Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution

Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution Achievements

Indistinguishable From Magic

Win a Technology victory on Deity difficulty.    

Choose the Lightning Scenario.
Choose the Aztecs as your Civilization or the Greeks.

To achieve a technological win in the Lightning scenario, one only has to get into the modern age, (24 total techs researched). So there will be no space station launching going on. Aztecs will help you achieve this since they get +3 science per temple they have built. Or the Greeks will help you achieve this as they get more Great People.

You start off with 3 cities with an archer in each.

The best thing to do is to go into the city screen and customize the workers. You're gonna have 1 big city, 1 medium city and 1 small city. All cities should have at least 2 science production. This is how I like to have them set up. Small city = 2 science, 2 food, & 2 production. Medium city = 4 science, 2 food, & 2 production. Large city = 4 science, 2 food, & 4 production.

Now please note that those are really just estimates, but should be close to that. I’m also going to warn right now, that you can find out from the beginning if you have a good chance of winning or not. If your cities are around a lot of land and not a lot or water, quit right away because you're not going to win easily…if at all. If you are around a good bit of water then let me warn you when I say that a lot of this can and maybe will fall down to whether you get a certain great person or not.

Once you have built a library and a temple, customize your workers again. Maybe this time give some cities some more science, and for your largest city bump up the production just a bit while still managing to have science. Pick the quickest science you can research every time until you see democracy in the list, (if 2 techs take the same time, figure out which one helps towards getting Democracy and research that). Research Democracy then switch to Democracy as soon as you have it researched and then continue researching the shortest tech.

Some extra tips:

  • Once you reach 100 gold and receive a settler, settle him into your largest city that’s surrounded by water. Don’t bother making a new city, it’ll be a waste of time.
  • After building the library and temple, you have to build the Courthouse. Doing this will allow you to become a high science producing city. Once you’ve got about 15-17 technologies researched, you should have a courthouse in every city, and all you have to do is put your production on science for each city.
  • Also, make sure that once you have enough gold, build roads connecting your cities, and use 1 city to build some defensive units Archers or Pikemen and then ship them to other cities. Your gonna be at war with other civs…you can’t stop that unless you manage to get a great person early in the game and you build the great wall, so your gonna have to build some defensive units. If you get lucky enough that they only focus on one city, then make sure that city has an army of Archers, and maybe a back up and you should be good.
  • Do not give away technology for peace. I mean seriously? All your asking for is to lose.

Tips on how to use great people:

When you get Great People, the best thing to do is to us them for their powers right away. If you get a Great Person, don’t settle them take their gifts!

There is only one exception, if you get a great scientist, settle him into your largest city that is surrounded by a lot of water.

If you should get a Great Person that would allow you to complete a wonder immediately, I would definitely recommend that you use that to get the Great Wall built, (meaning you’ll have peace while researching techs so you won’t have to worry about building defense units), or the Colossus of Rhodes, (which will up the amount of science being researched.)

If you get a Great Person that will give you gold, take that gold.

If you get a Great Person that will give +1 population to your cities, take the +1 population.

Know that this achievement is tough, but this scenario is quick. If you get half way and they suggest that you save, don’t even bother, if you lose just retry it again. This scenario is an easy way to get a difficult achievement, and luck of the draw when it comes to Great People is going to make you or break you.

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User Comments
Comment #1 by llawliet2358
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 09:15:03 PM

I need some help with this. I am having an extremely tough time getting this achievement done. If you have completed it, please help me, because the guide they give is not helping at all.

Comment #2 by sillyjordo
Tuesday, March 01, 2011 @ 11:00:47 AM

I've tried about 20 times using the guide's method, and I also get no joy. I think it requires some serious luck. Has anyone gotten this achievement using a different strategy?

Comment #3 by Neo NL
Saturday, April 09, 2011 @ 07:28:22 AM

You will have to customize your working fields for your city and u need to be very lucky i think.

Comment #4 by Etheltir
Tuesday, May 24, 2011 @ 09:37:41 AM

I'm actually not sure how I did it exactly, but on Deity difficulty I found the Aztec regeneration after battle to be invaluable. I actually used the same save to get ALL of the Deity achievements, and yeah, I feel I got lucky in a few spots.

Comment #5 by Avenell
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 01:39:22 PM

By the time my library and temple are done there's a army of cannons heading my way !!! what a frustrating achievement!!!

Comment #6 by Avenell
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 03:59:46 PM

Scrap that last comment i am indeed 'Indistiguishable From Magic'

Comment #7 by MelBayBeeXx
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 @ 09:03:33 AM

It makes it so much easier if you build a fourth city completely surrounded by water when you get the settlers for having 100 gold, don't bother putting them in your big city just build a new one and put it straight on science. Plus, you're gonna want to put all your cities on science straight away and have money to rush everything, only bother with the libraries and temples, you won't have time for anything else. It's also near impossible if you don't use the Aztecs.

Comment #8 by Jake12137
Thursday, July 14, 2011 @ 02:40:51 AM

F**k this achievement -.-

The Aztecs suck.

Comment #9 by Jake12137
Saturday, July 23, 2011 @ 03:45:51 AM

To hell with this achievement lol.

I got it on my 30th+ try. I used the Japanese and all three cities were surrounded by water.

Comment #10 by Aldrahn69
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 01:53:17 AM

Still trying for this. Starting to seriously frustrate me!

Gonna try #7's suggestion and post again if I succeed or if I figure anything new in the process.

Comment #11 by E1Conquistadork
Wednesday, September 07, 2011 @ 10:54:47 AM

The way I did it was to use the Mongols in the "Money is What Matters" scenario. With the extra cash I started with, I was able to rush build libraries in my conquered barbarian cities and get a decent headstart on the other civs.

Comment #12 by X360DragonDEMON
Friday, September 23, 2011 @ 07:48:48 PM

Another way of obtaining this achievement is to play Blitzkrieg with the Aztecs and get some cities running. While doing this research technologies while avoiding conflicts with enemies. Later on in the game, when the enemies are much less technologically advanced than your civilization, try and win some more cities. Getting the artifacts helps alot as well.

Comment #13 by J4ckyb0y1
Friday, September 30, 2011 @ 03:44:08 AM

Choose the Lightning Scenario.
Choose Japan as your Civilization.

Comment #14 by argobeat
Saturday, December 24, 2011 @ 05:02:17 AM

had so much trouble on this, tried about 30x with the Aztecs and Greeks - Nothing. Tried it once with the Japanese and won.

If you're having trouble, try the Japanese.

Comment #15 by Modest Justin
Monday, January 23, 2012 @ 10:42:10 AM

#9 & #14 Completely true.... I lost 50x with greek and aztecs... Won the first time with Japanese Thanks!!! this achievement is so hard without help.

Comment #16 by sillyjordo
Thursday, February 09, 2012 @ 05:14:00 PM

this guide is not useful.

I've tried this around 50 times. no dice.

Has anyone else seen any other strategies?

Comment #17 by AmAiizIn
Sunday, February 19, 2012 @ 04:40:50 AM

I got it 1st try with the Zulu on MazeWorld.

Comment #18 by bigsigger
Sunday, March 04, 2012 @ 09:20:23 PM

all of u are pathetic. got it first try with japanese with only three cities not generating more than 200 science each. and i played a regular game and not a easy scenario. I got it but was close call cuz french were building a world bank. but here goes nothing. get at least four cities next to coast lines and work on temples/ libraries get a ok culture to expand and build a university when u unluck it. Plus build an army of archers for each city. this is good enough protection till u build leonardo's workshop which should bring them to riflemen. also once u unlock space flight use the four cities to rush one of each component of the space ship. and take off. or if u still have money rush three more propulsions. Enjoy

Comment #19 by WIN308ROB
Saturday, April 14, 2012 @ 08:15:14 PM

5th try on Japan!

Comment #20 by Briack360
Thursday, June 07, 2012 @ 09:12:09 PM

Wow 1st try on japan

Comment #21 by DaintyChristine
Saturday, June 30, 2012 @ 02:48:49 PM

Got it with Japanese on the first try.

Comment #22 by J-NaDa
Saturday, June 30, 2012 @ 11:00:58 PM

Honestly, this achievement is all about luck if you're doing the lightning round. I got it with the Greeks for 1/2 price library and their automatic knowledge of Democracy. It was my 5th try (2nd using Greeks), I had all 3 cities in a corner with only access to the Indians. I went for technology that I figured no one had as long as it no greater than 4 or 5 turns (5 is pushing it) while still researching a lot of the 2s and 3s. Ghandi didn't break our treaty until I was at 20+ technologies.

1. Build libraries and switch to Democracy
2. Send some archers out to find stuff/villages
3. Go for a couple of 4 or 5 turn techs and hope that no one else has them (the automatic buildings/units are useful)
4. Set cities to science while building/gold-rushing hoplites
5. Hope you win de

Comment #23 by J-NaDa
Saturday, June 30, 2012 @ 11:02:07 PM

5. Hope you win defense battles when you're attacked.

Try all of that in no particular order (other than numbers 1 and 2). Good luck!

Comment #24 by madpigeon12
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 11:53:44 PM

I was gonna pretty much write out a strategy guide but it wouldn't let me haha.. pretty much build three main cities that all protect each other and are at least four blocks away from each other, research pottery then masonry for the walls bonus, research whichever gives you library, then build up defensive units in all three of your cities, build libraries temples and granaries, then walls. Then whatever(university, cathedral, whatever the city requires), while remembering to upgrade your defenses every available time. If performed correctly the enemies attacks on your cities should fail long enough for you to become the leader in technology. And once this happens you can build up tanks in your production city and artillery (accompanied by a defensive unit) to go through and kick their a

Comment #25 by madpigeon12
Wednesday, August 08, 2012 @ 11:55:12 PM

also don't forget courthouses, they are very important

Comment #26 by manitoo137
Tuesday, January 29, 2013 @ 04:21:40 PM

I don't why people are having so much trouble with this, I got it on the first try. I followed the guide using the Aztecs. All three of my cities were really close the water, so I think that helped because that helps you get more science production. None of the other countries declared war, I only met two and they both kept peace with me the whole time. Just build the libraries right away and then pump up science production. You only need 24 techs discovered to win (any tech will do).

Comment #27 by Ghostrider2600
Sunday, March 03, 2013 @ 07:15:52 AM

Soo tough...

Comment #28 by TheSaferHouse
Thursday, March 14, 2013 @ 01:05:35 AM

I used the strategy outlined here -

It worked quite well. I just used the three cities you start with, I didn't bother exploring for artifacts and you definitely want to keep peace with other civs whenever possible... with good city locations you should get this quite easily!

Comment #29 by hairybeast88
Monday, April 15, 2013 @ 05:23:38 AM

FINALLY got this one!! I used the Japanese, and pretty much copied the guide mentioned. Safe to say you DO need to have a bit of luck on your side as well

Comment #30 by WickedSupergirl
Friday, February 28, 2014 @ 10:35:23 PM

I'm like not stupid or bad @games and like this achievement makes me want 2 rage. Like everytime freaking time I try this it's like the other nations only attack me while 1 of the cpu nations rushes and scores the win. It's like hey look Rome is building a space ship...LETS ATTACK THE HUMAN! #frustrated

Comment #31 by Hijack2U
Thursday, March 06, 2014 @ 06:58:24 AM

I have noticed one thing about the achievement is that some times they put your damn capitol right
Next to a domination civil, or put our two lesser cities right next to a enemy capitol. Then they immediately get converted to them. This achievement sucks.
Ought to get out my rabbits feet and 4 leaf clovers for this one.

Comment #32 by Ventrue BR
Friday, March 07, 2014 @ 04:44:15 PM

Hey guys, I got it at my 5th try, with the Aztecs.
Here some tips. I hope it helps.

1) Choose the Aztecs! I don´t know why some guys are talking about the Japanese being the best. They don´t have the temple bonus (wich is really useful, since the lightning scenario is nothing but a race for the prize)

2)Start the game and check the following:
a)At least 2 of your cities are surrounded by a GREAT AMOUNT of water? If not, don´t even try - you´ll lose. Instead, quit and start a new game.
b)Are there another civilizations nearby? If so, don´t waste your time - they´ll hunt you down for the entire game, and you´ll be forced to waste precious time building defences. Remember, IT´S A RACE! Focus on science!

Talking a bit more about another civilizations: if you find one of them nea

Comment #33 by Ventrue BR
Friday, March 07, 2014 @ 04:45:26 PM

Talking a bit more about another civilizations: if you find one of them near to you in the early turns, quit and try again. Trust me. It´s almost impossible defend yourself and focus on science at the same time. However, it´s ok if you find them on the later turns, ´cause you´ll have enough time to finish the game before they cause you enough trouble.

Remember: 2 cities with massive amount of water nearby are enough. The 3th one may have less, but NEVER go on with a 3th city with no water.

I hope it helps.
Sorry about my broken English :D

Comment #34 by CyberSh3ff
Friday, March 07, 2014 @ 07:21:00 PM

Having struggled a number of times with the Aztecs I decided to take the majority of peoples advice here and switch to the Japanese. I managed to do it the first time round and I definitely think it has a lot to do with luck. I managed to do get to 24 technologies with no worries what so ever, didn't get attacked and didn't even have any close competition!

Comment #35 by MNcrewDeMedici
Saturday, March 08, 2014 @ 12:09:26 PM

The trick for this achievement also is to get a galley ship asap. Then search the waters for the wancient artifact that completes multiple techs. If you are ahead in the game another civilisation can beat you with it when they find it sooner. what also helps is when you get a settler when reached 100 gold make another city near alot of water and that also boosts yre tech lvl. This achievement was the only one i didn't get in 1 time it can be a pain. good luck :) if you need help add me on XBOX

Comment #36 by HaloMonkey
Sunday, March 09, 2014 @ 10:12:51 AM

I was having trouble with the aztecs so I switched to the japanese and got it first try :D

Comment #37 by VagrantAsylum
Saturday, March 15, 2014 @ 03:39:25 AM

The easiest way I found to get this achievement is by playing Lightening Round scenario with the Greeks. You start off by switching to a Democracy to give yourself a 50% boost to sciences. You'll start off with city #1 including a courthouse which will give you greater access to waterborne resources and increase your sciences down the road as your population increases. As the Greeks you'll also get more Great People, giving you a greater chance of scientific boosts and/or other goodies. Try to balance your workers to a 2/1/1 ratio of science/production/food in the beginning stages to kick start your science production while still giving yourself abilities to build buildings/defenses. Get a Library built ASAP as you want that doubled sciences statistic early; the earlier you obtain it

Comment #38 by VagrantAsylum
Saturday, March 15, 2014 @ 03:41:09 AM

didn't realize the replies were character limited. I'll retype this out soon enough and keep a notepad copy so I don't lose the entire thing again.

Comment #39 by mikesayre
Sunday, March 16, 2014 @ 08:49:50 PM

This achievement us seriously impossible for me...I've tried like 30 times with japs

Comment #40 by cavedweller42
Monday, March 17, 2014 @ 11:47:32 PM

For the TL;DR crowd:
Japan: Have 4+ sea tiles per city. Work only sea and production tiles (all food from sea). Save often and correct mistakes (defenses, rush jobs, etc.)

Japan is the key. Like many others, I've tried Greek & Aztec repeatedly to no avail, then succeeded first time out with Japan. Perhaps it's luck or perhaps modeling real life, but my starting cities all had minimum 4 water tiles. The advantage to Japan is food from the sea, obviating the need for terrestrial farming. By placing any non-production workers on sea tiles, you will produce more science right from the start. Build libraries in all cities, a temple in your largest city, then adaptively build units, courthouses, universities, etc. as your game dictates. I won with two courthouses and no universities. You

Comment #41 by cavedweller42
Monday, March 17, 2014 @ 11:55:16 PM

choose what to do with Settlers. I put them in my largest city. Remember to save often and correct mistakes; it's better than relying on luck every time. That being said: Good luck!

Comment #42 by Twisted Name
Tuesday, March 18, 2014 @ 04:13:02 PM

at last, did this with the Japs, on lighting round. started next to lots of water with all 3 cities. tweaked workers a bit, made them focus more on production and science. Built library, temple, courthouse and a few troops cause the germans were giving me some jip. Then whacked all workers to science for the rest of the round. oh i also switched to a democracy asap. and settled the 2 great scientists i got.

it does seem to come down to luck on the lightning round. tried so many times with other races. but yey. japan. you crazy bastards.

Comment #43 by jswartz0181
Friday, March 21, 2014 @ 04:17:30 AM

@32, the reason Japan is better than the Aztecs to many (myself included, as I got it second try), is 1.) sea tiles produce food too, so your city grows as you research, thus being able to research/produce more, 2.) you start with Ceremonial Burial, so one less tech to research, 3.) you're more likely to have your cities around lots of water (or be isolated on islands as I was when I won) and 4.) about the time you research Democracy, you will gain no anarchy in cities, thus allowing for a seamless switch.

Comment #44 by hoeleng
Wednesday, March 26, 2014 @ 11:25:09 AM

Got it as Japan, and in a round with both the Greeks and Aztecs in it. Your cities need to start with a lot of water to make things easier (2 of mine were on islands)

Comment #45 by b1zarr0
Thursday, March 27, 2014 @ 10:30:55 PM

Starting to think this achievement cannot be done. No matter how good of a pace I get to with researching technologies there seems to always be some other damn civ that apparently starts off at least a few more from the get go.

Starting to think that anyone claiming to be able to get this is actually doing hacks >.< lol

Comment #46 by b1zarr0
Thursday, March 27, 2014 @ 10:50:54 PM

Woot! I managed to get it with Japan.

But only on the grounds that I lucked out and managed to be the first to discover Navigation (when I was able to discover it in 3 turns) AND lucked out and found Atlantis which let me get a few technologies ahead of the other Civs.

so what I can gather, being the first to discover Atlantis while being able to good science production is key (aka a fair degree of dumb luck -_- )

Comment #47 by b1zarr0
Thursday, March 27, 2014 @ 10:54:17 PM

Sorry for the triple post but, to add on to my existing posts

I got it with the Japanese in the Lightning Round scenario.

It also gave me the "Power Never Backs Down" achievement for winning with only one city somehow

Whatever, glitch works in my favor (or the smaller cities you start with in lightning round don't count as cities) >.>

Comment #48 by CptRexKramer
Sunday, April 27, 2014 @ 12:24:23 PM

This achievement is HORRIBLE. I've tried it on my own, I've tried using other methods read from the web. NOTHING works. I can keep pace with the other nations through half of the game, and then BAM! One or two rocket out ahead. Just can't keep pace. Achievements based more on dumb chance that skill are such a bore. Well, like a fool, I'll keep on trying.

Comment #49 by Sphinx USMC
Sunday, May 18, 2014 @ 11:43:08 AM

Japan and luck is the key. I wasn't attacked at all, and all the techs were 2turns or less, won by a 5tech margin.

Comment #50 by PMonk
Sunday, May 18, 2014 @ 02:22:43 PM

i used the greeks on lightning
i had an eventual easy victory. navigation and exploration is the key
i discovered the hanging gardens and the oracle of delphi (yes lucky) but that made it an easy victory
the main point of exploration is so the other civs CAN'T get the bonuses

Comment #51 by GirGASM
Wednesday, May 28, 2014 @ 02:58:23 PM

Yeah, screw the Aztecs in this one the Japanese have it so much easier if you're surrounded by water because they get 1 food from every water space so you can just set all of it to science with 1 or 2 on production and you'll be leaps and bounds past everyone else.

Comment #52 by LanternFlash
Thursday, June 05, 2014 @ 10:26:03 PM

People still struggling with this one... I tried the Aztecs and the Romans or HOURS and many failed attempts.

Tonight I did it first try without thinking, here's my advice.
1) Play as the Japanese.
3) Play Lightning Round scenario, so you don't have to worry about space, and other nations focus less on combat.
4) When the game starts, check that all your cities have at least 3 ocean titles. If they don't, quit immediately and start again. Do the same if another civilization is too close or in the middle of you.
5) As the game begins, use your warriors to check where you are. If you're surrounded, quit and start again. I was lucky enough to be on a peninsula with my winning game.
6) Research the fastest items, then research and adopt democracy a

Comment #53 by Jaaycub
Friday, June 20, 2014 @ 02:23:29 AM

Got it on my second attempt with the Japanese after seeing others say it was easiest. Played on the Lightning Round scenario. Way easier than I thought it would be. Would recommend playing as the Japanese, just like most else would.

Comment #54 by Poklopoklop
Monday, August 18, 2014 @ 05:59:44 AM

I just got this achievo using the Aztecs and I had tried about 10 times before this. What won it for me was buying technology from the other civilizations. I bought 3 different techs for like 300 coins but had I not done that I would have lost so I hope this helps some of you

Comment #55 by Prod1gymax699
Sunday, October 26, 2014 @ 07:28:40 AM

This achievement is just pure luck

Comment #56 by DG Egotistical
Saturday, December 13, 2014 @ 12:08:24 AM

I keep starting to close to other civs. and they just bum rush me before i even get a chance to start anything. before i even start building temples i lose at least one city right.

Comment #57 by DG Egotistical
Saturday, December 13, 2014 @ 12:59:22 AM

okay, so as a last ditch effort I broke the rules and traded techs with other leaders. so if you tie it up, you still win. I had bought and sold everything possible and actually gave 2 other civs 24 techs, and one 26 techs. I was only at 24, but i still 6 this to pop

Comment #58 by CountDeMony
Sunday, March 29, 2015 @ 05:20:33 AM

like #51, Yeah, screw the Aztecs. Go with the Japanese. 2nd try with Japan! Remember to save at the very beginning, just in case you have a good set up.

Comment #59 by TytanikZer0
Sunday, June 21, 2015 @ 01:32:35 AM

Same as everyone else...Aztecs are handy for healing but you just get bum rushed, usually by the Zulus, while an undiscovered civ just runs away with the tech (always revealed to be Japan after they win).

Play as Japan, make sure every city has water around it, and if you're lucky, a great person will flip a city for you. Also use the settlers to make a city on a peninsula, rush library, and courthouse if you have the gold, and just farm science.

Beyond that, be lucky. Aztec fails = 10, Japan attempts to win = 1.

Comment #60 by karat3explosion
Monday, April 17, 2017 @ 05:51:09 PM

I concur with others on this list that Japan is the way to go. I just spent a full week playing this exact scenario. Japan and their usage of Sea squares for science was key. I built libraries in 2 of the cities and added Courthouses to double the production available. I was turning in about 100 culture per turn. To prevent another country invasion, I traded a technology, reluctantly. This helped give me peace for 6 turns, long enough to squeak out a victory. I was only one tech ahead of my closest competitor.
A very satisfied 100% on that game!!

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US June 03, 2008
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