Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Black Ops II Prestige is Not a Start-Over System
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Treyarch design director David Vonderhaar has revealed some more info on Call of Duty: Black Ops II’s prestige system.

As we already know, there are 55 levels in the main progression and 10 levels of prestige. And as ever, when you prestige In Black Ops II you will have the option to start all over again from level one.

However, unlike previous COD games, when you prestige in Black Ops II you will not lose all of your progress. So for example, weapon experience will be constant. When you unlock a weapon again it will remember your progress.

On stage at the Eurogamer Expo in London today, Vonderhaar joked about the previous prestige system by saying, “Prestige. Prestige! Congratulations. Here's a new icon. Repeat the entire game. What? What?”

Vonderhaar then went on to describe the new system and the reasoning behind it.

"I've been thinking about it non-stop, about how to get people to prestige,” he said. “We kept going about it the wrong way. We kept saying, here are some more rewards if you do it. Here is this extra stuff if you decide to hit the prestige button.

"Then I looked at a graph of the people who play and what happens to them when they hit level 55 or whatever the max level is, and how they drop off, and how few people actually go to max prestige. I know they could go to max prestige because their time play suggests they could have. I have this data. I know this for a fact.

"They just stopped levelling. Maybe it's because we keep taking away everything. Maybe. Maybe that's the reason."

"In Black Ops 2 prestige is not a start over system," he continued. "When you prestige in Black Ops I will not reset your weapon levelling. If you are level four on a gun you will still be level four when you cycle back around to that gun. Same with all your cosmetics, any camo you've unlocked or emblem, all the personalisation, all the fancy backgrounds you managed to achieve, all of that will still be there."


Vonderhaar concluded by saying, "In this case I feel damned if we don't try something new to get you to prestige. Prestige already! Please, you can do it! Look at the cool icons you get." In Blops II each prestige level has a shiny new icon.

"When you finish up the prestige you become the prestige master."

Hungry for more? Here's 5 Things You Should Know About Call of Duty: Black Ops II Multiplayer. The game's out on November 13th.


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Comment #1 by snipingheadshot
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:42:22 PM
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This is what I've wanted for a long time.

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Comment #2 by TotalBlank
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:45:28 PM
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This is probably one of the best bits of news for a CoD game in a long time, though I refuse to play any more CoD games after having to go through the disastrous MW3 experience. I know MW3 and BOps are not the same company but the games a virtually identical in almost every way.

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Comment #3 by daardu
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:47:43 PM
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This is revolutionary! Right on!

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Comment #5 by stianpuz
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:49:31 PM
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@2 meh ive hated both mw2 and 3, but actually loved black ops

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Comment #6 by Pr0ph3cy
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:50:13 PM
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@#2 yet Treyark always finds a way to make the game fresh and fun as well as balanced.

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Comment #7 by Californigus
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:50:48 PM
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Nice move.

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Comment #8 by Zero fox fk
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:53:34 PM
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I wasn't gonna prestige but they've made an Achievement around it so now I have to... but I'm only gonna do it the once!

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Comment #9 by Xxnativesjc23xX
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:53:35 PM
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Finally...About time!!!!!

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Comment #11 by xGallade
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:56:58 PM
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I can't wait to purchase Call of Duty 9 on release day. (Black Ops II) -_-

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Comment #12 by kaiyo penguin
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:58:33 PM
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@4 please fuck off you sad excuse of a human being....
OT: never really played a cod enough to worry about prestige but this one really has me intrigued.

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Comment #13 by Achillez14
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:59:58 PM
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looks like they took the best thing from mw3 and made it their own...I was never big on prestige bc of what it did.but in mw3 I didn't mind bc they had the prestige tokens so I could just buy whatever I wanted from the start....good move by treyarch.

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Comment #14 by ZLU CORONA
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 12:59:59 PM
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Halo got a better matchmaking/level up system...but i must say they finally arrive in 2012!

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Comment #16 by ViNyLek
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 01:02:04 PM
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I always hit level cap without presiting, because of that, so I would say they finally nailed. Might be that I will actually for the first time ever when I get my hands on this game=)

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Comment #19 by Andreas_loel
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 01:09:35 PM
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Oh look another Treyarch title making something a bit more faster and easier...

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Comment #20 by bLaKgRaVy
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 01:10:04 PM
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So you really do start over at level 1, which is what Vonderhaar failed to specifically say, but any unlocks retain their levels that you unlocked previously before you prestiged when you get to that level to unlock them again. So, for example, if the G36C is unlocked at level 20, and I leveled that weapon up to say level 4, it's still locked until I reach level 20, but when I do, it keeps anything I previously unlocked for it. That's how I understand it.

It's okay, but Vonderhaar failed to tell us the *complete* specifics on prestiging. Still not gonna want me to prestige more than once (to get the achievement) despite what he thinks we as gamers will do.

Will this make you prestige more than once?

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Comment #21 by FatalFlaw810
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 01:23:19 PM
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@12: You have issues dude...just calm down and take a deep breath. If that's all it takes for you to put down another fellow human being I really worry about your mental state. Maybe you're just having a bad day?

In either case, from what I gathered from this article it's still going to take away the weapons when you prestige, you will just retain the stats, camo, etc. for them. Which is where the tokens come into play to unlock them earlier. I could be wrong but seems like a hybrid of MW3's coin system but retaining the stats and camo. I'm more interested in league play and if it actually works out well, I can see it being exploited though.

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Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 01:32:01 PM
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AOS TRUCK seems to be a troll on a whole new level.

A "prestige" troll.

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Comment #23 by silentbob0
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:03:10 PM
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Glad they are doing this but why are there only 10 prestiges? BO1 had 15 and it was quick to level up in that game. I can see people hitting 10th prestige really quickly in this game.

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Comment #25 by asphyxiate
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:26:09 PM
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Can the mods not do an IP ban? That piece of shit AOS TRUCK has been banned
at least 3 or 4 times now and just keeps coming back with a slightly
different account name. As much as I love this site, the comments section
has become an abomination rivaling even youtube. The combination of entitled
little whiners and outright trolls removes any chance of having an intelligent
discussion or god forbid, a reasonable debate. I feel ashamed to be a member
of the gaming community with all the brainless vitriol being slung around.
Are people no longer capable of disagreeing with one another without
regressing into some sort of sub-human scum?

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Comment #26 by TH3 XB0X G3N1U5
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:29:38 PM
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Lol, this site is terrible. They still can't fix it when comments run off the screen like this.

You site mods are idiots.

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Comment #27 by RDWatson16
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:30:48 PM
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am i the only person who gets call of duty for campaign and spec ops only

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Comment #28 by TH3 XB0X G3N1U5
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:31:41 PM
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Seriously now, this site is aweful. I have to manually track my achievements? TA does it all automatically.

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Comment #29 by Tim 13
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 02:58:15 PM
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26,28: Stay on topic, asshole. Yes, the guy is annoying. They'll remove those comments as soon as they see them. If you think you're so smart, make a site that does it all better. Otherwise, get in line and shut the fuck up.

OT: I'm ornery because this news itself pisses me off. I am beyond sick of Treyarch trying to take something that they had NO hand in creating, and trying to make it better without knowing its purpose in the first place. The original point of prestige mode was "You want to prestige? Fuck you, lose everything first." It's not about making as many people as possible prestige, it's about separating those with honor (or the XBL equivalent of honor) from the people who aren't willing to give up everything they have to prestige one more time. There isn't supposed to be an incentive, there isn't supposed to be anything to gain except PRESTIGE.

Prestiging in Black Ops is going to feel like being a kid going to the doctor's office, because after you get that booster shot, these morons are going to hand you a lollipop. Fuck off. I'm happy not being rewarded for my hard work, because the reward is in the completion of that hard work. Like reality.

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Comment #30 by TH3 XB0X G3N1U5
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 03:14:55 PM
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@29: Can't they change it so this does not happen in the first place? Seems like lazy programming to me. And no, I'm no expert at this stuff, but with the amount of times this happens, I'm surprised that they haven't put preventative measures in place.

OT: Nice change to the prestige system. Played all the Cods since WAW, and only ever prestiged once, and that was in WAW for the achievement. Guess I'll do it at least once again for the achievement in this game too.

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Comment #31 by asilent boom
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 03:52:57 PM
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@25 Totally agree with that, I used to recommend this site to other gamers all the time. I don't anymore.

@29 There's really no need to be a dick to people. It shouldn't take 2-3 days or more for the mods to remove his comments, the people running this site have dropped the ball on the comments and other things as well and should be called out on it. I've been coming to this site for 5 years, and over the last year this site has really went downhill.

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Comment #32 by xxthegodofwarx
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 03:58:46 PM
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as long as this game does not suck bad like mw3 ill play this shit outta it

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Comment #33 by creaper210
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 04:52:04 PM
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Oh, look. He notices people don't like prestiging, so instead of giving us an incentive, he locks things so that we have no choice but to prestige. Sorry, but that's even worse.

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Comment #34 by COMMANDO626
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 04:57:57 PM
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@17 Nice Job Ass Wipe.

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Comment #35 by TheSipuli91
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 05:21:47 PM
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Funny, I kept hearing the reason people don't prestige is because it offers NOTHING. An icon, maybe a title and an emblem and that's all. Not really worth it unless you just like to max stuff...

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Comment #36 by Metaphorically
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 05:39:13 PM
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Treyarch is much more innovative.

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Comment #38 by Cinderkin
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 06:04:58 PM
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The comments section exploded with troll juice everywhere.

OT: This sounds good. I've never prestiged because I hated the thought of starting over.

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Comment #40 by XxJoaoPauloBRxX
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 07:30:03 PM
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What the fuck? This guy seems to have a lack of pussy

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Comment #41 by Rastaman20
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 07:51:48 PM
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lmao that guy should pull that article and just say " were trying to find a way to maximize the amount of money you CoD nerds give us and waste your life on a game that gives you nothing in return "

seriously? thats the big change? my weapon progress carries over? LAME

heres an idea you lameass, people who prestige get Priority on level choosing as well as exclusive camos and attachments.

there you go ive revolutionized CoD lol

im not buying this CoD MW3 was the last shit heap to get my money lol id rather buy spiderman then CoD xP

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Comment #42 by CHiLLiONS
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 10:07:15 PM
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I think x360a needs to hire somebody who will do something damn you guys are lazy fix the shit for goodness sake! I could code a better site in notepad with word wrap off while I'm drunk and listening to my bird squawk simultaneously with my neighbors fighting loud enough for me to hear them over top of two 21 inch speakers and I can't understand what you guys must possibly be fumbling with over there

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Comment #43 by Tim 13
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 10:15:36 PM
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31: So, I'm the dick, even though I made a post on the actual topic, as opposed to telling the site mods that they're retarded and that a different site is better than theirs? Save that shit for an e-mail. You're not cool for calling out the mods in public.

By the way, this article was posted TODAY, so they haven't yet taken two to three days to correct the problem. But, they probably will, since it's now the weekend.

I've been coming to this site for a very long time, too. And whenever someone stretches out the borders, the comment is pretty quickly removed. It's taking longer than usual, but like I said, it's the weekend now. Maybe it'll take until Monday, and if it does, then you can't really fault them on that.

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Comment #44 by Qofi
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 10:34:42 PM
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Kind of can. Really, some features such as an IP ban and/or page formatting that doesn't break is rather called for. Or employing some more people just as moderators on comments.
Calling the mods idiots isn't helping, but respectfully asking them to update is.

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Comment #45 by Nevander
Friday, September 28, 2012 @ 11:23:43 PM
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This page has been raped by words.

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Comment #46 by TH3 XB0X G3N1U5
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 12:55:33 AM
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This page has been like this since before I left for work, a full 9 hours ago.

This site has such a shitty team of mods, who cant even fix this shit. Tells you that they really care about their site.

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Comment #47 by CarDMaST3r2000
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 07:37:43 AM
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@27 No I do as well I generally don t play cod MP unless im really bored with everything else, thats going to change with Black ops 2 but only for the achievements. I generally get cod for SP and Battlefield for MP.

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Comment #48 by CarDMaST3r2000
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 07:37:43 AM
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@27 No I do as well I generally don t play cod MP unless im really bored with everything else, thats going to change with Black ops 2 but only for the achievements. I generally get cod for SP and Battlefield for MP.

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Comment #49 by CarDMaST3r2000
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 07:39:11 AM
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Sorry for the double post...ER triple post now. not sure why it did that.

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Comment #50 by Social Cancer
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 07:47:34 AM
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I want to say i boycott cod because of the Elite service, but i think i do because i just dont like the game. black ops and mw3 just didnt keep my attention span online for more than 1 match, i wasnt even bad, positive K/D. same happened to me with halo reach. didnt like the power ups

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Comment #51 by cheevo360
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 08:07:30 AM
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What a hell and what a fuck is this troll using copy and paste comments for fill of page and no reasons???

Leave here if you bored. troll. Don't come back here and use this stuffs in with full of trolls over there so go there instead of here.

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Comment #52 by Hurricane Of 87
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 08:44:58 AM
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@50: Says more about your attention span than the quality of game.

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Comment #53 by scardro
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 10:24:14 AM
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Cod black ops 1 and 2 and Call of Duty 3 are the most balanced ones Modern Warfare is trash in comparison

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Comment #54 by Dasha UK
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 11:11:10 AM
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Someone's mum didn't hug them enough...

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Comment #55 by PMS Green1Chaos
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 05:10:41 PM
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I just hope that their is a system to identify those who are prestiging to cheat v those who earned the prestige mode.

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Comment #56 by asilent boom
Saturday, September 29, 2012 @ 05:15:50 PM
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@43 You're right, my bad, the person needs to be called an "asshole" and told to "get in line and shut the fuck up" because he was a dick first and called the mods "idiots". That's exactly how people who are behaving like dicks and calling people idiots should be treated, we'll be a bigger dick to them. This sites community is so great.

As for the weekends, is it really that hard for a mod to find a couple minutes and do a quick scroll through the news comments that are on the front page of the site? Is there only 1 mod here?

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Comment #57 by xSavage Henry
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 03:00:21 AM
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Treyarch FTW. I love how they can actually THINK of new ideas. Instead of putting the exact same buildings and lay outs in their games. I really hope sledgehammer or IW or whatever they are now doesnt try to copy off all the progress they make and ruin COD again after this one.

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Comment #58 by Sanchezz4387
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 05:11:47 AM
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Aos Truck is probably the saddest wanker I've ever seen on any Internet forum and that is some honor.

 His life clearly revolves around signing up to forums and looking for attention like a silly little 2 year old, difference being, a 2 year old is more mature and has more of a life

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Comment #59 by linogatinho1977
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 06:54:40 AM
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this is excellent knews, by the time i reached prestige 10 in MW3 i stopped prestiging so that i could get gold for all the guns.

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Comment #60 by Ereaser NL
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 10:43:32 AM
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@6 Treyarch and balanced? Clearly u never played team objective on that rocket launch site in Black Ops...

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Comment #61 by TeAmExTrEmE737
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 03:10:52 PM
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Will this be a good COD game, since COD4. Hope SO!

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Comment #62 by DDisit
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 03:58:45 PM
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Finally I can continue with a gun without doing it over agian and again and.....

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Comment #63 by armylifer94
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 04:47:31 PM
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I've siad it before and I'll say it again, the first Black ops had the best MP since COD 4. I hope this game delivers all the promises and more.

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Comment #64 by The Produca
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 09:37:05 PM
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Maybe there is so much hate about this game for a reason?

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Comment #65 by Rodni Demental
Sunday, September 30, 2012 @ 11:38:53 PM
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Why does he want us to Prestige so badly?

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Comment #66 by Ostrodamus
Monday, October 01, 2012 @ 02:43:45 AM
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It's about time they did this.

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Comment #67 by wickedclowns95
Monday, October 01, 2012 @ 11:48:31 AM
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This is long past due and hardly a revolutionary change to the game. I don't foresee this being the CoD that changes it up in the way that fans have been asking for the past five years.

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Comment #68 by STONE DEVIL
Monday, October 01, 2012 @ 12:44:01 PM
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LOL, too bad they couldn't figure out a way to make the game less boring.

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Comment #69 by Zeppelin 856
Thursday, October 04, 2012 @ 11:47:39 AM
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Couldn't of said it better myself!

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Comment #70 by surajtwo
Thursday, October 04, 2012 @ 10:12:13 PM
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I may actually choose to prestige now for the first time in all these years.

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