Mass Effect

Mass Effect Achievements


Use Charm or Intimidate to resolve an impossible situation   

There are two "impossible" situations in the game, both of which require you to have very high levels in charm or intimidate. Only focus on one, as putting points in the other is a waste. If you do not have enough, you will not have enough to resolve the situation. Both these decisions are made in the second half of the game, and contain spoilers for those have not made it that far.

Your first impossible situation is on Virmire, and it involves Wrex. When you find out that the facility Saren is using on the planet is to cure the genophage, and plan to destroy it, Wrex becomes extremely upset. You must talk with him, and try to reason with him as to why the facility must be destroyed. If you have 8 points in either of the alignment skills, you will be able to talk him down from his stance, and he will agree to keep on fighting, which unlocks the achievement.

The second impossible situation takes place during the finale of the game, on the Citadel. When you finally are able to get to the top of the tower, in the Council Chambers, you will find Saren. After talking with him, you must convince him that he's become indoctrinated, and that there's only one way to end it. Your skills need to be very high to unlock these dialogue options. If you are able to convince him to commit suicide, you will unlock the achievement.

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Comment #1 by cpt nice
Thursday, May 26, 2011 @ 10:04:32 AM

A good place to do this is on Virmire. *SPOILER ALERT!!!: Use renegade or paragon dialogue to convince Wrex to stay loyal to you. Achievement will pop up as soon as conversation ends.
Note that you need 8 renegade or paragon points for this. if you already gave Wrex his family armor, you can just convince him not to attack you and you'll still get the achievement

Comment #2 by RogueSatedan
Sunday, June 12, 2011 @ 09:00:28 PM

the other option for this is at the end of the game. when you face (the bad guy, forgot his name) the last time in the citadel you can convince him to kill himself. if he does you will get the achievement as well.

online (and on the paragon 75% and renegade 75% achievement comments) you can find a glitch that will allow you to get unlimited points and ensure this achievement is no problem.

Comment #3 by SSSSSS
Sunday, February 26, 2012 @ 04:51:45 PM

You can also complete this if you helped Wrex get his armor back. No need to worry about having enough Paragon/Renegade points. Well, i'm not 100% sure about that, but i resolved the situation anyway.

When you talk to him (i was Paragon), there's a unique dialogue about trusting Shepard because you helped him, and where i could normally select the Paragon choice, there was a different option in yellow with the same result.

Basically you could see this as his loyalty mission, even before this concept was introduced in Mass Effect 2.

Comment #4 by Iceskater101
Thursday, July 19, 2012 @ 07:00:57 PM

Is there anyway to miss this achievement? For the Virmire part, I am not using Wrex as one of my characters.

Comment #5 by PsychicPsycho 0
Thursday, September 27, 2012 @ 02:58:57 AM

I went through this with Wrex during all 3 playthroughs, and convinced Saren for the first 2. The third time I pressed the wrong option and had to fight him XP.

To #4: I assume you already found out, but no, having Wrex as one of your 2 main allies doesn't matter.

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Game Info


US November 20, 2007
Europe November 23, 2007

Resolution: 720p
Sound: Dolby 5.1 Surround
Players: 1
ESRB: Mature
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