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Old 05-17-2010, 11:07 PM   #1
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Broly and Survival

Hi there. Lately I've been getting into Burst Limit's Survival mode (and getting my ass thoroughly kicked, of course) and I noticed on the leaderboards that a huge number of the top people used Broly. Could someone explain what's special about Broly for him to be that popular? Also some tips from those who have completed Survival would be sweet : )

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[Edit]: Managed to finally beat Default Survival today using Broly. On to Custom : )

My main attack combo: -> + Y (smash) followed immediately by a Heavy Smash and then the <- + B (Gigantic Press) move at full charge. Can't go wrong with that combo. The computer never dodged the Heavy Smash and very rarely (during the 70+ range) were able to teleport away from Gigantic Press. They can't block it like they'd normally be able to since they're stunned by the Heavy Smash.

[Edit 2]: Beat Custom Survival today using Broly with the aforementioned combo. One attempt : D Had a couple of close calls, but those were simply me being careless and too complacent when it looked like I had basically won the match. If there's one thing I've learned from playing Burst Limit Survival, it's that it's never over until it's over.

Good luck to everyone else still trying.

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Old 05-23-2010, 01:36 AM   #2
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Thanks a lot for the tips man... I've gotten knocked out in the 80's a couple of times using Vegeta and have been too frustrated to pick it back up, but I am going to give your strategy a try this week. Hopefully I can pull it off, and if not maybe I'll bug you for some more advice!
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Old 05-29-2010, 07:00 AM   #3
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I've been knocked out multiple times in the 70's, my Heavy Smash gets dodged too often... maybe I'm just not quick enough eh?
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:38 PM   #4
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I've been knocked out multiple times in the 70's, my Heavy Smash gets dodged too often... maybe I'm just not quick enough eh?
When you hit the opponent with the -> + Y smash attack, you have a split second where they're stunned and your Heavy Smash is undodgeable. As soon as Broly's smash move hits the enemy, press RT + Y to Heavy Smash (press them as soon as the move hits the opponent, not after it's finished), then immediately press <- + B while the Heavy Smash animation is still on-screen. Unless I was extraordinarily lucky to not have 200 opponents manage to dodge my Heavy Smashes even once, you need to be quick with the button presses, taking advantage of stun frames is key.

For Broly's -> + Y smash attack, to be clear, only the first hit is used in my combo. There are a few follow up strikes (if you continue pressing Y) where Broly stomps the enemy into the ground or something, those aren't used.

[Edit]: And to be even clearer, the -> + Y smash move must be performed when Broly is standing still.

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Old 05-31-2010, 12:34 AM   #5
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Thanks for the advice... I've now made it in to the 90's a couple of times, but if I mess up one combination it usually is enough for them to finish me with an endless stream of attacks!

Are you fully charging the ->+Y attack? I've been doing that, but not sure if that is the best strategy, as sometimes they can attack me when I'm charging it up. Also, I found that going into aura spark when available helped me out a lot, would you advise using it or not?
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Thanks for the advice... I've now made it in to the 90's a couple of times, but if I mess up one combination it usually is enough for them to finish me with an endless stream of attacks!

Are you fully charging the ->+Y attack? I've been doing that, but not sure if that is the best strategy, as sometimes they can attack me when I'm charging it up. Also, I found that going into aura spark when available helped me out a lot, would you advise using it or not?
For the smash attack, I always fully charge it. Yeah, as you get into the 70+ range, enemies will begin to occassionally try and interrupt the charge, but as someone else in this forum has mentioned before, the computer will typically guard when you're charging a smash attack since it's unsure when you will release it. If they do attack while you're charging it up, be prepared to teleport and evade then reposition yourself to try again. Making use of the RT + B force-field thing is very useful if an enemy manages to get you into a combo.

As for Aura Spark, I personally didn't use it, but if you're finding it helpful, by all means use it. Ki isn't really utilised with my strategy, Ultimates and Super attacks are never used, so there's plenty to make use of there.

Another very important point, if the opponent has a full Ki gauge (will happen if you don't lock them into Broly's combo until they're dead) and they're at a great distance, do not rush straight at them. Close in on them slowly and side step constantly. If you rush headlong, they will use their Ultimate on you, guaranteed.

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Old 08-30-2010, 07:10 AM   #7
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This is exactly what I was thinking for survival..because even if the enemy goes to use the aura to push you away the gigantic press isn't affected. I am gonna try this all the way next time..I made it up to 50 easily and have made it up to around 84 with vegeta..But this strat is solid considering Broly has perfect drama pieces as well as techniques..I would think of using Torrent of Ki, Protection 1 and senzu bean..what did you end up using?
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Old 01-27-2011, 11:35 AM   #8
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Decided to try and finally complete this game. I hope this Broly strategy works. Im just worried about if itll be effective in the later fights.
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I am so irritated. I have tried twice now and I get to the 85th fight and I lose. I'll never get the two Survival achievements... ;(
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Sup folks. I plan on uploading a video of the Broly combo to Youtube just as soon as I get my capture card. I'll also include demonstrations on how to deal with opponents that try to counter it and some tips for the 70+ brackets. Hopefully that will help out some people who are still struggling with this thing.
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Sup folks. I plan on uploading a video of the Broly combo to Youtube just as soon as I get my capture card. I'll also include demonstrations on how to deal with opponents that try to counter it and some tips for the 70+ brackets. Hopefully that will help out some people who are still struggling with this thing.
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AAAAAA!!!! I came to 91 and little Gohan bitch kicked my ass!
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AAAAAA!!!! I came to 91 and little Gohan bitch kicked my ass!
My advice is for that and for all the other "small" characters in the game. When using Broly never do the heavy smash against them unless flying cos it will completely miss. Do -> + Y (smash) and then do RT + <- + B (Gigantic Press) this still does major damage. Thanks for the tips DDShadow88 completed Default last night. And ranked 23 lol. It is doable, but if you fight Androids 17/18 in the 90s then will spam you with Ki blasts. Use Aura Spark and you should be fine. If they use Aura Spark, block until they finish. As they will spam, spam, spam. Gonna go for custom today.
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My advice is for that and for all the other "small" characters in the game. When using Broly never do the heavy smash against them unless flying cos it will completely miss.
Er, I did that combo on everyone, and the heavy smash never missed anybody, even Kid Gohan.
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Getting the game very soon. Survival easier then Dead or Alive 4's survival? Friend also told me Broly is a good pick for this, though would rather complete it with a different character.
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Er, I did that combo on everyone, and the heavy smash never missed anybody, even Kid Gohan.
Mine always missed against Krillin/Saibamen. Maybe they were playing nice against you.
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Getting the game very soon. Survival easier then Dead or Alive 4's survival? Friend also told me Broly is a good pick for this, though would rather complete it with a different character.
I've also tested Android 18 and Trunks with the "Broly Combo" and they both work just as well, though their smashes don't damage as much as Broly's from what I can tell. Android 18 especially is awesome, because her -> + Y smash attack leaps a huge distance, allowing you to stay nicely out of the CPU's melee range while you're charging it up.

I've never played Dead or Alive 4's Survival, so no idea how it measures up to BL's Survival, difficulty wise.

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Mine always missed against Krillin/Saibamen. Maybe they were playing nice against you.
Are you sure the Heavy Smashes were 'missing' or being 'dodged'? There is a distinction there. If you don't have the enemy CPU in stun frames, they will dodge the Heavy Smash, especially in the 70+ range.
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Dreading the day I go for these survival achievements, that's why I'm saving them for the last once I get Z Rank on all Z Chronicle stages under Z difficulty. I'm hoping once I have all the other achievements outside of Survival that I will be better prepared for it from a gameplay perspective.

I've used Broly in Z Chronicle mode and I simply do NOT like him. He's awkwardly big and it's difficult even hitting smaller fighters such as Kid Gohan, Krillin, and Saibamen. His 1st Ultimate requires you to be close to your opponent to do fair damage and his 2nd Ultimate is far to weak for my taste. Maybe it's because I'm not charging it enough but I know I need to give him a second try because I really only used him during his saga. I've always personally preferred Vegeta, Final Flash FTW but I'm still learning the game as far as "smarter A.I" is concerned.

I've completed the Survival Achievements for Dead or Alive 4 and they only took me several days of trying and using overpowered Hayate. It really wasn't all that bad, for me anyway. But THIS will be much worse I fear. Getting all the way into the 90's only to get KO'ed and have 2 hours of work poured down the drain. How daunting. I hate the fact that there's a loading screen(short though) between each win too which makes this even more time consuming.

Anyways, I'll come back here once I have everything else done(100% Drama Pieces, All Z Ranks, etc.) Maybe I'll have a more optimistic view of Survival Mode once I return. One hopes!

EDIT: Very helpful Broly method DD Shadow. I know my original post sorta took a stab at him but once you get the controls down you see how useful he can truly be. The +(charged) move then cancel immediately into your Smash(+) leaves the CPU wide open. Following up with +(Gigantic Press) makes for a great combination. May I add that once you have the CPU teetering from the Smash to charge the Gigantic Press whilst holding down as well which makes the combo even more rewarding. When holding down RT performing any Ki-blast type move it will make it Unblockable and Undodgeable so even if the CPU tries to guard it will still inflict damage. Only worry is them teleporting away from it or grabbing you while you try and hit certain moves.

Every fight is trivial until you reach the 70's this is where the CPU become offensive machines, particularly during Aura Spark so play defensively and wait for the Aura Spark to run out before activating yours and finishing them off. It's not as easy as you may think with the combo so it may take some experimenting until you figure out the A.I once you get into the 70-90's.

I wanted to use Vegeta in Survival because he's my favorite character from the anime but I think Broly may be a bit easier in tackling 100 straight wins in Survival. If you prefer Vegeta I say spam Final Flash, it's clearly broken and has so much range it's the perfect Ultimate. Try to stay defensive while you wait for your Ki to replenish then let out another Final Flash until they're dead. I will return with any extra info for Survival Mode if need it be. Thanks everyone.

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Are you sure the Heavy Smashes were 'missing' or being 'dodged'? There is a distinction there. If you don't have the enemy CPU in stun frames, they will dodge the Heavy Smash, especially in the 70+ range.
They missed. They were stunned and Broly's fist just misses their head. It doesn't matter anyway because I have done them. It always happened when I faced them two. It was a pain in +70 range. But I just changed your technique to fit them two. Thanks.
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Survival Guide to 100 wins

Just completed both Default and Custom Survival Modes with 100 wins using some methods mentioned by the original post and some learning experiences from losing here and there. I thought I may share some of the techniques I used for those that are still having trouble with Burst Limit's survival mode. I will pretty much state what has already been stated by previous posts above mine but I will go into greater detail. Just make sure you choose Broly's Gigantic Meteor Ultimate since it takes less Ki to get a full meter. And the Protection 1, Senzu Bean, and whatever other drama piece you prefer(anything that raises your Ki meter). Personally to me drama pieces aren't THAT important but they can save your life if you happen to make careless mistakes.

So basically this is how the Broly's Combo works assuming you are on the left side of the screen:

Broly Combo
1. Press and hold Toward your opponent()+. Broly will do a lunging lower punch to your opponent that can be canceled or comboed out of. This can be charged by pressing and holding + which is more effective since even if your opponent tries to side step you it can still connect.

2. The second it connects immediately cancel into his Heavy Smash with +, you can choose to fully charge this heavy smash by holding + down or just pressing it once. Doing a fully charged one results in more damage. I strongly recommend fully charging this in Aura Spark because it can skip over your opponents "Protection" drama pieces and end the fight faster.

3. Immediately after the Heavy Smash connects cancel once again into his Gigantic Press with Away from your opponent()+, Broly will do a green aura tackle and run your opponent over. This can also be fully charged by pressing and holding down + and can inflict seriously damage, usually 1000+ HP especially during Aura Spark.

Note: Interestingly the full Broly combo(all 3 steps) CAN be inputted very rapidly before it even comes out and the WHOLE thing will come out altogether without you having to press anything else but you must input it quickly.

Also don't think this will never get dodged, blocked, or countered because it can happen quite often in the 80's-100. Typically opponents will teleport away from it when they only have an ounce of red health left and defensive foes such as Android 16 will Ultimate Guard it. Don't let this stifle you. Continue your onslaught until they DON'T counter it and finish them off. If you happen to be in Aura Spark and your opponent teleports away from it and you end up on the other side of screen. Hit LB then LT to teleport punch them, it hits EVERY time.

To Aura Spark or not to Aura Spark?(LB)
With the Gigantic Meteor Ultimate selected it only takes 4 bars to get full Ki meter. Once full hit to power up and enter Aura Spark mode. In this mode Broly's attacks become extremely damaging and can end the fight in seconds. You don't always have to Aura Spark but I recommend it because there's so much to utilize in this mode such as vanishing attacks, Ultimate Move Attack (button mash mini game), unlimited Ultimate Guard and Ready Stance. Try to have your Ki meter full when going into the next fight if you can. If you don't then sneak in a quick throw move when the next fight starts to build your ki faster.

I recommend before the fight starts to get close to your opponent, tap block(A), and throw them(). Once they're on the ground enter Aura Spark and use the Broly combo. Should only need to do 2 full combos of them to finish the fight.

Throwing(RB)
This is an under-rated move. In fact, it's the first move I use before the fight begins because it builds Ki for Aura Spark and can interrupt the A.I's combos when they're trying to throttle you with punches and kicks. Whenever the A.I goes ape crazy on you and starts comboing you either use your Shield(RT+B) or tap A button like a mad man and hit throw at the same time. If you're lucky, you just may sneak a throw in!

Survival Opponents
Most people like to say that the 100 opponents that you face from Survival are random but I actually don't think it's that random. Usually the foes I would face would come in order of some sort of relation. For example after I beat Goku I would face his father Bardock. Or sometimes when facing Krillin his assist partner would be Android 18(his wife) and after defeating him I would face Android 18. Android 17 and 18 would usually follow after one another as well. The point is sometimes you can anticipate who you will fight before you even face them!Something to consider.

Anyways based on my records the "Z-difficulty" foes in Survival Mode, the ones who love to counter everything you throw at them and smother you with combos that dont seem to end, typically appear as the 8th foes of every 10 sets of enemies. Example: opponent #68, 78, 88, 98(these will appear as 67/100, 77/100, etc. on the loading screen). I usually lost to those ones so be cautious when going into those fights. At times, the 4th opponent can be annoying too but usually it's the 8th who is the "Z-difficulty" opponent so watch out because these are the ones that will dodge your smash and combo you relentlessly.

Opponents 1-77 are pretty trivial and easy to beat. You may only run into a fight or two will they will actually counter your combo. Opponent 68 and 78 can be annoying usually but I feel it depends on the person you're facing because there really are only a few truly annoying foes in Survival that I will mention so watch out for the following foes.

Android 18 and 17
Android 18 can be an absolute annoyance to face in the 60's-100 because she loves to counter and won't take her time in throwing combos all over you plus she has the Shocked drama piece which can give her extra time to change the tides of the fight. Best trick for beating her is to have an Aura Spark ready before you face her. If you don't then hope your Broly combo works against her until your Ki is fully charged, Aura Spark with LB and attack her with the combo relentlessly until she is down. If she ever gets her Aura Spark STAY AWAY from her until it dissipates. Ultimate guard with if you have Ki and once your Ki is back Aura Spark and finish her off by any means necessary. Android 17 is much easier but watch out because he likes to side-step and loves spamming ki blasts from range.

Saibamen
Annoying little rascals these guys. Plus there's a cutscene for every life bar which ruins the rhythm of the fight. The Broly combo works on these guys but its best to initiate it from a good distance so once you've killed the first Siabamen quickly back as far as you can before the cutscene for the next one to enter shows. The saibamen will usually crawl toward you setting you up for your combo. If you are ever close to these guys block and try to grab them. Don't take these guys for granted I have had many close calls with them and they can put lots of offensive pressure on you when close up.

Trunks
The son of Vegeta isn't what I would call "tough" to beat but he can surprise you. He has a "Here Goes!" drama piece that activates near death that gives him a full ki meter and next thing you know he hits his Ultimate. Be careful with Trunks in the 80s and 90s and see what he does first before mindlessly using your Broly combo. I have been 7 or less fights away from the 100 wins and TWICE been foiled by Trunks so be careful with him!

Yamcha
Overall should not be too much of a problem but facing him as the 8th opponent especially in the 80s or 90s can be dangerous. He will counter your smash effortlessly and sneak a Spirit Ball ultimate on you. I once teleported away from it and it STILL got me at fight 93. Attack him in Aura Spark until he's down for the count and play defensively at first because he counters practically everything at the beginning of the fight. If you want, have him walk into your combo instead of doing it to him hoping he wont counter it. And Ultimate Guard his Spirit Ball if he uses it. Don't try and dodge it!

Broly
Uh oh, mirror match! The thing about this fight is it can pretty much be a 50/50 shot at winning or losing if you let him get his Aura Spark, THAT'S how dangerous he is during that mode. I strongly suggest you have a full Ki meter before facing him to avoid having all your hard work poured down the drain. Broly is an absolute madman in Aura Spark he will counter EVERYTHING you throw at him and when he beats you it will leave you feeling violated. Try starting the fight off by getting close to him and mashing the heck out of RB to get a throw in. After that Aura Spark an do the Broly combo. He WILL counter your combo on high levels up until his "Torrent of Ki" drama piece activates, after that he's trivial to beat. I have known the "Z" Broly to typically appear at 68, 88, and 98. Broly can be the most difficult person to face in Aura Spark mode so finish him quickly before he does so to YOU. If he Aura Sparks RUN FOR YOUR LIFE. Don't even try to counter then attack him because he will counter that too. Counter and Guard and hope you're alive by the time his Aura runs out to finish him off.

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Survival Guide to 100 wins(Con't)

Piccolo
Not really THAT dangerous but he is a pretty good zoner so use the Throw move earlier on at your own risk because he will usually try to back off and go into his stretch arm combo. Learn his attacks and side step your way toward him. NEVER go directly for him. If he Aura Sparks avoid him like the plague as he can be pretty aggressive like Goku.

Frieza and Cell
These guys love to side step and will waste no time in transforming. At times they can be dangerous because like anybody in Survival they will spam you with Ki blasts and random combos. Either side step them from a distance or Ultimate Guard against them but only tap RT so that you can get your Ki meter up. If you're already in Aura Spark you need to be attacking them don't waste time. They're not really any true threat in Survival but keep in mind what they can be capable of.

Kid Gohan and Krillin
These two whipper snappers are short, stubby, and sometimes difficult to hit. For the record the Broly Combo DOES work on them but you really need to use your Toward+Y start up against them before Heavy Smashing into Gigantic Press. If you're paranoid of them dodging it then skip the Heavy Smash and do the Lunge Punch directly into Gigantic Press, it works just as good. These two also like to side step so charging down the Lunge Punch helps it connect easier. If it stlil misses then continuously hit Toward+Y until it connects and finish the combo from there until dead. Side step into them if you have to and sneak and throw in to finish them off.

Teen Gohan
Should actually never be a problem but is a wrecking machine in Aura Spark mode so NEVER EVER attack him if he gets in Aura Spark because he will spam the crap out of Heavy Smash. Aside from that he will fall for the Broly combo usually every time.

Ginyu
Had to sneak this guy in there. He is in no way a concern BUT to be safe, dispatch of him as quickly as possible because of his Body Switching technique. He hit it on me once but I was able to re-switch bodies and finish him off. Believe me you don't want that happening to you in later fights, it's scary. Luckily it happened to me in the 30s so I was okay.

Everybody else, Goku, Bardock, Vegeta, Nappa, Raditz, Recoome, Tien, etc. I really usually never had many issues with. That said, ANYBODY can be dangerous in Aura Spark so beating Survival is ALL about beating your opponents before they go into Aura Spark and then it's easy! There was another helpful guide for Survival that I found on trueachivements that you can visit by clicking HERE. At times, the difference between clearing Survival or losing near the end comes down to who you face and who you know or don't know how to beat regardless if you face them in the 90's or not(if that makes sense). Sometimes it may come down to getting lucky and facing "easy" characters in the 80s-90s. That's why it's important to keep trying because if you can make it to the 90s and lose then you're definitely capable of doing this!

Extra Tips
-Save this achievement for last that way you're more familiar with the fundamentals of DBZ: Burst Limit

-If you ever end up being a full distance away from your opponent and they are sitting there guarding. Don't fly straight for them, too risky! Instead, do a Gigantic Press to get to them faster. Or do a vanishing attack(aura spark mode only) by hitting LB then LT.

-Learn each character's drama piece and how it can be triggered. For example, Broly's "Hatred of Kakarot" or Trunks' "Here Goes", these can change the tide of the fight instantly. Also learn what each one does to avoid any surprising loses. Remember, what you don't know CAN hurt you in Burst Limit.

-Protection drama pieces triggering after hitting a Gigantic Press can be very annoying. So to skip these(most of the time) Hit a full Broly combo to get them down to a bar and a half of health, then the second time you go for it(make sure you're in Aura spark) do a FULLY charged Heavy Smash and then a FULLY charged Gigantic Press. This will skip the Protection drama piece cutscene and allow you to finish fights quicker.

-For me, once you get into the 70s-100 there are only really 3 "tricky" opponents per sets of 10. So 3 tough guys in the 70s, 3 tough guys in the 80s and maybe 4 tough guys in 90s. The rest are always trivial. And fight number 100 was always completely trivial to beat for me.

-Never give up! PM me if you need me to show you how its done. We can play an online player match and do a personal practice session.

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That's everything I can fit into two posts about Survival. I think it can pretty much be cleared with any character once you learn the proper strategies but it's much faster with Broly. Vegeta is also another good choice but Final Flash will be your main offensive weapon in that regard. It's not as easy as it may appear to be but it's not really terribly difficult either. It can seem like a near impossible achievement sometimes but it really isn't! Don't expect to get this on your first try even with the tricks because it takes some getting used to. You'll know exactly what to do after losing enough times when you get so close. It's really all about learning the psychology of each character, knowing what to expect, and going with it from there. The biggest thing that helped me finish these is to never give up. Don't get upset from your loses, use them as an opportunity to LEARN what not to do next. Take a break and come back to it later. Survival mode can take anywhere from 1.5-2 hours to complete. With enough persistence and luck you'll have those 100 wins before you know it.

If you ever need supplemental help with this achievement then simply PM me I should be able to answer right away. Hope this helps.

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Man I have to give serious props to FelizP and his strategy for Broly. I love how the two of us bounce ideas off each other on these forums and make our fighters easier to complete

Using his Broly combo as my standard (6Y full charge, tap R2+Y, tap 4B), I tore through both Survivals today (doing Custom on my first try no less) and finished as a global first on BOTH leaderboards (Default and Custom). This combo DESTROYS most opponents and 2 FelizBroly combos should be instant kill if not interrupted by a million drama pieces.

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Default: 22 minutes, 18 seconds
Custom: 24 minutes, 53 seconds

Characters I personally had some trouble with:

- Trunks: he is NEVER mentioned as a cumbersome character, but I hated running into him. He beat my ass multiple times on the higher levels and even the charge 6Y opener combo isn't a sure-fire way to beat him. His hitboxes get SEVERELY messed up when he pulls out his sword, so prepare to be missing a lot of hits unfairly.

- Krillin: probably my second biggest pet peeve. He is small and will sidestep like a m******, randomly using his Ultimate from time to time, which you can't avoid by sidestepping and the discs do a HUGE amount of damage. Blink and he will take you downtown like nobody's business. His confusion move (Solar flare?) makes things a lot harder. He got me with it once, only to combo into his Ultimate. That'll teach me for going head on with a 90-er in Aura Spark I guess. Ya live, ya learn.

- Android #17: nothing need be said here. He moves around ALL the time (the 6Y opener makes life a lot easier than the Broly combo other people recommend) and he isn't very keen on using his Ultimate. Instead he will be spamming the living hell out of ki specials. Seeing how the super bars fill up stupidly fast in this game, you'll soon understand you do NOT, I repeat NOT want to give this guy any space. Because he'll use it. To BARRAGE you with his alien mind bullets!

- Android #18: she has a really weird invincible counter/throw attack where she juggles you around in a huge combo, which will mess with your rhythm and make you think you're getting pummeled. Actually the damage isn't too bad. Basically, she is a somewhat easier version of 17. She moves around A LOT, but doesn't use ki specials nearly as much. Can be a huge pain in the higher levels though. She will also pull out at least 2 Drama Pieces, so don't get overly frustrated.

- Broly: he only just makes it in this list because 90% of the time he didn't pose a threat for me. But oh God, once he has his mind set to winning, this guy will give you trouble. Basically, you can only hope to hit him first. Sounds easy, but sometimes isn't. Usually you'll pound him with the standard combo though.

- Piccolo: arm... stretch... combo. Nuff said.

This is a list of ALL the characters I've actually lost to. So, as you can see, there is a considerable difference in AI or - if you will - resistance to this Broly strategy between the different characters. Other people to generally look out for are Goku and Ginyu (with 5 ki bars, I read about the dangers of the body switch so I always made sure to bait and block it when he got his super bar filled up).

That being said, these achievements are considerably overhyped and are nowhere near as bad as people say they are. I remember spending 5 straight days swearing over DOA4's Survival Mode and that puts things into perspective in a big way. The only problem is every attempt at this achievement is going to take a while. My record time of 22 minutes easily added up to a real-life 70-75 minutes, just for comparisons.

Some general tips:

- Don't try anything fancy. Even in the 40s the AI will pretty much block/dodge any normal attack/teleport/launcher/counter. There's a damn good reason why this strategy is so commonly used by people that want this achievement. It works, so stick to it.
- Ki block is your friend. Seriously. If the opponent tries to hit you with an Ultimate, don't try and dodge it. The sidestep mechanic in this game is too screwed up to even have a fair shot at it. If you have the ki (especially "free ki" when in Aura Spark): use it. Your bar recharges in a matter of seconds anyway.

Using this method, completing Survival Mode becomes more a matter of thinking on your feet (KI BLOCK WILL BE YOUR SALVATION!) and mental stamina than actual skill/prowess at this game. What seperates the men from the boys () with these achievements is the fact that you WILL lose in the 90's and waste 90 minutes time and time again. Once you get a decent strategy for your pet peeve characters in the higher levels, however, you'll get into the swing of things.

Stick to it and make sure to beat my time on the boards

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I beat both survival modes with Broly. Just keep a distance and utilise his Forward Y attack into the Heavy Smash, Gigantic slam combo.

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Sounds like something worth trying. i keep getting beaten in the high 70,s or 80's...
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On my ps3 i went through 85 wins several times with Tenhsinhan (spamming his neo kikoho which can touch three times the opponent when done right).

On xbox i've tried with Vegeta one time, but i've failed at 77 wins. And this mode is pissing me off. Sometimes you make stupid mistake because you have been doing the same thing for an hour and your are not concentrate like you should anymore...

So i will give a try to the Broly method, but just one. And after i will move on another achievement.
But i know that i will go berserk when i will lose in the 80's levels :S
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Survival Guide

I took this straight off a solution post from Trueachievements just in case somebody out there still needs help with these Survival Achievements using Broly. It's definitely the most helpful solution I found on the internet.

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This DBZ Burst Limit Survival Guide is basically an extension of Arcane Insanity's Broly method solution for the Custom Drama you can find on TA so credit also goes to him. I specifically made this Survival Guide a little bit easier to follow with less walls of text that most people don't like to read-but it's pretty much the same guide only a bit revamped with some specifications towards each opponent in DBZ Burst Limit as well as a slightly more straightforward way to do the Broly Method. Also I posted this because there were no solutions for this one, only the Custom Drama one. If you want, this achievement can also be earned with Vegeta by spamming his Final Flash Ultimate constantly while running away from the CPU waiting for it to recharge. Now onto the Broly Method:

Survival Mode Breakdown
So you pretty much have to do this achievement twice, once in Default which gives you Drama Pieces by default to use, and Custom that allows you to assign your own. That's literally the only difference. You must defeat 100 opponents in succession. Being KO'ed will result in a loss, a leaderboard rank, and thusly you having you start all over. Each Survival run will take roughly an hour using this method.

IMPORTANT: Broly must be unlocked in order to perform this method by Beating chapter 1 of the Broly Storyline in Z-Chronicles Mode.

Broly Combo
You'll be making use of Broly's Toward + Y attack where he leaps at the opponent and socks them followed by a fully charged RT + Y(hold down) Heavy Smash and afterwards a Gigantic Press(Away +B). There are 2 Variations of this move that you will be using depending on the opponent you face which is absolutely random. Listed below are the only 2 combo's you'll need for Survival Mode. The 1st one will be your "Sweeper" Broly Combo which is meant to end the match in around 10 seconds without you even being touched. It will take two of these to KO an opponent while in Aura Spark and is mainly used for characters with no particular drama pieces. The 2nd combo below is the same thing only without the Giga Press. You'll use the Heavy Smash combo for opponents with 2 or more drama pieces. It will allow you to avoid them from happening and you can skip them with this combo ending fights faster: Here they are:
  • Full Broly Combo(Sweeper): Toward + Y, RT+ Y(hold down until it comes out) then Away + B for Giga Press.
  • Heavy Smash Combo: Toward + Y then RT + Y(hold until it comes out) If they only have a few red health left over immediately cancel the smash into spamming Ki blasts with B to finish them off. Helps avoid Drama Pieces.
Important Notes
Before I go into the list of every character you face in Survival Mode. Let me first show you exactly how to do everything step by step:
Step 0: Go to Trial > Survival Mode > Default Drama from the main menu. Select Broly and Giganitc Meteor as his Ultimate. Because it only has 4 bars of Ki to fill it will be faster for you to get a full bar to Aura Spark. Your Ki meter will constantly recharge so long as you don't use up your ki. Press LB to Aura Spark once it's full. While in this mode, your attack power increases exponentially and the match can be over in 2 combos easily. You can also use Vanishing Attacks, Ready Stance, and free Ki blasts until the Aura Spark wears off but they are not usually necessary. Here's how most matches should work:
Step 1: As the fight is about to begin try to get close to your opponent and mash RB to throw them. This will help build meter and set you up for the combo as well. Mashing A along with RB helps just in case the CPU tries to attack you when you go to throw them-you will evade their attacks. I highly recommend you throw each opponent at the start if you can. If your Ki meter is full be sure to hit LB to go into Aura Spark then proceed to do the Broly Combo.
Step 2: Now press Toward them + Y-button to make Broly do a jumping punch to them. Once it connect immediately press and hold RT + Y until the Heavy Smash punch comes out and from there press Away + B to trample over them in a green wave of energy called the Giga Press.
Step 3: Once they get up repeat the combo again until they are knocked out.
Side Notes
The combo will work well into the 50s. Right around there the CPU will become slightly more aggressive and will likely teleport around while on the ground or even dodge some of your combo attacks. Just keep trying to combo them until they go down.
  • Once you reach the 70s-90s some of the Z-difficulty opponents will show up. I have even faced a few in the 50s and 60s but quite rarely. They appear at random but they are especially common in the 80s and 90s. They tend to dodge most of your attacks and counter just about anything. They can also be very aggressive offensively so use your RT + B shield attack if you find yourself in a flurry of punches.
  • Drama Pieces kick in throughout fights all the time. These are little cut-scenes(that cannot be skipped) that kick in during a fight that assist you or the opponent in different ways such as Increase Ki, Increase Health, Decrease Fatigue, Block an incoming attack, etc. Luckily with the Heavy Smash version fo the combo you should be able to avoid more than half the Drama Pieces that tend to pop up with the exception of the near death ones that you may still get. Just avoid using Giga Press and stick to fully charging the Heavy Smash until your opponent is dead. If facing opponents such as Kid Gohan, Teen Gohan, Captain Ginyu, Recoome, or Raditz go for the full Broly Sweeper Combo while in Aura Spark to finish the fight in 2 combos.
Z-difficulty Opponents and Strategy
As said before opponents that have Z-difficulty A.I will appear later throughout Survival Mode and they will do whatever it takes to ruin your long Survival run. These are the super aggressive opponents who will attack you like a maniac and counter any attempt of offense you throw at them. Here are some notes on how to deal with them best:
  • Depending on the Z-opponent you are facing you want to stay calm and make sure you fully charge the Toward + Y attack as well as the Heavy Smash. The CPU will not be able to guard it but they may evade it so be ready to press RT + B if this happens to gain some space and try again.
  • Sometimes the CPU will teleport away from your Giga Press and end up a full screen away from you or even right behind you which is dangerous. Some opponents like Andorid 17 love to spam Ki blasts and Power Up Blitz at you from distance. Quickly tap Up or Down and A to side step these. Or you can also Hold down RT for Ultimate Guard at the cost of some Ki meter. To get in close, use another Giga Press(Away +B) but beware of Ki blasts. You can also use LB then LT to Vanish attack them from behind, this move can only be used while in Aura Spark.
  • If you find yourself taking the fight into the air while in Aura Spark you can try going into a Vanishing Attack(LB then LT). This will start a Button Mashing mini game that takes around a full life bar from your opponent if you win it. Make use of this if they are low on health and becoming too annoying to finish off through normal means. I only recommend this if the opponent is quite a distance from you if not try to stick with the Broly combo.
  • Keep an eye out on your opponents Ki Meter. If it reaches MAX be ready to hold RT to block their Ultimates. If they Aura Spark absolutely do not try to attack them especially in the 80s-90s because you will fail everytime. Avoid them and play defensively until it runs out then capitalize back with the Broly combo. Mash A button to avoid close up attacks, Hold RT to block Ki blasts, RT + B to shield push foes away, etc.

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There is also a portion of the solution that goes into detail of each opponent from DBZ you face in Survival Mode and the most efective way to take them out. It also showed me what to be aware of when facing them if they were in their Z-difficulty versions.
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There are 21 different opponents in Survival Mode so you'll be facing quite a few of them more than once. Each opponent has a set difficulty assigned to them such as Normal, Hard, Very Hard, and Z. Each opponent also has a number of drama pieces equipped that can change the tides of the fight. It is important that you not use the Full Version of the Broly combo too often because the Giga Press tends to activate EVERY Partner Assist drama piece as well as others. This is why I provided the Heavy Smash variation as for some reason when spamming it some Drama Pieces will not activate. Drama Pieces give the CPU extra boosts as well as ruin the momentum of the fight- not to mention they take up time and are annoying. So you want to avoid them at all costs. Below is a general strategy for each warrior and some of their Drama Pieces you may want to avoid:

Android #16
Drama Pieces?: Yes
Straightforward fight. Android 16 is pretty solitary and mostly stands guarding the whole time. He should not pose much of a threat however he does like to use Ultimate Guard a lot so be sure to throw him with RB if he gets defensive up close. Use the Heavy Smash version of the combo on him to avoid his Partner drama piece from kicking in.

Android #17
Drama Pieces?: Yes
This fight can be very difficult as he loves to side-step. Android 17 is very evil if you face him at Z-difficulty. He will counter everything and spam Power Up Blitz at you from a distance. He has a Partner Taunt drama piece as well so Heavy Smash combo him if you prefer. Giga Pressing him will cause it to trigger so only use it to get in range. Avoid him if he’s ever in Aura Spark. Then follow up with the combo until he's down.


Android #18
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)
Can be a nightmare on Z and can possibly ruin lots of your runs but there is a trick to her. Never use your Giga Press on her. Simply go with Toward + Y into FULL charged Heavy Smash then repeat. She has a Partner & "Shocked" drama piece that you don't want interrupting your fight so never use Giga Press or else the drama piece will activate. So long as you can connect with those Heavy Smashes(she may even run into them) and avoid being hit into the air, this fight should be fairly easy.

Bardock
Drama Pieces?: No
You should be able to sweep Bardock in 2 Broly Combos(in Aura Spark) just like Gohan and Recoome. At Z-difficulty watch out for him and try to get him to fall into the combo as he is quite feisty.

Broly
Drama Pieces?: Yes(1) "Torrent of Ki"
Broly can in fact be swept, you just have to be quick enough to avoid his "Torrent of Ki" drama piece 12 seconds into the fight. Go for two full Broly Combos in Aura Spark and he should go down. On Z-difficulty he will counter quite but once Torrent of Ki activates he becomes more managable.

Captain Ginyu
Drama Pieces?: Yes(1)
Ginyu should pose no threat, so long as you avoid his Body Switch technique which rarely happens anyway. You can sweep him in 2 combos however be quick or his "Enough Messing Around" drama piece will kick in once he is on red health.

Cell
Drama Pieces?: No
Cell loves to side-step sometimes so if you notice him doing this try not to charge down the Toward + Y attack- just press it until it connects with Cell then perform the combo from there. He doesn’t have any annoying drama pieces so you should be able to sweep KO him in 2 combos while in Aura Spark.If you face him the 80s or 90s you may still be able to sweep him but beware of his side stepping and his Kamehameha waves he likes to spam.


Frieza
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2) "Partner Assist" & "Hidden "Power"
Not too bad of a fight, but Frieza also loves to side step so don't get to hasty in your attacks or you'll be left open. Try to avoid using your Giga Press on Frieza. Instead do the Heavy Smash version of the combo then go right back into the Toward + Y attack. This will skip Frieza's Partner Assist drama piece and maybe even Hidden Power if you drop him fast enough. Z-Frieza loves Deathbeam and does lots of jump attacks so have your RT + B move ready just in case.

Goku
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)
Watch out for Goku, similar to Piccolo they both like to throw you while you go for your combo. Goku’s throw will take the fight into the air and put you a good distance away from him so be sure to fully charge the Toward + Y attack to avoid being thrown. I wouldn’t recommend two Full Broly Combos against Goku as he has a Partner Taunt drama Piece so try sticking to the Heavy Smash version in this fight. Z-Goku can be very frustrating to deal with and he wont hesitate to Aura Spark so lay off him if he does and try to lure him into your Combo.

Kid Gohan
Drama Pieces?: No
A small hit-box character like Krillin and the Saibamen but you should be ok so long as he stays still and you fully charge each part of the Broly Combo. He does like to side step sometimes though. Kid Gohan can be easily swept in 2 full combos and you don't have to worry about any annoying Drama Pieces so long as you end the fight quickly enough. Watch out for the Z version of his because he'll Masenko you while going for the combo.


Krillin
Drama Pieces?: Yes
Another opponent who loves to side step so pace your Toward + Y attack once he's still or don't bother charging it and you'll hit him more often- then combo out the rest. Use the Heavy Smash variant of the combo on Krillin. He has a Partner drama piece as well as his "Do or Die" piece that can be tricky to avoid while he's in low health. He has a Destructo Disk Ultimate that hurts a LOT so if he ever has full ki meter be ready to Ultimate guard by holding RT just to be safe. He will also spam side-step-able Kamehamehas while in distance.


Nappa
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)
Pretty easy fight. Use your Heavy Smash combo instead though to avoid his 2 drama pieces and finish him quickly if you can to avoid the "Saiyan Warrior" piece. On Z-difficulty he will evade some of your attacks like most opponents, just keep on the offensive and fully charge each attack until you finally put him to rest.

Piccolo
Drama Pieces?: Yes
Like Goku he will grab you while charging your combo up close so be careful I would say try to do it in range but Piccolo has a stretch-arm move as well that may get you as well. So you'll want to be quick in this fight and hope he doesn't stretch arm you too much. Stick with doing the Heavy Smash combo on Piccolo and you should avoid his drama pieces.

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Raditz
Drama Pieces?: No
Another easy Sweep fight. Radditz will go down in two full Broly combos easy enough. Even on Z-difficulty where he may teleport away or dodge some of the combo he will eventually fall if you keep on him in Aura Spark.

Recoome
Drama Pieces?: No
Another sweeper. Two full Broly combos will end Recoome with no drama pieces kicking in whatsoever as he has no unique ones in Survival Mode. If you face his Z-version he can be pretty tricky because his Charge Blast has an invinicible start up frame, so avoid it at all costs if you see him start to cock back.

Saibamen
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)"Go All Out" and "Partner Assist"
Okay with this fight it can be a bit tricky because there are 3 enemy Saibamen with their own lifebar plus their hitbox is small. Dont worry though, the Broly Combo works but DON'T bother using Giga Press on them(to avoid "Go All Out" and Partner piece). Just do Toward + Y into full charge Heavy Smash. In Aura spark that should take them down in one go especially if you add some Ki blasts by mashing B to finish them off after the Heavy Smash. Once one dies double tap away from their corpse 5 times to give yourself some space to set up the combo for the next Saibaman coming in. A close up game is a dangerous one against these guys especially when they start hopping around. Keep your distance. Grabbing oddly works on them sometimes too but don't rely on it.


Teen Gohan
Drama Pieces?: 1
Just like Kid Gohan this fight should also be a clean sweep if he behaves. Teen Gohan should go down in 2 Full Broly combos no problem. If he ever gets in Aura Spark NEVER attack him because he will spam Heavy Smash and take a page out of your own book. Avoid him until he wears away then finish him.


Tien
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)
Heavy Smash combo him and leave out the Giga Press as he has 2 drama pieces. Also beware of Solar Flare as it will stun you. He as well as Krillin and Cell like to use it. On Z-difficulty he can be extremely tough to beat. So give yourself some space on this fight because he will combo you. You will need to be fairly experienced defensively to win this fight if he's on Z and not giving an inch.


Trunks
Drama Pieces?: Yes(2)
Another tough fight like Tien can be. Trunks has weird hit-boxes at times whenever he pulls out his sword and his "Here Goes" piece is hard to avoid plus it gives him full Ki-meter. Whenever he triggers "Here Goes" immediately go defensive because he may go for an Ultimate or go Super Saiyan. You should be able to hit the Heavy Smash combo on him while in Super Saiyan mode without him evading too much.



Vegeta
Drama Pieces?: Yes
Surprisingly easy fight if you ask me. Sure he's aggressive on Z-difficult but isn't everybody? He has 1 annoying drama piece: a partner assist and "Race of Warriors" if you dont beat him fast enough. I say go for the Heavy Smash version then finish with the full combo.


Yamcha
Drama Pieces?: Yes(1)
Similar difficulty to the Tien and Trunks fights because all 3 of these guys are tough to deal with on Z. He has 1 Partner Assist piece so I suggest you use the Heavy Smash combo on this fight. He will likely go for Wolf Fang Fist in the 70s-90s so try to hit him on start up or simply Side step it and punish him. Also his Spirit Ball Ultimate. Never try to dodge this. Simply Ultimate Guard it with RT.


So that's a quick rundown of how to beat each opponent efficiently and to avoid the annoying drama pieces. Now if they are ever in Z-difficulty any of these opponents can be a huge problem and truly only with practice and experience will you be able to handle most of them. Z-opponents tend to appear at fights 75,77,85,87,88,97,98, etc. on the loading screen. But overall they can appear at ANY time in Survival and you won't know until you notice they don't eat the broly combo like the majority of the opponents do in Survival. Aura Sparking makes your life easier too though it's not 100% mandatory it speeds things up and enables you to utilize other useful techniques so try your best to keep your meter up by the end of the fight to carry on to the next.

Much luck to those who are still working toward this. Until next time.

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