Call of Duty: Black Ops
CoD: Black Ops 2 Multiplayer Rumours Bombard The Interweb
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Activision hasn't even got around to announcing it yet, but that hasn't stopped the internet from grinding into action with yet more rumours regarding Treyarch's proposed Call of Duty: Black Ops 2. That's even assuming that it'll be Treyarch and Black Ops 2. Nothing's official at present. Today sees some multiplayer details hitting the web, regardless.

The leaked multiplayer details come via MP1st, in a forum thread that has since been shut down by Activision, which only serves to lend a little extra weight to the rumoured modes and other features in the extensive list, which also reckons that the game will be releasing in November, which is admittedly a no-brainer.

Here's the complete list of rumoured Black Ops 2 features. Pinch of salt implied:

Game Modes

  • Escort, a new game mode
  • > Similar to Search and Destroy however a live player must be escorted to one of three areas (or two depending on the map) without being killed.
  • >The match will have rounds, consisting of one life only.
  • Drop Zone and Kill Confirmed will return
  • Team Defender and Infected will not return


  • Will follow from Modern Warfare 3’s system
  • Larger emphasis on objectives
  • > A bomb plant is worth 2 points
  • > A neutral flag is worth 1, however an enemy flag is worth 2
  • > A flag assist capture is worth 1, a capture is worth 2
  •  The Specialist Pointstreak has be modified
  • > 2 kills now gets you 1 perk
  • > The 4th kill gets you 2 more perks
  • > The 6th kill gets you 3 more perks
  • > The 8th Kill gets you 4 more perks
  • > You do not get every perk when you reach 8 kills
  • > Perks only become “Pro” when you have them Pro
  •  RC XD will not return
  • Heat vision
  • > Is a new Pointstreak reward
  • > When you get the required points, you can activate this Pointstreak and your player pulls out a scope and attaches it to your weapon.
  • > This scopes main advantage is it’s ability to detect enemies through most walls.
  • > Note, the scope can only be attached to primaries not including shotguns
  • Item Packages
  • > Requires 5 points
  • > Fall along side care packages and air drop traps.
  • > Features a list of package items only
  • > Including ammo, mini gun, grenade launcher, rocket launcher, and body armor


  • There will be 15 prestiges
  • There will be 50 ranks
  • Every two prestiges there is a 5 rank increase
  • The final prestige has 90 levels


  • ELITE is being fully incorporated into Black Ops 2
  • Combat record has been modified and re-named as ELITE Stats
  • There will be a specific lobby for clan matches (new way of leveling clans)
  • Clan Tournaments can now be implemented


  • No MOAB or Nuke
  • No last stand
  • No death streaks
  • No flame thrower attachment

Map Design

  • Map design and size will be following Black Ops not Modern Warfare 3

Sniper Rifles

  • Improved sniper rifle usage.
  • No aim assist for any sniper rifle.
  • Less sway


  • No longer just perk 1 chooses the players appearance
  • Appearance is a combination of all perks and type of Pointstreak being used.


  • Larger emphasis on hardcore than ever before
  • No grenade launchers
  • Only vehicle guided rocket launchers permitted
  • Respawn timings decreased (for most modes)
  • 1 bullet in the foot will no longer kill a person, a head or chest shot is usually required.
  • A person will now bleed out if severely injured.

Perk System 2.0

  • The Perk Pro system has been upgraded
  • There is now 2 options a perk can advance to.
  • Both require different challenges to unlock
  • Once the desired Pro version is unlocked, the player can select that as their “Perk Pro”.
  • Once selected, the only way to choose the other option is by entering prestige mode.
  • For example Perk slot 1 has the perk called Speed
  • Speed – Reduces the time taken to aim down the sight
  • > Pro I – Swaps weapons faster
  • > Pro II – Throws equipment faster

Combat Training

  • Will be returning with vast improvements.
  • Difficulty is no longer based on how long the bots take to start shooting.
  • Bots now have an advance AI system
  • Similar to the behaviour seen in the MW3 Spec Ops survival

Activision CEO Eric Hirshberg has promised "meaningful innovation" for the next Call of Duty title, as well as the arrival of CoD: Elite 2.0, and Treyarch and Infinity Ward will be collaborating on future Call of Duty games. Expect more rumours, conjecture and hearsay until Activision makes the next CoD official...

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Comment #1 by AtomFire
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:22:56 PM
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Comment #2 by R4wD0g496
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:23:48 PM
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Does anyone care at this point?

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Comment #3 by SPL1FF 91
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:25:11 PM
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Once selected, the only way to choose the other option is by entering prestige mode.

This seems and awful idea. To my understanding either forces prestige to fully unlock a perk or forces prestige if you select the wrong version

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Comment #4 by atomic viking54
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:25:19 PM
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sounds pretty awesome. might get back into cod after skipping mw3

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Comment #5 by Epic Gamer Will
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:25:30 PM
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I bet this is legit. But i don't give a s...

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Comment #6 by Rastaman20
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:26:29 PM
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oh yay.....another call of duty...*falls asleep*

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Comment #7 by KaiserFlamberge
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:26:32 PM
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Let's give Treyarch a round of applause for catering to the true CoD fans, and not the noobs. Because once again, they have to pick up Infinity Ward's slack.

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Comment #8 by 123yhman
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:28:12 PM
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This actually seems quite legit, I think maybe these features could very well be seen

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Comment #9 by Rapturous Rich
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:28:53 PM
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Look at that, Treyarch doing it better again. Who'd have thunk it?!

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Comment #10 by littlejay
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:29:38 PM
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To those that notice the changes and go back to the game, I hope you enjoy them. I don't notice the differences and can't stay interested in the online part of the game. Spec Ops is all I really like anymore and that's not worth $60 IMO.

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Comment #11 by DeanBriggz
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:29:55 PM
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Giant who cares.

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Comment #12 by ToTaL EclipsEz
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:31:20 PM
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Stop the press! Another Call of Duty :P

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Comment #13 by Chicken Taco
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:31:47 PM
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Begin the huge wall of complaining from people about how the series sucks, even though they could just not click on the news link. Etc, etc, etc.

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Comment #14 by Aussie27Legend
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:33:38 PM
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RC-XD won't return? Well there goes a lot of free kills.

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Comment #15 by SilvereX
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:34:55 PM
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The way I see it is that Treyarch makes a good game, Infinity Ward goes overboard with features, Treyarch gets rid of all the cancer and makes a game not quite as good as their last game, and the cycle continues.

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Comment #16 by oysterboy13
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:35:56 PM
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I liked Combat training mode from Black Ops but felt it was dumb that I had to go through unlocking everything to try it out. I hope this mode this time just has everything unlocked. None of it carries into actual multiplayer so why not.

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Comment #17 by hotdogenigma
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:39:32 PM
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Removed - zombies and the stupid achievements associated with it.

No? Well worth a shot.

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Comment #18 by dog eat waffle
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:42:14 PM
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First off they need to change the melee system, its always been bad and I don't understand why they keep it (lazyness I suppose)

A new game engine would also be good, but they are too scared to mess with the cod fanboi's.

Infection is the best mode in cod ever though, despite it being stolen from Halo....

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Comment #19 by ThousandLegs01
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:43:16 PM
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just slap a CALL OF DUTY sticker on it and it'll sell anyway even if it had a kill streak of a guy riding a donkey firing an rpg and shouting in french =/

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Comment #20 by Sharaf
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:45:32 PM
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I Think I love You Call Of Duty......Cant Wait U

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Comment #21 by FeyenoordMike
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:45:41 PM
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I only care about zombie information, excited to see where theu are taking that

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Comment #22 by ash356
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:45:56 PM
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Oh. All the 'haters' now appear to be saving face and pretending they don't care in the first place, despite so many people bitching about the series in the past.
OT: Might pick up Black Ops 2. Namely because I loved Black ops xD
Having skipped MW3, it'll be nice to get back after a short break :)

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Comment #23 by BeheldBryan
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:47:01 PM
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Last stand removed? About fucking time. Now remove assassin/ghost/whatever the hell they'll call it this time so people won't just camp in a corner with it.

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Comment #24 by ash356
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:48:43 PM
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Hate to burst your bubble, but Halo stole the Infection idea from Timesplitters 2's 'Virus' in the first place.

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Comment #25 by Opiate42
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:49:16 PM
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Black Ops was fun.

MW2 & MW3 were not.

IW better keep their fucking damn dirty paws off this one.

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Comment #26 by RD9703
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:50:28 PM
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I think the Treyarch versions of CoD are better than the IW versions, so I'm kinda excited for it, even though its aaages until it arrives. Treyarch games are more fun, better designed, fewer noobs and most of all hardly ever any quick-scoping !£$%^&*(^%$%$£""!!!""$$


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Comment #27 by Mad Man
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:51:33 PM
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@Post #7

I with you on this one.

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Comment #28 by DeadMan634
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:56:13 PM
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As long as it has a bunch of (ZOMBIE) maps and I mean A BUNCH not just 5.. I want to see a Carnival, School, Beach, Zoo, ETC. Zombies was the best part about Black Ops 1.. :)

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Comment #29 by Xero Shinobi
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:57:44 PM
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I loved Black Ops, so many good times staying up to the early hours with mates playing it online. Then MW3 came out. Please make this more like Black Ops, MW3 was complete and utter SHIT. Pleaaaase :'(

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Comment #30 by Rickmassacre
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:58:05 PM
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no last stand and no death streaks


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Comment #31 by Shadow Warlock
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:58:54 PM
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If you buy this game and have bought all the other CODs then consider yourself retarded.

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Comment #32 by DeadMan634
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 12:59:07 PM
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The COD's multiplayer is really boring now its the same thing every year.. Zombies and the Campaign is all that I like.. no zombies no buy..

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Comment #33 by Hansathan
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:03:06 PM
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A scope that can see through walls? Lol. Also sounds like they took the Mass Effect upgrade system, with the choosing from one of two options when you max, or "pro" a perk.

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Comment #34 by kp84k
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:03:17 PM
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RC XD will not return
No MOAB or Nuke
No last stand
No death streaks
No flame thrower attachment
Team Defender and Infected will not return
No aim assist for any sniper rifle.
Map design and size will be following Black Ops not Modern Warfare 3

These are all good things if they are true...

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Comment #35 by TheSilvermaster
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:04:02 PM
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Big deal it's not exactly news that the next Call of Duty multiplayer is taking things from the previous year and adding them to itself. Besides Zombies is what's important in Black Ops hope the campaign is as good as last time and hope the zombies continues to improve but leave out the easter egg nonsense and focus on making zombies mode more fun. Looking forware to this its gonna be Black Ops 2 Infinity Ward went last turn so it's Treyarchs turn this year and with the success they had with Black Ops you just know there will be a sequel. Medal of Honor Warfighter may look better but I bet this will be more fun.

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Comment #36 by WalterWhite
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:07:05 PM
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They haven't even announced the game yet dumbass. Of course it will have zombies, it's Treyarch's biggest feature and always the last to be revealed.

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Comment #37 by HugTheBear
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:08:46 PM
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Infinity Ward, please stay away from my Treyarch. Thanks.

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Comment #38 by bryan1187
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:09:30 PM
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New name, aspects removed/ aspects added. Multiplayer needs to be updated more than this. An updated graphics engine is needed. I understand recycling is a necessary evil when a game sellsso well and people continue buying it but cmon already. At least do something visually different. Just changing perks and modes isnt really that exciting for a yearly release. Why not add more character customization or better rpg aspects. I used to love COD and am saddened by the fact that i have to wait till the next gen consoles come out to buy a new cod :(

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Comment #39 by killerswat255
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:10:12 PM
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pay 40 quid for a game, to then have to pay 40 quid for elite? go fuck yaself.

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Comment #40 by konartis101
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:13:39 PM
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is it just or is anyone else getting really of hearing about call of duty over hyped crap imo

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Comment #41 by Lee71
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:13:59 PM
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*complains about another COD*



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Comment #42 by TSG Dwaggie
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:14:15 PM
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yeahj, not buying this at all. especially with treyarch's habit of doing extremely-overpriced map pack DLC. Fuck the whole lot, I'll stick to my kids games. At least I know what I'm paying for. I don't have to shell out another £30+ for DLC I'll play until I got the achievements then never play agian.

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Comment #43 by i got squeezed
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:14:31 PM
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This CoD game looks very well balanced and I love it. No last stand and no death streaks? I'm happy as hell.

Just release some zombie info Treyarch, please?

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Comment #44 by Masta Mylez
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:15:05 PM
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It's like Groundhog Day when it comes to CoD.

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Comment #45 by Spun77xLucky Stricke
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:15:18 PM
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Comment #46 by Tridenter
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:19:15 PM
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And in the end, it will still be exactly the same.

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Comment #47 by ColtoN899
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:21:59 PM
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No deathstreak sounds sweet.

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Comment #48 by B Rock3232
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:22:39 PM
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I like how they are making the sniper rifles better so no noob little kids running around spraying and praying. I hate they are getting rid of the RC I loved using that thing to sneak up on people who camped. Very surprised they are getting rid of last stand and death streaks. I really like how its more emphasis on hardcore. Over all sounds decent.

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Comment #49 by Problemo
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:23:05 PM
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@31 Says the guy with a Final Fantasy gamerpic

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Comment #50 by ian24971
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:26:09 PM
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They've forgot to mention that there will be a monthly subscription to play multiplayer, because let's face it... that's where it's heading these days!

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Comment #51 by meanjohnny
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:27:07 PM
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OMG! Can not wait!! :)

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Comment #52 by IC3 L3G3ND
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:29:06 PM
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COD sucks since COD4, nuff said

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Comment #53 by TheBrute1997
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:32:21 PM
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@31 Consider yourself a disrespectful twat.

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Comment #54 by THC BLUNTED
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:43:55 PM
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Funny how COD needs to make a new game to fix all of their problems. Most of this stuff could easily be implemented in a patch but then why would anyone buy the next game? At least Battlefield fixes its mistakes and improves their game, thats more than could be said about COD and its broken shit.

The only thing worth playing are the campaign and zombies but even that seems pretty half assed lately.

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Comment #55 by Timmsy
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:44:30 PM
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Comment #56 by ooh ahh mcgrath
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:46:33 PM
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Finally giving the hardcore players something,dont know how anyone plays core modes.

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Comment #57 by ll Mr Bubbles ll
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:46:34 PM
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another cod "yawn" and they are copying most things from mw3 ... shame... HOWEVER i do like alot of the changes , no explosives in hardcore mode except anti air, no aim assist for wannabe quickscopers and they finally remove last stand/ death streak. No longer will noobs be rewarded for being bad.

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Comment #58 by Dr Popodopolus
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:50:37 PM
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Every Treyarch 'innovation' is just a clean up of IW's attempt to innovate.

I'm done with Call of Duty 1st day hype, it is impossible to get hyped for it now.

Even the most avid of fans have to be tired of it.

As long as Ghost exists, Black Ops will be broken..

in CoD 4, the best CoD MP game, UAV Jammer was balanced with Stopping Power and Juggernaut dominating the category.

Ghost has no real meaningful competition in Blops.

Get lost Call of Duty, getting excited so many months prior to release, for a game that isn't even announced, is a rather sad state of affairs for the sixth meaningful Call of Duty for six years in a row.

Coming from a guy who played CoD 4 and MW2 religiously [also 8th on Blops]

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Comment #59 by BoneyMichael
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:52:11 PM
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I have not been bothered by COD for a while and play battlfield mainly but will be getting MW3 since its cheap. Activision are getting bashed a lot but all people seem to want is evolution but only talk about zombie.

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Comment #60 by rrushn
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:53:45 PM
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I have faith in Treyarch.

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Comment #61 by Sarcastro
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:54:07 PM
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My favorite bit of info was "no aim assist on any sniper rifles."

I detest quick scoping. This will be a welcome addition that took too long to implement. Now, if they can remove drop shotting, I'll probably play it for more than a month or two.

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Comment #62 by Tomtam
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 01:58:07 PM
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Please be a good COD. MW3 was not at all what I expected.. It will have zombies most likely though, Spec ops just sucks.

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Comment #63 by xGallade
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:00:30 PM
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Treyarch > Infinity Whored

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Comment #64 by Tim 13
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:01:00 PM
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WHO. THE HELL. CARES. Black Ops was fucking terrible! Treyarch blows at making Call of Duty games, and if Infinity Ward is any indication, the longer they drag the shit out, the worse it gets. Sorry, I like Modern Warfare 3, but it's not the best of the series. The best was Call of Duty 4, followed by Modern Warfare 2, followed by Modern Warfare 3. Treyarch's Call of Duty games are so worthless that I don't even care to rank them. Treyarch's number one Call of Duty game, you ask? Hmm... I think I'd have to say Spider-Man 2. If they make another Spider-Man 2, I'm on board. Otherwise, I stand by my statement that I hope IW and Treyarch "collaborating" means that IW will come to Treyarch's offices, break their pencils, smash their monitors, and find anybody with the word "Creative" in their title and punch them in the face.

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Comment #65 by b-radicate
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:02:42 PM
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Sorry, but my FPS needs will be fulfilled by Borderlands 2 and FarCry 3 this season. Those are games offering huge improvements and compelling gameplay.

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Comment #66 by hotdogenigma
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:06:38 PM
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@31 I didn't buy CoD 3 (I've played it but never bought it), nor did I buy any of the expansion packs. Does that still make me a retard? Just curious how many Final Fantasy games there have been?

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Comment #67 by WREQUIEM
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:08:51 PM
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@64 thinking mw2 & 3 were better than black ops=lol

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Comment #68 by Kal_El
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:09:30 PM
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it amazes me that u all hate cod this much..but keep talking about it..always commenting..y do u click these articles to troll? if you're a cod fan then u know when the game is good and when it isn't...mw3 was not a good ops 2 will be a good game..treyarch puts a lot of effort into the game and supports it well into it's life stfu and stop hating on the game! day 1 buy and 25days of online multiplayer guaranteed for me!

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Comment #69 by Jaws as Crowns
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:11:06 PM
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@49 now whats wrong with Final Fantasy?

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Comment #70 by plum
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:17:08 PM
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Not getting it cause it's way to boring now just buying the same game every year and prestegeing,the franchise is down the shitter but I WISH they would hurry up and discount the zombie map packs already that's the only thing I like in when that happens I will get blops back to 100% it.

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Comment #71 by dalton32389
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:23:46 PM
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i prefer blops to mw3. i will check the sequel out.

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Comment #72 by x Blood Vortex
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:32:30 PM
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I really just want zombies so i can play it with friends. no zombies= no buy.

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Comment #73 by eiVaL
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:36:01 PM
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Combat Training

Will be returning with vast improvements.
Difficulty is no longer based on how long the bots take to start shooting.
Bots now have an advance AI system
Similar to the behaviour seen in the MW3 Spec Ops survival


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Comment #74 by Equipment
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:41:49 PM
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Is this the 'meaningful innovation' they were talking about a while ago?

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Comment #75 by resevil239
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:42:19 PM
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Not a huge CoD fan, but I love me some zombies and team death match can be so addicting! Glad they took out the sniper auto-aim. hopefully that means less quick scoping BS (which was so bad in MW3. I'm glad I only rented MW3). Perks sound better, I just wish there was some info on zombies.

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Comment #76 by resevil239
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:45:06 PM
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I;m also glad there not following the "sniper only" style of MW3. Maps were WAY too open for someone as close-mid range as me and with the ludicrous quick scoping in MW3, it made other styles next to impossible. If last stand is supposed to mean Second chance then I'm a little annoyed at that one. I got SO many kills from idiots who didn't realize I wasn't dead.

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Comment #77 by GaryYEAH
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:47:23 PM
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"Map design and size will be following Black Ops not Modern Warfare 3."

HAHA! Love it. I hated *Black Ops* and *Modern Warfare 3*, but this I can commend Treyarch (supposedly) for. They're pretty much saying, "*MW3*'s maps looked and played like shit. We're changing that."

I'm hopeful, but, as ever, cynical as well.


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Comment #78 by threefiftyzzz
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:48:45 PM
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I saw this yesterday and after I read no death streaks it makes me believe this is more of a love to see it happen though cause I love the 2 points for enemy flag caps..everything else sounds great

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Comment #79 by Project K-2
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:50:44 PM
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Same $hit, different name. 'nuff said!

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Comment #80 by Rekker09172194
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:53:31 PM
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Are they going to sell out to Jeep for the second time? They ran those Blops commercials for months both after and before release.

Well, Activision does anything for money, so that would be a big fat yes.

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Comment #81 by blackbriar83
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:56:42 PM
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If activation was is Mass Effect they would be the Reapers. Recycle & Repeat...

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Comment #82 by Xero Shinobi
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 02:59:56 PM
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@18 - Shows how much you know. Why don't you research a bit more, maybe then you'd see Time Splitters pulled off the infection game mode perfectly, infact I don't know a single game since then that has topped the masterful experience Time Splitters 2 had. The way the people screamed as they chased you, the sheer mass of infected and survivors. It was fucking amazing. My best FPS gaming experience, likely to remain the best until we see a new Time Splitters announced, but who am I kidding?

God I miss Time Splitters :'(

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Comment #83 by Poisonheadcrab
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:00:46 PM
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Hopefully the last prestige and level gives an option to swap between both Pro Perk options.

...otherwise I hope they do well, but I still am sub-optimistic.

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Comment #84 by Doomsayer2272
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:18:04 PM
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I'm iffy on this one. I enjoyed Black Ops, but skipped out on MW3. Sad they took out infection. Whenever I played MW3, that's what I played.

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Comment #85 by Animal Mother
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:19:42 PM
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I already told my brother if he bought it and wasted his money I wouldn't take him anywhere anymore. I feel sorry for the suckers that get ripped on this game, even though I haven't seen it. Hate to say it, but the people that STILL play those games are useful idiots. You buy games you complain about, also read as you you just have to replace it, meanwhile they get rich.

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Comment #86 by Original
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:21:15 PM
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@82 Share your Tears with me bro! :'(
R.I.P Corporal Hart

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Comment #87 by Dark Knight1990
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:22:46 PM
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Ok, the clan matches are a nice touch. Might just convince me to purchase the game. The lack of Clan Ops on ELITE now is unforgivable. It's the biggest reason my friends and I bought it to begin with.

I'm happy to see they're taking the need for change seriously, I just wish they would develop a new engine. I'll wait to actually play it before making any judgments on the game.

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Comment #88 by Mrryan12
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:26:13 PM
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Weird, I hated COD while it was at it's best, around COD4 and WaW. Now other people start getting pissed off and hating it, I actually think it is kinda fun. But all the people talking shit about CoD are just, well... Talking shit. I bet most of the people who jumped on the CoD hating bandwagon will be getting it first day.

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Comment #89 by Hilaryduffgta
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:30:58 PM
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Personally I think Treyarch is doing a much better job now with the cod series the infinte ward is,i'll be looking forward to this and will probably be playing black ops 2 for a good amount of time,Cant wait for november to get here.

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Comment #90 by IX G0DFATH3R XI
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:32:21 PM
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It's AMAZING how many people FAIL to read that Infinity Ward and Trey Arch WILL BE COLLABORATING on COD games from now on. Come on people read the article and please stop complaining about the game if you dont like it go post on BF3's forums and stop hating. I think most of these changes are great nice to see some of the bad aspects of the game beign changed.

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Comment #91 by SoarStaraptor
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:33:08 PM
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If I had a dollar for every time it gets lamer, I'd have one dollar.

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Comment #92 by ademlakey
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:38:32 PM
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I'd rather let a buffalo take a diarrhea dump in my ear than buy another call of duty game.

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Comment #93 by Conker69
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:46:05 PM
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I'll be playing Pokemon Black and White2

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Comment #94 by domn8rdom
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:46:38 PM
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Im a big infection fan, but I understand why its not returning because Treyarch doesn't have the 15 foot knife lunge = unfair advantage for infected

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Comment #95 by ZingZitang
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 03:54:45 PM
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I've always thought that Treyarch makes better Call of Duty Games. World at War was, and still is the best of them all. But I Lol at how many people are just now saying Treyarch is better. They just now realized how terrible a Developer infinity ward really is.

Im glad everyone can finally see through all the overrated hype, and see the truth about infinity ward/modern warfare.

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Comment #96 by pittbull42
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 04:27:08 PM
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Activision about to make more millions for just poo

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Comment #97 by pittbull42
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 04:28:29 PM
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mon the cod2

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Comment #98 by 1morey
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 04:29:39 PM
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Ok, this is interesting if this is true.

*puts on flame blanket*

Now, I need info on the campaign and zombies.

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Comment #99 by daseeker25
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 04:46:05 PM
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I don't like the multiplayer of cod really and I hope if theres zombies again it'll be cheaper since its not worth $15 to get 1 zombie map if you don't play the multiplayer. Release them separate then they would get my cash for zombie maps as long as they're resonably priced. (if they had $5 for one zombie map then 10 for like 2-3 multiplayer maps or whatever they do i'd be great with that)

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Comment #100 by ThoracicKez
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 04:51:27 PM
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why does everyone hate infinity ward, the first two modern warfares were very good (the third wasn't) to me the treyarch games arent very fun

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Comment #101 by StarsAndStraps1
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 05:06:06 PM
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i really am tired of people complaining that its the same thing over and over again...

it obviously isnt if it was the same every time then the modes wouldnt change, weapons, attachments, perks, everything would remain exactly how it was. so you people cant say that its always the same cause it isnt. i know im being very vague but it is true.

So are you all saying that....Halo, Gears, BF arent all the same? cause they pretty much are as well. with slight changes in each new version just like COD. i understand the need for competition but for the past 5 years we have seen games from each franchise year after year even if it isnt a sequal its still a game.

i will say this tho im not a fan of zombie mode, or Spec. Ops. infact im not a fan of any wave based game type, its boring and id rather play against real people. i really despise wave based types and i feel that making a good chunk of the achievements based on them isnt a bad idea i mean it gets people to play it.... but games where multiplayer dominates, then id like to see 85% of the achievements based off multiplayer actions.

i own, and like all games despite them being similar year after year. but come on people just because COD is one of the top selling games of all time doesnt mean you need to just bash the hell out of it every year

but hey....


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Comment #102 by StarsAndStraps1
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 05:09:15 PM
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oh i almost forgot.......

when the release date comes you guys should totally release game fuel Mountain dew =P that stuff is SOOOOOOOOOO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD

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Comment #103 by F4m1LyGuy10
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 05:32:32 PM
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@100 Exactly. Everyone forgets the horrendous game that was CoD 3. Also, while WaW was a great game, it was basically a CoD 4 clone in the WWII era. Some people may have greatly enjoyed Black Ops, but I found it mediocre at best. Switching sides, Infinity Ward made CoD 1/2/4, all amazing games. MW2 was a good game, but IW's lack of support made it so much worse. However, instead of focusing on this IW/Treyarch debate, we all should support Respawn Entertainment and their first game.

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Comment #104 by Shadow Warlock
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 05:45:55 PM
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I love how everyones calling me out for bashing COD and then saying "Says the person who likes Final Fantasy" or "How many Final Fantasy have there been?"

Well, Jackasses right now in the numbered variety theres 14, but you know the difference between them and COD? They don't release every fucking year. Each one has alot of major changes or a completely different story to the last.

Another HUGE difference, there is 2 Final Fantasy games on the 360 at the moment and guess how many COD games? FUCKING 6 Counting this one, so fuck all you idiots that try and say Final Fantasy is milked, at least time and effort goes into the games and they aren't released EVERY FUCKING YEAR YOU FUCKING RETARDS.

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Comment #105 by Rekker09172194
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:04:52 PM
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Are you fucking blind or just an ignorant fanboy? They havent changed the engine ever one bit since it was created and used in CoD4. Please note that CoD4 came out in 2007. Thats why people say its the same, because although the devs spend hours making stupid, fake, and unrealistic guns they have spend literally no time on the engine itself.

You can put more icing on the cake that tastes bad, but the cake will still taste like shit.

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Comment #106 by Smurfboy
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:05:31 PM
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Call of Duty Black Ops 2 and Halo 4 are going to keep me busy for the rest of this year. All other games can wait until next two years. :)

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Comment #107 by Shadow Warlock
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:19:11 PM
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@105 At least someone see's it right, it's also amazing how he says games like Halo only change a little bit too, when they seriously don't, at least the engine from Halo 3 got a MAJOR uphaul and change for Halo:Reach and once again is getting another major update for Halo 4.

For COD it's stayed the exact fucking same with a tiny tweak in the graphics.


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Comment #108 by The Red Russian
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:23:47 PM
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none of these seem like "meaningful innovation"

...i doubt that much of this is true, though. well, i WANT to doubt it...

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Comment #109 by Time Victim
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:27:09 PM
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[Insert Battlefield fanboy comment here]
Where's my thumbs up?

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Comment #110 by ademlakey
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:34:31 PM
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@101 Gears, Halo and BF didnt come out year after year you ignorant ass. Why put something like "haters gonna hate" as if you dont care yet you write a wall of garbage on how they dont improve anything that much
gears added 4 player co-op, beast mode, new charecters and weapons. COD just added new weapons.

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Comment #111 by Mrryan12
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 06:39:27 PM
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@107 Pretty much this. While I do agree with you, the reason the engine will never change is because it is such an easy game to pick up and play. Say you played COD about 3 years ago, haven't played since, you can start playing again in no time, just because the gameplay is so familiar. Even if you have never played before, it is pretty fun, and easy to do. Also, lets face it, if changing the guns, maps, and other similar things is enough "change" for your average COD fanboy, there is not much demand to change the engine.

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Comment #112 by Hagane
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 07:04:13 PM
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"No aim assist for any sniper rifle."

I think this is the biggest change in COD history. No more using a sniper in CQC, only "true sniping" from here on out. :D

Imagine all those "quickscopers" biting their nails right now.

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Comment #113 by Brandeniuz
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 07:27:33 PM
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@105 Oh no, they used the same engine for four years. Big fucking deal. That's no time at all.

Hardly any game developers create a new engine for their series every few years. Do you even know how long it takes to develop an engine? A good two to three years at least. Plus then they have to actually develop the game. That's at least five years. What an idiot.

Also, I love how on an article about the changes in the next CoD, people are complaining that it never changes. Wow.

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Comment #114 by Brandeniuz
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 07:37:03 PM
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@110 Clear example of bias. "Cod just added new weapons." Right.

Let's name just a few of the things introduced in MW3, off the top of my head.

- New weapons
- New maps
- New equipment
- New pointstreak system
- New pointstreaks
- New unlock system
- Spec Ops Survival
- A new campaign
- New Spec Ops missions
- Kill Confirmed
- Infected
- Drop Zone
- Team Defender
- Clan integration
- Elite
- Improved audio
- Improved visuals
- Probably more that I can't think of

Yeah, new weapons was the only thing in MW3, obviously.

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Comment #115 by Corpse87
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 07:49:23 PM
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no infected or team defender,you might want to reconsider those modes as they are the only fun ones on 3!

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Comment #116 by quaneylfc
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 07:50:00 PM
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just sounds like 'the shit players' wishlist'

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Comment #117 by Axel Desade
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:13:13 PM
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I'll just go out and say it. I still enjoy Black Ops and play it to this day, even with being 15th 50. If this is true it sounds like it'll be great. I've always preferred Treyarch to IW, and if all these things happen this time will be no different.

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Comment #118 by TheRealBr1ghtShadow
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:25:44 PM
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To be honest, I really enjoyed the first Black Ops. As much as I was wildly in love with MW2, for some reason Black Ops was just so much fun. I somewhat expected a repeat performance with MW3, but sadly that wasn't the case, but to be competely honest, this is extremely excited. Treyarch is amazing and hopefully they whoop IW's ass for once.

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Comment #119 by Makaveli_Don7
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:28:03 PM
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EVERYONE trashes IW but what was the best call of duty of all time? COD4 and who made that? who made call of duty 1 and 2? how about mw2 or mw3?? I like treyarch to but come on this shit is getting old.Dont like dont buy like honestly.

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Comment #120 by Colby
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:32:50 PM
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Infinity ward is wayyy better than treyarch! MW3 will be my last cod but i will continue to play its awesomeness.

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Comment #121 by Crims0nPenguin
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:33:25 PM
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To everyone who says they don't give a crap... you sure gave enough to click the article and post a comment about it...

You may think it makes you look cool but really you just look like a hypocrite...

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Comment #122 by oO Triple G Oo
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:36:38 PM
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I loved the campaign of Black Ops and the CONCEPT of the Pentagon zombies map. Still not a fan of the gameplay of zombies, so here's hoping that's better. I'll get it for the campaign, regardless. Really hope it gets taken into the 80's with some late Cold War stuff.

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Comment #123 by Colby
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 08:42:46 PM
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@110 you should look your facts up cuz battlefield has released a game every year since 2008. 1943 was released in 2009

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Comment #124 by ATOMICKILA3000
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 09:47:48 PM
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#123 While you are right that BF has released a game every year since 2008, COD has done it for like 8-9 years. And wasn't 1943 an arcade game?

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Comment #125 by Rednacht
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 09:55:24 PM
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I liked Black Op's campaign. Can't wait for 2

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Comment #126 by BKNaB
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 10:04:28 PM
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Comment #127 by oO Triple G Oo
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 10:19:58 PM
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@124: Yes, 1943 was an arcade game. So you can count CoD: Classic, if we're taking that stuff into consideration.

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Comment #128 by secretkaos187
Wednesday, March 28, 2012 @ 10:59:56 PM
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Seems Legit

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Comment #129 by achievementjockey
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 12:24:40 AM
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Treyarch probably making another crap game. Will only buy for zombies.

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Comment #130 by Zenka The Myth
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 12:46:29 AM
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Ahhh, I'm pissed they're not bringing back infected, it has quickly became my favorite mode in MW3, but I do like that Treyarch (unlike Infinity Ward)actually try to counter quick scoping.

Also I don't get all the people hating... "CoD never changes", "It's the same every year", "Battlefield is better", if you don't want CoD then piss off, no one's forcing you to buy it, but no, you will buy it and it'll be the game you played most for the whole year, so stfu.

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Comment #131 by tdogg769
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 01:02:09 AM
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I love how people say "who cares about COD" and yet COD gets the most comments on these posts..hmmmmm..

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Comment #132 by xIAmAZombiex
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 01:25:35 AM
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"A rational and relevant comment on the CoD series' next instalment"
-no one ever

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Comment #133 by XxMayhemxX
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 01:58:58 AM
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@23... no it seem slike you pick pro 1 or pro 2... for the perk... so lets say you pick 1... if you want 2.. you'll have to prestige, and start over... so it's like a skill tree in an rpg... only without being able to reset skillpoints...

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Comment #134 by jtr1gg3r
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 02:16:31 AM
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Bored of COD now.

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Comment #135 by JT Gregory
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 02:20:28 AM
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Clan levelling sounds cool =)

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Comment #136 by Venomized
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 02:47:47 AM
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you're kidding right? Did you know in Halo 2 the community made lots of gametypes in custom games that were never in the matchmaking of halo 2?

Zombies/infection is one of them. There were many gametypes people created that Halo 3 decided to actually use.

And to say Halo stole it from timesplitters? Every idea you could say was stolen from something.

Hell you could say timesplitters stole the idea from a bunch of kids who play a game called "man hunt" (one of the many names). Where one kid is "it" and once he tags another kid he is also "it" until everyone is "it".

Fucking people now-a-days saying how these gametypes were stolen from other games.

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Comment #137 by GrislyDW13
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 03:25:26 AM
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No RC-XD? Darn. That was the best thing on MP for me.
Let's hope that remains a 'rumor'.

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Comment #138 by robpears
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 04:36:15 AM
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Only worth buying for Zombies, hate CoD multiplayer.

I'd love it if they just released a completely standalone zombies game.

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Comment #139 by ShadoW zonE
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 07:01:01 AM
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This CoD will be worth the money only if it has zombies! That was the best thing in Black Ops!!!

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Comment #140 by Jtpearl
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 10:16:59 AM
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@104-Maybe if you stated your opinion in a mature manner and not come across as a small child who just learned how to cuss, others wouldn't feel a need to degrade you about FF.

On topic- Interesting list to say the least. The leak of info last year on MW3 ended up being pretty much right on but, as others have said, this one does seem like a wish list. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.

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Comment #141 by Jake Joey
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 10:52:18 AM
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If you people hate Call of Duty so much why are you on a forum about it? Leave COD forums for the COD players. If you don't like the game then that's fine but don't go on a COD forum to deliberately slag it off.

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Comment #142 by Rekker09172194
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 01:48:04 PM
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Care to tell me where you got those ridiculous estimates for designing new engines?


Colby, I am pretty sure an arcade game doesn't count as a yearly release. I do my homework in all my subjects, including Language Arts. Judging by your grammar, I assume your Language Arts class is nonexistent.

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Comment #143 by pilule 1995
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 03:32:33 PM
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Comment #144 by pilule 1995
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 03:34:14 PM
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Omg, this looks good, can't wait to get a look at it, and I hope there will be good maps for free for all, no ffa no buy for me.

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Comment #146 by pilule 1995
Thursday, March 29, 2012 @ 03:37:07 PM
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Damn just shut up with COD suck already, do you think we'll buy your game because you're saying this game sucks, no.

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Comment #147 by aim of kronic
Friday, March 30, 2012 @ 01:27:21 AM
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Comment #148 by aim of kronic
Friday, March 30, 2012 @ 01:36:23 AM
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and they just annouced MW4 for November 2013.. mark your calendars!

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Comment #149 by cc294
Friday, March 30, 2012 @ 10:20:46 AM
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cod starting to get old real fast its just so shit a cycle of recycled games :(

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Comment #150 by gravelandx88
Friday, March 30, 2012 @ 12:56:11 PM
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I really wish COD would set the settings back in WWII. Make it into a 2-part series. First half of WWII, depicting the Rise of the Axis Powers (starting in Sept 1st, 1939). Second half of WWII, Fall of Axis Powers (ending in Sept 2nd, 1945). Each game a 15-20 hour campaign? A win/win both for Treyarch & fans of the old COD.

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Comment #151 by Akuza
Saturday, March 31, 2012 @ 03:12:26 AM
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@1 + 2 you will buy cod, you are aware of this? You've probably bought every other cod there is going. So stfu and live with it and stop trying to look "cool" by saying you hate it.

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Comment #152 by Jake Joey
Sunday, April 01, 2012 @ 07:47:45 AM
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@2 So if you don't care please explain to me why you have read this article and are posting on a forum about it?

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Comment #153 by Tang E G
Wednesday, April 11, 2012 @ 06:03:37 AM
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I really like combat training and I hope you can prestige on it in BO2

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Comment #154 by zDooLeY
Wednesday, April 18, 2012 @ 11:34:36 AM
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Out of all the CoD's, Black Ops was the onlyone that came close to CoD 4 for me !

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