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Old 10-04-2012, 04:58 PM   #1
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Can we please get a trading sub-forum?

Instead of having that "fluster cluck" of a trading thread, can we not get a board within this board dedicated to trading? The search function doesn't work too great as it is, and trying to use it to find posts within a thread is even worse.

It would be easier to see from off what people are looking for and offering, than to search through a thread with 600+ posts, and in which some posts are just wall o texts (no offence guys).

I don't know who I could have sent this idea, to get it put forward, so went ahead and made a thread instead.
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People would still ignore it and just post in the main forum.
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People need to stop using the TRADING thread for just asking for free stuff! imo
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would be a decent idea, even if most ignore it. It would still make more sense. Even more so for people like me who only gets to view a handful of posts at a time and have to log off.
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Well we could always just give a sub-forum a trial run. If it works well, great, if it doesn't, oh well, just close it down. Though I couldn't see why people would still insist on using the thread, when you would have a much clearer and faster way of sharing trades amongst the forum.
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I just use the trading boards on the official gearbox BL2 forums. It is very quick to trade, and being able to search for thread titles helps too. It would be nice to see something like that here too.
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Between all of the GTs to choose from in both the trading thread and the co-op thread, not to mention all of the people posting in random threads, you should be able to find at least a few people to trade with....and eventually, at least one of them will have what you want. Then of course, there is the old fashioned method of making friends with some of the people that frequent the forum that talk about trading all the time.......And then there is the Gearbox forum as well.

I just don't see why this is so complicated for some people. The resources for trading are everywhere. Make a list of gamertags and start sending messages over Live.....you WILL find someone.
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Between all of the GTs to choose from in both the trading thread and the co-op thread, not to mention all of the people posting in random threads, you should be able to find at least a few people to trade with....and eventually, at least one of them will have what you want. Then of course, there is the old fashioned method of making friends with some of the people that frequent the forum that talk about trading all the time.......And then there is the Gearbox forum as well.

I just don't see why this is so complicated for some people. The resources for trading are everywhere. Make a list of gamertags and start sending messages over Live.....you WILL find someone.
I have never, as far as I can tell, had an issue with any Achievement Trading threads here from Halo to Assassin's Creed to TMNT on XBLA. There is always someone if you have the patience to the point that you don't need that achievement by the time you finish posting.
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I have never, as far as I can tell, had an issue with any Achievement Trading threads here from Halo to Assassin's Creed to TMNT on XBLA. There is always someone if you have the patience to the point that you don't need that achievement by the time you finish posting.
Just adding on to this.

I have made posts for games that would be considered "dead" and I still get a response within a few hours of posting.
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People need to stop using the TRADING thread for just asking for free stuff! imo
I like free stuff Now if only i could get a woman without paying for it. Haha
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Will just be a bunch of fucking dupers so whats the point?
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Will just be a bunch of fucking dupers so whats the point?
Cry more.

To the OP. Just go to the gearbox forums if you want to trade. Its much more organised and easier to trade with than this site.
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Cry more.

To the OP. Just go to the gearbox forums if you want to trade so much.
Pretty unnecessary and lacks being constructive.


Maybe if you have some good advice, you should use it. Otherwise, maybe you should keep the Holier Than Thou attitude to yourself or maybe actually contribute to the OP than just telling him "Just go here."

You might as well just tell him to Google his answer.
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People would still ignore it and just post in the main forum.
Not really.

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/fo...play.php?f=157

While there is a thread for it and all things would best go under there, as with usual "threads where everything of one subject goes," individual requests are easier to miss. Not everyone wants to look through 100s of pages rather than look at individual threads, it's much easier.

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Cry more.

To the OP. Just go to the gearbox forums if you want to trade so much.
How very constructive of you. Fucking jackass.
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While there is a thread for it and all things would best go under there, as with usual "threads where everything of one subject goes," individual requests are easier to miss. Not everyone wants to look through 100s of pages rather than look at individual threads, it's much easier.
All too true. Especially on the main site of the aforementioned title, the traffic would be double if not more than here. Here, it's somewhat tailored to a specific subject and again, the traffic is much lighter. Some threads on the Trading subject have pages beyond pages but there's a lot of the same posters who stick around to help from group to group.
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Pretty unnecessary and lacks being constructive.
Didn't mean it in in a bad way. Was just saying the Gearbox Forums work well for trading. That may have been worded wrong but I was only trying to help. Sorry
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Not really.

http://forums.gearboxsoftware.com/fo...play.php?f=157

How very constructive of you. Fucking jackass.
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Didn't mean it in in a bad way. Was just saying the Gearbox Forums work well for trading. That may have been worded wrong but I was only trying to help. Sorry


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So can I point out the "elephant in the room"?

It boils down to the same problems as it always does with the forums.
#1- Patience (or lack of)
#2- Instant Gratification (yes, hand in hand with #1)
#3- Users that don't know (or care) how these forums are utilized

I'm all for ideas to improve the site and to be debated by its members, but I think the issues above need to be remembered when having these discussions.

Those who have the patience and don't need instant gratification find the trading threads extremely useful. Those who are the opposite want something different. So isn't this specific issue already solved?
Have the time? Use the thread.
Don't have the time? Use the gearbox forum designed for trading.

Seems rather simple to me.

And for the record, those who claim not to have the time to sift through posts are full of crap. You're playing a game designed to last 50+ hours while other members of this site who are doing the same are taking time away from that game to help you and everyone else. And they get "flamed" more than anyone else when they get tired of answering the same exact question 50 times a day because (see#3) you don't know how or care to look for the answer (or help) you seek. So if they get a little chippy, it's understandable.
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So can I point out the "elephant in the room"?


Those who have the patience and don't need instant gratification find the trading threads extremely useful. Those who are the opposite want something different. So isn't this specific issue already solved?
Have the time? Use the thread.
Don't have the time? Use the gearbox forum designed for trading.

Seems rather simple to me.

And for the record, those who claim not to have the time to sift through posts are full of crap. You're playing a game designed to last 50+ hours while other members of this site who are doing the same are taking time away from that game to help you and everyone else. And they get "flamed" more than anyone else when they get tired of answering the same exact question 50 times a day because (see#3) you don't know how or care to look for the answer (or help) you seek. So if they get a little chippy, it's understandable.
Even more so - It's absolute bullshit for almost ANYONE on this site to say "They don't have the time" when majority of them are posting in multiple threads most of the day. I run a mailroom and have lots of downtime to surf the web but I'm obviously not at liberty to play games at the same time and do whatever I need to at my leisure.

Take the time away from flaming other members, posting repetitive memes and/or just quit being lazy all together. There actually is a Search Function that works well since it's word and even member username based. It's bound to break down your search to what you want within 10-15 minutes. Anyone here can spare that kind of time given the amount of time playing games, time you spend on the web (let alone here) total - and chances are they just want someone else to do it for them.
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yep and honestly who out there is such a dick that they don't just dupe weapons for people? It takes 2 minutes and you both have the item when you are done.

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So can I point out the "elephant in the room"?

It boils down to the same problems as it always does with the forums.
#1- Patience (or lack of)
#2- Instant Gratification (yes, hand in hand with #1)
#3- Users that don't know (or care) how these forums are utilized

I'm all for ideas to improve the site and to be debated by its members, but I think the issues above need to be remembered when having these discussions.

Those who have the patience and don't need instant gratification find the trading threads extremely useful. Those who are the opposite want something different. So isn't this specific issue already solved?
Have the time? Use the thread.
Don't have the time? Use the gearbox forum designed for trading.

Seems rather simple to me.

And for the record, those who claim not to have the time to sift through posts are full of crap. You're playing a game designed to last 50+ hours while other members of this site who are doing the same are taking time away from that game to help you and everyone else. And they get "flamed" more than anyone else when they get tired of answering the same exact question 50 times a day because (see#3) you don't know how or care to look for the answer (or help) you seek. So if they get a little chippy, it's understandable.
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yep and honestly who out there is such a dick that they don't just dupe weapons for people? It takes 2 minutes and you both have the item when you are done.
It's all in the way you ask. Having items duped for you is supposed to be a priviledge that you earn by building a history with the person and then asking respectfully......it's not some guaranteed right that people have just because they post on this website. If I got to know someone on this site, and eventually the topic came up, I would probably do it for them, however, that doesn't mean I am going to give an auto-yes to anyone that demands it like an asshole or begs for it the same way people begged for GOW3 character skins or liquid green skins. All of those duping demands add up, you know. Why should anyone waste time jumping in and out of all of these random peoples' games when most of them don't even bother doing anything in return for anyone else? The only people he has flat out denied were the ones that asked hastily or obnoxiously.

It's fucked up that anyone would even give him shit about this considering he has helped a shit-ton of people with this game. He isn't obligated to help every single person that throws a request his way. It's not his fault those people don't have the patience to get the items themselves or at least have resourceful people on their own friends list.
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It's all in the way you ask. Having items duped for you is supposed to be a priviledge that you earn by building a history with the person and then asking respectfully......it's not some guaranteed right that people have just because they post on this website. If I got to know someone on this site, and eventually the topic came up, I would probably do it for them, however, that doesn't mean I am going to give an auto-yes to anyone that demands it like an asshole or begs for it the same way people begged for GOW3 character skins or liquid green skins. All of those duping demands add up, you know. Why should anyone waste time jumping in and out of all of these random peoples' games when most of them don't even bother doing anything in return for anyone else? The only people he has flat out denied were the ones that asked hastily or obnoxiously.

It's fucked up that anyone would even give him shit about this considering he has helped a shit-ton of people with this game. He isn't obligated to help every single person that throws a request his way. It's not his fault those people don't have the patience to get the items themselves or at least have resourceful people on their own friends list.
Not trying to knock you but there isn't any rule or basis stating that duping weapons is meant to be a privilege due to history building. It's a nice gesture that's truthfully based solely on the person being asked or offering.

But i do agree that it's not a guaranteed right. They may come off like a dick but if someone doesn't want to dupe something for someone they don't know - They certainly don't have to.

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Not trying to knock you but there isn't any rule or basis stating that duping weapons is meant to be a privilege due to history building. It's a nice gesture that's truthfully based solely on the person being asked or offering.

But i do agree that it's not a guaranteed right. They may come off like a dick but if someone doesn't want to dupe something for someone they don't know - They certainly don't have to.

When it comes to "Helping out", i always offer something in return whether I'm being offered or asking for something.


"It never hurts to ask...but don't expect the answer you want."
I didn't say it was the site rule. I am speaking for myself and the person he is referring to. That is our opinion. We are both generous with those that have a rep this site for also being helpful....we are NOT to people who:

- Entire post history is mainly asking for shit
- have been dicks to us in the past (yeah, we remember)
- come across as whiny or demanding/'what have you done for me lately' mentality
- Hit and run members (I.E. 5 posts in 3 years; all of them in help/ach trading threads)

I think that is reasonable enough.
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I didn't say it was the site rule. I am speaking for myself and the person he is referring to. That is our opinion. We are both generous with those that have a rep this site for also being helpful....we are NOT to people who:

- Entire post history is mainly asking for shit
- have been dicks to us in the past (yeah, we remember)
- come across as whiny or demanding/'what have you done for me lately' mentality
- Hit and run members (I.E. 5 posts in 3 years; all of them in help/ach trading threads)

I think that is reasonable enough.

Understandable. I was just saying in general myself that I tend to help without needing anything in return. It's nice to offer but for me, it's not a necessity. All I ask for is that whoever asks, asks nicely. Common courtesy gets you farther than most ways of going about things IMHO.

But I do see where you're coming from and it's on the level.

I just recently helped some dude in Darksiders2 and he's either being hesitant or just not returning my shit and I was very generous with him.

BTW - Your signature GIF freaks the ever living out of me O.o
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