Fallout 3

Fallout 3 Achievements

Silver-Tongued Devil

Won 50 Speech Challenges   

You may be cutting this achievement close toward the end of the game, so I would suggest putting quite a few points into your Speech skill early so you can work on it the entire time. While speaking with characters, you may be presented with dialogue choices that say "[Speech] %" with a number being in there for your success chance. The higher the speech skill, the better the chance you'll get away with whatever you're going to say. There are quite a few in the Underworld (at least five just after accepting the quest from Crowley, speak with other ghouls in the city), as well as at least one or two per quest. Speak with everyone possible as even some non-quest related people can have challenges.

I was able to find an infinite loop in Little Lamplight. You need high Intelligence for it though. Talk with Knock Knock and ask her what her job is. She will explain her role in helping morale and offer to tell a joke. Agree to hear it, but then you will have the option of interrupting the joke with an "[Intelligence]" dialogue choice. She will think your joke is funnier but tell you what hers would have been. You now have an option to lie and say her joke would have been funny too. Once you win that speech challenge, you will still be able to ask her about her job and repeat the entire dialogue over and over.

There is an infinite speech challenge in Big Town to exploit. When you arrive, speak with Bittercup and agree with her that no one understands you. Once she talks about her dating Pappy, end the conversation and go talk to Pappy. Begin with "You came here with Bittercup, right?" and if he doesn't get upset you will win the challenge. Be warned though, if you do lose this challenge the loop will disappear. Try to make sure you have 100% success chance before using it. This method was patched in version 1.1 unless you clear your cache and remove the patches.

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User Comments
Comment #1 by Raw Jew
Monday, October 18, 2010 @ 07:28:59 PM

Why did it take me all 72 achievements just for this to be the last one?

Comment #2 by GiantBallofOil
Thursday, January 06, 2011 @ 01:10:19 PM

I can confirm (if anyone is just now playing this like me) that the "glitch" with Knock-Knock in Little Lamplight works. I went from 24 speech successes to 50 in no time last night to get the achievement. You don't even have to exit the dialogue!

Comment #3 by n8marezero
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 08:20:17 PM

I did the Knock-Knock one, too. It was kinda weird though:
Gone from x up to 56 in one sitting without leaving the conversation.
Around number 45 I leveled up, yet I didn't quit to assign points and perk.
Doing this I didn't get any XP from the glitch AND the achievement did not pop!
I reloaded my previous save and repeated the glitch.
This time I leveled-up properly and restarted the conversation from 48->49 and 49->50 speech successes. This time the achievement popped.
I cannot guarantee anything, but I think you may not go from 49 to 50 while not having leveled-up properly.

Comment #4 by wxJimG
Thursday, February 17, 2011 @ 10:10:01 AM

Do these glitches still work? I tried the one in Big Town, but it didn't work probably due to the game being auto-updated with a patch.

Comment #5 by APurpleDragon
Tuesday, February 22, 2011 @ 02:18:38 PM

Does this have to be done in one play through or does it stack with previous ones?

Comment #6 by N1GHTSLAYER
Thursday, March 03, 2011 @ 07:01:03 PM

Can I ask if the knock-knock glitch still works, I get experience by doing it however it has not given me an acheivement, i now have 113 speech successes?

Any Help?


Comment #7 by doohhh
Friday, April 08, 2011 @ 04:19:35 AM

I got it with the knock-knock glitch so yep it still works.

Comment #8 by D347H0FL0V3
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 @ 09:08:06 AM

I'm at 53 speech successes after doing the knock-knock glitch and got nothing.

Comment #9 by D347H0FL0V3
Tuesday, April 12, 2011 @ 09:13:01 AM

Got it after I quit and reloaded my save with the 53 successes.

Comment #10 by AtomicThumbs
Friday, May 06, 2011 @ 07:14:16 AM

I just got the achievement today with the Knock-Knock glitch so as of May 2011 it still works.

Comment #11 by andy0vthedead
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 01:02:02 PM

June 2011... still works.

Comment #12 by ScumCookie92
Friday, July 01, 2011 @ 06:59:02 PM

Got it doing glitch, still works...July 2011

Comment #13 by R3d
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 06:11:13 PM

Still works even with the update I recieved today. July 14,11

Comment #14 by R3d
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 06:13:37 PM

received* I also wanted to comment that I had about 15-20 speech successes and now I am at 94. It I only repeated about 20 times, odd. (xbox360)

Comment #15 by Adeodattus
Sunday, July 31, 2011 @ 08:48:23 AM

Little lamplight glitch still there even if you finish the quest in that area?

Comment #16 by fhero
Wednesday, August 03, 2011 @ 05:40:15 PM

comment number 2 it really worked for me!!cool!!m/

Comment #17 by Is BeInG COOL
Monday, September 05, 2011 @ 09:34:35 PM

Lol i didnt even look up the glitch i found out the little lamplitgh one by myself

Comment #18 by 357magnum
Friday, September 09, 2011 @ 06:02:26 AM

Yep, this still works as of Sept 08 2011. Was able to exit dialog and restart, this let me keep track of how close I was getting to 50.

Comment #19 by Repoman
Wednesday, September 14, 2011 @ 11:35:12 PM

Thanks for the update. I am stuck at 46 successes and needed this. Already Finished the game and didn't want to get close to this and screw up again.

Comment #20 by Prole 33
Wednesday, September 21, 2011 @ 07:40:53 AM

Little Lamplight Still Works... #3 has got it right just spam this trick till
47 successes and then leave the conversation with knock knock. restart do
another successes then leave then another then leave until you hit 50 succesess
an the achievement will pop.

Comment #21 by MjBaron13
Tuesday, October 04, 2011 @ 07:00:57 AM

I got this achievement today, worked up to 51, then when it didn't pop
I saved ( I also had saved at 49 just incase ) when i paused and reloaded
my 51 save, the achievement popped, if only I had collected the raven
rock bobblehead, I'd have 1550/1550, 72/72, new playthrough upcoming!

Comment #22 by yeahbutwut
Sunday, October 09, 2011 @ 03:18:29 PM

I just tried #3's trick and it didn't work, saved->reloaded and it popped for me

Comment #23 by RodrigoZeba
Friday, December 09, 2011 @ 08:50:28 PM

Knock Knock glitch still works. I had to reload as well.

Comment #24 by PerryC031
Monday, January 16, 2012 @ 05:38:28 PM

Had to reload twice, but it popped for me at 52 speech successes.

Comment #25 by Death4life
Wednesday, January 25, 2012 @ 04:31:25 AM

I just saved before the speech and if I failed I reloaded. Its best to max out your speech skill early on though to avoid this.

Comment #26 by sizemon
Monday, February 06, 2012 @ 03:46:26 AM

Thanks for this tip, I was getting worried about not having enough successes to get this achievement.

Comment #27 by needtoboost
Wednesday, March 14, 2012 @ 01:08:57 PM

Still works (little lamplight)

Comment #28 by bentbarbie
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 10:08:17 PM

Still works, worked for me March 2012, it was the last bloody one i needed for full gamer score. Just didnt realise, its so easy for speech in New Vegas when i played this before hand i just never really thought about it, until it was the only achievement i needed lol :D

Comment #29 by chrisshack94
Sunday, April 08, 2012 @ 11:14:09 AM

I found this link most helpful.

Comment #30 by deusbrackers
Thursday, June 07, 2012 @ 03:39:43 PM

I can confirm the Little Lamplight glitch works in the GOTY edition - June 2012

Comment #31 by Douchebag Darien
Monday, June 18, 2012 @ 01:51:11 AM

Lvl 50 speech as my last achievement and did it legitly. Play the game guys. Otherwise why get the game? To make your gamer score higher? Last I checked, the higher your GS, the nerdier you are..Greatest game ever! Can't wait for Fallout 4!!!!

Comment #32 by RTmurphmohawk18
Thursday, June 21, 2012 @ 10:22:15 PM

Your gamer tag Gives a good description of you darien

Comment #33 by InfernalMistres
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:44:05 PM

The Knock Knock glitch still works. Thanks for passing the glitch along!

Comment #34 by Yellowflash
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 01:46:17 PM

I had to get to 60 for the cheevo to finally unlock -.-

Comment #35 by PantyxSlayer44
Tuesday, January 15, 2013 @ 05:09:15 PM

I can confirm as of January 15th, you got to get it to 60. (using the knock knock glitch)

Comment #36 by Prowilson123
Wednesday, April 03, 2013 @ 01:55:01 PM

The knock knock glitch still works though it popped up for me on 56

Comment #37 by blinksmilewink
Thursday, June 13, 2013 @ 08:35:56 PM

Knock Knock glitch still working as of June 13th 2013.

Comment #38 by Kira the Strogg
Saturday, October 12, 2013 @ 09:33:22 AM

Sorry to bump this, but this achievement is making me pull my hair out, as I've been trying for years until I lost my original data, that I'm currently in Little Lamplight, and currently trying Knock Knock's glitch, as I'm level 30 while managed to pass 41 speech checks, and do I pick the same option, or do I use both? So far I got up to 62 and no achievements. Can anyone let me know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks!

Comment #39 by HareJordan23
Wednesday, November 27, 2013 @ 07:09:39 PM

11/27/13 still works!

Comment #40 by SOHC08Scooby
Tuesday, January 21, 2014 @ 01:35:54 PM

I have not played this game in sometime but looking to get this as one of my last achievements before starting a play through for the various karma's. I lost track of how much I did it last night but no achievement. I did have a 3MB update unless that is what the earlier posters were talking about, will have to try again tonight and see where I get

Comment #41 by SOHC08Scooby
Tuesday, January 21, 2014 @ 10:02:15 PM

I got it! I had to go back to a point in the game where I could actually gain experience from winning the speech challenges for them to count, I had an INT of 9 with no clothing or food/drug modifiers. I did not reload but just waited a few extra moments and the achievement popped after I stopped conversing with Knock Knock so as of 1/21/14 it still works

Comment #42 by SPARTAN 8554
Saturday, February 22, 2014 @ 10:21:08 PM

Feb.22 2014, the Little Lamplight trick still works. If you get past 50 speech challenges, then exit the conversation your having with Knock Knock. It should pop, if not exit then caverns, that's what happened to me.

Comment #43 by Be5tInTheWorld
Friday, July 18, 2014 @ 05:21:03 PM

July 28, 2014 and the Little Lamplight trick still works.

Comment #44 by shakenotstirred
Thursday, July 31, 2014 @ 01:08:02 AM

July 30th, I can confirm that the Big Town trick still works.

Comment #45 by Affoltre
Tuesday, October 07, 2014 @ 01:46:04 PM

October 9th 2014, Little Lamplight still working. Left conversation after 51 speech success and then while i was leaving the area it popped!

Comment #46 by Redneckmilitia
Wednesday, December 03, 2014 @ 03:20:27 PM

December 3rd, 2014 Little Lamplight still working.

Comment #47 by BradenJM93
Thursday, February 26, 2015 @ 11:20:07 AM

February 26, 2015. Little Lamplight worked fine! Got it after walking away at 53. Doubt this will ever get patched (touch wood).

Comment #48 by Hulse867
Tuesday, May 26, 2015 @ 02:38:16 AM

May 26th, 2015. I can confirm that the Little Lamplight Speech Loop Glitch still works. I went from like 4 to 50 in like 10 or 15 minutes:)

Comment #49 by Drazer76
Wednesday, January 20, 2016 @ 09:45:50 PM

Also, you can get a load of speech tests when you do crowleys shoot em in the head mission.
7 when you speak to all the ghouls about him, then another one from him.
One when you visit three of the four targets, then four when you visit Dave (one of the four targets, particularly if you haven't visited him at all yet, as two are not mission related..

Thats nearly a third of them in one mission, so grinding isn't so much necessary I don't think unless you fail loads through the game

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Game Info


US October 28, 2008
Europe October 31, 2008

Backward compatible on Xbox One: Yes
Price: $14.99USD
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