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Old 07-18-2012, 09:09 PM   #91
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There are 4 of us on http://www.trueachievements.com/100c...px?gameid=4403 so far. You could probably find a few more if you checked the leaderboards (looking at people with more than $500k). The achievements do seem utterly impossible when you start out, but they can be done. A few weeks of constant practice will do wonders.

Mind you, half the reason there are so "many" completions is because the game is such addictive fun. If a lesser game were this hard, you might not see any at all.

There are a few XBLA games that are tougher completions. Robotron, Battlezone, and Asteroids come to mind. But out of the 396 I've managed to complete, this one is probably the hardest. That ought to tell you something... And Jakez, that's why we're scoffing at your overconfidence.
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:00 PM   #92
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Yay, finally. Destroyed the whole City of Gold and running out of bombs at 488k. After that got some diamonds during Olmec battle. I'm glad money and speedrun achievements are done. Now will get a little break from this game. My current GOTY so far.


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Old 07-19-2012, 07:21 PM   #93
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Yay, finally. Destroyed the whole City of Gold and running out of bombs at 488k. After that got some diamonds during Olmec battle. I'm glad money and speedrun achievements are done. Now will get a little break from this game. My current GOTY so far.
Awesome, congrats! I'd be rather nervous going in to Olmec with under $500k...
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Old 07-19-2012, 07:33 PM   #94
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Awesome, congrats! I'd be rather nervous going in to Olmec with under $500k...
Thanks! I was nervous, especially after saw Anubis II there with his skeletons. Thankfully i was able to get few bombs from crate above Olmec and bombed the Anubis.
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Old 07-19-2012, 08:07 PM   #95
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If I didn't die in level 5-3 against a shopkeeper I could have got over 700k in level 5-4. I could try it again someday. o.o
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Old 07-19-2012, 09:40 PM   #96
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Pressure baby!

The one thing that people don't realize about the difficulty is the pressure cooker you are in when you make it deep into the game. Basically you have like 3-4 real good looks at the achievement you are going for in like 4 hours of gAmeplay. When I get to Olmec, I get all hot and the stomach drops... The stupid low scorer has caused me so much headache and I still haven't gotten it. I always get screwed in the most random way. Explosions with flying gold at the beginning of an ice cave, getting the block traps pushing mummy rubys at me....literally the list is endless.
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Old 07-19-2012, 10:17 PM   #97
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The stupid low scorer has caused me so much headache and I still haven't gotten it. I always get screwed in the most random way. Explosions with flying gold at the beginning of an ice cave, getting the block traps pushing mummy rubys at me....literally the list is endless.
Yeah this achievement requires pure luck. I tried few times and always get some little chunk of gold in Jungle. Some of them are well hidden and you almost always pick up them accidentally. Can't see myself getting this achievement anytime soon.
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:11 AM   #98
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Just got gone with low scorer and was a stupid monkey away from getting to hell the very next game. May go for the big money one next. Any tips on the preferred method by the ones who have gotten it? Do you do a terrorist run or just save for bombs. Is there any bomb reward from sacrificing so many damsels in one game? I think I have done 5 at most and remember getting like 6 or so health on the 4th.
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Old 07-20-2012, 08:44 AM   #99
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Just got gone with low scorer and was a stupid monkey away from getting to hell the very next game. May go for the big money one next. Any tips on the preferred method by the ones who have gotten it? Do you do a terrorist run or just save for bombs. Is there any bomb reward from sacrificing so many damsels in one game? I think I have done 5 at most and remember getting like 6 or so health on the 4th.
Killing shopkeepers usually nets you tons of bombs, especially in Black Market. Don't spend any of your money - steal all of the stuff.
From what i have read, the reward for sacrificing 4 alive damsels is 99 bombs.

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Old 07-21-2012, 01:04 AM   #100
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Killing shopkeepers usually nets you tons of bombs, especially in Black Market. Don't spend any of your money - steal all of the stuff.
From what i have read, the reward for sacrificing 4 alive damsels is 99 bombs.
Sadly, no. That was in the PC version only; it takes more luck with shops to hit high bomb totals now. As far as I can tell, the rewards are:
1 Damsel: random useful item that you don't have yet
2 Damsels: Kapala
Every 2 Damsels after that: 4-8 health

Note that 4 dead Shopkeepers/Yetis = 1 Damsel, and 2 live Yetis = 1 damsel. Not totally sure on the numbers (or how valuable other monsters are), but that's what I go by.

One trick I used for high gold totals was to open up the Shopkeeper vaults, kill the Shopkeeper and shoot open the chests, then wait for the Ghost to come and turn them into diamonds. You'll get $70k-$100k per vault, which helps a lot if you don't luck into very many bombs.

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Old 07-21-2012, 05:45 AM   #101
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Sadly, no. That was in the PC version only; it takes more luck with shops to hit high bomb totals now. As far as I can tell, the rewards are:
1 Damsel: random useful item that you don't have yet
2 Damsels: Kapala
Every 2 Damsels after that: 4-8 health
Ah, good to know that. Looks like now it's not worth to sacrifice more than two Damsels.
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Old 07-22-2012, 04:35 PM   #102
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I don't think there is something more frustrating in this game than going for Low Scorer achievement. Messed up two times during last boss today. Pretty much the last thing i have to do in the game (still didn't have co-op one, but compared to this will be cake walk). I hate luck based achievements like this one.

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Old 07-23-2012, 08:32 AM   #103
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Low scorer vs. Hell and Back

Just got done with the rest of the achievements. I second the fact that Low Scorer was the biggest bitch of them all. I literally died more times attempting to do that one than all the other ones combined...not even close. Although to Hell and Back was very difficult by any means, I feel more in control of the outcome. To put it in perspective, I completed it on my third journey to Hell whereas I probably made it to Olmec without gold around 10 times before winning.
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Old 07-24-2012, 11:13 AM   #104
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Got my 400G. Took me almost month playing only this game. What a ride was that!
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Old 07-24-2012, 03:50 PM   #105
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Got my 400G. Took me almost month playing only this game. What a ride was that!
Congrats dude! Any idea what the approximate time of completion would be? Need to add one for the guide.
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Old 07-24-2012, 05:58 PM   #106
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Got my 400G about two days ago and I would estimate around 60-80 hours. I died around 2500 times (1500 related to low scorer). This doesn't include coop deaths for the good teamwork...probably add another 50.
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Old 07-24-2012, 06:39 PM   #107
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My death counter is at 1579. Definitely take me well over 60hrs.
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Old 07-25-2012, 01:35 AM   #108
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I concur on low scorer being horrible, there is nothing worse than getting a load of good free equipment then standing on some hidden gold nugget and having to reset.

I have some tips for anyone going for this,

firstly, if you have access to a second controller then play in co-op get a friend to help or do it on your own. It is just more tedious on your own but you can manage by carrying the other character like a damsel and don't forget they can carry something while you carry them. Basically your goal is to get a free item and the kappala as soon as possible so keep an eye out for an altar, when you find one sacrifice the character with the lowest health and hopefully the damsel too and blow! kappala. Now you can milk the bad guys for health, and you have a helper ghost who can set off traps and blow badly placed gold/enemies out of the way.

Also you need to keep an eye out for events occurring at the beginning of levels, here are my favourites for this run,

Snake pit, always go for the mattock at the bottom as it is invaluable for this achievement, you have to make sure that you place your bomb wisely though as you don't want any gems or gold getting on the mattock. Try not to break it on the level you get it as it will become nearly indestructible after you have gone past one exit.
This is good because if you get to olmec with hardly any bombs you can just dig a hole instead.
It is best combined with the udjat eye or spectacles so you don't accidentally dig up any treasure, but if you do use the ghost to blow it away if you have one.

Dead are Restless, obviously a shotgun can help your cause greatly by blowing up the block under the gravestone marked ash but also keep an eye out for a vampire as killing him for his cape will make the ice levels a lot easier.

I sense a psychic prescience, if you already have a cape and you get this level i would just stay as you are, but if not then the jet pack behind the alien king is very useful. watch out for his force field as it reflects all projectiles.

Finally as i said before the mattock is probably the best item for this achievement as avoiding collecting gold in the olmec fight is annoying. I would say it is best to get there with a good few bombs or the mattock so you can freeze olmec off screen and dig/blow a hole carefully and then lead him in.

Hope this helps anyone
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Old 07-25-2012, 04:28 PM   #109
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No need to call me names, lets have a good discussion here. I would d-load the demo but i have no space on my hard drive (only a 20GB HD). The next time i go to a friends i'll get the trial. As for the money issue, i have enough obviously but i wont spend 1200 on a game unless i really like it.

you're acting like 400/400 is very hard, maybe it's because you're not good at the game?

Again i'm NOT bashing the game, just voicing my opinion.
Apologies for the name-calling, I had just finished a particularly frustrating run of the game and was a little outraged to see someone who'd never played it calling it "not that hard." It is a very difficult game. I beat it last night after about 1500 deaths but I might not ever beat it the hard way or beat the secret ending because it's just insane what they require you to do. Download the demo since you can play the first 4 levels forever and see how long it takes you to beat just those levels. Then realize that the game gets so much harder and the first 4 levels are actually easy in comparison. It's one of the better games I've played all year though, so I highly recommend buying the actual game.
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Old 07-27-2012, 08:08 PM   #110
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Oh my fucking god how much those SHOPKEEPERS PISS ME OFF! FUCK THEM! Everytime when I have nice bombs, they STILL fuck up my run. Someone said to shoot those keepers dead in the Black market, but when I shot them, the other shot me (the 2nd from further away) and I died D: .

I also let them kill themself but it took so long a ghost came and I died :C. Fuck why they have to jump like that GRRR.

What are the good ways to kill those fuckers? Sometimes I waste all my bombs because of them :C.

I wanna get the Shopkeeper kill achi, aka kill 10 shopkeepers.
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Old 07-28-2012, 10:55 AM   #111
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Man, okay, I guess Olmec sometimes feels like spamming out enemies like he's a fucking gatling gun... I had no idea that could happen and that just ruined a beautiful run where I had almost $400k, book of the dead, jetpack, shotgun, etc... Turned out to be pretty much impossible to get Olmec to drop by the door to Hell with literally constant enemies coming at me. Getting kinda tired of this game's shit.

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Someone said to shoot those keepers dead in the Black market, but when I shot them, the other shot me (the 2nd from further away) and I died D: .
Don't wait for the shopkeeper to enter your screen, or you'll have no time to react. The black market is a good example; when you know there's a 2nd shopkeeper behind the first one, just stand in the same spot and spam shots to the right.

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Old 07-28-2012, 01:10 PM   #112
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Man, okay, I guess Olmec sometimes feels like spamming out enemies like he's a fucking gatling gun... I had no idea that could happen and that just ruined a beautiful run where I had almost $400k, book of the dead, jetpack, shotgun, etc... Turned out to be pretty much impossible to get Olmec to drop by the door to Hell with literally constant enemies coming at me. Getting kinda tired of this game's shit.

Tell me about it! I ended up doing huge pit with mattock for Low Scorer achievement. Other methods didn't worked for me, because he throws 6+ enemies at me and i always pick up some gold. Really frustrating stuff.
That said, i didn't have any problems with him when i was going for Hell few times.
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Old 07-28-2012, 05:40 PM   #113
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Making it to Hell was one of the hardest things in the game. I'm probably going to be at low scorer for a while.
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Old 07-29-2012, 03:33 PM   #114
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Does he get killed even on offscreen too? I read something about a frozen region. Also does anyone know do the gold and other shiny things become diamonds too? Mine did not, even if the ghost went over them.
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Does he get killed even on offscreen too? I read something about a frozen region. Also does anyone know do the gold and other shiny things become diamonds too? Mine did not, even if the ghost went over them.
Only the red, blue and green gems become diamonds.
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Old 07-29-2012, 05:28 PM   #116
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Ah ok, thanks. I thought everything goes.
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Old 08-05-2012, 03:38 PM   #117
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Oh fuck, this game is so fucking frustrating. It's merciless. I just needed to vent that...
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Old 08-06-2012, 09:35 AM   #118
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Finally completed Low Scorer and thus the game... Overall very fun game and going for Hell and those achievements was equal parts fun and frustration, but man, Low Scorer was nothing but pure, hellish frustration. I really hate achievements that force you to play the game wrong to begin with, and the invisible gold in this game certainly didn't help any.

I was about to break every piece of furniture in my damn living room when I was five steps from the exit in Temple 4-3, and there was a tiny piece of gold hidden behind one of those eagle heads that's on certain floor tiles. Not to mention all the times there's been hidden gold in Jungle treetops or behind piles of snow in the Ice Caves. Must've had some 40-50 really good attempts ruined by invisible gold...
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