advance the 'story.'


BTW BloodGodAlucard, thanks for the link to that quest, and I didn't do anything different. However, I saw what I did not do. You have to talk to that girl and then she gives you the golden idol. That is not written on here or in the players guide, so I had no idea you had to do that. It's not like she had an indicator over her head or anything lol
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handing in a forged golden idol will complete the quest, but you will NOT get the same weapons as you would have if you handed in the real idol. Forged idols have a value less than bronze. So you wont even be getting the weapons you would have if you handed in the bronze statue. It will be worse

No you dont have to have any other quest from Caxton to get the golden idol

Madeliene has more magical weapons and armor, and more daggers and bows if you hand in the gold idol. Caxton has a huge variety if of armor, more so heavy armor and swords.
Thanks Flip. So since I'm a Sorcerer and my main pawn is a Warrior I should probably give Caxton the gold idol and Madeline the silver while also getting her affinity to the max. Is that right? What does the cursed idol actually do? I can't imagine it's anything good since it's cursed.

Also a question about affinity. I heard that whoever you have the max affinity with will be considered your romance/sacrifice at the end of the game. If so how does it work with multiple people maxed out? Because I ended up getting Valmiro's to max by doing the Dying from Curiosity quest. I even got the achievement from it.

The thing is, I REALLY don't want to be in a romance with a guy. Even though as far as I've seen that doesn't even seem to be a real part of the game. Romance I mean. At least I haven't heard about any sort of "Bioware-esque" courtship activities. Just wanted to be sure. I remember reading another guys post that Caxton was the one he raised affinity with and had an awkward embrace from him at the end.
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Anyway, back to topic. Since Reynard is a factor is this trail quest that everyone is talking about, so I run around and try to find him now and complete 'Search Party' or should I wait until later? This is the last side quest according to the guide list on here before meeting the duke, and I would like to get as many as I can out of the way before I advance the 'story.'


BTW BloodGodAlucard, thanks for the link to that quest, and I didn't do anything different. However, I saw what I did not do. You have to talk to that girl and then she gives you the golden idol. That is not written on here or in the players guide, so I had no idea you had to do that. It's not like she had an indicator over her head or anything lol
No problem I'm happy to help. And I think I will probably wait until I do the Trial quest to complete the one with Reynard personally. I've heard that he sells items that will swing the trial one way or another basically letting you choose the outcome. That sounds good to me and I don't think you have that option otherwise.
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Thanks Flip. So since I'm a Sorcerer and my main pawn is a Warrior I should probably give Caxton the gold idol and Madeline the silver while also getting her affinity to the max. Is that right? What does the cursed idol actually do? I can't imagine it's anything good since it's cursed.

Also a question about affinity. I heard that whoever you have the max affinity with will be considered your romance/sacrifice at the end of the game. If so how does it work with multiple people maxed out? Because I ended up getting Valmiro's to max by doing the Dying from Curiosity quest. I even got the achievement from it.

The thing is, I REALLY don't want to be in a romance with a guy. Even though as far as I've seen that doesn't even seem to be a real part of the game. Romance I mean. At least I haven't heard about any sort of "Bioware-esque" courtship activities. Just wanted to be sure. I remember reading another guys post that Caxton was the one he raised affinity with and had an awkward embrace from him at the end.
I really dont know how it works. I think it might be the first person you reach max affinity with. My buddy got max affinity with pretty much everyone in the game and at the end, the Inn keeper from gran soren met him at the end of the game, so now in his post game, he has no where to sleep in gran soren because the in keeper is at his house now. kind of funny.
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I really dont know how it works. I think it might be the first person you reach max affinity with. My buddy got max affinity with pretty much everyone in the game and at the end, the Inn keeper from gran soren met him at the end of the game, so now in his post game, he has no where to sleep in gran soren because the in keeper is at his house now. kind of funny.
Yeah that is kind of funny. If that's the case then looks like I'll be "embracing" Valmiro at the end of the game. Damn. :P I had hoped to get either Madeleine or the Duke's wife. I think it's his wife. The blond woman from some of the previews that makes fun of the weird hat the Arisen was wearing. Even Selene seemed pretty cool. I guess I'll try my luck and hope for the best.
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No problem I'm happy to help. And I think I will probably wait until I do the Trial quest to complete the one with Reynard personally. I've heard that he sells items that will swing the trial one way or another basically letting you choose the outcome. That sounds good to me and I don't think you have that option otherwise.
I'll just do that then. Now I'll go work on the last few board quests I can, and hopefully I can do them easily (not including bugle one lol)
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Help with ur dragon

i am a sword and shield guy have bin from start to finish how the hell do i kill the ur dragon its just so hard i am on play through 2 and level 66 sword damage 1476 health 2899 what am i doing wrong ??????
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I'll just do that then. Now I'll go work on the last few board quests I can, and hopefully I can do them easily (not including bugle one lol)
Yeah I'm trying to finish up one right now called A Lost Cause. And it lives up to the name. You have to find a snakeskin purse. It's a really rare drop that you get from farming Sulfur Saurians. I've tried this quest for a couple hours with no luck. This quest really has that JRPG feeling to it. With the whole grinding and hoping not to get screwed by the RNG. (Random Number Generator that sets up the odds of in game item drops.)
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Yeah I'm trying to finish up one right now called A Lost Cause. And it lives up to the name. You have to find a snakeskin purse. It's a really rare drop that you get from farming Sulfur Saurians. I've tried this quest for a couple hours with no luck. This quest really has that JRPG feeling to it. With the whole grinding and hoping not to get screwed by the RNG. (Random Number Generator that sets up the odds of in game item drops.)


just a bit of info ive found the snake skin purse in the same place twice in a chest location THE BLIGHTED MANSE in the sewer part
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Yeah I'm trying to finish up one right now called A Lost Cause. And it lives up to the name. You have to find a snakeskin purse. It's a really rare drop that you get from farming Sulfur Saurians. I've tried this quest for a couple hours with no luck. This quest really has that JRPG feeling to it. With the whole grinding and hoping not to get screwed by the RNG. (Random Number Generator that sets up the odds of in game item drops.)

I got lucky, and had one drop one lol... Look at it this way, they give you pretty good exp, and the other loot they drop sell for decent gold.
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Thanks for the tip BloodyVanish. I haven't been able to explore that location yet since you need a quest to get in there I believe. Hopefully I'll get it there. I also heard you can get on in Soulflayer Canyon. But I scoured that place for about 2 hours searching every area and didn't see it. Then again, I do remember it saying that it was in a pool of fish. I probably overlooked it. But if you found it twice in the Blighted Manse sewers then I'll just wait until I get to that point in the game instead of grinding for it.

Good point Celtic. It's not like the time was wasted. I did level up a couple times.
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just to let u no u get that mission if u do two things one u get asked to meet lady aelinore from a made called mirabelle in the front of the dukes castle after meeting her save her from the duke then carry on doing missions as the second part does not apear till the duke opens the treasure room when he does pop out side again and mirabelle will give ua quest called Duchess in distress then this will lead u to the place were i got mine from all so u will get a achievement for doing this quest
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just to let u no u get that mission if u do two things one u get asked to meet lady aelinore from a made called mirabelle in the front of the dukes castle after meeting her save her from the duke then carry on doing missions as the second part does not apear till the duke opens the treasure room when he does pop out side again and mirabelle will give ua quest called Duchess in distress then this will lead u to the place were i got mine from all so u will get a achievement for doing this quest
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Also for the Thick as Thieves quest I can't talk to Ophis as she attack me. I wear lady's clothes and have 3 female pawns and never killed the cyclops. The other female bandits won't attack ne either until I reach Ophis. I did recall that a long while ago I attacked the camp and killed every one in it. Is there a way I can still complete it?
I've been unable to find a suitable answer for this anywhere on the net. However, I did come across an idea that it was perhaps a trigger glitch. In that, if you travelled to Heavenspeak Fort and opened the gate (likely killing Orphis in the process?) -- it will remain glitched until a future NG+. I'm currently needing Thick as Thieves for the meta, The Hero. Kind of a bummer, but frankly I'm so fond of this game, it's flaws are easily overlooked.

EDIT: For the record, I am attempting this on my first NG+. I had travelled there and killed the female bandits prior to feeding the Cyclops. I initially fed him in drag as my character was male, noticed Orphis was hostile in spite of being told to talk to her -- so I exited the game without saving, changed my character to a female (via the permanent Scroll of Meta.). Same results, I'm afraid. I'm going to go and kill the Cyclops and see if that will open another option for completing Thick as Thieves.

EDIT (pt. 2): No, it does not -- you will fail the quest. I'm afraid the trigger glitch is as previously described. I'll have to be more mindful of my steps in the second NG+.

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If you would've read my post, then you should've seen that I said that I was SLEEPING at the inn, meaning that when you do, it advances the time in the game. So if it's morning and I sleep till morning, then that's one day for gametime. I did it 7 or 8 times, meaning that the game would've definately advanced more than 1 to 2 days. I don't mind that the game has that in it, but after sleeping at the inn 7 to 8 times, he should've definitely shown up by then, because time advanced in the game by a lot.

Don't see what it's such a big deal.
I'm simply pointing out that youy hadn't satisfied all the requirements to advance the quest.

Simply advancing time is not enough.

This game is sly like that.

In an age where we're used to getting whatever information we desire in an instant from the internet that has got to be driving some people absolutely batty.

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Doing the Trials and Tribulations quest and was wondering how to get the guy in windblowtower to come with me, he just stands there also what is the best outcome for him being guilty or not also I went to the first town to get some witness to come with me but I forgot if he wants him guilty or innocent.
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Doing the Trials and Tribulations quest and was wondering how to get the guy in windblowtower to come with me, he just stands there also what is the best outcome for him being guilty or not also I went to the first town to get some witness to come with me but I forgot if he wants him guilty or innocent.
they dont follow you, they just give you a petition for fournival
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they dont follow you, they just give you a petition for fournival
That guy in the tower place did not give me anything but just stands there with the red quest on his head also the guy in the first town followed me to the main city as a witness to the trial.
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Regarding the quest Deeper Trouble, How exactly do I trigger the activation of this quest as I have re-entered Cassardis multiple times, slept at the inn, visited Gran Soren (not started any quest or talk to anyone there yet) and it just won't appear. Perhaps I am doing something wrong or I may have missed it already but do please let me know. Thanks

Edit: Assuming Deep Trouble is the pre-requisite quest, I have already completed that
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Regarding the quest Deeper Trouble, How exactly do I trigger the activation of this quest as I have re-entered Cassardis multiple times, slept at the inn, visited Gran Soren (not started any quest or talk to anyone there yet) and it just won't appear. Perhaps I am doing something wrong or I may have missed it already but do please let me know. Thanks

Edit: Assuming Deep Trouble is the pre-requisite quest, I have already completed that
Hmmm it should have already popped up for you. Try just going down the well to see if hes there


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You or one of your pawns has to kill him
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:47 PM   #89
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Anyone knows where i can find Madeline after i helped her to escape from the guards in Gran Soren and shes leaving to open a new shop ?!?
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:50 PM   #90
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Anyone knows where i can find Madeline after i helped her to escape from the guards in Gran Soren and shes leaving to open a new shop ?!?
Im pretty sure shes gone dude. I ran into that same problem and I only found her again because she moved in with me at the end of the game. I couldnt find her until then
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