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Festive Feature #5 - Top 5 Game Worlds of 2010

Festive Feature #5 - Top 5 Game Worlds of 2010

Written Friday, December 24, 2010 By Dan Webb
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Immersion isn’t just a type of paint or a type of jet engine – baddumtish – oh no, it’s an important aspect for game developers in bringing the most of out their games. In sandbox games and RPGs especially, the worlds themselves are one of the game’s most important characters, and in 2010, we’ve seen some of the most immersive and beautiful game worlds ever conceived. What better than to lavish them with praise in our final top 5 of 2010 then? The simple answer is: there’s nothing better.

In what has been the most laborious and painstaking, yet absolute fun to create finale, we looked at a lot more than just the worlds themselves, but what the developers had done to bring them alive; be it with people, specific locations or whatever; we ripped these bad boys apart. It wasn’t enough for us to just explain why in this feature either, we felt we had to go one better and create a sample video of what made these worlds so great for each game.

Kicking off our countdown and coming in at number 5 is 2K Czech’s Mafia II and its hugely impressive Empire Bay. The game itself might not have been one of the year’s most inspiring adventures, but the game world did everything right.

The 1940s and 50s inspired American city had a touch of everything and boasted more charm than an Irish salesman. It wasn’t enough for 2K Czech to have two diverse seasons portrayed either – including both the snow laden streets of 1945 and the more warmer climates of 1951 – but the attention to detail on and around the streets was something to behold. Bumping into people shouting up at windows, shop keepers boarding up their windows and neighbouring couples allowing their disagreements to spill out into the halls of Vito’s apartment, are all part of the hugely personal Mafia II experience. It’s definitely a benefit and a by-product of having a scripted and heavily mission driven game, and 2K Czech have created a sense of illusion in what is usually an unpredictable sandbox environment.

 

Deciding on where to put Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood’s Rome in our top 5 was quite the head scratcher. Sure, Ubisoft Montreal’s Rome was a cultural hotspot and they had perfectly reconstructed the city’s iconic buildings, like the Pantheon and the Colosseum, but the Renaissance didn’t feel as fresh this time around.

With such a charming array of characters that littered the streets though, from minstrels and fire-breathers, to street performers and artists, Assassin’s Creed: Brotherhood definitely deserved a place on the list. Thanks to the beautiful score from Jesper Kyd and Ubisoft Montreal’s great work with their day and night cycle, regardless of whether a Renaissance inspired Rome didn’t have the same impact as it did last year, it was still rather special.

 

It’s very rare outside of Stephen King books and films that we actually get to see portrayals of rather bizarre Pacific Northwestern towns like that created in Alan Wake. On the surface and in the day, Bright Falls is a bubbling hotpot of unique and quirky characters who you can’t help but warm to. It has everything you’d expect from a tiny town in the middle of nowhere, with iconic locations and picturesque views everywhere you turn.

When darkness cloaks this little mountainous town though, Mr Wake is thrust into the depths of Bright Falls and the game excels on another footing, pushing you into eerie crevices that are absolutely delightful under the shining gaze of a beaming moon and its surrounding stars. Watching light clash with dark wouldn’t have been the same anywhere else and Remedy have done a fantastic job in recreating a rather bizarre town that has more character and more to it than the main character himself. In short, it’s a right beauty!

 

This wouldn’t be a top 5 game worlds list of 2010 without BioWare’s latest space opera making an appearance. In short, Mass Effect 2’s expansive universe is everything you’d want in a classic sci-fi setting, with space stations galore and wonderfully painted backdrops to boot. That’s not even scratching the surface though, as not only have BioWare created a handful of beautiful settings, fit for any sci-fi flick, but they’ve continued to do so again and again, and again, and again.

It’s not like they just created the neon soaked super cities found on the Citadel and on Illium and then rested on their own laurels, oh no, when you factor in places like Omega, The Migrant Fleet, Tuchanka, Horizon, Freedom’s Progress, Purgatory, Korlus, Zorya and more – which are all beautifully realised and truly unique locations – then it’s clear that the complete package is one that is simply quite stunning. That’s not including places like the Normandy-SR2 and a bunch of smaller planets which are all hand-crafted either, creating what it is easily the most visually impressive universe ever created. Yes, I said ever created. Nothing else comes close to portraying a living and breathing universe like Mass Effect 2 does... but still, only number 2? What gives? Well, it had some stiff competition this year and despite everything it did right, it still wasn’t quite enough to take home the gold.

 

In its rightful place at the number one spot, Rockstar’s portrayal of the Wild West in Red Dead Redemption is utterly sublime. When we say no other game world in 2010 came close, we say so wholeheartedly confident and with unreserved bravado.

Whether you’re talking about the game’s night and day system, that when coupled with the almost incredible weather system creates an ever-changing environment or the game’s illusion of a living and breathing ecosystem, Red Dead’s game world wows you from a technical perspective on so many levels. The sunsets are as picturesque and as awe-inspiring as the cataclysmic thunderstorms, and watching cougars chase down smaller indefensible creatures never gets old. It doesn’t just nail the wide open plains and deserts either, but its diversity will almost shock you into a coma. So expect clichéd dust-ridden towns with troublesome saloons, steep snowy mountains with windy mountain trails and swampy marshes galore. Factor in random events on the dusty roads, the huge range of wildlife that inhabit Red Dead’s vast environment and the charming and dastardly characters that you come across, and Red Dead is a resounding winner.

 
That about wraps up this year’s festive top 5s, check back on Boxing Day (AKA the 26th December) to see this year’s Game of the Year nominations, ahead of Game of the Year feature which goes ahead on the 31st December.




 
 

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Comment #1 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:28:13 PM
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NOTE: Apologies for the lack of sound in the Mafia II vid, YT decided it want to block it *sigh*


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Comment #2 by Mrfishyp
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:34:12 PM
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Im sorry, Ive pretty much agreed with all the lists so far, but completely disagree with this one, apart from Mass effect. What about Bioshock 2? FFXIII? and some of the ones included, like Mafia 2 and RDR? Personally I thought they were awful!


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Comment #3 by Minty
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:46:40 PM
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FF13's world was a straight path for a large portion of the game.

RDR was an awesome wild west world that was a pleasure to be immersed in.


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Comment #4 by lucaspl
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:52:47 PM
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Played most of the games apart from Alan Wake and Mass Effect 2. I think RDR deserves first place but I was actually surprised with Mafia 2. It was good game but then I think there were better games like Mrfishyp mentioned. Fable 3 was bad either, it was like AC: Brotherhood. Few new things changed/added and thats it, wasnt really that different from Fable 2 - but that just in my opinion though.


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Comment #5 by Mrfishyp
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:58:53 PM
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@3 I don't see why the fact that it was a straight path should discount it, Alan Wake had pretty much a straight path...
And as much as I would like to continue this discussion, its christmas in 15 minutes so I will have better things to do. Have a good one everybody!


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Comment #6 by Kaboozez
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 05:59:42 PM
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I think Alan Wake should be before ME2. Good list though :)

Webb I gotta ask you something. I was watching a movie (don't remember what it was called) and I saw the name Dan Webb in the credits. Was that you? :P


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Comment #7 by UNDERWALLY
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 06:00:45 PM
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Yeah nice list, Me 2 is #1 in my book
buuuuuut wheres FFantasy and Bioshock2!!!??


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Comment #8 by B Rock3232
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 06:09:01 PM
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I agree with AC:BH. But I was very surprised when I didn't see Fable 3 on the list! Some how you missed that one guys.


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Comment #9 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 06:18:12 PM
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As I said in the intro, it's not just the world, but how it's brought to life. Mafia II did that more so than Fable III, and FFXIII was just a pretty picture, with no real substance to it. BioShock 2 was just more of the same and was a very desolate place.


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Comment #10 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 06:19:52 PM
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@#6 - No, unfortunately not, the closest I've come to being in a film is accidentally walking onto a live set =P


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Comment #11 by EcT Felix
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 06:37:01 PM
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Webb... We all know that you are a hell of fan.. But we got it. You love Mass Effect 2. And it isn't so good.


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Comment #12 by callmeclean
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 07:02:26 PM
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@11 HERETIC! Mass Effect 2 is totally spicy awesome sauce, the only thing I didn't like about it was the fact that a lot of places like Illium had barely any play area..well until lair of the shadow broker came out.

Also I'm surprised Halo Reach isn't on here, personally I think it had some of the most beautiful environments and sky boxes ever and was really brought to life by the background battles and many other things, really felt like you were just one group in a giant battle. Unfortunately it never gave me the sense of "Holy crap we just got invaded" (In Bajo's words for those who watch good game :P)


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Comment #13 by Andarion
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 07:09:54 PM
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@11: that's your opinion. it just happens to be a different opinion from the vast majority of players, critics, and reviewers.


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Comment #14 by Webb [STAFF]
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 07:13:02 PM
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@#11 - The lists were assembled from the staff's opinions. I can't believe anyone can say Mass Effect 2 "isn't so good." That's the most baffling thing I've ever read to be honest with no sense of logic.


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Comment #15 by blackout529
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 07:26:42 PM
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Bioshock 2 didn't really distinguish itself from part 1 aside from new areas. I totally agree with this list especially Red Dead Redemption.


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Comment #16 by Rodeo Legend
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 08:15:57 PM
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@14. You tell him dude. Mass Effect 2 for game of the year!


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Comment #17 by mjc0961
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 08:16:00 PM
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I'm having some trouble seeing it in Mafia II. All my brain puts forth during that whole video was Nolan North talking to Nolan North on the street outside Vito's house. Maybe this will sound silly but that's a complete deal-breaker for me. I already wasn't going to get Mafia II because of the meh-ish gameplay, and a sense of a good world isn't going to make me get it either because my brain refuses to believe that it has one.

As for Red Dead, "watching cougars chase down smaller indefensible creatures never gets old". Maybe not, but it gets old when they sneak up on you from behind and murder Horsey. :p

@13: In the words of Maddox, "No shit sherlock, who else's opinion would it be?"


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Comment #18 by mikachu93
Friday, December 24, 2010 @ 09:03:00 PM
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I'm glad to see Mass Effect 2 on here. I haven't played Red Dead, but I'm guessing I should, considering all the praise it's received so far.


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Comment #19 by jamie1000013
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 12:55:25 AM
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Fallout New Vegas should have been on this list...

Mass Effect 2's world was horrible compared to number 1. It felt like it was being confined and wasn't as expansive as the first.

RDR's world was boring it was all the same. Fallout should have been number 1.

I agree with the rest though.


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Comment #20 by EcT Felix
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 04:20:32 AM
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@Webb:

We all have our own opinions.

And i'm pretty sure that you don't love Force unleashed 2 as much as me.

No offence but i have to agree with @19 too.


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Comment #21 by Webb [STAFF]
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 07:23:05 AM
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@#20 - Oh, totally, but even if I don't like a game, I can always appreciate it for what it's worth. For instance, I could never get into Fallout 3, but I could appreciate why people would and could also see why it won so many, many awards (it even won GOTY here).


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Comment #22 by jtr1gg3r
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 03:38:18 PM
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I completely agree with this list. RDR deserved the win, and as long as Rockstar continue to release free roam games, they'll win this award all........day........ long.


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Comment #23 by Chrish90
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 06:16:51 PM
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I know its all a matter of opinion, but come on. How could Just cause 2 be beaten by any of these games is beyond me. All these game worlds put together have still got nothing on just cause 2 graphically or in size. I assume whoever made the list simply did not play it.


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Comment #25 by Blackdawn61
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 07:17:57 PM
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Whoawhoawhoaaa.

Feeling the Christmas Cheer here fella's :)
@11: Webb loves ME2, correct. and maybe it isn't as good as he makes out, but it's still one hell of a game. Doesn't mean it's for you to question his personal favourites, does it?

I have to agree with quite of few of the comments here too. FFXIII woulda been great on this list. Watching Adamantoises wander around the archlyte steppe with Cougars chasing each other around was sublime.

Just Cause 2 was also a graphically supreme game from pretty much all of the MANY angles it could be viewed from.

I know it wouldn't have fit in to the Top 5 lineup, but for a list of this 'genre', it should've really been a Top 10 list :D


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Comment #26 by Joker0fLife
Saturday, December 25, 2010 @ 11:44:17 PM
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Fallout: New Vegas was rewashed garb from 3...They could have stepped it up, but they decided to play it safe, and somehow released a glitchy-er version of Fallout 3. Not to mention they used all of what, 5 voice actors total? They also decided to dead end the story line instead of letting you free roam, something that upset a good majority of Fallout 3 players. To say that New Vegas deserves GOTY is a MAJOR overstatement...Despite what some fanboys might think.


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Comment #27 by WartyHogger
Sunday, December 26, 2010 @ 12:53:47 AM
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Just Cause 2 should be in there, but no doubt if it was top 10, it'd be in there. It's just a very beautiful world. But all the ones picked do belong there, Mass Effect 2 universe was amazing.


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Comment #28 by Webb [STAFF]
Sunday, December 26, 2010 @ 05:35:13 AM
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@#23 - Check my gamercard ;) Just Cause 2 was a pretty place, but it had no substance or character and I said "we looked at a lot more than just the worlds themselves, but what the developers had done to bring them alive"... It was just full of the same crap and Avalanche did nothing really to bring it to life. It was just a pretty picture.

@#25 - You do realise that I'm not the only one to love it, right? =P


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Comment #29 by macd
Sunday, December 26, 2010 @ 09:34:39 PM
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I liked FF13s world a lot, would liked to have seen it in even if it was linear (and a long game to 1k). I'd have Brotherhood at 2 and ME2 at 1, but I haven't played RDR so it's slightly unfair to discount it.


Anyway, I don't really disagree with any, as I either agree with the or haven't played them. I only bought 3 new, full price games this year (ME2, AC:B and F1 2010) and msot of the games I bought were bought cheap and for like £5 as they were ancient.


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Comment #30 by MrSparkle779
Monday, December 27, 2010 @ 02:47:08 PM
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I thought Alan Wake took took place in a "Pacific Northwest" setting?


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Comment #31 by Lewis180
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 @ 07:47:02 AM
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i agree with all of them! Great choice!


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Comment #32 by FaTaL EFX
Tuesday, December 28, 2010 @ 11:01:41 AM
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@14 "I can't believe anyone can say Mass Effect 2 "isn't so good." That's the most baffling thing I've ever read to be honest with no sense of logic."

To be honest that's how I feel about the game. I can see why people like the game, and I can see why the games world is on this list, but for me the game itself was pretty bad and very disappointing; if you want logical explanation I'd happily take some time to explain why.

Pretty much the game just wasn't as interesting than the first game, of course it's the second game, so that's to be expected to a degree, but the whole damn plot of the game is completely and utterly pointless - by the end of the it nothing has happened. The point of a trilogy is that the story advances within each game; in Mass Effect 2 the game should have primed the player for the Reaper attack on Earth as promised by the recent Mass Effect 3 trailer.
What we got was a poorly told story about the collectors [that completely undermined the whole point of the last games story] and some poorly thought out logic that actually make the Reaper look moronic, and less threatening than previous games. I don't know what exactly Bioware have in mind but it seems like they needed to get something in place for Mass Effect 3 - whatever the case having the plot take away from the lore, make Shepard look like a fool, weaken the threat of the Reapers and ultimately achieve nothing isn't good story-telling. Lets look at the conclusions from Mass Effect 1 and 2.

In the first game we saved the Citadel, the most valuable place in the galaxy from Reaper invasion and determined the threat was severe. In Mass Effect 2, despite seeing the threat with their very eyes I'm supposed to beleive everyone just doesn't beleive me due to what is effectively "politics"? It's a poor excuse, and makes little sense.

Regardless, I'm rambling and it'd take me even longer to explain how many stupid plot-related [alone] errors there are in Mass Effect 2 that make the games narrative so poor, so I'll just link you to Twenty sided dices website - who explain it pretty well...

http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004

I disagree with some of his points, I don't even think the side-missions were particularly interesting, but he explains everything in a way I cannot. There's even a video series in which a group [including Shamus] plays through the game on that site [they're currently on video 16 I believe] and comment on various details, though it often ends up them explaining why certain design decisions in the game are poor.


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Comment #33 by Timmsy
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 05:30:49 AM
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totally with Minty, mass effect was a moving backdrop, nothing more


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Comment #34 by Ellusion
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 08:41:43 AM
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All I have to say is; "Where the bloody hell is Panau"? Easily the #1 gameworld of all time.


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Comment #35 by JPez20
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 09:45:24 AM
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I think RDR was a great choice for #1.


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Comment #36 by Dr Popodopolus
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 02:35:10 PM
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Red Dead all day long!

I love being biased especially since I haven't played the other 4 games..

But seriously, Red Deads world is nothing short of epic. Needs a sequel, after the next instalment of GTA.


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Comment #37 by OUCat57
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 03:30:32 PM
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@30 I agree. I could swear it was Pacific Northwest. I thought it was a New York writer going on vacation in the Pacific Northwest to relax...not the Midwest. Being originally from Ohio, I only WISH the Midwest looked like that :-).


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Comment #38 by Webb [STAFF]
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 07:49:20 PM
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@#30 & #37 - You are indeed correct sirs, I have now updated it =)


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Comment #39 by Webb [STAFF]
Wednesday, December 29, 2010 @ 08:08:58 PM
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@#32 - Cheers for the read. I do agree that ME1's main story paled in comparison to 2, but some of the stuff that dude talks about is a little off in my opinion.

For instance:

- Cerberus has always been about making humans almighty and powerful, despite what the writer insinuates.
- The Illusive Man: he said "who" but in the first game and even the books, TIM is referenced a hell of a lot.
- The Collectors were referenced in the literature between the two games as well.

They're only thinking about it from a story perspective as well, but by not killing off Shepard, players would be stuck with the same squad for ME2 from ME1 then. What they did in the first few hours made the game aspect fit - allowed players to change their looks and skills, allowed players to assemble a crack team, etc. NOTE: Actually, he mentions that in part 2 =P

But he does raise a few good points in all, although some of them, I feel he misses the point and seems a little over critical about really tiny stuff. Cheers anyway.


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Comment #40 by HeadLikeAHole
Thursday, December 30, 2010 @ 12:40:32 AM
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Mass Effect 2 ain't no game game of the year. It was good but I was disapointed, i found the 1st part a lot better.
in an other case, i found bioshock 2 very satisfying compared to the first game.
OT: I just finished Alan Wake and Oh boy, was it awesome. In my opinion It should the game of the year and the first on this list, amazing work Remedy, was worth the wait. I have yet to play RDR but will when the GOTY comes out, hopefully

Here's my list for this category:
5- Assassin Crees: Brotherhood
4- Mass Effect 2
3- Bioshock 2
2- Fallout: New Vegas
1- Alan Wake


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Comment #41 by HeroOfCantonUK
Thursday, December 30, 2010 @ 05:21:33 AM
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@32

Having read the whole article the whole 'ME2 plot is rubbish' argument just doesn't hold together. With a bit of common sense and an understanding of the universe mythos - and dramatic conventions - the plot holes aren't really plot holes at all.

The 'rebirth' wasn't a plot decision but a game one (I'm sure I read this in an interview somewhere) but the game system was changed so drastically from ME1 to ME2 that BioWare felt restricting the player to their class choice from ME1 was unfair given how different the classes now actually play. They did the rebirth thing to give players the choice to change class but retain all the decisions they made in ME1. There will be no need for a similar start-over in ME3 as they have now settled on a basic game system and we can expect the same basic system to continue in ME3. Also not the much lower level cap in ME2 as opposed to ME1, I expect we'll continue where we left off with our ME2 character in terms of levelling up.

The only real issues with the plot are that (as mentioned in the article) Shepard doesn't confront TIM about Cerberus' actions from the first game - or Sole Survivor background - at the start of the game nor does TIM comment on all the operations Shepard foiled in ME1. There should have been a few more dialogue options there to reflect the history but not a major issue.

Shepard 'joining' Cerberus also isn't as forced as it is made out in the article as he doesn't actually join Cerberus, just accepts to work with them against a common and much more dangerous foe. At this point he's met Jacob who is intorduced in such a way as to show that not all Cerberus operatives are pure evil and may have some other reason for joining the organisation. Further to this it's only sensible for TIM to crew the new Normandy with the most 'liberal' of his operatives. I don't think there's any doubt that Cerberus is capable of evil and will continue to be there are some good people there. (Though I do acccept that the reappearance of Joker/Chakwas was too convenient).

The only other real issue wasn't mentioned in the article and thats the mysterious shuttle mission the whole squad go on to allow the Joker mission to go ahead. From what I've read depending on the way you play the missions it can be that for a certain mission they just go by shuttle instead of by Normandy but in all my playthroughs they got on shuttle, Joker mission triggered, the came home. Thye never actually did anything...

I've rambled on so will keep this last bit short, the ending does seem a bit messy however we have a whole third game coming which can explain it. If at the end of ME3 we don't have an explanation for the organic Reaper issue then there is a problem but as of now it's a cliffhanger, not a resolution. I have my theories about it, other will have theirs but we'll just need to wait and see.

The final choice may seem forced but isn't really. The only options actually are 'blow up station' or 'give station to Cerberus'. If Shepard left the station intact after breaking ties with Cerberus TIM would have a research team in there long before Shepard ever got the Council to agree to sending a team. There was no better third choice and I think that was kinda the point and also reinforced the fact that Cerberus isn't a nice group, they just have some nice people join them for various reasons.

As a quick final note exactly how anything in the game makes the Reapers seem less intimidating compared to in ME1 is beyond me - we discover that they subjugated and completely rewrote the DNA of the Protheans (the most advanced organic species so far mentioned in the game) to serve their goals and in doing so made them a mockery of their real selves and spit in the face of their efforts to defeat the Reapers. We now know the Council species - including humanity - may suffer the same fate. How does that make them seem less threatening?


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Comment #42 by ViNyLek
Thursday, December 30, 2010 @ 09:29:23 AM
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I agree with top 2 if with nothing else... There should be bioshock in here somehwere, because well - there is nothing else like it^^ Also forgetting Enslaved which was so vivid and beautiful is outragous at the leats. Now that is a really good job on enviroment....


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Comment #43 by FaTaL EFX
Thursday, December 30, 2010 @ 10:58:59 AM
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@39
"Cheers for the read. I do agree that ME1's main story paled in comparison to 2, but some of the stuff that dude talks about is a little off in my opinion."

Did you get that the wrong way around? I'm arguing that ME1's plot was far superior to ME2's, not the other way around.

"For instance:

- Cerberus has always been about making humans almighty and powerful, despite what the writer insinuates."

True, but that doesn't excuse the other, massive issues with that particular section of the dialouge [I assume you're refferring to the Illusive Man?] such as the fact

- The Illusive Man: he said "who" but in the first game and even the books, TIM is referenced a hell of a lot.

TIM, and indeed Cerberus, is apparently referenced in the book a lot more yes. Unfortunately I didn't read the books. Nobody I know read the books, if you can point me to a wide variety of places TIM was mentioned that was in the first game, and not in the Codex, I'd happily rectify my personal opinion of this section. I wasn't a massive fan of the first ME1, so I didn't play all the side-missions, nor read the Codex. As game writers, hell, as the supposed best writers in the industry, you'd think a continuous narrative that all players could follow, without resorting to side-missions and Codex entries [or worse outside material, such as the books] shouldn't have been a large issue...


"- The Collectors were referenced in the literature between the two games as well."

See above, that's not a point in its favor...

"They're only thinking about it from a story perspective as well, but by not killing off Shepard, players would be stuck with the same squad for ME2 from ME1 then. What they did in the first few hours made the game aspect fit - allowed players to change their looks and skills, allowed players to assemble a crack team, etc. NOTE: Actually, he mentions that in part 2 =P"

I'm certain there's a better way to have done that to be honest, killing off the chaarcter, then bringing them back just seems illogical. All for a different crew [and half your old crew joins back anyway]? Why not just write a better story to begin with, all the plot in ME2 was, was blatant time-wasting for the next game.

"But he does raise a few good points in all, although some of them, I feel he misses the point and seems a little over critical about really tiny stuff. Cheers anyway."

I don't know, for a series that Bioware have claimed took over a year to create these massive leaps in narrative seem to be pretty poorly designed.


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Comment #44 by DragonFox27
Friday, December 31, 2010 @ 04:53:23 AM
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I may dislike Red Dead Redemption but it had an amazing world.


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Comment #45 by Chrish90
Friday, December 31, 2010 @ 12:49:36 PM
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This list is fail


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Comment #46 by Joewayer
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 06:40:59 PM
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A minor point in this list is wrong. The first sentence about Alan Wake talks about how Stephen King books and movies are the normal place to see Pacific Northwest creepy town atmosphere. The overwhelming majority of Stephen King titles take place in Maine.

It has all the feel of Stephen King though. He's mentioned in the game several times and I felt the influences from start to finish. I think King is even thanked in the credits if I remember correctly.

They could have changed the location to Maine and it wouldn't have made any difference except for the mountains that you need to traverse throughout the game.


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Comment #47 by Aussie27Legend
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 08:45:16 PM
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I agree with that list in its entirety, except maybe Alan Wake at 3, maybe at 5.


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Comment #48 by BlandYoshi
Saturday, January 08, 2011 @ 11:48:08 PM
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I don't think you can argue with Red Dead being number 1. It is something that really has never been done in video games that well before. It is amazing. Great game!


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Comment #49 by Kisushima
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 04:03:20 PM
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I pretty much agree with the lists, not that my opinion counts :P. But :10, Webb, how did you walk onto a live film set? Am I the only one curious about this :P!? Please, do tell more if you can..


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Comment #50 by Blue Thunder28
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 04:42:00 PM
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Think ME2 should have been #1 for sure. Then Cameron's Avatar at #2 LOLLL


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Comment #51 by luffy
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 07:54:00 PM
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YAY for red dead redemption !!!!!, this games deserves it..
game of the year !!!
isn't that spectacular.


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Comment #52 by bearmod
Sunday, January 09, 2011 @ 09:48:56 PM
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i would definetly agree with this list, the games not the order though, rdr deserveed 1st place but i think ac brotherhood should have place higher, sure its similar to ac 2 but they did a really good job recreating rome


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Comment #53 by hydrosugar
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 03:07:21 AM
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mafia 2 ftw it should be 5th at the VERY LEAST. completely glitch free too which is nice.


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Comment #54 by Mtld
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 08:20:57 AM
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Stephen King's towns are generally NorthEastern USA, not NorthWestern. Good article ;)


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Comment #55 by ARNy007
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 04:46:00 PM
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Teardrop = great song
AC Brotherhood = great game
Webb for puting the two together = GENIUS

if you did put them together Webb ;)


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Comment #56 by Sk8er_0208
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 05:55:05 PM
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@ 2 - how can you like Bioshock and not mafia 2, there both set in the same time period. Unless you prefer the erieness of Bioshock. Also suggesting a over hyper realistic japanese game environment over a realistic western your taste is strange there.


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Comment #57 by Quantum47
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 06:20:22 PM
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I don't know what it is, but I just wasn't impressed with Red Dead Redemption. I'll admit, the ending was ballsy, but once the game was done, I just felt like there really wasn't a lot to do anymore. I was CRAZY about the hunting - I could do that for weeks. But when it's all said and done, everything from there on out was pointless. I'm sure if I went back and gave it another chance, it could be something special.


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Comment #58 by Fig
Monday, January 10, 2011 @ 10:59:57 PM
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Uhmm WTF is with RED DEAD being on all the lists!!! am I the only one who hates that game!


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Comment #59 by DarkestHero
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 @ 07:25:10 PM
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Happy to see Alan Wake on the list. A truly amazing game that I hope gets a sequel.


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Comment #60 by TakahashiDemon
Thursday, January 13, 2011 @ 05:44:22 AM
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Despite FFXIII's world being mostly a straight path, it was still rendered very well.

Anyways good to see Assassin's Creed got in top 5.


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Comment #61 by Banedain
Thursday, January 13, 2011 @ 06:44:26 PM
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#32 Very well said not to mention the so called "Fair Classes" were butchered the soldier and Sentinel were way overpowered while the Infiltrator "my personal favorite was given a sucky @$$ job on the harder difficultie. 4 Headshots just to remove on sheild with the Mantis Sniper ( I think its called its been a while) rifle (most powerful one in the game) and by the end of almost any battle I always ran out of ammo and died. Also how is disposable ammo clips more advanced tech than an unlimited Heat sink?


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Comment #62 by darkpipboy
Sunday, January 16, 2011 @ 07:37:22 AM
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assassin's creed is the best!


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Comment #63 by Quake007
Sunday, January 16, 2011 @ 01:40:23 PM
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@61 Infiltrator doms in ME1 though. :D


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Comment #64 by Reddazrael
Sunday, January 16, 2011 @ 06:50:23 PM
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I'm a bit surprised that Fable III isn't on here. You can say what you like about its merits as a game, but it's hard to deny that the world itself is gorgeous, huge, and diverse. I might as well make a list:

Foggy marshes and cold, snow-covered mountains; sprawling, dense forests and open lakes; idyllic fields and quiet country mansions; endlessly shifting deserts and clusters of small islands; secret enclaves of magic and beautiful ruins; damp, rocky caves and crystal-clear oceanfronts; and even the heart of an industrialized city with its smoke-belching factories and run-down slums...

Hell, the city of Aurora evokes horror so perfectly that it alone could make this list for pure impact value.

It's an amazing world.


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Comment #65 by Sinful Samhein
Tuesday, January 18, 2011 @ 07:10:11 PM
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Red Dead was amazing. It was also good for about 80 hours of work.


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Comment #66 by ZACK GSF
Thursday, January 20, 2011 @ 12:23:12 PM
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Completely agree with this list.


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Comment #67 by THE 1 2 P
Friday, January 28, 2011 @ 07:00:50 PM
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I agree with Alan Wake being on the list--that game was fantastic in so many different ways.


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Comment #68 by zeassumpcao
Saturday, February 19, 2011 @ 05:46:28 PM
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Red Dead is surely the best one I've ever played for XBOX.
I play it for hours in a row without getting tired.
I'm not a huge fan of ME myself, but i reckon it is a preety good game.
Alan Wake keeps scaring the hell out of me everytime I play...

Haven't got the chance to play AC Brotherhood yet, but maybe it can compete with Red Dead.


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