Cliff Bleszinski: Bulletstorm Should Have Had Versus MP, Would Like to Make a Firefly Game
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Taking to Reddit over the weekend, Epic's Cliff Bleszinski has been fielding questions from fans on a variety of subjects, some light and frothy, some disposable and others slightly more pertinent, like the perceived luke-warm reception that Bulletstorm received upon its release.

"It sold fairly well and as the fella below mentioned it had a good critical reception," Bleszinski noted. "The kill with skill system was rather unique and innovative, however, when it comes to shooting it's really hard to encourage a gamer to "play with their food" because we're trained in our shooting games to be as ruthlessly efficient as possible."

Bleszinski also partly took the rap for Bulletstorm's marketing, which he stated was "off kilter". "The marketing (which I was partially responsible for!) was also a bit off kilter for the game. The problem with the unique language in the title (Rick Remender did a stellar job on the writing, BTW) is that it becomes the standout thing that can outshine the graphics, world, gameplay and story.

"Suddenly you're the game with "Dicktits" in it, marketing latches onto that, and people might not take the property as serious as you'd like," Bleszinski reflected, before lamenting the lack of a competitive mode for Bulletstorm. "Also, I believe we should have had a versus multiplayer in the game."

Also, quizzed on his dream projects, Bleszinski claimed that he'd love to do a game based on cult classic Coen Brothers movie The Big Lebowski, "...for every system. It'd tie all the gaming platforms together," and a game based upon Joss Whedon's ill-fated Firefly. "I've always wanted to make a game about a lost dog who has to find his way home," he also mused.

Bleszinski's biggest regret meanwhile? "The online launch of Gears 2 and the fact that it barely worked upon launch. It broke my heart."



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Comment #1 by Bongo Bongo347
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 09:57:12 AM
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Not sure what that would be like with the whip and kick.

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Comment #2 by Floodclaw
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:01:32 AM
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A...Big Lebowski game? What would that even...?

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Comment #3 by 123yhman
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:02:34 AM
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I thought the writing in Bulletstorm was fantastic!

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Comment #4 by Nico8912
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:02:43 AM
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I disagree, not every shooter needs a versus mode. I think Bulletstorm and Bioshock are two games that don't.

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Comment #5 by dark_shard
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:04:09 AM
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Whedon would definitely have to be involved with the creation of a Firefly game for it to turn out well. As long as it were handled properly, I'd be all for it!

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Comment #6 by XxStuartxX 1990
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:06:28 AM
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I really like this guy, I know a lot of people don't, but to me he justs seems to genuinely care about gaming as a whole and isnt just money money money, which a refreshing break away from the guys at Acti and EA.

Cliffy B and Pritchard are the only two guys that get interviewed that are genuine gamers, and its sad that the industry has been taken over by essentially fat cats.

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Comment #7 by Tridenter
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:10:46 AM
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He just gets dumber and dumber.

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Comment #8 by Wallbanger
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:11:43 AM
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I'm all for a firefly game.... So long as it doesn't turn out like the Farscape game :-(

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Comment #9 by iBuzz7S
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:16:22 AM
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@7 - how so? The man is interacting with the audience, being HONEST, unlike many developers/publishers who lie to the audience.

A lot of people dislike him. What for? Because Gears of War wasn't what YOU wanted it to be? It's hard to impress 1 person, let alone millions.

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Comment #10 by Opiate42
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:16:42 AM
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Bulletstorm with PvP?


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Comment #11 by Crims0nPenguin
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:17:32 AM
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If it had MP the game would have been just another generic shooter on the market with a few gimmicks attached... Co-op was the right way to go...

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Comment #12 by Slayinfool
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:18:58 AM
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I got tons of hours from Bulletstorm just the way it was... Enjoyed the game.

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Comment #13 by marcman95
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:21:15 AM
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i wouldnt have minded 2 player campaign were 1 is grayson and the other sushi dick

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Comment #14 by UltimateAuron32
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:27:07 AM
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NO!! no more freaking multiplayer just for the sake of it!! i loved it the way it was, solo was great, echoes added more to that, and the multiplayer part worked fine the way it was.

what next, an Final Fantasy or Star Ocean with MP tacked on? no fucking thank you, if want that i'll pay per month for it, leave it alone, not everyone likes tacked on MP...

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Comment #15 by MFCH 37
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:29:31 AM
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IMO, the sign of a great game is one that, upon finale, makes you wish the campaign was longer. That is the only thing that I wish was different with Bulletstorm. The weapons would have been cool for PvP MP, but there's really no way to implement the kill-with-skill feature that made the main game so much fun. This game was perfect for wave-based MP.

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Comment #16 by DecadentBeaver
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:31:20 AM
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Bulletstorm with VS? Not a chance that would have stood out. Co op perhaps. The language and use of it also had me laughing. I'll never forget Waggleton P. Tallylicker. He was great.

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Comment #17 by shinyshirthero
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:33:19 AM
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News flash: Not every game needs tacked on multiplayer. Quite often people will avoid games just because they have multiplayer. I would rather play a decent single player game and pay for it ar full price than a game that has shoe horned in multiplayer because some exec/dev thinks it needs it to appeal to key demographic. If devs and platform holders aren't extremely careful they are going to lose the one thing they need to survive. The hardcore.

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Comment #18 by Chuppernicus
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:36:48 AM
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Coop yes, pvp not so much. But only because I can't see how it could work, BUT that doesnt mean it COULDn't work.

Firefly? Yes please, again not sure what that would look like but it woud be a day one buy for sure.

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Comment #19 by DarkEvolution90
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:38:44 AM
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The Dude abides

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Comment #20 by bearmod
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:50:16 AM
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I'm actually really glad they didn't put traditional MP in the game. The campaign was solid, the kill with skill system was really fun to play around with and the Echo mode was a blast in co-op. Hopefully if they make a sequel they'll keep it the same.

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Comment #21 by roza
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:21:12 AM
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Please no Big Lebowski game.
Roman pissed me off asking to go bowling. I don't wanna drive Walter off a cliff too!

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Comment #22 by PRxBeasT
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:39:11 AM
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I think that's the smartest thing Cliffy B. has ever said. I really am sick of people always crying about multiplayer in a game. If you think that bioshock was a single player only game then fine, I agree but I actually enjoyed the broken, laggy MP in bioshock2. I think competitive mp in bulletstorm would have been brilliant. That is my opinion. Other ppl say otherwise and im totally fine by that. I respect your opinion but don't cry about it and say mp "DOES NOT BELONG IN THIS GAME". Why not say YOU wouldn't like mp in the game? You would seem less like a dick. That would be like me saying hey, im a multiplayer only guy and i think this game would suck with single player. Please devs do NOT add SP since it dies not belong in games like this....just sayin....

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Comment #23 by ThousandLegs01
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:45:57 AM
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how about we just get bulletstorm 2 thats actually like 1 except with a couple more kill with skills and maybe 1-2 more guns insted of copying what every other guy does =/

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Comment #24 by Michaelsully
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:50:00 AM
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You want a Big Lebowski game? That's just like, your opinion, man.

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Comment #25 by WEBHEAD 7
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 11:57:55 AM
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how would they make make getting leashed into the air by another player work? bad idea imo. campaign co-op would have been awesome though

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Comment #26 by PRxBeasT
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:04:26 PM
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No..if it had mp people would actually still be playing it now. You could say all you want and cry boo hoo not anotherrr mp gammmme wahhh wahhh. A good amount of pple prefer the game without mp some ppl do. But its obvious there weren't enough ppl to exceed sales and maybe the game having mp would have met their goals. I for one would be all over mp right now but instead its jus collecting dust.

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Comment #27 by darkboy1200
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:14:15 PM
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I think it would've been nice to have some deathmatch in there. Nothing special, but it's fun to just frag buddies in any type of game and this wouldn't have been an exception. I'd love if Cliffy got a Big Lebowski game going. That would totally make for a great Monkey Island style adventure game. He should make an XBLA game around the dog though. That'd make for another good adventure game, but more like Zelda in that case.

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Comment #28 by TRAGICTRIXIE
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:17:13 PM
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An adventure about a lost dog finding his way home? Add some aliens and zombies to the mix while on his adventure and you got yourself a deal!

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Comment #29 by Andreas_loel
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:33:14 PM
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People that bitch about added content can stick to trials and demos

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Comment #30 by rng cougar
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:42:21 PM
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A firefly game? Cool! Will it come with locked content on the disk that you will immediately announce as DLC to be released 1 month after launch that way when people buy the locked content uhhh I mean DLC they will have paid over double the original sale price in order to have all the content that they already paid for?.....

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Comment #31 by ThePumpkinKing
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:47:32 PM
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@7 I think you meant "richer and richer." I don't care how stupid you think he is. He knows how to make money. And despite what anyone thinks of him, he knows how the industry works. And he knows exactly how to take advantage of that.

On topic. Bulletstorm didn't need competetive multiplayer. It would have sold better. But it did not, and does not need CMP. A firefly game would be amazing. Sign me up! But Big Lebowski? Not so much. Love the fucking movie. But it just wouldn't work as a game.

And seriously. Put the right spin on the lost dog idea. And it would work. But a game like that would definitely be better suited to a studio like Double Fine.

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Comment #32 by PRxBeasT
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 12:52:50 PM
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Exactly #29, i get sick of ppl always complaining about extras. Ppl say mp takes away from the single player experience but i think its just an excuse for ppl that suck or don't like mp. Bioshock 2 was not as good as the first one but i enjoyed it and i don't feel that adding the mp took away from the experience. On the bright side i think extra game modes are great for when you are done with the game and have nothing else to do but let it collect dust.

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Comment #33 by Lee71
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 01:03:58 PM
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Please don't Douche Huge get the rights to Firefly.

Firefly as a roid-raged, twitch shooter? HELL NO!Epic had a good idea with gears and they whored it into the ground. Faggy B's talents would be better suited with someone else making the decisions and he just pitching them.

Let Joss, like Peter Jackson, make the Firefly game. Team up with Bethesda and make it an open world, action RPG.

Let Epic make game engines, not more sh*tty games. Yeah, I said it...

come at me.

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Comment #34 by Nevander
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 01:08:34 PM
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Comment #35 by DreddPirate Rob
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 02:04:01 PM
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He'd only ruin the firefly franchise with treetrunk legs on everyone.

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Comment #36 by asilent boom
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 02:04:40 PM
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The game would have better with a MP mode in it imo. Remember people, if you don't like MP, you don't have to play it, even if they put MP achievements in it.

@17 You're assuming the hardcore doesn't like MP. That's the opposite with me. I won't buy a game without MP, unless it's something like Skyrim that I can still get a lot of play time out of.

@32 Exactly. Also, on the Bioshock 2 MP, 2K Games had an entirely seperate development studio working on the MP and another development studio doing the SP. It didn't take any resources away from the single player campaign. It wasn't as good as the first Bioshock because it wasn't made by the same development team as the 1st game and we had visited Rapture before.

This sites full of MP haters, if a game has a MP mode and they don't think it should, they will call it "tacked on" even though it wasn't. Most of the people on here put more value into achievements and base their purchase on that than the actual content in the game. It never enters their mind that other people will be playing the game and could actually enjoy MP.

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Comment #37 by Riphade 1
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 02:05:16 PM
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I would (somehow) love a FireFly game, but not done by that man. He'll mess it up just like Gears 3.

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Comment #38 by Ghosty McGoo
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 02:11:31 PM
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@33 I'm completely lost on the animosity for cliffy B, it seems like everyone just hopped on the band waggon and started hating him, because I'll tell you what, he's an angel compared to EA and Activision. Honesty, it's like this guy could say Valve is the best game developer on earth and everyone here would just form and angry mob and write stupid ass comments like yours.

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Comment #39 by Lord Montymort
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 02:19:37 PM
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I still miss Waggleton P. Tallylicker.

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Comment #40 by dementedlullaby
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 03:01:45 PM
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A Firefly game would be crazy good if done right.

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Comment #41 by Achillez14
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 03:30:39 PM
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I've been saying it for years now and it still seems to fit....I've been saying for a while now that Cliffy B is basically the videogame version of Zach Snyder.Both guys give their honest opinions on both their own projects AND others.U never see either guy coming out and bashing all the competitors left n right....AND both guys honestly just put out things that they find cool and think us fans would find cool.

Think of Cliffy B:unreal tournament franchise.A high speed 1st person shooter with all kinds of creative weapons that DON'T exist in real life.all out 1st person action./gears of war franchise.a game that pits u in the boots of hardcore marines that are fighting a losing war against an army of monsters.AND it's 3rd person.

Think of Zach Snyder:300.A sword n sandals flick based around spartan warriors ahem fighting a losing battle against an army SEEN as monsters./watchmen.a movie about realistic(save for one) heroes who have realistic issues in an alternate version of the world./suckerpunch.a movie about a girl who gets sent to a psyche ward and copes by imagining that she's a legendary hero in an alternate reality.

on paper does any of that sound boring??? hell no....Snyder directing a gears of war movie would be a dream.he's perfect for that kind of task.

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Comment #42 by Achillez14
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 03:32:43 PM
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Comment #43 by mjc0961
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 04:14:53 PM
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@9: CliffyB actually is pretty dumb sometimes. Like when he said on-disc DLC was a necessary evil (no it isn't, you could all just stop being greedy motherfuckers). And right now, when he said Bulletstorm needed a VS mode. It didn't need a VS mode, it needed to not fucking suck the dicktits it became known for.

Yes, he actually cares about the industry, and yes, he has the balls to admit his own mistakes unlike other douchebags in this industry like Warren Spector (someone PLEASE break that useless cunt's jaw so he can't talk anymore!). But that doesn't mean he gets let off the hook when he says something incredibly dumb.

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Comment #44 by Jaws as Crowns
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 04:38:29 PM
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So what I still don't get is why so many people hate bulletstorm. Can anyone tell me?

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Comment #45 by Riphade 1
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 04:43:27 PM
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@41. Um, what? Everything you said was unnecessary. Also, Zack Snyder doesn't get shit for everything he does. What crack are you on? He never got crap for 300, Watchman (which was well liked, I didn't though), Sin City, Dawn of the Dead, and Man of Steel. He's probably only gotten shit for Sucker Punch. And don't compare the two. Cause the way you compare them could go for anyone. Like CliffyB and Lebron James. Both get crap, and both speak out. Snyder has good ideas, and makes good things of it. Cliffy has decent to good ideas, and half ass puts them together. Lastly, he never admits his mistakes until months to years later, when he's being televised. Just look at the G4TV E3 coverage on Gears 3. THAT'S when he finally admitted to his Gears 2 "mistakes".

Either way. Cliffy is a douche.

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Comment #46 by Riphade 1
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 04:45:44 PM
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(Sorry, didn't mean Sin City)

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Comment #47 by atomic viking54
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 05:43:14 PM
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this is from a reddit AMA. so, nothing he said is actually serious

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Comment #48 by Destro
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 06:03:08 PM
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At least he admit GOW2 was an epic failure upon release(MP speaking)... and there so much you can fixe when the product is totally garbage...

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Comment #49 by Riphade 1
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 06:30:04 PM
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@48. Yes, multiplayer wise, GoW2 was a complete failure. They did make it somewhat better with one of the TU's, but then screwed it all up again. This is what happens when you cater to newbies.

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Comment #50 by ufc fan andy
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 07:38:49 PM
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Maybe it sold fairly well because there was no multiplayer versus! I think that was a reason i did buy it but still didn't like it enough to finish it.

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Comment #51 by Social Cancer
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:37:55 PM
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the big lebowski game was obviously a joke

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Comment #52 by Rastaman20
Monday, September 17, 2012 @ 10:50:44 PM
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....this dude abides lol

firefly? isint that the scifi western TV show that was the start to the movie Serenity? ive been saying that needs to be a video game since i first seen that show/movie lol do it cliff DO IT!!!!

also i loved BULLETSTORM i felt it a great releif from every other fucking shooter on the market, also the kill system was spot on cuz anyone can aim a gun and kill sumthin it takes true skill to learn how to rack up the biggest score possible with 1 bullet/round for what ever gun your using.

i also felt the story was funny as hell for Bulletstorm lol Cliff you need to get off your ass and get working on BULLETSTORM 2: Ishii Returns, cuz we all know hes not dead neither is that analsucker commander, I DEMAND TO RIP HIS HEAD OFF AND SHOVE IT UP HIS OWN ASS DAMMIT!

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Comment #53 by WEBHEAD 7
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 12:19:36 AM
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anarchy mode is awesome, and it's the only form of mp that would work in a game like this; a wave based "horde" mode that lets you play with an online team against cp enemies. you'd think it would be a favorite of both mp lovers and haters. fans of mp should love it cuz even though you aren't facing off against live players, the cooperative techniques needed to progress through the higher waves are fun and challenging. and mp haters should love it cuz they can do it solo if they want, and when they get slaughtered they don't have to feel like they're being persecuted by an actual person. like i said before, vs wouldn't work because how are you supposed to defend against being flung into the air, lit on fire, and then being kicked into a cactus. what a fun game, though

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Comment #54 by Damodar Thade
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 02:23:47 AM
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No to more MP and never ever let this guy or anyone like him near firefly or the dude, but i would play a firefly game by Obsidian.

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Comment #55 by francisrossi
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 11:23:13 AM
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Adding PvP to this would have made little difference. Unless they pulled off a miracle, the servers would have been dead within a few weeks, with everyone off back to Gears, Halo, CoD or BF.

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Comment #56 by Achillez14
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 12:47:40 PM
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@45....he DID get shit for watchmen and suckerpunch....and last I checked man of steel hasn't come out yet....300 was his only movie since he's gone with his visionary style that was well received.tho I personally loved it....go ask any hardcore watchmen fan if they liked the movie n see what they some actual research b4 u comment.

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Comment #57 by ViNyLek
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 02:59:51 PM
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If I ever saw him, I would kick him in the ass for the farse that gears and 3 were. But then I would kiss him for coming up with Unreal 1,2 and Tournament 1999.

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Comment #58 by Sgt Shadie
Tuesday, September 18, 2012 @ 03:40:27 PM
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I wanna play as that dog... i'd give it Homeward Bound style awesomeness :D

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