E3 2011: X360A's Best of Show

E3 2011: X360A's Best of Show

Written Monday, June 13, 2011 By Dan Webb
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E3 is done, we’re all tired and we’re counting down the moments when we land in the UK and start churning out the content. Actually, no, we’re dreading it, but we’re excited to bring you our opinions fresh from the world’s biggest gaming show. Since the show ended though, we’ve been locked up in a hotel room arguing who should win what for this year’s Best of Show awards… which in truth means, sightseeing and blowing off a bit of steam, while every so often going, “So, blah blah is blatantly Game of the Show.”

In short, E3 2011 was a glorious success from a games perspective, with many big guns bringing all that and more to the show, and proving that we really are in the golden age of gaming – despite what many others may say. It was tough for us this year to narrow down the winners and pick just one, but that’s what we’re here to do. So many great titles don’t get a look in, but we don’t call it the Best of Show awards for nothing. A big congrats to all the winners and commiserations to all the runners-up in advance, but without further ado, let’s lavish those winners (and losers) with praise. These, ladies and gents, are our winners of E3 2011!

Best Press Conference of the Show

The best press conference of E3 2011 was a bit of a no-brainer for us. Although Microsoft hit home and won the fans over with a few choice Halo announcements and EA was dropping jaws with its Mass Effect 3 and Battlefield 3 demos, it was Ubisoft that was hitting all the rights notes. With the Far Cry 3 live demonstration leading the charge and impressive showings from Rayman Origins, Ghost Recon: Future Soldier and Assassin’s Creed: Revelations, to name but a few, the French publisher really knew how to put on a good spread. There were even a few casual related Kinect announcements as well that will no doubt please others, including Raving Rabbids, Your Shape 2 and Just Dance 3 for Microsoft’s fastest selling electronic device. Now if only they could have got Joel McHale back on the books to lead the show, the press conference would have been nigh on perfect.

Winner – Ubisoft


Best Stand of the Show

If there’s one thing that THQ has nailed recently in years gone-by at E3, it’s their booth. Taking home the award for Best Stand of the Show for the second year running, THQ’s stand was not only grand and epic in scale, but was well organised, had plenty of good content and was always buzzing with excitement. With pods galore, theatres for UFC Undisputed 3, Saints Row: The Third and Metro: Last Light, to name but a few, but with 8 foot tall Space Marines, UFC fighters galore – including Jens Pulver – and so much more, there really was no better booth in terms of content and design anywhere in the two halls of LA’s Convention Centre. Plus they had the best booth babes to boot.

Winner - THQ



Best Looker of the Show

When we caught a glimpse at Forza 4’s “in-game” visuals at Microsoft’s press conference at the beginning of the week, we honestly couldn’t believe our eyes. Really. So much so that we scoffed at one another, remarking that there was no way that those visuals were indicative of the in-game quality. Turns out we’re super cynical and when we caught a glimpse of the game behind-closed-doors and at Microsoft’s Forza 4 event on Wednesday evening, we were left eating our proverbial hat. How Turn 10 has been able to create the best visuals on the Xbox 360 in not just any car game to date, but any game to date, still remains a mystery, but with its new image based lighting, meaning all aspects of the world affect how the car looks – from artificial light to the sun and clouds in the sky – and being able to see intricate details of the motors from a mere 6 inches away, well, to us, it’s completely astonishing. Turn 10 set the standard and wowed punters a few years back with Forza 3’s visuals and Forza 4 is set to knock your bloody socks off, so you may as well take them off now and get comfy.

Winner – Forza Motorsport 4

Disappointment of the Show

Just when it looked like EA had finally understood the nuances of keeping the Need For Speed franchise in the limelight, they came to E3 and spoilt that and knocked us back into our Need For Speed fatigue state. By releasing Criterion’s brilliant Need For Speed: Hot Pursuit and proving they still knew why we loved the franchise, and even following that up by removing the Need For Speed from the Shift franchise, we were starting to feel confident that EA had learned the error of their ways. Boy, we couldn’t have been any more wrong! E3 for us marked our first glimpse of Need For Speed: The Run in action and after seeing that we leave the car to get involved in some frankly inane Quick Time Event sequences, we were left a little shocked. It would have been alright if the racing segments looked fun, but racing around desolate streets avoiding a chopper’s spotlight, whilst navigating corners that are indicated with those 1990-esque neon corner markers, we were ready to lift our seats up and throw them through the nearest window. We’re rock n’ roll like that!

Winner – Need for Speed: The Run

Surprise of the Show

Not only was Far Cry 3 a surprise announcement at Ubisoft’s press conference, it was frankly a surprise that it was looking so impressive already… you know, because it’s slated for a 2012 release. Halo: CE Anniversary was a front runner for this category, mainly because it looked stunning and evoked many memories that we’d encountered nearly 10 years ago – the switch to classic view is a real indication as to how much 343 and co. have done with it – but Far Cry 3 eventually came out on top. Correcting all the lessons they had learned from the gaming Marmite that was Far Cry 2, as well as heading back to the tropical islands was always going to win the franchise bounty points, but everything else they’ve thrown into the mix was just icing on the cake. Let’s hope that Ubisoft Montreal can take what they showed to the press and the fans – watching via the press conference – and build on this for our next viewing, which we assume will be at Gamescom this year. Can anyone say “Excited”? We can! Excited!

Winner – Far Cry 3

Best Action Title of the Show

One millisecond. That's exactly how long it took for us to fall in love with Rocksteady's take on Batman all over again following the pure comic book awesomeness that was Arkham Asylum. Arkham City is set to turn the franchise right up to 11 for the sequel, and after our hands-on with the game, we can confidently report that Bats is looking better than ever. With a captive Catwoman being held by Two-Face in the demo, we got to sample the game's speedy city traversal and the seamless interplay between the combat and stealth that was so resolutely compartmentalised in the first game. Now, with the Dark Knight feeling like a far more flexible hero than before and with Catwoman getting her claws into the action too, there was really only ever going to be one winner of the best action game accolade at E3, with the caped crusader fighting off stiff competition from the likes of Tomb Raider and Assassin’s Creed: Revelations. Pow!

Winner – Batman: Arkham City

Best Racer of the Show

Granted, Forza 4 didn’t really have much competition to face-off against at this year’s E3 – Driver: San Fran was as expected and Need For Speed: The Run was a huge disappointment – but even if there was, it’d probably have taken home this award anyway. Yes, we like to make sweeping and presumptive statements like that… it’s what we get off on. Boasting 16-player online, an improved career mode, incentives for Forza 3 players, the Kinect-heavy Autovista mode and easily the best rendered cars we’ve ever seen, it was a clear winner. As they proved with Forza 3, Turn 10 really know what they’re doing with the Forza franchise and their latest first official unveiling of Forza 4 had fans giddy with excitement. It’s beautiful, plays like a dream, has something for everyone and even has more car porn than an episode of Top Gear, what couldn’t you like about it?

Winner – Forza Motorsport 4

Best RPG of the Show

Although Skyrim was all guns blazing at this year’s E3, the fact the 95% of the demo was what we saw in Utah a month or so back was a tad disappointing. We’ve still got plenty to talk about there in our preview though, but Mass Effect 3 and its more RPG grounded roots and emotional demo was hard to beat. After seeing three short demos and listen to Casey Hudson, Mass Effect’s Executive Producer, gush on about all the new things they’ve added, we were as confident we’ve ever been in a Mass Effect title. The fact that they’ve extended out the RPG elements after they streamlined them a tad too much in Mass Effect 2 will please fans, and whether it’s the new weapon upgrade system or the more in-depth character growth systems, players of all skill levels will be bouncing with joy. The fact that Shepard can jump, roll, switch cover and act like a general badass all round will resonate with shooter fans too, so the new improvements will no doubt please everyone. Watch out folks, the Reapers are coming and they want to take your children! Well, that, or just kill them… *gulp*

Winner – Mass Effect 3

Best Shooter of the Show

Although Battlefield 3 was in the running for our Best Shooter of the Show for E3 2011, it eventually became a one-horse race rather quickly, basically because while Battlefield came to the show with the PC-only build and one multiplayer map, BioShock Infinite had a good 20 minute hands-off demo which like its Gamescom 2010 debut showing, was just as awe-inspiring. The fact that it was fast-paced, confusing as hell, but as fluent as an ecstasy-fuelled elf dancing on a rainbow of love and energy was why we loved it. With some suspense filled sequences, plenty of off-the-cuff combat, some insane rail-track exchanges and more confusion than an episode of Lost, there is no doubt in our mind that Irrational’s new BioShock title will evoke the same emotions– and maybe even then some – that we got from the original BioShock back in the day. It looked stunning on a PS3 as well, which will no doubt shut the “consoles suck” purists up for at least a minute or two. 2012 already has a beast of a game lined up and we couldn’t be anymore excited. No, really, we couldn’t.

Winner – BioShock Infinite

Best Rest of the Show

It’s been a while since we’ve had a truly decent platformer that places more emphasis on camaraderie than anything else, but after playing Rayman Origins at this year’s E3, it’s clear that this is a platformer whose essence is exactly that. Playing a bit of 4-player co-op through a couple of the game’s levels really showed to us that the platformer genre, contrary to popular belief, wasn’t dead. With an added emphasis on teamwork, some cool set-pieces and more than a laugh a minute, we’re happy to see that Ubisoft held back the originally planned episodic adventure and crammed all that content into one retail disc. It’s simple controls will allow newbies and the less experienced to step in and play, while the general trickiness of a few of the game’s set-pieces will resonate with hardcore Rayman fans, so as far as we’re concerned, all should be happy with what Ubisoft have been able to do with the once-thought-dead franchise. If you love co-op, platforming and general random shenanigans, then Rayman will be right up your alley. That’s for certain.

Winner – Rayman Origins

Best of Show

Ask anyone who attended this year’s show and ask them their Best of the Show and they’ll either say, Mass Effect 3 or BioShock Infinite. For us though, the Mass Effect 3 demo – which actually moved one journalist to tears with its emotional journey of Shepard and a young boy (more on that later) – won by a nose length. Sure, BioShock Infinite was as crazy and awe-inspiring as it’s always been, but Mass Effect 3 showed that BioWare still knows how to carry their new number one franchise and finish the trilogy in style. With epic battles against humongous Reapers, mixed with a quick look at the new RPG-elements – which have been extended from 2, to the delight of fans – and possibly one of the most emotional and heart-string pulling demos I’ve ever seen at a trade show, there was only one winner. For Pete’s sake people, Shepard has the old band back together, and we couldn’t be happier!

Winner – Mass Effect 3

That’s it for this year’s awards, but keep close to X360A and we’ll bring you our opinions on all the games from this year’s show.


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Comment #1 by SirDooblay
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 06:59:01 PM
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good list all in all. just so you know the shooter picture is of RAGE not Bioshock Infinite

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Comment #2 by boomdizzle 2
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 08:19:47 PM
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I know you couldent have put it, but nintendo easily had the best confrense. Star fox, mario kart, and a new mario game for 3DS, and wiiU with promise of a new smash bros. for 3DS and WiiU? HELL YEAH!!

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Comment #3 by ohioman101
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 08:27:30 PM
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I can't wait for Mass Effect 3. There are so many games reaching the end of their story arc coming out this year (ME3, Gears of War 3, and Assassin's Creed: Revelations just to name a few) that I'm getting mixed feelings of excitement and sadness that some of my favorite game stories are reaching their conclusions.

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Comment #4 by blackout529
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 09:04:20 PM
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Forza 4 looks amazing. That game absolutely shot up in my list of must-have games.

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Comment #5 by ConfederateSuga
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 11:33:35 PM
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I know Skyrim didn't really make a big splash at E3, but given the rock solid reputation of the Elder Scrolls franchise, there's NO doubt whatsoever that Skyrim is the one and only king of games for 2011. Mass Effect 3 "looks" great, but Bioware has really shaken my trust in their brand as of late. Every game they've released up to Dragon Age 1 has been stellar. However, them trying to "fix" what wasn't broken for Mass Effect 2 and Dragon Age 2, they're really let me down lately :(. Bioware was better when they were Microsoft-only. That's not my opinion, either. That's a stone cold fact. And Far Cry 3 looks great, but have you forgotten how shit Far Cry 2 was? -_- lame list

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Comment #6 by ConfederateSuga
Monday, June 13, 2011 @ 11:39:34 PM
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"We’ve still got plenty to talk about there in our preview though, but Mass Effect 3 and its more RPG grounded roots and emotional demo was hard to beat." - Someone needs to take the crack pipe away from this guy. If you think ANY Mass Effect game is more grounded an RPG than ANY Elder Scrolls game, you're obviously completely oblivious to what makes an RPG an RPG. If you're one of those guys that said, "omg! Mass Effect 2 was an amazing RPG!", then you're retarded. ME2 was a glorified shooter with small whispers of RPG elements. When you can kill anyone you want to, go anywhere you want to without boundaries, loot literally EVERYTHING in the game world and still have the consistant variety of story altering dialect and decision making that Bioware is famous for in Mass Effect (that's just as solid in Oblivion/Fallout 3), let me know.

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Comment #7 by Steviewonder023
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 02:50:08 AM
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After seeing all of the major games announced at this year E3 I've realised that there were several no shows in LA. The major examples were Valve(HL3, L4D3), Rockstar(GTA5, MP3, RDR2) and Bungie new game for Activision.

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Comment #8 by El Presidente
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 09:46:51 AM
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All in all a good list, but too fanboyish on the Mass Effect-side ;)

It's no secret that you're huge Mass Effectos, so the Best of Show-Award may be granted to your favourite (although a bit undeserved) - but as some sort of compromise you should have given the RPG-award to Skyrim, which had barely new stuff for the BFG-/Utah-crowd (horses, mammoths and a slightly different end-fight), but nevertheless rocked the show.

Besides that: Action is one hell of a category - Batman, Tomb Raider, Hitman, all my favourites of E3 2011 came together in this one ^^

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Comment #9 by newbsicle
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 10:07:52 AM
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Bioware made it clear there intention with ME2 was to make a game for as many people as possible. That's perfectly fine in my opinion. The only problem I have is how mainstream they made the game. Almost all of the exploration in the game was removed instead of improved upon. Upgrades on weapons were removed and so on. I just don't see how ME3 can appeal more to RPG fans than Skyrim when we all know Bethesda makes their games for the fans.

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Comment #10 by Jackalus88
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 11:39:23 AM
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Those THQ booth babes were hot!

The amount of must own games arriving before 2011 is over is very exciting, if a little bankrupting for some. Beyond that looks to be pretty pleasing too, seems like there'll be something for everyone.

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Comment #11 by J is LEGEND515
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 12:44:32 PM
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cant wait for mass effect 3 and maybe Rayman Origins depending on how bored i am when it comes out.

Also those THQ booth babes= OMG

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Comment #12 by jamie1000013
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 01:07:49 PM
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Mass Effect 3 wins two of the awards no surprise there WeBBy :-P.

I still don't understand why EA keep dodging NFS:Most Wanted that for me was the best NFS game I ever played. Why can't they create a sequel for that or at least remake it. I preferred NFS when it was more arcade than realistic all this crash into a wall and watch a twenty minute slow-mo crash scene doesn't suit NFS in my opinion.

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Comment #13 by Webb [STAFF]
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 04:11:51 PM
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@#6 - ME3's RPG roots are more grounded than ME2's. That was my point.

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Comment #14 by Oultranator0731
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 04:49:06 PM
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Webb, give number 6 a slap!!!

ME2 WAS an RPG, RPG doesn't mean Can do anything you want, it means Role Playing Game. Yes we know Skyrim will be amazing but can people please stop comparing games just because they are in the same genre. I.E MW3 and BF3

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Comment #15 by Heavystormer
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 08:03:50 PM
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#6, your just an Elder Scrolls fanboy, who can't help but put down any game that looks to surpass it. Skyrim looks good no doubt, but in my opinion Mass Effect 3 ( yeah the RPG !! ) will win any award in the RPG genre for its ability to mix dialogue, superb action, combat and storytelling into one lengthy package.

Rightfully so.

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Comment #16 by ITD Soldierboy
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 08:20:32 PM
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I'm sorry, but that was the first time I've seen the Skyrim footage(and I'm pretty sure it was the first time shown publicly). Personally, I feel there are a lot of issues with the list(not because of the choices but the reasons why they were chosen and others were tossed aside).

Over all I guess I like this list(just disagree with some of the choices like Bioshock for best shooter? Loved the series and can't wait for Infinite, but I can't say that this is the best shooter since we didn't see much more footage than what they've already shown.

My personal favorites were Skyrim and Battlefield(never saw that Skyrim footage, so I died a couple times watching it). It's gonna be one hell of a year and thats only for two games!

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Comment #17 by FishyOutOfWater
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 08:22:38 PM
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@15 I could quite easily say you are a Mass Effect fanboy. Just because someone says that one game is better than another doesnt mean they are a fanboy.
Anyhoo Bioware have disappointed me so far with sequels. Dragon Age 2 and Mass Effect 2, although great, were nowhere near as good as the previous installments.
Bioshock will be amazing, as always.
Hopefully skyrim will live up to the hype.

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Comment #18 by HeadLikeAHole
Tuesday, June 14, 2011 @ 09:45:01 PM
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I just don't understand why Mass Effect 2 got so much love. Don't get me wrong it's a great game.It's just that I thought the first one was better and that there are far superior games franchises in my opinion: Bioshock, Elder scrolls, Bf, etc. Assassin creed is done for me I think, ubi mtl, as much as I love them, just started milking the franchise too much. I hope the same thing doesn't happen to Batman and Bioshock.

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Comment #19 by ConfederateSuga
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 04:38:50 AM
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@Webb - I meant no disrespect, but I just don't see how those who played through both Mass Effect and then got Mass Effect 2 can say that 2 was a progressive leap for the franchise. I haven't played Mass Effect 3 yet, and I'll have to wait and see if it delivers along with the rest of you. But, just based on the decline in RPG content from ME to ME2, I think, if ME3 is more like ME2 than ME, then it might be worth thinking of it as more of a shooter with RPG elements rather than a pure RPG.

@#15 - I'm not a fanboy. I'm a fan of both franchises for what they both offer to the gamers. You can't compare the 2 games. But, if you want to brand them both as RPGs, you CANNOT say that Mass Effect is a superior RPG to any Elder Scrolls game, not if you played ME2 AND Oblivion. It's no contest. Any Elder Scrolls game will and rightfully should be ATLEAST RPG of the Year. But with all these quality games coming out, there's no winners or losers in 2011. We're all winners.

@#17 - That's what I was trying to say. If you look at ME and ME2, they're like 2 completely different genres, both in quality and RPG elements. I don't think there's anyone out there that will argue that Dragon Age 2 definately didn't live up to it's predecessor. That's what I was geting at. It seems like Bioware's first installments are their best. This isn't my opinion, either. KOTOR>KOTOR2, ME>ME2 and DA>DA2. Bioware is one of my favorite developers, behind Bethesda, so I'm not playing the fanboy card here.

@#18 - Can't say anything more than I've already said before, but I couldn't agree more. However, I still keep getting sucked into the Assassin's Creed world :( lol. I really enjoyed Brotherhood, but I do agree that it was an unnecessary milking of the brand. They need to get AC3 out and let the franchise go after that.

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Comment #20 by Chaz2132010
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 07:52:09 AM
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@19 - i do agree with you that biowares sequel's arent as good as the original installments but in their defense they didnt make KOTOR 2 they wanted to work on there own projects and not licensed one(LucasArts) so they told them to give the project to Obsidian

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Comment #21 by ConfederateSuga
Wednesday, June 15, 2011 @ 08:45:48 AM
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@20 I think I enjoyed KOTOR2 more than ME2 >.< lol, so I don't know if that's good for Bioware or not. Dragon Age 2 is the worst of the worst for them, though. I still say that Bioware was better when they were Xbox exclusive. They never released one bad title all the way up to Mass Effect and after that....I don't know. Just doesn't feel like the magic's there anymore. :(

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Comment #22 by Modern Jedi
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 05:07:58 PM
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@21 I think the face of RPGs are changing, whether we like it or not. Look at how much money Square Enix is down because they just dont make RPGs with much change! Loved some of their games back in the day, but I am ready to see more from them. With Mass Effect and Dragon Age they are trying different formulas out, and I can't hate them for doing so. While it is debate-able about ME 2 being a typical RPG, the story, characters, setting was freaking fantastic. With DA 2 they scaled it to one city, but continued on with great story elements and characters. (I just wish someone would give me some damn dlc for that game!)
As long as Bioware keeps giving me a great story with awesome characters i dont care if they scale back the numbers game traditional rpgs have.....just as long as they dont get rid of it entirely.
BTW I think Oblivion has been one of the best rpgs this console generation, and I can not wait to see what Bethesda has in store for me on 11-11-11.

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Comment #23 by l.maciver
Thursday, June 16, 2011 @ 06:27:31 PM
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rather surprised HALO4 didnt win surprise of the show but then again FARCRY3 was also a huge surprise.

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Comment #24 by quartzlcc
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 11:20:47 AM
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Lol, please no one complain about the no-show from Valve. I would be pissed if they announced something this quickly, the way they tend to handle ... development times.

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Comment #25 by Casper Jazz
Friday, June 17, 2011 @ 01:09:26 PM
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E3 has made my bucket list :D

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Comment #26 by Magicman10893
Saturday, June 18, 2011 @ 01:00:08 PM
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@5 & 6

How does the quality of Far Cry 2 impact how awesome Far Cry 3 looks? I mean, all the things wrong with Far Cry 2 are supposedly being fixed in Far Cry 3. If anything, that should make Far Cry 3 EVEN MORE appealing!

Also, Webb meant that Mass Effect 3 is more RPG rooted than Mass Effect 2. I know he already posted that, but I understood that right from the beginning and was already planning out this post so I'm writing it anyway! Now to go into a full on rant that I've been waiting to write:

An RPG is a Role Playing Game. They started out as pen and paper style where the players had to "role-play" there parts and use their imaginations to bring the story and action alive. Now that, that is out of the way, what makes an RPG isn't just statistics and numbers, it is also the story, the dialogue, the characters and the setting. RPGs are about fantasy, about exploring a world different than yours with characters different from us. That is why I would say Mass Effect is more of an RPG than Oblivion because the universe of Mass Effect has captured me and kept me interested in the characters and the overarching story than Oblivion ever did.

In Oblivion as soon as I escaped from the prison I abandoned the main quest and went off exploring so I could loot dungeons for money and buy better equipment and such. In Mass Effect I was genuinely fascinated by the lore and the setting and the characters. I still started exploring and doing quests, but I did them with a purpose other than, "What can I kill/steal today?"

Don't get me wrong, both game series are amazing and I love them both, but when someone says that Mass Effect isn't an RPG because it doesn't have enough numbers and statistics as "classic" RPGs like Baldur's Gate and Fallout 1 & 2 it gets under my skin.

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Comment #27 by x Blood Vortex
Saturday, June 18, 2011 @ 09:56:35 PM
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i actually cant wait for the new nfs, i think it'll be like a comeback from hot pursuit. Arkham City is number one on my list to get this year. and i'm pretty amazed Halo 4 didn't make surprise of the show, but...Bungie isn't making it so its kind of disappointing :/

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Comment #28 by ConfederateSuga
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 07:10:01 AM
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@ #26 Fair enough. I'll be the last person to ever hate on Mass Effect for not being story-driven. I just thought that ME1 captured my emotions far greater than ME2 did. That's all I was getting at. For me, the complete RPG experience is being able to say, "damn....I REALLY got my money's worth on this game", and growing up in the classic age of RPGs, you can't really blame me for expecting an RPG to give me my 100+ hours of entertainment. I just feel cheapened when an RPG is less than 50 hours nowadays. I guess I'm old-school, but I'd rather have an RPG with shitty graphics and more in-game content (side quests, dungeons, loot tiers, boss monsters, etc.). The only RPGs I've throughly enjoyed this generation are Oblivion, Dragon Age and Sacred 2. I think I even had more fun playing Two Worlds 2 than Mass Effect 2. Not saying that TW2 is better than ME2, because that would be stupid. But in terms of replayability, it was the better game. Again, I'm not knocking ME2 at all. But ME1 had the better story, better decision making abilities/consequences, better scenarios, better plot lines, better side quests and a better overall ability to "suck someone in" to the game world. Oblivion did the same thing with me. I didn't view it as being a game with a main story and a bunch of side quests, though. I saw each individual faction as it's own "main" story. IE: Thieve's Guild, Mage's Guild, etc. I think it's a good year for fans on both sides of the aisle, though. Elder Scrolls and Mass Effect fans will both get their palette wet this year and no one's a "loser". :)

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Comment #29 by TRoW WAR GMRoW
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 08:22:43 AM
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Can't complain.


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Comment #30 by CrownlessKing
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 12:35:36 PM
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Much better then the IGN 'awards'.

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Comment #31 by MutantDuckling
Sunday, June 19, 2011 @ 06:16:15 PM
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Anyone heard anything about an alan wake sequal i read rumours it was going to be announced but have not heard if it actually was or not, i loved that game.

And on the whole skyrim, mass effect debate they are both going to be equally brilliant and will be getting both the day they are released

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Comment #32 by TheRealPoonJab
Monday, June 20, 2011 @ 05:01:53 PM
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Quoting this from your post....
'RPGs are about fantasy, about exploring a world different than yours with characters different from us. That is why I would say Mass Effect is more of an RPG than Oblivion because the universe of Mass Effect has captured me and kept me interested in the characters and the overarching story than Oblivion ever did.

In Oblivion as soon as I escaped from the prison I abandoned the main quest and went off exploring so I could loot dungeons for money and buy better equipment and such. In Mass Effect I was genuinely fascinated by the lore and the setting and the characters. I still started exploring and doing quests, but I did them with a purpose other than, "What can I kill/steal today?"'

Basically, from what I gathered, you explain both as an just played different roles in the really, how can you even say that Mass Effect is more of an RPG than Oblivion? According to your logic, they are both RPG's, and you just like one more than the other. Which is fine. Except they are both RPG's, without one being more RPG than the other.

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Comment #33 by chrisrforeman
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 01:42:35 AM
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UHH, from middle October till Middle November is gonna be graet/tough. About 10 games I HAVE to have.

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Comment #34 by Clankzz
Tuesday, June 21, 2011 @ 01:55:12 AM
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I was late pickig up Mass Effect games (completed both last week!!) but to say I'm excited for no3 is a bit of an understatement! buh!!!!

I have 9 games on pre-order for the end of this year! Expensive times :D

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Comment #35 by a fat turkey
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 11:25:22 PM
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Lol Mass Effect 3... That PoS is gonna suck like the last 2. Not even a real fucking RPG and I am tired of people praising a game that has very little to offer other than terrible looking character models, a very unlikable protagonist,a sucky dialouge system that just says "hey, if you wanna be good, pick blue. If not, pick red",and a way for all the little geeks to jerk off at the dumbass romance scenes.The story isn't even anything groundbreaking either. "oh noes! Aliens that want to take over the universe!" I am just sick of people talking about it like it is the greatest thing since sliced bread... Gaming is really going downhill when all people care about in games is the graphics and so-called "badass" moments in the game. All the actual fun games get shot down while sucky ass generic games reign supreme...

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Comment #36 by a fat turkey
Wednesday, June 22, 2011 @ 11:48:09 PM
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Sorry about that kind of unnecessary post above... Just kind of tired of only hearing about the same games every year. It's like hearing Christmas music in the middle of September. By the time it is actually Christmas you just don't want to hear it anymore.

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Comment #37 by JackJumpsCandle
Thursday, June 23, 2011 @ 11:13:48 AM
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God, I'm so freaking excited about Mass Effect 3!

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Comment #38 by ThoracicKez
Friday, June 24, 2011 @ 05:24:29 PM
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@2 they all suck (my balls)

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Comment #39 by lxlterroristlxl
Saturday, June 25, 2011 @ 08:33:19 PM
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No love for gears 3? :( :(

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Comment #40 by ChosenOne
Sunday, June 26, 2011 @ 12:22:29 AM
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List was pretty accurate. Skyrim 2011 GOTY, ME3 2012 GOTY.

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Comment #41 by ConfederateSuga
Tuesday, June 28, 2011 @ 05:27:32 AM
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@#40 -_- Nope. I'm keeping reservations for 2012. With the huge potential games that "should" come out in 2012, there's no way ME3 will hold up as GoTY. You have (potentially) GTA5, Red Dead Redemption 2 and a new TC Vegas game, aswell as the already confirmed Halo 4 and Rock Band 4. Not saying ME3 won't be a great game, but it's much too soon to give it a GoTY nod.

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Comment #42 by Tiano
Sunday, July 03, 2011 @ 09:02:50 AM
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I cannot wait for Forza Motorsport 4!

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Comment #43 by HalfEVILmonkey
Wednesday, July 06, 2011 @ 08:32:07 PM
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@#39: I am with you on this one, man. Gears 3 is GOTY in my opinion after seeing the new Horde mode.

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Comment #44 by OnionKnight14
Friday, July 08, 2011 @ 10:40:28 PM
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ffXIII-2 isnt the best RPG i call BS on that one

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Comment #45 by soflyinMS
Saturday, July 09, 2011 @ 10:59:32 AM
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Can't wait for most of these games. Thank God I'm starting work on Monday. I'll have some money to buy some games.

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Comment #46 by THC BLUNTED
Monday, July 11, 2011 @ 04:16:44 PM
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I think Skyrim should of won best RPG at show. Dont get me wrong I liked me some ME but when I think of RPGs I think of the 1st person elder scrolls games. We all know that ME2 dumbed down the RPG elements from the original and as they stated I am hoping they bring them back in ME3. I like ME1 & 2 and I think there was things from both games that made them great. But I am hoping that ME3 will be a blockbuster. Hoping for ME3 and knowing for Skyrim are 2 different things. I loved Oblivion and I know I will love Skyrim.

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Comment #47 by DORGINATOR
Wednesday, July 13, 2011 @ 04:53:09 AM
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confrense confrnse confrense confrense

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Comment #48 by SayHelloToMyRPG
Saturday, July 16, 2011 @ 03:39:38 PM
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Any more best lookers

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Comment #49 by Airemis05
Sunday, July 17, 2011 @ 03:53:38 AM
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I wld Take Skyrim over Mass Effect any day dont get me wrong i loved Me 1 and 2 and am planning on getting 3 as well bt honestly Skyrim as well as oblivion has more of an actually Rpg feel to it where Me 2 was "water-downed" it was simple and lack the real challenge even on its hardest difficulty im hoping ME 3 will pick up the slack and impress bt I loved oblivion and cannot wait to see what Skyrim has in store..

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Comment #50 by carook
Thursday, July 28, 2011 @ 07:57:29 AM
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I would have to say Skyward Sword was my favourite

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Comment #51 by maigc8888888088
Tuesday, August 02, 2011 @ 08:22:48 PM
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well I thoghut need for speed was making a comeback guess not

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Comment #52 by afxcollin
Wednesday, August 10, 2011 @ 10:45:26 PM
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Far cry 3 is gonna rock!!

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Comment #53 by Denson
Friday, August 12, 2011 @ 06:18:07 AM
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Arkham City & Forza 4 are up there on my to get list!

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Comment #54 by Shadow Walsh
Wednesday, August 17, 2011 @ 11:08:16 AM
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Gears of War 3 = Game of the year

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Comment #55 by slamurai
Friday, August 19, 2011 @ 02:18:39 PM
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Woohoo! Can't wait for Forza 4, need to get my motorhead on!

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Comment #56 by Optomistic
Saturday, August 20, 2011 @ 01:29:51 AM
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Forza 4 and far cry 3? sweeeet.

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Comment #57 by Saosin3679
Friday, September 09, 2011 @ 12:44:23 PM
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I love that people are bitching about the selections made. You do realize this is the opinion of the people on the site (its their opinion of what was the best) and while you may disagree, it doesn't change their opinion.

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Comment #58 by xXSooperdaveXx
Saturday, September 17, 2011 @ 12:35:49 PM
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Skyrim FTW

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Comment #59 by StevenBrightside
Friday, September 30, 2011 @ 06:56:40 PM
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Attually cannot wait for Forza 4, gonna be brilliant ! :D

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Comment #60 by kelnoker
Friday, October 21, 2011 @ 01:37:36 PM
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skyrim will be way more better than mass effect come on they should not even consider mass effect as an RPG it's just a shooter with some boring small building exploration. WAY more exploration in a elder scrolls than a mass effect. played oblivion and mass effect 1 i started laughing when i learned mass was an RPG rly

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Comment #61 by chrisy33m
Thursday, October 27, 2011 @ 01:51:03 PM
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i just got batman today :)

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Comment #62 by tietjen1st
Monday, November 21, 2011 @ 06:33:03 PM
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so many good games, im gonna have to sell a lot of blood to pay for them all.

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Comment #63 by windslash
Saturday, December 17, 2011 @ 08:39:52 PM
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Played Rayman at my mates house, soo freaking hard!
*Giggles* at the ammount of times we died on the 1st level! :D

P.s: I'm surprised CoD or GoW wasn't the top shooter?
Shellshocked at it being Bioshock..

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