|You completed the game without killing anyone|
This is a rather difficult achievement. You must avoid the deaths of all civilians, enemies, hounds, and even weepers. It cannot be done by your hands. You should avoid talking and doing missions for Granny Rags, as her wishes are harm against others. Rats and fish are okay to eliminate.
See "Ghost" achievement for tips to also stack Ghost and Mostly Flesh and Steel.
|Rate this achievement||Average Rating (Based on 15 votes)|
|Comment #1 by Dervicious|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 07:41:00 AM
What's the fun in this?
|Comment #2 by Roberoo|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 07:46:56 AM
Some people like a stealth challenge. Perhaps there'll be options to incapacitate targets rather than kill them.
|Comment #3 by tazaf|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 07:54:47 AM
I think this just mean that you can kill people with your bare hands (or with a weapon) using posession or things like that will maybe do the trick.
|Comment #4 by tazaf|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 07:56:31 AM
I mean "can't" of course ^^
|Comment #5 by Shadow Phant0m|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 08:55:46 AM
Its gonna be Deus ex all over again. Bring it on.
|Comment #6 by BBowles|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 09:02:26 AM
Presumably you can make the targets kill themselves, considering there's an achievement for causing accidental suicides. Seems like a fun challenge.
|Comment #7 by OverAchiever|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 09:10:08 AM
This achievement reminds me of The Count of Monte Cristo. Out for revenge but not killing anyone; just taking those who destroyed your life, and making their life a living hell.
|Comment #8 by TommyD758|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 09:13:38 AM
I was kinda hoping for something like this
|Comment #9 by Terrin|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 10:49:09 AM
actually the developers stated even for your targets there is ways to get around killing them, the example is you can posess him and then sell him into slavery so he isn't dead he is just not in the picture anymore
|Comment #10 by BeheldBryan|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 11:36:47 AM
The same fun that can be had going through a Metal Gear, Deus Ex, or Thief game in the same way.
|Comment #11 by Opiate42|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 12:49:20 PM
Challenge Accepted! :)
|Comment #12 by SydLosttarot|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 01:24:52 PM
This achievement goes hand in hand with dealing with the targets non-lethally. I think trying to suicide them will void this. Every target can be dealt with while nary spilling a drop of blood. Only 41 days, 9 hours, 35 minutes and 33, 32, 31...
Need a time machine.
|Comment #13 by OniDestiny|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 02:41:29 PM
Achievements for killing People an Achievements for not killing one... very ****
|Comment #14 by WalterWhite|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 08:14:02 PM
I hate stealth.
I ruined Deus Ex for myself by trying to do their version of this achievement and I won't do it again. Well atleast not in my first playthrough.
|Comment #15 by TommyD758|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 10:34:02 PM
Stealth makes it fun.
|Comment #16 by osakamitsu|
Tuesday, August 28, 2012 @ 11:58:31 PM
Reminds me more a metal gear type of cheevo. Cant wait for this.
|Comment #17 by DMichaels86|
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 12:29:13 AM
They put in so much to this game for stealth: like blink, sneaking, using distractions/darkness. Why would you want this game and yet hate stealth? Lol
|Comment #18 by ADTR TOM|
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 01:29:04 AM
I enjoyed my three play throughs of Deus-Ex so I'm sure the same will apply for this game, looks promising.
|Comment #19 by AMoDo94|
Wednesday, August 29, 2012 @ 03:06:42 AM
Fav chevo :]
|Comment #20 by R2D2|
Friday, August 31, 2012 @ 05:30:00 PM
I found this really easy on Deus Ex...
|Comment #21 by GeekSven|
Sunday, September 02, 2012 @ 12:11:52 PM
If the game is going to be really long, it's gonna be a challenge. Also, you may have to play it a few times over, and the risk there is that you can get bored with using the same powers over and over...
|Comment #22 by Jack Flak|
Thursday, September 06, 2012 @ 11:10:32 AM
@10 Sorry, but Deus Ex was NOT nearly as fun on my stealth/pacifist playthrough. I guess 100% is out of the question for me, I'm going to enjoy all the killing mechanics that they spent so much time on.
|Comment #23 by peace099|
Wednesday, September 19, 2012 @ 02:59:17 PM
It's only a stealth/action game, you wouldn't want them to include achievements where stealth is required. Idiots.
|Comment #24 by DeFalKoniiZ3|
Sunday, September 23, 2012 @ 04:28:16 AM
Deus ex was fun and challenging,hopefuly this will be too
|Comment #25 by yippy smalz|
Tuesday, September 25, 2012 @ 06:56:24 PM
I love stealth games, @14 you dont have to play it stealth. A quick run through on easy would get this achievement quickly I'm sure.
|Comment #26 by Echo64|
Friday, October 05, 2012 @ 09:25:33 AM
This is going to be great!
|Comment #27 by harry77|
Friday, October 05, 2012 @ 01:17:52 PM
Stealth is the way forward, This will hopefully be challenging and the requirements will become a bit more clear regarding dispatching key targets in a non lethal way.
|Comment #28 by The Luigi Vampa|
Monday, October 08, 2012 @ 03:38:28 PM
@7 I agree with you.
|Comment #29 by UsedxAndxAbused|
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 @ 02:16:01 PM
i really hate these kind of achievements hated doing it in deus ex and am going to hate it in this one. i love being stealthy but i love to kill everything.
|Comment #30 by ClapSingItsMe|
Tuesday, October 09, 2012 @ 10:45:00 PM
Like Deus Ex. I got the "no kill" achievement. It was hard and challenging but fun.
|Comment #31 by El Grunto 14|
Thursday, October 11, 2012 @ 01:29:41 AM
This one may be a huge pain in the ass because you can kill someone you've knocked unconscious just by bumping them or setting them down a little too hard. I didn't kill a single person while protecting the Empress or when escaping from Coldridge but I still had a kill count of 1 when I reached Samuel.
|Comment #32 by captnWOOPYpants|
Thursday, October 11, 2012 @ 02:51:31 AM
stealth is the easiest way to play, but its the longest and most boring. That is why I personally hate these achievements and dont care for acquiring them. I just want to have fun.
|Comment #33 by El Grunto 14|
Thursday, October 11, 2012 @ 01:58:00 PM
Can anyone confirm if killing hounds, weepers, or krusts disables the achievement? I mean they're not a person so they shouldn't technically be included in "anyone."
|Comment #34 by Maxzimus|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 01:37:58 AM
@33 I'm not sure about weepers or the hounds, but I just completed the achievement and at one point I got shot at by krusts and it still unlocked for me.
|Comment #35 by AM2 Raxel|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 06:32:12 AM
Im not gonna bother with this cheeve until the the second playthrough, I need to get my bearings first.
|Comment #36 by Shadyizm|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 12:43:46 PM
I like the achievments this game has this one will make it interesting
|Comment #37 by In Epicinium|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 02:16:13 PM
Can you kill and then reload a save, and the achievement still count? or do you have to go through without killing a single person at all even if you reload saves"
|Comment #38 by Sethosquall|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 03:59:48 PM
If i contaminate the bottle street gangs elixir will I void the achievement?
|Comment #39 by Fridgeater|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 05:39:44 PM
Its as it states complete the game without killing anyone. Which is great because now I get pretend its Thief :)
|Comment #40 by grumpyyogi1968|
Friday, October 12, 2012 @ 08:57:27 PM
I tried it but i didn't save slagjaw from granny in mission 7, i just tranquilized him and moved on thinking he was still alive but at the end it showed 1 death. i finished everything and came back after to do this mission right, incapacitating granny and freeing slagjaw but now even if all my missions show 0 kill i still don't have the achievo. You need to do it in 1 walkthrough, can't comeback at the end and fix 1 mistake, I even had a save just before the very last man to neutralize, reloaded it, refinished the game starting there and nope, still won't work so get it all right the first time or you have to redo all over again...
|Comment #41 by Maxzimus|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 01:08:10 AM
Some information that might be useful that I ended up doing was this.. I saved the game alot and when I alerted someone or accidently killed someone or just wasnt sure if I was seen or not I reloaded back the last save.
I did not kill any weepers, hounds, or krusts. I was never seen by any weepers or hounds but in mission 7 at the end there are some krusts that I couldn't seem to get by without them seeing me so for anyone going for Ghost and Shadow this is useful information to know bc it still gave me the achievement.
|Comment #42 by Maxzimus|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 01:16:34 AM
Also during mission 7 where you are at Granny Rag and Slackjaw just pickpocket the key from Granny Rag and run.. Also do not pick up Granny Rag's charm or whatever it is underneath her pillow on her bed because people are saying its glitched and will not give you the achievement if you pick it up.
Also don't kill any of the Assassins at the very beginning just to be safe. And make sure if your going for Clean Hands, make sure before going on to the next mission that you completed it correctly and if you didn't go back and fix it with a prior save, I am skeptical about going back to mission select to fix something I made a mistake on bc some people are saying certain achievements are not popping that way. I for one had that trouble with Art Dealer and will have to do anoth
|Comment #43 by Maxzimus|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 01:18:12 AM
Also for anyone doing Mostly Flesh and Steel while doing Clean hands I made sure I did the following.
I never upgraded Blink to Blink 2, I did not upgrade any other power, I did not use any Bone charms and I did not purchase any weapon upgrades/equipment upgrades and the achievement popped.
|Comment #44 by Punisherme|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 05:32:46 AM
#40: Same problem here ... any solutions? In the Missionoverview in the mainmenu is in every mission a 0 by People killed and an arrow by pacifist (dont remember the real name of that point)... but noch achievi at the end of that game!!! Can someone help me?
|Comment #45 by xMLPxApplejack|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 11:04:06 AM
this achieve is BS on mission 2 i don't kill anyone, and i brand campbell and every time it says i have 1 person killed. don't bother with this achievement its a waste.
|Comment #46 by Maxzimus|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 12:24:51 PM
@40 You can't shoot either of them with a dart or it won't give you the achievement, and don't help either one of them just pickpocket the key off granny rag and run.
|Comment #47 by undeaddisturbed|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 02:05:51 PM
This does glitch but I am unsure as to where. even with granny rags, destroyed the coin then hit her with a sleep dart. All mission summaries had the no kill box lit up. Still no pop.
|Comment #48 by Echo64|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 06:17:44 PM
This one is a lot easier than it sounds, I only had to replay one level and that's because after I choked a guy he fell off the roof and died. You can still kill mice and get the achievement, but I think that's the only exception. Just make sure to save ALL OF THE TIME, because make one mistake and you will have to start the level all over again. There is a ton of saving and loading involved to get this achievement, but honestly I had a lot of fun getting it.
|Comment #49 by codeman016|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 08:49:58 PM
apparently you cant kill the assasins in the prologue -_______- gdi lets hope i can work some magic :/
|Comment #50 by In Epicinium|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 11:24:54 PM
this is such a bs achievement, all of my mission stats say Didnt Kill Anyone, the only one i couldve done is shooting granny in mission 7 with a sleep dart? so i guess we are all coming to the conclusion of "dont do anything between granny and slackjaw"
|Comment #51 by In Epicinium|
Saturday, October 13, 2012 @ 11:26:47 PM
i even blocked all the guards in the prologue and spent 4 hours alone on mission 2 because i THOUGHT i was accidentally killing people, even restarted the entire mission when the unconscious bodies disappeared. so yea great I am guessing i have to do another damn play through of this game...
|Comment #52 by Haziord|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 11:58:03 AM
I was cheated out of this achievement. I killed no no one was never detected, reviewed all missions overviews and they were in agreement: no kills, never detected. I didn't frigg'n get it! Straight through play through. Can anybody explain this mess?
|Comment #53 by Lordchunk|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 01:14:18 PM
Just completed the game no kills and used stealth all the way through and no achievement this is glitched or something :/ I got all the boxes ticked and everything damnit.
|Comment #54 by DopeGivesMeHope|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 02:19:37 PM
it says on my mission stats no kills on them all and achievement hasnt popped but i've seen somewhere if you pick up the charm it glitches so ill try doing that
|Comment #55 by Davidvangarderen|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 02:54:43 PM
I complete the achievement but didnt got it i think its that i played it on easy because in the stats their stands that i killed no one in the entire game so this sucks but the game is realy awesome
|Comment #56 by Illicit|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 07:01:06 PM
@55 I just did it on easy and it popped for me (as well as Ghost, Shadow, & Mostly Flesh & Steel) so I don't think that's the problem.
|Comment #57 by samwich|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 07:30:10 PM
You might just be killing things inbetween missions like the weepers in the sewers. It says complete the ENTIRE game without killing anyone, not beat all missions
|Comment #58 by NoriYuki Sato|
Sunday, October 14, 2012 @ 11:22:18 PM
On Bethesda's website, it says the following:
"If Granny is Sleep Darted or Choked Out after destroying the Cameo in the Flooded District Mission, this will count as a kill and will prevent you from getting Clean Hands."
|Comment #59 by grumpyyogi1968|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 06:31:28 AM
i just finished the game with no kills too and no achievement however i wonder if the dogs and the plants i killed might count as kills even if they don't show in the mission summaries?? have to redo all over again but not before i also find out exactly what to do with granny, maybe those who got the achievement can let us know what they did and didn't do...
|Comment #60 by B C|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 11:24:18 AM
I got the achievement yesterday and here's what I did:
1. Didn't kill the assassins in the prologue
2. Didn't kill any hounds or krusts
3. Didn't contaminate the bottle street gang's elixir
4. Any time I choked or sleep darted someone I made sure to put the body in a place where it couldn't get eaten by rats.
5. I made sure that all choked/sleep darted bodies said "(unconscious)". There was a recurring moment in Flooded District where I got accosted by six or seven weepers and I sleep darted them all, but two of the bodies didn't have the "(unconscious)" indicator, which told me that the dart killed them (??) I had to keep reloading my save and eventually bypassed that route altogether.
6. I took the key from Granny Rags and when she got pissed I bailed. I didn't do anything wit
|Comment #61 by B C|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 11:25:44 AM
with Slackjaw - I just left him there. I did take Granny's Cameo but I didn't destroy it.
Hope this helps.
|Comment #62 by Airaid007|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 01:07:08 PM
So does anyone know if u kill someone and load last checkpoint if that will screw u over?
|Comment #63 by Duke of Hurl|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 01:53:23 PM
If at first you don't succeed:
Of course, I now know about the Blink upgrade screwing up the "Mostly Flesh and Steel" achievement. But this is a good look into the way I do things to keep my hands clean.
|Comment #64 by Illicit|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 10:38:31 PM
@59 Didn't even do any granny sidequests on my no kill/no upgrades/no alerts play through. Encountered her once in passing in mission 3 (i think). Just walked right by her.
|Comment #65 by Illicit|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 10:42:49 PM
@62...You can reload a previous save and it will cause no problems. I did it dozens of times (I only killed once and reloaded but mostly I reloaded for being spotted, but you'll be fine reloading previous saves). I suggest keeping 2-3 saves in case you do happen to totally screw up.
|Comment #66 by grumpyyogi1968|
Monday, October 15, 2012 @ 11:09:33 PM
did exactly what #60 did except i freed slackjaw after stealing the key from granny and it still worked perfectly, got the achievement. took me a little over 5 hrs to do the whole game, i avoided everyone and all sidequests except those required for the non lethal kills.
|Comment #67 by Gary Ablett Jr|
Tuesday, October 16, 2012 @ 11:49:19 AM
Got this Achievement no problems on my first attempt.
However, I never had to come near Granny/Slackjaw in my playthrough during mission 7. I didn't do any of Granny's side mission earlier on but did Slackjaws, but my playthrough took me nowhere near where they're having their confrontation in mission 7. If I can bypass is then surely others should be able to on their no deaths no alarms playthrough, just don't do granny's missions when they first become available and see if that makes a difference.
|Comment #68 by Gary Ablett Jr|
Tuesday, October 16, 2012 @ 11:52:20 AM
Didn't kill anyone in prologue
Didn't kill any rats,dogs,plants at all.
Made sure bodies were left where rats & water couldn't get to them.
The one time I did accidentally kill someone, I dashboarded, rebooted game and loaded a manual save, not an auto save.
Didn't kill any main targets, always did the non lethal option (obviously).
And the one I think many may be overlooking - DIDN'T POSSESS ANY ANIMALS. As upon being unpossessed from that animal, the host animal dies. This may be where a lot of people are stuffing it up.
Didn't glitch for me at all. Thank goodness :)
|Comment #69 by Haziord|
Tuesday, October 16, 2012 @ 02:27:51 PM
Does anyone know if this achievement can be unlocked on easy?
|Comment #70 by darkburn|
Tuesday, October 16, 2012 @ 02:42:44 PM
I would thunk so,no difficulty achievements on this game ;)
|Comment #71 by Haziord|
Tuesday, October 16, 2012 @ 03:59:36 PM
I hope you're right. Thanks.
|Comment #72 by Stanley92HYPE|
Wednesday, October 17, 2012 @ 08:03:58 AM
Just got it, so glad its over now i can go back to f'ing the guards up! Lol
|Comment #73 by EVILnudeMONKEY|
Wednesday, October 17, 2012 @ 09:58:00 AM
Make sure you set your unconscious bodies away from stair wells too, if a sleeping person slides down even a couple of stairs they die when they stop sliding. =0/
|Comment #74 by TWTHEREDDRAGON|
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 12:23:39 PM
FASTEST & EASIEST Guide for this achievement. It shows you how to beat each level super fast http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhdTWB4l78ukYsvpaCTSZTrz_34N8Aolm
|Comment #75 by Reece Poolinho|
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 06:33:53 PM
Just done all levels with no kills but no achievement!
I did choke Granny Rags out in Mission 7 though.
Can anyone confirm that if I replay Mission 7 I'll get the achievement or do I have to do the whole game again?
|Comment #76 by SULTANofSNIPES|
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 08:56:55 PM
@45 you have to ensure that callista's uncle (forget name)survives his meating with high overseer campell.
|Comment #77 by gargalsomewater|
Thursday, October 18, 2012 @ 10:53:43 PM
So does anyone know for sure if you can kill the rats or not
|Comment #78 by Romano07|
Friday, October 19, 2012 @ 02:47:55 AM
@75 You CAN NOT choke her out. I have all the achievements and this one was by far the most difficult, The best way to get this one, is to never even talk to granny rags in mission 1, that way in mission 7, the entrance to the sewer is unlocked, but the area granny rags would be in, will be blocked off. you also can kill rats, but you can't kill anyone in the prologue when defending the queen, best to just block and hold it down. furthermore, if you don't kill any key targets, when you get this, you'll also unlock that ghost acievements with it.
|Comment #79 by Gary Ablett Jr|
Friday, October 19, 2012 @ 10:08:50 AM
Guys, just dont do any of the Granny Rags side missions in the first mission and you don't have to worry about her in chapter 7, that area isn't accessible thus you never have to try to steal the key off her, the gate is already unlocked. This Achievement is not hard at all.
|Comment #80 by Haziord|
Friday, October 19, 2012 @ 03:13:54 PM
Don't know if it's been said yet, but the best way to avoid the glitch altogether is to not do any Granny Rags missions. You can still do Slackjaw's though. By avoiding her you won't have to even be bothered with them in mission 7.
|Comment #81 by LordOfTheTrees|
Friday, October 19, 2012 @ 04:39:22 PM
Played through the whole game without killing anyone, stealing the key from granny rags without killing her or Slackjaw. Turns out I apparently killed someone in the prologue. That sucks, what was I supposed to do, not do my job?!?
|Comment #83 by boyzalan|
Saturday, October 20, 2012 @ 12:43:25 AM
did it on the first run .. surprisingly fun despite no gadgets
|Comment #84 by Flamo|
Sunday, October 21, 2012 @ 12:44:27 PM
Stealth is awesome, makes some of the missions so much easier if you don't kill anyone.
|Comment #85 by RichieA|
Monday, October 22, 2012 @ 07:45:09 AM
This achievement was really fun, the game is awesome since you can take loads of routes to get to your goal and all the guards and characters are random, they don't just have a 100% fixed path to patrol etc.
|Comment #86 by xXxWolfsRainxXx|
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 @ 06:49:14 AM
Didnt Kill anyone is checked for every mission but it didnt pop. Im so sad :'(
|Comment #87 by Carpetfluff|
Thursday, October 25, 2012 @ 09:20:05 AM
@86 read about the Granny Rags issue in mission 7; that's most likely the problem. You can replay from that mission to the end and get it if that's the case.
|Comment #88 by Thetenawsomist|
Friday, October 26, 2012 @ 01:18:32 AM
Very easy achievement,played it on the hardest mode and I got the ghost and shadow achievement as well on the same play through.
|Comment #89 by CraySongz|
Friday, October 26, 2012 @ 08:52:34 PM
Acchivment is fucking bullshit i didn't do anything and it said i killed 1 person that shit took hours not repeating it
|Comment #90 by GunnerJak|
Saturday, October 27, 2012 @ 09:17:35 PM
Done it twice, still no achievement.
|Comment #91 by nemonobody|
Sunday, October 28, 2012 @ 01:37:26 PM
If you? kill the assassins in the prologue will it affect the clean hands achievement?
|Comment #92 by Martyy23|
Wednesday, November 07, 2012 @ 05:54:47 PM
Just got this one and can confirm that killing the assassins in the prologue does NOT affect the achievement.
|Comment #93 by SeraphTC|
Thursday, November 08, 2012 @ 08:18:28 AM
The cheevo is not glitched. If it says you got a kill and you didn't actively kill anyone, then one of several things happened:
1) You left an unconscious body in water
2) You left an unconscious body near a rat/rats
3) You left an unconscious body in a location where it was able to fall
4) You threw an unconscious body instead of placing it
5) You used a hacktool on a security device and it killed an enemy
6) When escaping using the train, the tallboys found and killed a survivor. This can happen, as once you have them in the 'safe place' one or two will wander back across the alley (clearly a bug). I prevented this by stacking corpses at the top of the stairs (used about 6) so they are prevented from wandering.
Any of these things can result in a kill for you.
To get the
|Comment #94 by SeraphTC|
Thursday, November 08, 2012 @ 08:21:11 AM
To get the cheevo, you should also avoid killing rats, hagfish and weepers. You also must not kill any of your main targets (obviously) - there is an alternate way of dealing with all of them.
|Comment #95 by Xprimentyl|
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 06:41:51 PM
*Sigh* I HATE when $#!t goes half-answered in these threads. I'll try to ask what several people already have and STILL have no straight answer. I've got "0" kills in all mission stats, but no achievement and yes, I did sleep dart Granny Rags; can anyone PLEASE simply confirm the following:
1. Sleep Darting Granny rags negates this achievement.
2. Replaying JUST Mission 7 and leaving Granny Rags and Slackjaw alone will pop this achievement.
3. Replaying from Mission 7 THROUGH THE END OF THE GAME will pop this achievement.
I'm trying to confirm #58 right now.
|Comment #96 by Xprimentyl|
Saturday, November 10, 2012 @ 06:50:34 PM
Does say whether or not replaying Mission 7 will pop the achievement though.
|Comment #97 by snortle|
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 @ 07:32:22 PM
i got the game yesterday and played right through and never killed anyone not even rats or dogs, it even says i havent killed anyone on the mission stats.. i sleep darted every one of the people you have to kill and even with the duel in the boyle party i sleep darted him. all said unconscious not dead. and no achievement, very cranky as im a score whore and i really wanted this cheevo lol can anyone help me
|Comment #98 by Xprimentyl|
Sunday, November 18, 2012 @ 06:58:44 PM
CONFIRMED!! If you're one of those of us who did everything right for this one except you sleep-darted/choked out Granny Rags in mission 7 which registers as a "kill" (despite your mission kill count still reading "0"), all you have to do is replay from Mission 7 through the end of the game, still killing no one, and the cheevo will pop. Just make sure you LOAD Mission 7 from the start menu; the game keeps the mission start save from each mission in the Load screen (scroll all the way down,) so do it from there. I wouldn't risk PICKING Mission 7 from the start menu, not sure if it'll count as a part of your "one playthrough."
|Comment #99 by ProPeanuts|
Tuesday, November 20, 2012 @ 06:16:21 AM
It's not that hard every one. I tried and succeeded the first time. Here are a few tips:
- Prologue doesn't matter. Kill or wait.
- Skipping enemies works.
- Sleep darts and choking is key!
- I did this together trying to get other achievements as well (the ones not to get spotted and stuff) and got them all.
- Time bend level 2 stops time and you can walk freely. This also works if you encounter Granny Rags at level 7. Stop time, steal key, run, and stop time again while you slip away through the exit. No kills, and no spot.
- Save, save and save a lot. You can reload previous saves without glitching the cheevo.
|Comment #100 by Aeterna Hope|
Sunday, November 25, 2012 @ 02:04:07 AM
Sigh talk about boring
|Comment #101 by Kodee|
Tuesday, November 27, 2012 @ 11:41:42 PM
Played entire game, didn't take out a single reaper, rat, or fish. Didn't kill s single main target. Never killed a person. Only choked out and/or sleep-darted 3 enemies, and they were hidden in trash cans where they could not be killed by rats or anything else. I don't have the patience to replay this...
|Comment #102 by MinorT 1769|
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 @ 12:02:16 PM
I haven't bought dishonored yet but I am about too? What would you guys rate the difficulty of achievements for this game. I'm curious
|Comment #103 by MinorT 1769|
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 @ 12:03:29 PM
Excuse my punctuation.
|Comment #104 by LostorLimp|
Wednesday, November 28, 2012 @ 09:47:59 PM
For those of you who are still curious, I just got this on my first play through...a few things:
I killed the assassins in the prologue
Wasn't too nervous about being careful with bodies being eaten by rats
Stole granny rags key and ran
|Comment #105 by tommi462|
Monday, December 03, 2012 @ 06:33:35 PM
Did not get this (nor Ghost) despite really not killing anyone (and never rewired a single security device). Didn't even face Granny Rags. Didn't even get to, since I skipped her side quests in the first place. Have no idea what could've happened and where, so I have no idea which save to load and I'm not about to play this one through a third time. So fuck this game and fuck Arkane. If I wasn't at home with a broken ankle anyway I'd be a bit pissed off about the wasted time on a second playthrough...
Wait... I think I killed a couple wolfhounds in the flooded district map. Do they count?
|Comment #106 by ProPeanuts|
Tuesday, December 04, 2012 @ 02:58:47 PM
@ 105: Without killing anything is a pretty solid hint. Nothing means nothing. Not even Dogs.
|Comment #107 by UnhandyJOKER|
Monday, December 10, 2012 @ 01:42:06 PM
What about on the prison level?
|Comment #108 by Kyrantho|
Monday, December 10, 2012 @ 01:43:32 PM
Did this today on first playthrough, stealth is way more fun than just smashing your way through imo.
|Comment #109 by KimikoAmaya|
Tuesday, December 11, 2012 @ 08:42:05 PM
#106: actually it says "anybody" Killing animals is perfectly okay. I killed every rat, hagfish and dog I came across for shits and giggles and the only thing that threw off my clean hands run was the Granny Rags Knock-out/Kill glitch.
|Comment #110 by FnB Tang Tiga|
Sunday, December 16, 2012 @ 01:23:35 PM
Ok so on all of my mission stats it says I killed nobody.
Do I go and restart mission 7? Or should I restart the game all over and just make sure I didn't accidentally kill a dog or rat or something?
|Comment #111 by TREX1979|
Sunday, December 16, 2012 @ 02:29:06 PM
Woo Hoo the Boot upgrade does not matter I just got this achievements Mostly Flesh & Steel + Clean Hands + Shadow + Ghost on my 1st play through man it was a challenge trying to get all those on 1st playthrough NOW it's time to sup up and kill kill kill ah HAHAHAAA
|Comment #112 by Airship Pirate|
Thursday, December 27, 2012 @ 05:56:21 PM
You guys will like this...I can confirm that I have the Clean Hands achievement. When I came upon Granny and Slackjaw in mis. 7, I did Granny's quest and cooked slackjaw. At the end it should say you did not kill anybody.
I also noticed that if you take SlackJaw's side it voids the "ghost" and "shadow" achievement. Also pickpocketing the key and running counts as being spotted as well (if you don't have time bend).
Hope this helps!
|Comment #113 by Hutchy27|
Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 12:01:24 PM
Surprisingly enjoyable playing a stealthy play through to get clean hands, ghost and mostly flesh and steel. Very rewarding.
|Comment #114 by DragonicTerror|
Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 01:58:27 PM
This achievement is going to be a killer but very rewarding to complete. I enjoy games with a little challenge.
|Comment #115 by lazyMerc|
Friday, December 28, 2012 @ 06:40:39 PM
Just finished the game with the Clean Hands achievement. I did kill the two assassin's in the prologue. I also killed some river krusts in the Kaldwin's Bridge mission (because I stupidly forgot I wasn't supposed to, and was an idiot for trying to help that guy out of the cell). So I can confirm that killing river krusts does not count against the Clean Hands achievement. I guess they also patched the multiple achievement glitch because I got the Clean Hands, Ghost, and Shadow achievements all at the same time.
|Comment #116 by VWCiderspace|
Saturday, December 29, 2012 @ 04:47:38 AM
OK - This has taken me AGES, but I finally got it this morning
The only things I did differently from other games:-
1:- Didn"t Kill the assassins in the Prologue- just used parry till they got fed up and the game moved on.
2:- Made sure I went and met Granny rags in the sewer level - and this tim I just pickpocketed her Key and Fled- easy enough to get out of her lair once you have the key .
I now have my hundred points
Get the Ghost achievements seperately if you can since for clean hands - it doesn"t matter if you have a couple of unconscious bodies found and if you get spotted a couple of times - just Blink off and csrry on - you can also use power upgrades and ability enhancements
Cheers all - happy now!
|Comment #117 by Elmoeod15|
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 09:07:15 PM
Dont kill in proluge only block
|Comment #118 by Houdeanny|
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 09:20:28 AM
I've done the Flooded District 3 times now and every time it says there is 1 hostile killed and i swear, most of the time I'm possessing rats and running past all the hostiles! Anyone having the same problem?
|Comment #119 by Houdeanny|
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 09:47:43 AM
BTW I've only done the Slackjaw missions to get rid of the Pendleton twins, bypassed Granny Rags completely... and now I can just walk straight through to the Hound Pits! Does this have something to do with my mystery kill? or am I just not seeing a consequence of a certain action?
|Comment #120 by adtrhellyeah|
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 08:52:01 PM
I was also having trouble with the flooded district mission. I'd say the best way to go about finishing it with no kills is to avoid knocking out hostiles all together. There's too many opportunities for rats to find the bodies or for them to accidentally slip into water and drown INSTANTLY. I made use of possession and stop time to bypass most assassins. Oh, and as for the granny rags/slackjaw thing, grab that key and book it.
|Comment #121 by DopeKid27|
Tuesday, January 08, 2013 @ 08:26:42 AM
Did Clean Hands/Ghost/Shadow/Mostly Flesh and Steel/ and Art Dealer among others in one play through. People seem to have trouble doing all these when it comes down to dealing with the Slackjaw - Granny Rags scene. What worked for me was to loot Granny's hideout area with the final art piece, then grab her cameo and opening the oven (but not putting it in there yet) then SAVE and as quickly as possible:
Pickpocket Granny's key, (she talks trash but she won't spot you yet) free Slackjaw, and blink up towards the Granny's room, but stay hidden outside the wall if she's in there. Slackjaw will come attack Granny and distract her. When Granny is out of her room, jump in, throw the cameo in the oven, then go through the locked door towards the runes. Granny and Slackjaw will duke it out
|Comment #122 by McKillaboy|
Sunday, January 13, 2013 @ 04:26:24 PM
Only used blink and never killed anyone, still didn't get the achievement. Too bad.
|Comment #123 by SmithyTix|
Thursday, January 17, 2013 @ 01:25:16 PM
I loved doing this achievement for my first run through, trying to find my way through Dunwall with no prior experience was the toughest and best game experience I had in a long time.
|Comment #124 by A Big Schett|
Thursday, February 07, 2013 @ 04:12:02 PM
Just choke out all of your enemies, use sleep darts, and do all non-lethal tactics of taking out the important targets.
|Comment #125 by ValentinRiciu|
Saturday, February 09, 2013 @ 03:29:37 PM
Challenge Accepted! :)
|Comment #126 by ttdrevan|
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 @ 04:02:18 PM
Just got it, now 1000GS and Clean Hands was my 50000 GS achievement :D
|Comment #127 by ttdrevan|
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 @ 04:05:03 PM
BTW if you dont do Granny mission in Main game mission 2 (which is agains Clean Hands playthrough anyway) she wont appear during Mission 7, gate will be simply open, no Weepers in sewers.
|Comment #128 by Ghostgate|
Tuesday, March 19, 2013 @ 07:28:17 PM
I'm very curious about something I haven't seen anyone mention yet about how achievements work in this game. Can I do this Clean Hands achievement in broken up segments, or does it all have to be sequential? I have zero kills on every mission, yet no achievement. Do I have to play the last mission and beat the game AGAIN, now that I've went back and made sure to get zero kills in every mission? Please explain to me how this works. Thanks!
|Comment #129 by Ghostgate|
Wednesday, March 20, 2013 @ 09:05:06 PM
Disregard my last comment. I now know that it must be sequential. Stupid design. I don't have infinite hours to play this game through 3 or 4 times. And yes, I'm on an achievements website, so it's already been clearly established that I have OCD just like the rest of you guys. Don't judge me. #shame
|Comment #130 by ShadowX1790|
Sunday, April 07, 2013 @ 06:32:13 PM
What about the sewers part in Mission 1. The rats eat the guys walking in. How do you avoid this?
|Comment #131 by Frankskar|
Monday, June 10, 2013 @ 06:36:03 AM
You need to start from mission one and kill no one to get this achievement. There is no way you can just replay a mission that you failed to do so and get the achievement.
|Comment #132 by Naughts|
Thursday, July 04, 2013 @ 07:06:09 AM
This cheevo is Glitched! Played from prologue(not killing assassins) to the end with no kills and it hasn't unlocked.
|Comment #133 by MeatCone|
Wednesday, July 31, 2013 @ 11:58:38 AM
Does anyone know if it has to be done on a certain difficulty?
|Comment #134 by Evil Paroxysm|
Sunday, August 04, 2013 @ 08:37:20 PM
Does killing the assassins during the prologue seriously disable this achievement? I missed this achievement on a very clean and tediously long playthrough..
|Comment #135 by Anci3ntApp1e|
Tuesday, August 06, 2013 @ 05:40:14 PM
Forget all the other guides that are out there. This video Walkthrough is probably the best walkthrough i've ever used. This guy walks you through every level in possibly record breaking time with each mission taking at least 9 - 11mins. On top of all that not only do you unlock Clean Hands but you also unlock Ghost, Shadow, Mostly Flesh & Steel, Political Justice, and Surgical. 6 achievements in one super quick play through, why not. I highly recommend anyone trying to go for the Clean Hands achievement use this video walkthrough.
here's the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSooyfnfghk
|Comment #136 by M4n 0f Steele|
Tuesday, August 13, 2013 @ 02:07:16 AM
I am about to start my second play through of this game and I will be focusing on this achievement and also the "Mostly Flesh and Steel" achievement as well as a few others. I'm glad I came on this forum and read some of it's users advice. So thank you very much. Btw, I made this account because of this game. Wish me luck :)
|Comment #137 by SSSAMPSON123|
Sunday, August 18, 2013 @ 11:44:59 PM
This achievement must be glitched i have avery level and didnt kill anyone
|Comment #138 by SSSAMPSON123|
Monday, August 19, 2013 @ 10:14:56 PM
I completed the game again today and got my achievement heres what i did different. In the prologue do not kill any of the assassins block the entire time, and in mission 2 completely ignore granny rags.
|Comment #139 by AFX Acid|
Monday, August 19, 2013 @ 10:26:59 PM
@135, That is definitely the best guide to use when going for Clean Hands. However, even though I followed his play through EXACT, I still didn't get it. Have all 0's and check marks in every mission, and did it all in one play through. The ONLY thing I can think of is I may or may not have killed a Weeper in the sewer when you first have to go investigate them. I was trying to avoid them but nothing was happening, so one finally attacked me and a 'mash RT" button prompt came up so I hit it and knocked it into the sewer. But that was between missions so I don't know why it would count. Doesn't seem like there would be any way around it. Pretty bummed, spent like 4+ hours and no cheevo. :(
|Comment #140 by mr1shank|
Tuesday, September 03, 2013 @ 08:20:10 AM
Damn *** I am doing clean hands and collecting solkolovs paintings ** Do complete the first mission Granny Rags gives you in the Overseer Cambell level (choke out, and sleep dart the other two suitors) or else when you are in the sewers in the flooded distrcit (much later in the game) a whole area will be blocked off and you will not be able to access the area where Granny Rags holds Slackjaw. This area contains a painting. Frigg!!
|Comment #141 by AmaznSpoderman|
Thursday, September 05, 2013 @ 11:44:11 AM
Do the two guards that the rats eat alive while you're escaping from prison count as kills? People say they always finished with only 2 kills and I can't find a way to keep the rats from eating them.
|Comment #142 by zXzBABSzXz|
Friday, September 13, 2013 @ 05:56:38 PM
I'm on the road to get this achievement! Its pretty tough but everytime i finish a mission its pretty rewarding!! You just basically need to be a ninja!
|Comment #143 by Prince2033|
Tuesday, October 08, 2013 @ 09:11:40 AM
i have same problem you have fallowe that guide but no ghost and no clean hand so why ? :)
|Comment #144 by BravesFan4Life|
Sunday, November 24, 2013 @ 10:34:52 AM
I followed these guidelines to get Ghost, Shadow, Clean Hands and Mostly Flesh and Steel:
1: Save often
2: Do it on easy no reason to stress on this game on very hard the achievements pop regardless of how difficult you make it on yourself.
3: You can kill rats and the plants but no hounds.
4: You must replay the mission if you failed on ghost, shadow or clean hands. If you were lucky and made a save before you messed up its easy to reload a save.
5: Stick to corners and constantly use the ability to peek around corners or through peepholes works wonders.
6: Do not do any Granny Rags missions and it skips the encounter in level 7 allowing you to get clean hands really easily.
7: Liberal use of non head shot sleep bolts.
8: Avoid getting your gear at the end you do not need i
|Comment #145 by BravesFan4Life|
Sunday, November 24, 2013 @ 10:36:12 AM
You do not need your gear for the last two missions choke and blink do the job just fine
|Comment #146 by Havok1496|
Wednesday, January 08, 2014 @ 09:00:32 AM
I can confirm that killing the assassins in the prologue does not affect the achievement. Also the two guards in the sewers after the escape can be eaten. If you are having trouble with Ghost when you go for the weepers under the cellar do not let them see you. Also, rats can be killed. Here is a great guide i found. Its essentially a speed run for Clean Hands, Ghost, Shadow, and mostly flesh and steel. The guide is the best one out there in my opinion.
In case the link doesn't work its by The Red Dragon.
|Comment #147 by NoticedJester34|
Thursday, January 09, 2014 @ 11:03:10 PM
I hate doing stealth so much im not even gonna bother with this chev. i also like 2 kill stuff in games!
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