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Old 01-20-2013, 04:02 AM   #61
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Ok, so we have way more than we actually need for achievements in both the quirky and hard categories, so if anyone sees something that absolutely should not be there for whatever reason, speak up.

Possible reasons to remove the achievement:

It is glitchy
It is beyond what would be considered a reasonable level of difficulty (think things like "I Am Arthur Clarke or Wave 100 From Robotron 2084)
The game is not completable
The hard achievement can be easily glitched

And if you know of an achievement that really should be added, we can still get it on the list.
Already mentioned it, but... 21) Risk: Factions - Demon Child
It's listed under hard but can be boosted in under half an hour by quitting out after starting the game (I got it this way), and it can be glitchy and not want to unlock for some people (my boosting partner suffered this, couldn't even unlock it legitimately). And it's an EA game with empty lobbies, so good chance of seeing a shutdown...
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Already mentioned it, but... 21) Risk: Factions - Demon Child
It's listed under hard but can be boosted in under half an hour by quitting out after starting the game (I got it this way), and it can be glitchy and not want to unlock for some people (my boosting partner suffered this, couldn't even unlock it legitimately). And it's an EA game with empty lobbies, so good chance of seeing a shutdown...
Yeah... it's pretty much first on the chopping block. As much as I dislike the flak that EA gets for shutting down servers we don't want to have to try and find a new achievement to take its place for a while. Mostly since I don't think anyone knows what will happen when one game on either list becomes incompletable or gets pulled from the market.
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Shouldn't there technically be only one achievement per game? I'm not sure if anything was mentioned about this with the retail list but you could knock a few of those off if need be.

Also i don't think it matters if there is more than one game per series, they still come from two different games. (I say this because i have both the toy soldiers achievements)
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Shouldn't there technically be only one achievement per game? I'm not sure if anything was mentioned about this with the retail list but you could knock a few of those off if need be.

Also i don't think it matters if there is more than one game per series, they still come from two different games. (I say this because i have both the toy soldiers achievements)
I'm going to try and make sure that if there is more than one game from a series on the list, they are on different sides of it, like the hard Splosion man and the quirky MS Splosion Man. But yeah, there's only one achievement per game. If you have a preference for which one should be kept, let me know.
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Yeah... it's pretty much first on the chopping block. As much as I dislike the flak that EA gets for shutting down servers we don't want to have to try and find a new achievement to take its place for a while. Mostly since I don't think anyone knows what will happen when one game on either list becomes incompletable or gets pulled from the market.
Speaking of games getting pulled from the market, is there anyone on the forums that might have some knowledge regarding what games have temporary licensing deals? I recall a racing game (outrun?) getting pulled because of an expired license with Ferrari I believe. And then there's also been a handful of expired deals with marvel. Maybe a few others I'm not familiar with? Does anyone know what some of those might be going forward?
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Ok, so we have way more than we actually need for achievements in both the quirky and hard categories, so if anyone sees something that absolutely should not be there for whatever reason, speak up.

Possible reasons to remove the achievement:

It is glitchy
It is beyond what would be considered a reasonable level of difficulty (think things like "I Am Arthur Clarke or Wave 100 From Robotron 2084)
The game is not completable
The hard achievement can be easily glitched

And if you know of an achievement that really should be added, we can still get it on the list.
Mentioned in my previous post but N+ should be considered.
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Dude, N+ is hard, but far from unreasonable.
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Dude, N+ is hard, but far from unreasonable.
He'd mentioned in his previous post about the leaderboards being glitchy now causing some achievements not too unlock when they're supposed. I never experienced this, but it's been quite some time since I last played it...
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I've looked into N+ trying to figure out if the glitch is common or rare, and I'm not finding any information on it. What I am finding is that the autosave is not great on the game, so if you don't go back to the main menu you can lose progress very easily. It's definitely worth noting, but given that the game (apparently) warns you against not quitting properly, I'd lean towards keeping it, since the glitch could be a minor setback, not game breaking.
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I never had any problems with N+ out of all the time I spent with it(which was quite a bit)
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I've never known N+ to be glitchy so the achievement should stay. I myself have only completed about 25 episodes but the game has been fine in that period, the co-op ones are more annoying.
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Ok, just wanted to make this a little more open. These are the ones that are currently on the list that are likely going to be eliminated and why. If someone has another suggestion or a reason why the achievements listed should stay, speak now. I'll be getting the list together when I get off work today.

Hard achievements:
Red Alert 3: Commander's Challenge - King of the World
The guy who posted the rules said no EA games, then suggested an EA online game. It doesn't qualify under the current rules.

Risk: Factions - Demon Child
This is easily boosted

The War of the Worlds - I Am Arthur Clarke
This is probably over the level of difficulty that we should expect from even the best of gamers.

Earthworm Jim HD - Superhero!
It's already in the quirky category and we already have a few other speed runs on the list.

War World - Extreme Level 100 Completed
This game gave me the heebie jeebies. Pretty much every achievement but this one is not divisible by 5 and this one may be beyond the level of difficulty that we should expect from even the the best of gamers.

Puzzle Arcade - Beat the Bots
Given that there is no difficulty requirement for this achievement and there is an easy cheat, it really doesn't seem that hard.

Dust: An Elysian Tale - The Stuff of Legends
As much as I'm looking forward to playing this, no one really mentions the game being that hard. This may be a challenge compared to the erest of the game, but it isn't that hard, assuming you do it later in the game.

Feeding Frenzy - Complete Time Attack
I really want to include this game, but anyone who's played it knows that once you get passed level 5, the game is a breeze. You get so much bonus time that it's only the early levels that are hard.

Rayman 3 HD - Perfection Needs No Arms
This is another hard one, but it's also a challenge that is duplicated a few times.

Hardwood Hearts - Lunar Satellite
There seem to be a lot of ways to get this, including boosting.

Toy Soldiers - Sweet Fancy Adams
The game series is also in quirky. Series could be duplicated, but unless there is another suggestion, this one will get the axe.


Quirky achievements
Red Alert 3: Commander's Challenge - Going Commando
Same reason why the game is being removed from hard.

Undertow - Hydropwnage
The game is also in hard, with a legitimately hard achievement.

Uno - Bluff
Both Uno games are in quirky right now, and the other one seems to fit a little better.

Deadliest Warrior - That Was Sparta!
After seeing the amount of grinding required for this achievement, maybe it's a bit too annoying to be quirky. The same reference is in Mini Ninjas Adventures, so if we want it, it can come from there.

BloodRayne: Betrayal - 8 Fingers, 8 Bits
The game is already in hard with a legitimately hard achievement.

Banjo-Tooie - All Beaten Up
While the achievement has the potential to be quirky, it doesn't look like that many people do it the quirky way.

Torchlight - Only a Master of Evil
A great game, but the achievement itself is straight forward, and many other achievements have made the same reference.

Other possibility:
Watchmen: The End is Nigh Part 2 - Gentleman
The achievement is almost too much of a challenge to be quirky. Almost.
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Nice work, Capn Doug. Looks great to me.

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I think the list is solid enough, the ones that were taken out were just meant to be I guess. :P
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Okay, let's consider the list final. I need someone to email me the pics for the achievement tiles saved as crazy001.jpg, crazy002.jpg...crazy100.jpg in a zip file, sent to david dot creech at x360a dot org. They need to be in exactly the same order as listed above. I need this sooner rather than later so that I can get the pics uploaded onto the servers.

I also need links to the individual achievements on the front page added to Doug's posts of the achievements above.
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Okay, let's consider the list final. I need someone to email me the pics for the achievement tiles saved as crazy001.jpg, crazy002.jpg...crazy100.jpg in a zip file, sent to david dot creech at x360a dot org. They need to be in exactly the same order as listed above. I need this sooner rather than later so that I can get the pics uploaded onto the servers.

I also need links to the individual achievements on the front page added to Doug's posts of the achievements above.
Already done if you click the links, though I can send you the base links.

And that email is already on it's way.

Edit: Need to remember to hit that "submit post" button...
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Already done if you click the links, though I can send you the base links.

And that email is already on it's way.

Edit: Need to remember to hit that "submit post" button...
Awesome. Got the email, working on the images now.
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I won't have as many on this list as the Over Achiever one. Better get downloading some Arcade games then!
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One thing that might be helpful to people is to have a link to the marketplace for each game, allowing people to quickly download the game, as well as a link to the "how to obtain an overseas LIVE account" thread for our Australian users, since I think they are the only ones that cannot access everything.

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I won't have as many on this list as the Over Achiever one. Better get downloading some Arcade games then!

Same here, I actually have more than I thought (7) so I need to get on that Limbo/N+ thing seeing as I already own them but the achievements are a piss take.
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Old 01-22-2013, 07:35 PM   #83
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One thing that might be helpful to people is to have a link to the marketplace for each game, allowing people to quickly download the game, as well as a link to the "how to obtain an overseas LIVE account" thread for our Australian users, since I think they are the only ones that cannot access everything.

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That does sound like a good idea.
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One thing that might be helpful to people is to have a link to the marketplace for each game, allowing people to quickly download the game, as well as a link to the "how to obtain an overseas LIVE account" thread for our Australian users, since I think they are the only ones that cannot access everything.

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That does sound like a good idea.
Already sent off to Creech.

Oh, and crunched the numbers: It would cost you 38,000MSP to get all the games fro the hard achievements (assuming you could not find the compilation discs and did not do any deal of the weeks) and 42,800MSP for all the quirky achievements.

So 80,800MSP for the full 100 or over $1,000US just to be able to attempt to get the Diamond award. Needless to say, when an arcade crazy game goes on Deal of the Week, someone may want to point it out.
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Creech: I think I saw you mention that you were going to add this as DLC to the Over Achiever list. If you do that, is there a way to have a separate count so that we don't have to manually count each category? I know on checklists I've used, the DLC checks get counted in a main total only.
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It will be the same as any other DLC, so a combined total will show.
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I've looked into N+ trying to figure out if the glitch is common or rare, and I'm not finding any information on it. What I am finding is that the autosave is not great on the game, so if you don't go back to the main menu you can lose progress very easily. It's definitely worth noting, but given that the game (apparently) warns you against not quitting properly, I'd lean towards keeping it, since the glitch could be a minor setback, not game breaking.
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Maybe I'll re-download it then and see if I can get the last two I need then if none of you had problems with it.
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Maybe I'll re-download it then and see if I can get the last two I need then if none of you had problems with it.
I'll be further confirmation. I've got 200/200G and the only time I ran in to an issue was when I didn't quit out to the main menu after I had finished playing. When I exited straight to the dashboard from the game, I did lose my save.
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Good list...I don't have 90% of those games but still, good list
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