Forza Horizon

Forza Horizon Achievements

Harder Driving

Win a Rally stage on Hard opponent difficulty without using automatic shifting or the Driving Line.

When you start a race, you need to press  and go to the Difficulty menu and change the options to match the requirements needed as described in the achievement description. Here are the options so you don't miss a thing:

Braking: ABS ON
Steering: Normal
Traction control: ON
Shifting: Manual
Driving line: OFF
Cosmetic damage: ON
Rewind: ON
Opponent difficulty: HARD

NOTE: If you only put the "Game difficulty" on HARD setting, it won't count, since it leaves shifting to "Automatic" and driving line to "Braking only".
NOTE2: You CAN use rewind to help you if you feel the need for that. You might confuse it to be not allowed since the other options will be on hard but it is very usable.

Here is a detailed video guide by Maka:

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User Comments
Comment #1 by crsbrwn2000
Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 01:22:17 PM

Well that sucks

Comment #2 by Baltimore12
Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 01:45:53 PM


Comment #3 by Wesker188
Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 03:07:26 PM

well we can still use the rewind ability not has hard has sound, we just need to be very paciente in a race and done, well at least all of us that are not use to drive without assists.

Comment #4 by pegaso650
Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 03:40:58 PM

The description says: "without using automatic shifting or the Driving Line"; it doesnt say: "without using automatic shifting AND the Driving Line".
Maybe can use at least one of the two, just cant use both together.

Comment #5 by Snowed
Friday, December 14, 2012 @ 07:16:55 PM

@4 That's not the way English works. Not saying you won't be correct (English scholars don't write achievements), but reading the achievement correctly you cannot use either.

Comment #6 by INEEDNAWZZZ
Saturday, December 15, 2012 @ 05:20:13 AM

I don't see why everyone assumes it will be difficult. If it's anything like the first race in the game, even putting it on hard mode won't make it difficult as they basically just hand you the win by putting you against inferior cars to yours.

Comment #7 by sleezecheeze
Sunday, December 16, 2012 @ 05:24:15 AM

#4 has a very good point, maybe we don't need both? Maybe it's just one that needs to be turned off?

This seems to be the most difficult out of the DLC chieves, but it shouldn't be hard at all. 3-4 races max.

Remember that you can use the rewind feature guys, it won't make it difficult at all. If you screw up a corner just make sure you rewind it and take it again. The most important thing is getting out front fast, you don't want to be chasing people all race. Just get out front and focus on your ideal line.

Comment #8 by pegaso650
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 10:36:34 AM

Unfortunately I was wrong and #5 was right, both automatic shifting and drive line must be disabled.
Drive line is actually useless since the co-driver gives you indications anyway.

Comment #9 by DanAsker
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 12:47:36 PM

I am quite an adequate driver at Forza, having almost maxed out gamerscore on Forza 2, 3, 4 and Horizon. HOWEVER, this achievement is so stupidly hard? The rally setup forced upon you hinders your car so much, and no matter how well I feel I drove, I always end up around 10th place. I was using the Subaru WRX Sti on the first stage of Kettle Hills and I couldn't beat 10th place after about 5 goes. Does anybody have any suggestions? Have you done it?

Comment #10 by LL13JCS
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 01:45:56 PM

6th place so far in the ranks on the first stage you do after the qualifying... not easy taking the perfect lines just to get 6th

Comment #11 by LL13JCS
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 01:53:07 PM

bloody hell ok that took about 10 attempts but I managed it, use rewind, and do it bit by bit. first section you need 1st, second no lower than 6th, 3rd no lower than 2nd...if you dont get a corner perfect rewind and take it again...(last hairpin I took about 55mph)

Comment #12 by o D M C o
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 04:51:30 PM

Do this one on the 2nd stage of the 1st rally. Tha A.I sets a really crap time that is easily beatable in the Subaru within a couple of attempts

Comment #13 by JCW 60 MINI
Tuesday, December 18, 2012 @ 06:23:15 PM

Guys, use the tip given in #12. I did this after only my second attempt. It's actually VERY easy this way! Thanks a lot!

Comment #14 by sleezecheeze
Wednesday, December 19, 2012 @ 01:06:44 AM

Did it in 4 tries and I hate manual trans. I've never used it before so I thought this would be hard but it wasn't

I did it on the first stage of the first rally. It's short and reasonably easy. I used the EVO 8 and just got used to the track. First try I got 22nd, second try 17, third try I got 11 or something and then won it afterwards. Just stick to the same stage so that you get used to it. On the uphill section of R1S1 you can sit in the grass on the outside (right side) and then swing in to take the medium corners at full speed in 4th-5th gear. Don't worry about crashing because if you do mess it up then just rewind and have another shot at the corner.

The driving line isn't an issue because you have a co-driver walking you through it all.

Comment #15 by Alvarez Azel
Wednesday, December 19, 2012 @ 09:30:31 AM

Did this 1st try on the North plains - stage 1 (the first night rally)
Used the Mitsu Lancer, pretty much stay in 6th gear the whole way and only down shift to 5th when needed, simply just keep the car as stable as possible and do not drift it much at all, use rewind if you mess up. Sorted.

Comment #16 by sluggish
Friday, December 21, 2012 @ 03:42:11 AM

fuck that gay ass bull shit tried both lancers and subaru do it perfect still cant do it

Comment #17 by Dylang01
Saturday, December 22, 2012 @ 04:32:06 AM

as #15 said if you do it on North Plains stage 1 it's pretty easy. I used the 2005 Subaru WRX STi. I got 10th first try, 6th second try and first by about 2 seconds on the third try. I would recommend leaving this achievement until the end that way you get to know how to drive a rally car as opposed to road racing cars in normal Forza.

Comment #18 by scoobydrew007
Sunday, December 23, 2012 @ 11:36:09 AM

Easier than you think. First
rally, second stage for Me . Just a bit of practice.

Comment #19 by Ganondorfadmiral
Monday, December 24, 2012 @ 03:52:56 PM

i think turn 10 are just compensating because they made such a quick to complete game

Comment #20 by htgeek7
Saturday, January 12, 2013 @ 12:33:48 AM

Very easy!! 1st race of the 3rd rally challenge, pick the lancer. Keep the car in 4th the whole race and have rewind on, got this in two tries!!

Comment #21 by Olliezilla
Friday, January 18, 2013 @ 09:36:05 AM

First race of the 3rd rally as mentioned above was the one I got it on. It's easy as a lot of it is in 5th/6th gear so you are rarely shifting gears. (didn't use rewind was easy enough)!

Comment #22 by SurferBoy David
Sunday, February 24, 2013 @ 07:10:16 AM


Comment #23 by Massive Tempah
Thursday, March 21, 2013 @ 05:38:27 AM

Stage 2 in the 1st rally, use chase cam, that helps alot. I did it 3rd time of trying.

Comment #24 by lankyjustin
Tuesday, April 02, 2013 @ 09:37:18 AM

2nd attempt, i also do not use manual, however, if you have the volume up you can hear when to change gear. I just did the first rally event and the second stage and won by over a second.

Comment #25 by The Cipriani
Sunday, April 21, 2013 @ 09:29:40 PM

haha finally an achievement that's easy for us who drive like this anyway, and really difficult for babies who have all the aids turned on !!!

Comment #26 by The Cipriani
Sunday, April 21, 2013 @ 09:32:32 PM

... yep did it first time on the 1st race, without rewind, easy when its everyday stuff !

Comment #27 by Napalm
Tuesday, May 07, 2013 @ 03:11:30 AM

quite hard to start with.
thanks to the people talking about rally 3, race 1.
quite simple if you take advantage of that rewind button :)

Comment #28 by Jake0874
Wednesday, August 07, 2013 @ 04:44:47 PM

Fuck this achievement

Comment #29 by Dark Angel Arus
Tuesday, August 20, 2013 @ 03:40:02 AM

#15 - Bang on. Rally 3, stage 1. Impreza, stay in 5th gear. Did it 1st try!

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Turn 10 Studios


US October 23, 2012
Europe October 26, 2012

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