Call of Duty: Black Ops II
Connecticut Town Gathering and Destroying Violent Video Games
Written Thursday, January 03, 2013 By Richard Walker
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Following the events of last month's shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, a community group in the town of Southington, just over 30 miles from Newtown is gearing up to hold a drive in which it's hoped that violent video games and other violent media will be collected and subsequently destroyed.

Dubbed the 'Violent Video Games Return Program', the event has been arranged by community group SouthingtonSOS and is set to take place on January 12th. Trading in violent games, CDs and movies will grant gift certificates in exchange, rewarding people "as a token of appreciation for their action of responsible citizenship."

Offending games will be collected in a dumpster and then sent away "for appropriate permanent disposal." The group however claims that the drive is not a reaction to violent video games being a cause for the Newtown shooting. "The group's action is not intended to be construed as statement declaring that violent video games were the cause of the shocking violence in Newtown on December 14th," a statement from SouthingtonSOS notes.

"Rather, SouthingtonSOS is saying is that there is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying. Social and political commentators, as well as elected officials including the president, are attributing violent crime to many factors including inadequate gun control laws, a culture of violence and a recreational culture of violence."

Southington School superintendent and member of SouthingtonSOS, Joe Erardi, told Polygon that the collection is intended to open up dialogue between parents and children. Presumably said dialogue involves the child begging their parents not to get rid of their copy of Call of Duty: Black Ops II...

"There are youngsters who appear to be consumed with violent video games," said Erardi. "I'm not certain if that's a good thing. If this encourages one courageous conversation with a parent and their child, then it's a success. We're suggesting that for parents who have a child or children who play violent video games, to first of all view the games. We're asking parents to better understand what their child is doing. Have a conversation about next steps."

In light of last month's Newtown shooting, so-called 'violent video games' have once again become the target and scapegoat for politicians, pundits and parents, with Senator Jay Rockefeller introducing a bill that would involve government agencies looking into the effects of such material on children. The NRA meanwhile, blamed the shooting on "a callous, corrupt, and corrupting shadow industry that sells and sows violence against own people, through vicious violent video games."

Erm... Really?



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Comment #1 by TOM TiiT
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:13:47 PM
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Bloody God squad

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Comment #2 by PG_MaxPayne
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:14:07 PM
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*sigh* And yet they continue to go after the wrong cause of all this.

Have they thought to look at reforming the mental health care system in the US? No, let's just ban/shun/destroy violent video games because clearly they are the cause of all this...(/sarcasm)

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Comment #3 by TommyD758
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:15:22 PM
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Yet they're using violence to get rid of them.

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Comment #4 by Samigi
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:15:35 PM
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Blaming games again... they should blame parents who allow their kids to play call of duty...

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Comment #5 by Creasy47
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:15:37 PM
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People will be people. It doesn't matter the reason for insane, violent actions that some people take, video games and films will always be a frontrunner for an answer.

"Hey, let's shelter and ignore those with social issues, obvious problems, or mental disorders who most certainly need assistance, and then when they lash out and kill innocent people, blame it on, uhh...Grand Theft Auto or something. Yeah!"

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Comment #6 by LickableLemons7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:16:05 PM
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Might as well get rid of humans too, they're the ones who created the media.

Violent motherfuckers.

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Comment #7 by Mandalorian831
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:17:07 PM
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Maybe you should look at the parents who are buying these violent video games for there children? But no its a lot easier to use the video game scapegoat and always will be.

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Comment #8 by HugTheBear
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:17:24 PM
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Blame the video games and guns... Not the crazy asshole that did it... Makes sense.

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Comment #9 by DRNoob
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:17:44 PM
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Oh my God... Why don't these people first find out what exactly their children our doing before scapegoating video games!? Video games are not weapons. They are a form of entertainment!

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Comment #10 by Cirative
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:18:58 PM
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Destroying "violent media"? Hope they toss some Bibles in there, considering it's one of the oldest, most violent pieces of media in existence. Such a blatant cop-out, yet again, for something that can be so easily explained and dealt with.

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Comment #11 by EmporerDragon
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:19:35 PM
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This would be a good way to get rid of all those copies of Duke Nukem Forever floating around.

Hell, one could probably even make a profit off of that.

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Comment #12 by SmarmySmurf
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:22:12 PM
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Local gamers should hold a counter protest. It would be called "Grab what you can and run" initiative, and the purpose would be to save as many games as they can before destruction. Trade the games in for cash (after playing them, obviously) and donate the money to an actual cause, and turn this stupidity into something that actually does some good.

Screw it, too much effort... *goes back to playing murder sims*

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Comment #13 by bigbear2face
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:23:16 PM
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Lets burn some books while we are at it.

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Comment #14 by LiLJonJon94
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:23:47 PM
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There may be ample evidence for correlation of violent media to violence, but there is also ample evidence that parents let their 8-year old kids play gears of war. By letting their kids watch violent rated r movies, play video-games meant for teenagers and adults, they are allowing their households to become a potential breeding ground for violence. Thats Home-Grown terrorism, America. Theres no reason to destroy violent video games. Its up to parents to decide what is right for their own children.

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Comment #15 by fodbod
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:23:57 PM
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I agree games should be banned they are the cause of all evil things on earth give me thumbs down if you agree

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Comment #16 by XxStuartxX 1990
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:26:35 PM
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Sure blame the media, rather than people not taking the responsibility and policing the media when it comes to children.

I honestly feel that its because of the current generation of parents, been of the frame of mind that video games are only games, so whats the worst it can be?

That said violence for the sake if violence in video games needs to stop IMO.

Also they need to make it illegal to own older rating games, and buy them for underage people like, alcohol and cigarettes, I know that kind of thing is difficult to enforce, but it puts it into the parents mind that it is wrong.

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Comment #17 by ModernSith2010
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:27:08 PM
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I've watched violent films since a young age and played violent games but I never went and killed a whole load of people at my school or college, why because my parents taught me the difference between reality and virtual reality, and what is right and wrong, whats socially acceptable and not socially acceptable.

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Comment #18 by XxStuartxX 1990
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:27:44 PM
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The generation of pass the book, strikes again...

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Comment #19 by LickableLemons7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:29:02 PM
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WAIT A SECOND! They specified, "GAMES, MOVIES, and CDs", not violent BOOKS!

Are they trying to promote books? COME ON! There's violent books out there too! Catch 22 is notable for desensitization of violence through satire. Lord of the Flies is self explanatory to those who read it. What about racism presented in To Kill A Mockingbird? Catcher in the Rye inspired that one dickbag to kill John Lennon!


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Comment #20 by BUZZARDIO 1080
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:29:14 PM
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Whilst I don't agree with them, you can't blame these citizens for doing this, their kin have suffered the very worse of humanity.

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Comment #21 by Cirative
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:29:20 PM
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@#14 Actually there is no correlation. Japan has some of the most violent, sexist media in the world, and yet they have some of the lowest crime rates. Video games causing violent behavior is just a figment of our society's imagination, similar to how rock & roll was "the Devil's music" in the '50s-'80s.

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Comment #22 by bearmod
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:32:01 PM
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God I fucking hate these people. The people that do shit like go and shoot up a school or a movie theater have a lot deeper problems then playing violent video games. Every time a shooting like this happens the parents get all up in arms about it (no pun intended) and then find a copy of GTA or something and go "Well there's your problem, its not that he had a mental breakdown or severe emotional problems, he played GTA and that's why he killed all those people." And maybe if those parents would stop using video games to babysit their kids we wouldn't have to hear about this kind of stuff. And if they're gonna start doing this to video games they better take a hard look at everything their kids are exposed to cause video games should be the least of their worries.

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Comment #23 by Capn Doug
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:33:55 PM
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I love it how some Americans feel that the real problem with the Second Ammendment is the First Ammendment.

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Comment #24 by RDrules
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:35:06 PM
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errm... yeah... destroy the video games because thats what all the kids were shot with.

should be destroying guns, if you allow guns legally in a country things like this will happen whether theres video games, movies, books, music... whatever around

the evidence for that is true and proven where evidence that violent media causes it is circumstantial bullshit, there is no correlation between violence in media and actual violence because everybody these days indulges in some form of violent media if it actually made us violent we would all be killing each other

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Comment #25 by Roberoo
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:35:15 PM
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People want to destroy a form of media that doesn't agree with their own viewpoint? Wasn't there a group of violent nutters in a certain European country that did that sometime around the 1930s?

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Comment #26 by Deadly Krueger
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:35:34 PM
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Really, people wouldn't have to be getting rid of Call of Duty from their children if they knew what they were buying.

This is just ridiculous. Whoever started this dumb thing needs to be pushed into the fire.

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Comment #27 by I X I Shock I
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:37:14 PM
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I for one have been playing violent games since I was 9, and never once have I acted out violently or thought 'maybe this would be fun to do in real life!' The problem isn't the games, it's the parents who allow kids to play them without informing them that a game is a game, nothing more nothing less. The acts depicted in them should not be replicated in real life. Simple logic.

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Comment #28 by Agent Mantis
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:37:30 PM
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And there I was thinking it was stupidly easy access to firearms

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Comment #29 by PANIC ATTACK 10
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:37:54 PM
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makes sense, europe is anti violence & pro sex. whereas north america is the opposite. movies like golden eye where done with robots instead of people. the world is becoming more violent & sex crimes are on the rise too.

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Comment #30 by Th3D00mV1ru5
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:39:17 PM
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Connecticut. Must. Be. Destroyed.

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Comment #31 by CUPAS125
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:40:08 PM
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Comment #32 by fightclubdoll
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:40:20 PM
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Are they shipping off their televisions and computers as well?
I volunteer to adopt one or two of them... along with those homeless games.

Meanwhile, they should consider measures that are not a total waste of time and money. This game disposal drive is as misguided as it is futile.

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Comment #33 by KPD7424
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:40:49 PM
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I dont watch the news much, but I dont recall hearing that this dude even played video games or had a collection of so-called violent games.... They like their witch hunts up in New England..

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Comment #34 by TSG Dwaggie
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:43:13 PM
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Well, before these bloody moronic God-botherers send it away... can I take a look in the skip please? I wouldn't mind getting a few Assassin's Creeds, a few Hitmen, a few CODs, a few EVERY FUCKING GAME IN EXISTANCE THAT ISN'T VIVA PINATA.

Ugh. Religion. These guys are morons.

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Comment #35 by TheBrute1997
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:44:50 PM
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Video games didn't exist in the 1940's, didn't stop the murders of millions of civilians. These people need to pull their heads out of there arse's and face that they're using excuses to cover up a mental illness, which the shooter had.

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Comment #36 by RDrules
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:46:03 PM
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@33 its a pretty safe bet that he will have because we all do, seriously can you think of a single person that doesnt won some form of media containing violence?

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Comment #37 by TheBrute1997
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:48:33 PM
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Carrying on from my last post, before the media what would cause murder, theft, rape and warfare? Fucked up fantasies from mentally ill persons. Using pathetic excuses such as blaming violent video games, music, etc. is a lazy solution to accepting a tragedy.

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Comment #38 by industrial
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:50:12 PM
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Coincidentally, I have just been reading some history. Have any of you ever heard of World War 1 or 2? Millions of people were killed. How about the Crusades? Roman gladiatorial combat? Amazingly, all this happened before video games were even invented! Imagine what would have happened if video games were around thousands of years ago.

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Comment #39 by Crimson Ridley
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:51:17 PM
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Might as well start burning women at the state for being witches again. Fucking morons.

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Comment #40 by ash356
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:51:55 PM
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Even the Bible has violence in it. I doubt they'd ever consider burning that, though.
People can't just be sick or weird F***s anymore, society has to try and turn them into victims of some form of media.

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Comment #41 by Crimson Ridley
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:52:21 PM
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That should have been "stake", but you know how it is when you type angrily...

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Comment #42 by Si Alpha
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:53:20 PM
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The news stories today just keep getting weirder and weirder. This is beyond a joke though. Can't we just burn the ignoranuses that conjure up these daft ideas? The world will be better off for it.

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Comment #43 by Yeffrey
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 01:53:22 PM
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Good to see that logic and common sense have prevailed instead of fear mongering and scape goating!

God bless that messed up country; they will need it.

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Comment #45 by industrial
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:01:26 PM
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And #43's point is proven.

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Comment #46 by smacd
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:01:33 PM
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Its not the games. Its not the guns. Its the fact that the mental health system of America was destroyed several decades ago. Instead of getting real help, these nutjobs are put on magic pills and left to do whatever they want.

The solution isn't to destroy games, or violate our 2nd amendment rights. We need a mental health registry, we need more realistic mental health facilities and laws, and we need to get the dangerous people off the streets and lessen their ability to harm others.

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Comment #47 by Crimson Ridley
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:01:43 PM
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@44 - It's unfortunate that people think that. I think it's because weird stuff that happens in America is more widely reported. A consequence for being one of the biggest and most observed countries. :(

I don't think it'll be long before this stuff starts happening in England. I live in a rather small, insignificant town that doesn't have a huge crime rate, and somebody was recently arrested for carrying firearm(s) and bullets. The world is a scary place, and it's because of the media, not because of America.

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Comment #48 by TacticalTodger
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:04:05 PM
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When will people realise this is not the video game's fault and that it's the actual person's HEALTH issues to begin with.

I've grown up playing video games since I was 4 playing "violent" games like GTA, man hunt etc, I'm sane I'm normal, I mean I admit when I was little I didn't quite understand why I was killing said person apart from the game told me to do so. But if you can't quite realise video games are for releasing stress doing whatever you want being free minded in a VIRTUAL game then fucking hell, it's game grow the fuck up, look at both quite big news based shootings last year the school + the cinema one. Both actually HAVE health issues. Could this be because they played video games? Sure it could of added to it but it would always be the person to begin with, with the problem.

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Comment #49 by Raging Bullgod
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:04:27 PM
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Comment #50 by ronnie42
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:04:54 PM
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Another mindless attempt at attacking our community? seriously wtf is with people just finding the nearest thing they can blame......... Before games got too violent aka fun there was 2 world wars which was because of their generation. Flipping hypocrites, I have never wanted to physically hurt anyone.

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Comment #51 by Hannibal king 88
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:07:33 PM
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@ 17 and 22 and 32 i agree with u 3 guys. I live a few states over. I swear of this shyt hits mass anyone who comes near my 360 games and says i have to get rid of them will eat threw a straw for the remander of there life. Fuckin morons its colibine all over again. Last time i checked thats why theres a m on the game. And wasnt he dude 20 sumthing so wtf does this have to do with kids playing games. Put to solve the lids issue , STOP BUYYING YOUR KIDS M GAMS YOU FUCKIN RETARDS.anyone wanna join me go to that place and grab them games cuz idk about u guys thats alot of trade in value at gamestop so that means cash for he new xbox and games for the next say 9 years. I hate stupid people. Is it really a church group cuz i really will drive up there and cause hell.

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Comment #52 by Doctor Mandrake
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:09:09 PM
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Because guns don't kill people; simulated guns kill people.

Gimme a fucking break.

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Comment #53 by Alec216
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:11:08 PM
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Violent games cause people to go on killing sprees? But I own loads of violent games!.... Must.kill.people... Oh wow look how right they were! Dickheads!

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Comment #54 by hibsta1992
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:12:57 PM
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When I was younger than the victims of the Newton shooting I wasn't watching Sesame Street or Blue's Clue's, I was watching Dirty Harry and Unforgiven, and I have as of yet never shot anybody

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Comment #55 by Dark Anaconda
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:14:27 PM
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"violent video games were the cause of the shocking violence in Newtown on December 14th,"

I live in germany and when it comes to school shooting, their always taking violent video games (EVERY fucking time) as the main reason for the behaviour of the student who started the school shooting.

The following post is related to the politicians:

I am sick and tired of these idiots and i can`t stop laughing at them. I mean instead of looking for the real reason of the school shooting their just sitting on their lazzy asses and looking for some quick answer. They are not even bothering to look for the real reason.

What about bullying in school? Their not even looking at those social aspects or they just don`t want to speak about that. Fucking idiots.

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Comment #56 by TEQUILA V1
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:16:32 PM
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couldnt agree more with the views expressed here, and its genuinely interesting to see the social commentary in what is normally a very topic oriented site.

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Comment #57 by Caramel Cardinal
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:16:57 PM
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games don't kill people, assault rifles which have one purpous to kill another human kill people, when will the ratards learn this and decide you know what people don't need these at all except the millitary

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Comment #58 by ponypo2001
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:19:16 PM
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Just like the old Video Nasty days in the 80's. Sadly, we always have to look for something to blame, and TV, video and now games are the easiest scapegoats.

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Comment #59 by ColdSpider72
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:19:28 PM
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Here's an idea: Throw the fucking guns away instead.

Gun related homicides in USA for 2011 (latest figures I could find): Just over 11,000.

Gun related homicides in England for 2012: 58

Whoever thinks gun control isn't going to help is delusional. You can play violent video games and watch violent movies in England too, the last time I checked.....and yet 58 people vs 11,000 (possibly more in 2012)

(for the record, I am this isn't bias)

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Comment #60 by The Grendel
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:20:27 PM
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The exchange is almost certainly better than GameStop... prolly a good chance to make some cash on ancient shooters. :)

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Comment #61 by Mikekips
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:24:48 PM
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Pointless effort but if you want to make some money maybe this would help.

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Comment #62 by JDAckers
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:27:56 PM
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Taking away video games will probable increase violence. Think all of all the kids that are going to see their games go up in flames and seek revenge!

A tiny percentage of people that lose grip of reality is not down to violent media, its down to poor parenting that allow their troubled kids to play games all hours of the day, which they no doubt bought for them. Add legal guns, and you get a lot of dead people.

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Comment #63 by atomic viking54
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:28:07 PM
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fuck the human race

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Comment #64 by Don Riccardo
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:28:34 PM
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Do the US-citizens also have to give this movie:

Because I think it's hilarious instead of violent... :P

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Comment #65 by D1Matman
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:30:51 PM
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Why bother trying to run violent video games out of your town? Wouldn't organising relentless mass protests and petitions to government get the job done sooner in trying to get better, or more appropriate, legislation in place to deal with some of the inadequacies (or non-existance) of public healthcare and weapons control in America? I'm sure Southington is probably a nice place full of nice people who could help make a 'real' difference, like a whole bunch of towns all over the country. But still... the games will burn... *Sigh*

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Comment #66 by Black Barney
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:31:45 PM
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They are gathering video games but not guns? NRA is smart to try and scape-goat something other than the guns.

Why don't they just start burning witches or sacrificing animals or something instead?

Not even trying to address the real problems is just going to result in more dead kids down the road. So sad.

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Comment #67 by Ehrenfried
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:33:11 PM
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Blame it on the games, sure this will help.
Of course it's not the fault of the parents, the society and that you can get everywhere a gun in the US. No....

There are some huge similarites between this and the burning of the books back in nazi germany.

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Comment #68 by scott.m
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:33:43 PM
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Here we go again.
How long has violence been around? my guess would be long before the video game, film & music industries. these days it's not violence that causes most problems, it's religion. the cause of so many problems in the world.

Now I'm not on a religion bashing here, Im stating the facts/truth. The Bible as #40 pointed out has been in circulation for thousands of years containing very specific & quite graphic details of violence ( be it theft, murder, rape), but I dont hear anyone say to burn or destroy that.

Im a proud gamer, & a very experienced one. 24 years gaming and counting, & no matter how much this debate rolls around the only point I have for it is that it all does come down to the parents of kids who ARE too young. Video games are an aid for parents an easy & lazy way to raise their children, yet when something does go wrong it's not the parents fault. Now I dont play COD anymore ( i did, but after years of the same thing i moved on) but other games with high ratings (in Australia MA15+) i get 12 year olds & under. Again, whats up with that? As a parent myself, with a child who is at the moment too young to play anything, i would never allow my child to play anything out of her age bracket, because I know what is out there, Im very well educated on this. In the end, video games would never be used as an excuse.

There's my rant. This topic always pisses me off, I just had to say my piece. Cheers

P.s. living in Australia, is this town in Connecticut a religious (hallelujah) town? If so, it would answer a number of questions.

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Comment #69 by JRWEBBY
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:33:46 PM
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Sweet looks like I can go up there and trade in all of my old CoD's and get gift cards to buy better games like Dishonored or Far Cry 3!

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Comment #70 by 1morey
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:36:22 PM
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@ #57. Listen, I also agree this is stupid, but "assault rifle" is so generic that it could be applied to any rifle that is either semi-automatic or fully-automatic.

I am not sure what country you are from, but I don't want my country to be telling me what firearms I can and cannot own. I should be able to choose whether to buy a shotgun or a rifle, or a pistol or a revolver for hunting, target practice, or for defense.

I say don't blame the guns, don't blame the games, blame Adam Lanza for what he did.

Bring back the mental health system like it used to, and keep these people from trying to harm others.

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Comment #71 by vader359
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:36:33 PM
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this is ridiculous . lets stop blaming video games movies and music and how about the parents become more involved with their kids and educate them. btw when columbine happened there was a similar movement .

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Comment #72 by PANIC ATTACK 10
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:37:28 PM
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the lack of comon sense on this post is rediculous. its not just gaming but all forms of violent media.

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Comment #73 by Drias
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:38:18 PM
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Its not the Fault of the Developers for making such fun and violent games. Its the Parent's fault for:

A. Buying a Rated M for MATURE game for their 8 year old son/daughter.

B. NOT Checking the box and seeing that it has a M rating on the FRONT and BACK of the case, with the back telling you what to expect in the game contents.

C. Not doing research on the game your kid wants before you buy it.

D. Letting your kid play online without watching him/her when it SPECIFICALLY tells you when you load up online multiplayer that "Online interaction is NOT rated by the ESRB.

E. You don't talk to your kid about the Distinctive FINE LINE of REALITY and FANTASY.

If you don't want violence in America, it's like you're asking for World Peace. I understand there are parents on here that let their kids play whatever game, and that's fine, as long as you, the parent, are mindful of what your kid is saying/doing when playing said game or even outside. I'm sure there are some parents who don't talk to their kids about this fine line, and use the Gaming system and games as a $300 baby sitter because the parents dont want to put up with their kids shit, and thats repulsive. You chose to have a kid (in most cases), so do your part as a parent and quit being a damn pecker.

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Comment #74 by Cinderkin
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:38:27 PM
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Stupid people plain and simple

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Comment #75 by Rivercurse
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:38:33 PM
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Hope they're going to thrown all their TV's out the window aswell.

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Comment #76 by TheTCD
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:41:59 PM
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So... bribery with gift certificates to assuage the guilt of terrible parenting, under the pretence that assuaging said guilt makes you a responsible citizen?

Yeah, ok. With logic like that...

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Comment #77 by Phat Princess
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:42:08 PM
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Like someone else mentioned earlier, I'm a 15 year old but I've been playing 18's since the age of about 13 and not once have I felt the need to implicate the game's actions into real life. It's not games that affect these people, it's probably just the environment they live in.

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Comment #78 by RDrules
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:44:05 PM
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@70 im pretty sure hes referring to any gun overall, if you allow somebody to have something thats made to kill people with you cant be surprised when they you know.. kill someone with it

sure its he psycho kid that did it but this isnt an isolated incident and every psycho that is to blame individually is just a symptom of a deeper problem, violence will always happen but if the country didnt allow him access to guns so easily then a lot of lives would have been saved

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Comment #79 by parkwaydr
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:44:11 PM
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I'll start to believe that video games create violent killings the day someone gets arrested for killing a pig by catapulting a bird at it.

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Comment #80 by SmS
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:45:57 PM
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Comment #81 by MabusScarab
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:46:06 PM
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When I played video games growing up as a teenager, I had enough common sense to know that after playing violent games that it was still not okay to kill people in real life. I wonder how many people joined the military after playing games like Call of Duty and Medal of Honor, but the media doesn't stop to think about aspects of the story like that.

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Comment #82 by SasileUchiha92
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:48:37 PM
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Games have rating for a reason. Don't blame the video games, blame the parents that are buying M-rated games for 12 year olds.

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Comment #83 by pandaliamcod6
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 02:55:14 PM
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Back in the 1700s people blamed the opera for corrupting the people and now today people blame video games. People will always use violent media as a scapegoat.

I'm 15 and have been playing violent video games for a long time and have no desire to commit any of these callous crimes.

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Comment #84 by Dps120390
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:03:31 PM
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i hate how they quickly blame video games, its not the games fault, before someone even buys a game, it clearly states on the box what is in the game, parents just buy the game and if something happens its there fault, second, retailers are told in several states that they have to be of age to buy an M rated game, if they dont follow that rule then its on the retailer not the game, there was more to this than video games, but games are gonna take the heat for this

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Comment #85 by evilresidentuk
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:11:53 PM
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Guns dont kill people, its the twats that pull the triggers, who knows, maybe hitler had a very early copy of GTA somewhere which sent him on his quest for world domination, maybe red alerts time travel story actually hapened and video games were sent back in time to corrupt people.

Anyone remember when Slipknot and Marilyn Manson were to blame for everything ?

My thoughts are with the people of Connecticut, it was a tragedy, but they should stop being stupid and just admit Adam Lanza was a crazy cunt and there was no rhyme or reason to it.

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Comment #86 by Lord Montymort
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:13:53 PM
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This is getting out of hand. What next? If another shooting happens are they going to travel the country and have everyone who's ever played a "violent" video game or watched a "violent" movie arrested for those murders too. Punish the person who committed the crime, not everyone else.

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Comment #87 by xduderx
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:16:12 PM
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Actually people should just give them old shitty games and take the gift card and buy some new awesome games. SUCK ON THAT

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Comment #88 by RedstoneFanatic
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:17:06 PM
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Still probably gives more money back than Gamestop would...

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Comment #89 by GaryYEAH
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:18:47 PM
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Oh, shut the fuck up.

Not you lot - I'm talking about the dickheads propagating this shit.


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Comment #90 by The Clutch Hand
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:19:24 PM
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Very political dispute, However blaming Music, Media, Games etc is not the right approach. Studies have proven a child/teens enviornment or friends effect him/her more than anything. Guns don't kill people People Kill People! We all have evil thoughts or our moments we're also human. We learn from our mistakes. Music is a way to express how you feel whether its violent or really lyrical that's the way it is. My prayers to the Sandy Hook Elementary school. The lunatic that committed this hideous act was not mentally stable,
Yet his mother took him to a shooting rage. Where were the parents at??

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Comment #91 by GaryYEAH
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:24:22 PM
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Sorry for the double post (not that I actually care), but I have been playing video games for eighteen years now - since the age of three - and I have a number of mental 'problems', and I've never felt like going on a massacre. Sure, I get annoyed with games, and I'll most likely take my anger out by punching myself in the leg or whatever, AND I've been PROFOUNDLY influenced by them... but not to kill people in real life.

The witch hunt needs to fucking stop.


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Comment #92 by Doctor Mandrake
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:25:23 PM
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There is a massive gap, a huge and gaping fucking gap, between "I don't want gun violence" and "I don't want people telling me I can't buy guns".

It's an oxymoron. Where there are firearms, there is gun violence. It's not about the government stopping the dissemination of weaponry, it's about the people actually taking responsibility.

I'm from the UK and I live in New York. And I was taught how to use weapons back in England. Schooled for years. And I learned not only how to hit a target, I learned respect for the power of the instrument. Americans, hunters or otherwise, have no idea what that actually means because they're so blinded by their second amendment.

If a threat came at me while I was holding a gun, I'd hit them with it. Because I understand that to pull the trigger is to take a life, and I don't think any one person has the right to make that decision.

People should not own high caliber weapons, period. And they should not own any fucking weapons without an incredible amount of education. Hitting a certain age should not entitle a person to buy a gun just because the Constitution says so.

Rights are not the same as responsibilities.

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Comment #93 by Jack Frost
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:28:51 PM
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So are they taking this all the way and banning news broadcasts? Because that's some of the most violent TV out there. And it's real.

And for that matter how about banning the fucking Bible? The level of violence in that book (especially the Old Testament) is pretty over the top.

Seriously, what kind of ignorant jackass are you if you can be fooled into believing that if you don't sell umbrellas, then it will never rain?

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Comment #94 by chach7171
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:33:57 PM
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Hmm..So if your a parent and drop off your kid's pile of M rated games do they also get to charge the parent with endangering the welfare of a child? I mean after all there's a reason why these games are 18+ so if these folks' kids are all under 18 what does that say for the parenting??

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Comment #95 by Unfought Battle
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:34:40 PM
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Oh hear we go, I just love how people put fingers at media entertainment for violence going on in our world. Violence has been around since the dawn of the human race, but scratch that probably even before us! But you wanna know what's worse, reading comments about people bashing our religious people. When it comes down to it, everybody likes to point fingers at everybody else. Any REASON can be used for violence, even love or on a whelm. Remember that.

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Comment #96 by superchimp99
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:38:38 PM
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Yea fuck you NRA

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Comment #97 by sinjinza1984
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:45:12 PM
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@18, it's pass the BUCK, not "pass the book"

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Comment #98 by blleiffer
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:53:09 PM
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Maybe someone should bring up the fact that Humans have been murdering each other since the beginning of time this is just another bullshit way of finding something to blame

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Comment #99 by Lord Montymort
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 03:59:46 PM
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@95 Except Religions around the world have the blood of billions on there hands. Just a few examples, The Crusades, millions killed in the name of "God" in an attempt to control his supposed "Holy City". Women accused of "witchcraft" and killed because they worshiped "Satan" not "God", but really it was just because they where smart, and people where scared of smart women. WWII, 6 Billion Jews killed by Hitler and the Nazi's, which led into one of the biggest wars ever seen, losing countless more lives.
Religion has a lot to answer for, and until they do they have no rights to criticize anyone, or anything else.

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Comment #101 by XxMayhemxX
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:09:20 PM
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#92 Hit the nail on the head...

"If a threat came at me while I was holding a gun, I'd hit them with it. Because I understand that to pull the trigger is to take a life, and I don't think any one person has the right to make that decision.

People should not own high caliber weapons, period. And they should not own any fucking weapons without an incredible amount of education. Hitting a certain age should not entitle a person to buy a gun just because the Constitution says so.

Rights are not the same as responsibilities. "

Could not of said it any better myself.. and i'm an American. Never had guns, don't need guns.. want to hunt? go fishing...Ever hear of a mass murder with a fishing pole and hook? There are just too many mentally disturbed, uneducated idiots throughout the world that have access to firearms, and The Right To Bare Arms just allows more of our idiots to have them...

Humans have had the instinct to take a life ever since the dawn of man, and sins like envy and greed currupted mens souls into taking a mans life. They know its wrong but do it anyways. Take away their means of mass murder, guns, and see how many public place get mass murders with bladed weaponed weilding maniacs... Sure there is knife wielding maniacs out there.. but 1 or 2 murders is better then mass shooting sprees...

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Comment #102 by XxMayhemxX
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:11:21 PM
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As far as the story... media doesn't have anything to do with it.. stupid knee jerk reaction from this town. Lets get rid of all the video games and movies.. that'll fix it.. right...

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Comment #103 by LeafRaider
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:11:53 PM
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It's not the games that cause people to do crazy shit, it's the individuals themselves. Normal people do not play Grand Theft Auto and think "I'm going to get me a hooker and steal some cars". Nor do they decide to shoot up a school. There may be some who are influenced by this, but that's their mental health. More money should be put towards identifying these people and control/cure them before it's too late.

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Comment #104 by LotionOnTheSkin
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:14:35 PM
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Yup a good ole modern day book burning will solve everything.

Sad day for everyone if the only thing to come from all of this is that video games are the problem.

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Comment #106 by ThoracicKez
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:17:08 PM
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if they destroy games then they should destroy violent books and films

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Comment #107 by Fullbrook
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:23:58 PM
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As much as this bothers me, I am not going to get into that.

I wonder what sort of gift certificates they are giving out? If you happen to live in the area, then it might be a good time to get rid of some games you never play anymore :)

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Comment #108 by GamePlayUK
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:28:42 PM
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Immature and stupid.. grow the fuck up.

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Comment #109 by Dragon Nexus
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:29:36 PM
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"Rather, SouthingtonSOS is saying is that there is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying."

No there isn't.
There are studies that show "possible links", but no proof of a definitive connection between playing a violent game and comitting a violent act.

If there was such a case, we'd have 6 million violent people out right now killing people. One nut job for every sale of a Call of Duty game. But we don't have that because violent video games can only trigger violence in those who are already predisposed towards violence.

It's also questionable they're giving out gift cirtificates. Mst likely for local stores so the people can give away their old games and feel virtuous, then go out and donate free money to corporations and be good little consumers again, spending money they probably wouldn't otherwise have spent.

Turning tragedy into a commercial opportunity. That's such a western thing.

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Comment #110 by maverick68
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:29:37 PM
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Overreact much?

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Comment #111 by Fullbrook
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:29:41 PM
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Maybe I will get a little involved.. :) Haven't read all the comments yet, but hope someone else hasn't posted this..

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Comment #112 by fodbod
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:30:26 PM
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#105 Yeah i agree Gingers is the reason why there is so much hate in the world they are working with the devil thumbs down plz

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Comment #113 by kurse13
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:31:38 PM
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Please bring dumpster to my house. Maybe there is some games I don't have yet.

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Comment #114 by EviL Bettee
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:33:15 PM
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I'm pretty sure there was violence in the world long before video games came along.

Always been ignorance though

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Comment #115 by _Nosferatu_
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:35:51 PM
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Scapegoat... people will always need one.

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Comment #117 by Beardyboo
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:38:15 PM
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I'm thinking its time to ditch the new and plug back in my Master System............

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Comment #118 by XxMayhemxX
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:39:57 PM
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some americans are stupid.. just like anywhere else.. dont pile on all of us...

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Comment #119 by Wolverine674
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:48:33 PM
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Oh, for F sake. First, no child should have a game like CoD or other M rated games...because they're M rated. A stupid and lazy parent who buys their 10 year old GTA or CoD should be ashamed of themselves. Who cares if all his other friends are playing it, that just means their parents are just as stupid and lazy.

As long as they're going after games, why not target movies, music and the news? A lot of them display and speak about violence.

You can't target video games as a whole, no one sees Little Big Planet or Kinect Sports as a gateway to violent behavior. They want to control who can buy M rated games, fine. Kids shouldn't be allowed to buy them anyway, much in the same way as kids shouldn't be allowed in R rated movies.

Parents need to be more diligent and make sure their kids aren't playing M rated games or watching/listening to mature movies/music, and if their child has mental health issues, they really need to keep on top of it.

Personally, I'm sick of hearing about games, movies and music being the bane of existence and the cause of violence. I've played games since the Atari 2600 and played all genres and I've never committed an act of violence, and neither has any of my other gaming friends.

Any study they conduct will most likely be skewed in their favor. I'm sure they'll hand pick which games they want to test, like Postal, instead of testing from all genres.

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Comment #120 by Lbrun12415
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 04:53:05 PM
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What about all the people that killed before video games were invented? What do people believe are the cause for that? In the case the Kid was sick and his mother showed him how to use a gun, video games are not the blame

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Comment #121 by Jesuit007
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:07:29 PM
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Simple truth is that this is a fairly typical response for adults who are out of touch with their kids and modern media to a tragedy they can't explain.

No one can explain it really, but when people don't know what to do they look for things to blame. It's human nature.

Not saying it will fix anything, but I certainly can understand the rationale behind this program.

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Comment #122 by xMEGADETHxSLY
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:07:43 PM
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South Park the movie ????

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Comment #123 by Blue Cactuar
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:09:58 PM
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I have just been playing Angry Birds and in-keeping with the theme of this demonstration I must now have an uncontrollable urge to go outside and throw some birds at a group of pigs?

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Comment #125 by mrvtec10
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:13:58 PM
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Scape goat because connecticut isn't good at shooters

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Comment #126 by sheem
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:14:50 PM
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this is crazy we may never know why adam lanza did what he did it is unexplainable but where i live people die evey day woman children kids in no way im i comparing this to newtown in any way but someone is getting killed as i type this reply destroying video games is not the answer it all.

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Comment #127 by Snoop QC
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:15:21 PM
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Yeah right! Just read this again but put guns, firearms and gun culture in place of video games and violent medias...

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Comment #128 by AtomFire
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:17:16 PM
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Why destroy them? the Game dev's and publishers have already made their money so why bother?

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Comment #129 by PhoenixTemplar
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:18:37 PM
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@116 - Do you realize how much of a hypocrite you are, or is the irony of what you posted lost on you? You don't want to blame violent games, but instead point the finger at another inanimate object? It's definitely the weapons fault. Lets not look at the underlying mental illness or possibly assign personal responsibilty.

@105 - Can we come to some agreement wherein I pay you not to talk? Let me know.

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Comment #130 by Emperor 95
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:18:39 PM
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while we are at it lets go and burn Christian Bale, simply because batman was aired during a shootout

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Comment #131 by tommy50
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:22:56 PM
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so how the hell are video games the reason for the shootings? people are looking to blame something, which i get. but why not put that energy into a positive thing like, reform of gun control, improved security at schools, and improve mental heath reforms???

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Comment #132 by Tai_MT
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:24:21 PM
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Hooray for this completely moral victory that solves absolutely no problems! Don't worry though, it at least allows the community to FEEL BETTER about itself during the interims between shootings and shoddy parenting.

After all, isn't that what it's all about? Feeling better without actually accomplishing something? After all, solving the problem would be HARD. Let's just burn violent media. That's EASY. It also LOOKS LIKE we care if we do it. It's not the RESULTS that matter! IT'S THE INTENT!

Next week, this group is going to have a sit-in to stop world hunger! They're going to be burning high fat and high salt content foods behind the local McDonalds. SEE YOU ALL THERE!

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Comment #133 by Fullbrook
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:27:25 PM
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hmm anyone else notice how similar Newtown is to Nuketown.. I think they are right.. it is all COD's fault..

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Comment #134 by Thicketford
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:28:13 PM
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You know who I blame? The guy with the gun who shot the kids.

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Comment #135 by bigbear2face
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:28:50 PM
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When you account for all types of murders (guns, knifes etc...), subtract out all gang related violence and account for differences in population the murder rates in the UK and the USA are virtually identical.

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Comment #136 by pauly_27
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:29:28 PM
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Stupid. Instead of "disposing" of the games, why don't the individuals sell them and give the money to an appropriate charity?

Instead, you get some sort of rabble rousing that is equivalent to some sort of medieval witch burning.

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Comment #137 by tommy50
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:30:37 PM
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well my already low faith in humanity is in taters

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Comment #138 by l.maciver
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:36:09 PM
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Burn them all, games are violent.
Burn them all, Movies are violent.
Burn them all, Books are violent.

yeah how about you burn yourselfs you idiots. How about taking care of the real problem like peoples upbringing rather than just sitting them infront of a tv for a full day every day of the year.

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Comment #139 by rumpy007
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:37:00 PM
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I remember every one blaming violence in movies and video games when columbine happened, oh and violent music too, and it was funny that one group of people blamed the movie the matrix even tho it came out a month after the school shooting happened. I only heard once that some one asked were are the parents in the columbine shooting. So my point is parents parent your children please. I have been expose to alot of violence in the media and movies and games when I was a kid but my parents told me right from wrong, how to be a good person and so forth. What ever happened to parents teaching moral values and dosn't most crime happened are gang related or in low income areas?

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Comment #140 by icegardner9
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:42:14 PM
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I blame Fox News. But no really, video games are just an easy target for them to blame. Why would a perant that bought COD for their kid go and say " I'm taking this away because its violent even though I bought the game for you." If you think it is to violent for them then WHY did you BUY it for them in the first place.

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Comment #141 by Siphon Filther
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:44:30 PM
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No offence to anybody... but I must say this.
Seen from Europe, the USA seems a country populated by dumb people because to us it seems like you always miss the big picture. A guy enter a school, shoot a bunch of people, and what people do? They go to wal-mart and buy even more guns and teach their children how use them. And why they do that? Because they believe the enemy is always OUT there and if it gets closer WE KILL IT, WE SHOOT IT, WE BLOW ITS HEAD FIRST. Only in 2012 there were 4 major shooting all across the USA and everytime people were rushing to buy more weapons... to feel "safe", to be "prepared". When they will learn the lesson?

WAKE UP AMERICA! the enemy is not out there! The enemy is NOT a rock group a bad movie, or a violent video game. The enemy is not even Satan or the Terrorists you are terribly afraid of... The enemy is inside the contraddictions of your system, is inside the fabric of your society where people are very unequal among them, where you have been taught since childhood that freedom means having the rights to keep a gun and shoot at your own judgment.
You may think that people who do such acts are just plain crazy, but it's not always like that... Simply some people just cannot handle problems, and they react in the way they are taught: kill your enemy or what you see as an enemy. So just to start, You americans, should stop buying gun, you should see "bear arms" as not your right anymore and you should also teach your children how to handle life. No game, movie or book can mine the beliefs of those who have been given a solid non-violent education.

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Comment #142 by UltimateAuron32
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:45:11 PM
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oh for fucksake, AGIAN, really... my games collection and consoles has probably cost me over £3'000 the past 3 years, would they give me that in gift vouchers? no, of coarse they wouldnt...

i live in the UK and while are gun laws are much stricter (no member of public can have pistols, assault rifles ect...) this kind of thing does still happen. the most recent example would be Raul Moat, who it turns out WANTED help from professionals, went to THE POLICE WARNING them wasn't right and was WORRIED that he would endanger lives. what happened? they TURNED HIM AWAY!!

bottom line, in most cases like this, the individual is ignored and thrown out of the front door by a fucking idiot who doesn't care because he makes most peoples yearly pay in one month.

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Comment #143 by xxxacexxxconks
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:46:24 PM
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If a video game inspires people to go out and murder someone or a group of murders, then that person should not be on the streets. Absolutely ridiculous to blame video games.

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Comment #144 by Donnymite
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:53:05 PM
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How about these fucks just ban CoD period? Yet its games such as Max Payne 3, GTA IV, hell, fucking Dead Rising that don't cause this shit, and are twice as violent, lay some fucking bans on CoD, its unplayable, and maybe if these fucking parents could read the "Mature" rating on the game, they could get something through their thick skulls. Most of these kids have never even heard of the games I've listed above, they are gonna "Destroy" games? Guaranteeing you already bought the game with your hard earned money, how stupid will it make you look to waste it all? Over some incident that relates NOTHING to gaming?

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Comment #145 by Donnymite
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:54:32 PM
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*Forgot to add above*

And its the kids that you know have major issues that you know shouldn't play it either.

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Comment #146 by pnutosan
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:57:03 PM
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And once again parents are blaming everything apart from their crappy parenting as a reason why their kids are nuts...


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Comment #147 by 1morey
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 05:59:50 PM
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Ok here is an idea. We have all these U.S. troops coming home from Iraq and Afghanistan. Why don't we send the ones that get discharged to schools as security. Maybe three-four per school/campus.

This creates jobs for returning veterans, and it increases security at the schools as there are multiple armed guards who are military trained.

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Comment #148 by three15
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:11:19 PM
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Ahh yes, it's video games that kill. Guns don't kill, people do, but video games, they defiantly kill.


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Comment #149 by l.maciver
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:13:28 PM
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blame games, here is something people should remember. millions of people play games and there isnt millions of violence. There is always going to be nutters and if you give a nutter a gun you do the fucking math, no matter if its games, movies, tv shows, panto, books, religion and there own right to bear arms cause of a document they'll will use it.

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Comment #150 by treo9
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:18:24 PM
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Automatic guns available to the public, and unstable people with access to them is why mass murders like this happen and will continue to happen unless laws are changed in the U.S, it has jack shit to do with video games and movies, and parents who house these unstable kids in there homes with automatic rifles and other guns have no one else to blame but themselves when these horrific murders occur.

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Comment #151 by kyboy
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:22:32 PM
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I really feel bad for the kids of these people.. Seriously, because that means if any of these people have children then their kids can't watch Batman, Spiderman, Superman, etc.. you get my point.

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Comment #152 by JSouthgate
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:25:16 PM
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I wonder if the $25 gift voucher can be used for games. . . might make this a better option than Game Stop for old shooters. . .

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Comment #153 by JSouthgate
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:29:29 PM
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Guess not:

"$25 gift voucher intended to be used for other forms of entertainment, like perhaps, a local water park. The gift certificate will be donated by a member of the Greater Southington Chamber of Commerce as a "token of appreciation for their action of responsible citizenship," according to a press release."

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Comment #154 by RDWatson16
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:34:15 PM
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blame parents not video games parents have the responsibility to teach their children to be nice upstanding citizens who are always there when you need them, the people that end up violent are the ones that suffer neglect and punishment and feel like they have no one to go to. so sort out everything else and after the main problem is sorted you will see video games are not to blame

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Comment #155 by XxMCOAxX
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:36:16 PM
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games don't kill people people kill people.

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Comment #156 by matt schwindt
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:41:22 PM
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Didn't the Nazi's do this with books?

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Comment #157 by Paladin419
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:46:00 PM
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It's a knee-jerk reaction to a tragedy that no one fully understands. I can understand the mindset, but it's similar to shooting arrows at thunderclouds because lightning burned down your home last year. Children (and people in general) are not math equations; you can't change the videogame violence variable and get the solution you were looking for.

There are so many things we don't know about the man who committed this crime, least of which is whether or not he even played violent videogames. I would like to think that we, as a society, have reached the point where we no longer believe the argument that "the devil/tv/Duke Nukem made me do it" is valid. There is no simple solution. We have to educate children on what violence is and peaceful ways of conflict resolution, improve our national mental healthcare state, at least place a basic set of guidelines in terms of firearm regulation, ensure proper enforcement of ESRB ratings, educate parents (yes, parents) on being brave enough to talk to their children to better understand what they're watching and playing instead of being the "cool mom or dad" that lets their kids do stuff they aren't supposed to do.

Even if you made all these monumental changes, people are going to still kill senselessly, because some people just turn out that way; as monsters. Life is more random than any of us would like to admit. I'm not scared to send my kid to school, to go to a movie theatre, or to fly on airplanes, or any of it. Because as soon as any person (or a society) lets fear take over, that's when the real inhuman monster surfaces.

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Comment #158 by chriscutis
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:49:53 PM
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To paraphrase David Cross: "What were the video games Hitler distributed to the nazis?" As others have said healthcare reform, taking the stigma away from psychotherapy, and gun control would have an impact, this will not.

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Comment #159 by n0b0dyz
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:49:54 PM
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i think they're jumping to conclusions. i'd like to see some studies showing how violent video games affect long term behavior. maybe the kids were just raised shitty. i started playing GTA when i was 8 years old but i grew up with decent parents who taught me good morals, so you dont see me going batshit crazy.

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Comment #160 by masterq60
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:50:03 PM
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They always need something to blame it on, they never just stop and think, maybe this guy just felt like doing it, mental or not

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Comment #161 by TM87 Sam
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:50:47 PM
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@12, You're a genuis. I live in Hartford, so I wonder if I can get my mom to drive me to Southington. I'll gladly grab whatever I can.

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Comment #162 by frazyah
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:55:26 PM
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It may only be me, but I read that article a bit differently than it seems everyone else did. First, it seems to be entirely voluntary for parents, nobody is going door to door collecting games they deem "violent". If I were a parent and my child spent every waking moment thinking about or playing any game, regardless of content, I might consider trading it just to keep an obsession from becoming unhealthy. This goes double if I can get some worthwhile credit for it. I've known those 8-year-olds who only talk about Call of Duty. And I had friends fail out of college because of WoW. It looks to me like they are encouraging parents to take a closer look at the games their kids are playing, and to make the decision on whether their kids are mature enough not just to handle content, but to handle gaming in general.

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Comment #163 by CHICHO
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 06:55:42 PM
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I love how it's always "violent media" that makes people kill. So what was Jack the Ripper's gamertag?

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Comment #164 by Ostrowski
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:04:37 PM
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Our children see this stuff because you go to the store and buy your child M rated games, Its not anyone elses fault but your own.Retail stores do a dam good job of not letting kids buy m rated games, trust me I used to have to drag my grandfather into stores withme because i was too young to buy games and no matter what excuse you have they never sold me shit unless someone 17 and older was there. So blame yourselves not anyone else and if you want to destroy your own stuff because of that then go for it, your loss

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Comment #165 by ELITEx97
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:13:32 PM
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Why Burn Violent Games When You Can Burn Books (50 Shades Of Grey) ;)

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Comment #166 by Rasgele
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:13:37 PM
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I don't agree with all the people saying "its not the games its the parents letting 8 year olds play them" completely, i have played violent games since i was about 6 and i turned out to be a pretty nice person, it depends entirely on the child itself, not all children have the same reactions to violent games as others.

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Comment #167 by AscendingSnow
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:21:02 PM
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This is why we can't have nice things :(

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Comment #168 by Grummy
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:24:21 PM
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Maybe I missed something, but at what point was this proven to be the work of a religious group? A lot of people seem to be very quick to blame the religious and the 'God squad' for this.

It's also worth noting that they have some noble and sensible goals, especially trying to encourage discussion between parents and children. Regardless of the school shooting, it has always been imperative for Parents to become more aware and better educated about what their children watch, read, listen to and play. This isn't just a games issue. The problem is that it's not a violent media issue. Violent media is regulated so only the people of the right level of maturity (represented in this case by reaching a certain age) can access the content, however this can be circumvented by ignorant parents or other 'responsible' adults who allow their children this content without care.

I don't personally believe that a 14 year old playing GTA is going to go out and shoot hookers or somesuch, but I DO believe that parents should be educated regarding the content they let their children experience. If after learning this, they still decide to let their children experience that media, then so be it, for better or worse it is an informed decision. The trouble is ignorance. That is far more problematic than being able to shooting a computer generated image of a Russian or middle eastern man.

This group have a good and noble purpose, but what they're dealing with it in a bad way. This is little more than a mob mentality or a panicked reaction that is scapegoating media rather than actually facing up to the bigger problems, ignorant and uneducated parents and adults.

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Comment #169 by WEBHEAD 7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:27:43 PM
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here's the way i see it,,
violent video games, movies, music, cartoons, comics,, etc.. exist because PEOPLE are violent.
violent video games, movies, music, cartoons, comics,, etc.. provide an outlet that probably saves more lives than they destroy.

now a kid who gets exposed to these things way too early thanks to piss poor parents who let the tv basically raise the kid,, can easily grow up a bit twisted. that's just the truth.

mature ratings on these forms of media are only useful if the parents heed them. all these violent video games this group is planning to throw in the bin,, who bought them in the first place? couldn't have been minors, since hopefully the local game shop IDs when these games are brought up to the till.

supposedly this stunt is to encourge conversation between the parents and kids. great, fantastic,, but it's a violent means to an end which will continue to elude.

and we all know how well prohibition works

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Comment #170 by litepink
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:28:06 PM
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Please, send all your games to me, c/o litepink. I'll uh...burn them at an unspecified time...

The arrival of these games on my gamercard, and then later on a Best Buy trade-in receipt, is purely coincidental.

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Comment #171 by Firebird NZ
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:33:30 PM
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If someone goes on a killing spree there's something wrong with them mentally.
It has absolutely nothing to do with violent games, if it did, there would be alot more shootings. I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they did a study and violent games actually help with anger as it helps people get it all out of their system. And what's going to happen after they've take them all away and there's more shootings? What are they going to blame then? "Everyone who has been a part of the recent shootings liked to drink chocolate milk, therefore, chocolate milk must be the cause!"

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Comment #172 by Rickmassacre
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:35:25 PM
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typical blame it on something else.
instead of taking responsibility for the children they brought up.

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Comment #173 by Crazyfulla
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:45:10 PM
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As said by alot of people here! its all the parents/caregivers they LET them play these games they have ratings for a reason! they should step up and be parents.. or atleast stop having unprotected sex till they understand the responsibility of being a parent.

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Comment #174 by ScottHarris
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:52:02 PM
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Do people forget that violence was around before Games existed ? clearly they do. Idiots.

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Comment #175 by crunchb3rry
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:53:34 PM
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If they were serious, they'd be burning violent movies too. What a load of shit. And for the 500th time, the guy that shot up that school was 20 years old and of legal age to buy every fucking game they're trying to pin that on.

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Comment #176 by IFC3000
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:54:17 PM
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Available tomorrow on games on demand - Action packed Christian Game to support your Bible lessons and help teach the Word of God - a fun Thanksgiving game that involves patience, teamwork and using the Bible + fast paced action as you chase the names of Bible characters. Bonus - free downloadable dlc that introduces first miracle performed by Jesus.

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Comment #177 by Akira_Katayama
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:54:47 PM
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I don't know if both Picard and Riker have enough facepalm for this...

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Comment #178 by crunchb3rry
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 07:56:08 PM
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"Do people forget that violence was around before Games existed ? clearly they do. Idiots. "

I heard Ghenghis Kahn was a big Choplifter fan. He didn't even play the game, just squashed the POWs.

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Comment #179 by Hannibal king 88
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:03:07 PM
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@90 for what i read she was standing right beside him saying sqeeze dont pull the trigger. Dont hink she figured hed use her and a group of little kids as target practice. I have 2 little boys and my son sits on my lap and he loves feelong the controler shake as i shoot the br on halo. But i can put money on ot my son will lno the diffrence between playing halo with daddy and the dumb fucks that do stupid shyt in the real world. Its bad whe u play gears cod or halo online and the ones swearin r kids around 13 tellin you to go fuck your mother. Fuckin parents need to watch there kids

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Comment #180 by Hannibal king 88
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:06:16 PM
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I think all of us as gamers should fight back (not literaly) and actualy stand up amd say that its not wat we play its the sick ones that play it. Not every gamer is gunna grab an intervention amd quick scoup people walking pnes seeing it from a gamers view

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Comment #181 by Rysto
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:07:40 PM
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This is like having a good old book burning! Or do they still have those anymore? Kindle burning? Nook burning?

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Comment #182 by lq13
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:08:01 PM
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Im no parent, but i am an uncle. My sister lets her kids come to my apartment and play video games without worry of what Im allowing them to play. She knows I sit down and talk to them about the game they are wanting to play before playing it. For example, I let my oldest niece, who was nine at the time, play Fallout New Vegas. Before i allowed her to play I talked with her about why she shouldnt do the violent action she'll do in the game, in real life. I exsplained how such a world could come about, it even involved a brief history lesson.
I also exsplained what good she could learn. I told about helping people, learning how to survive, and how to judge right from wrong when the situation maybe fuzzy on right and wrong. I let her ask questions as well so that i knew she was at the least pretending to pay attention.
Granted she was only nine at the time, ten now, and I know she didn't understand everything, but I wasn't going to set her lose and let think it was alright to do those things in real life. I tried to do be responsible about it.

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Comment #183 by Yourburntstar
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:20:24 PM
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just another failed attempt at a government cover up.

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Comment #184 by fixurownemail
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:34:10 PM
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Ignore the fact the shooter at Sandy Hook had mental issues...ignore the fact the shooter has access and maybe even motive for the shooting...ignore the fact his mother (this is my opinion) didn't seem to really care for the shooter completely. Let's blame everything else in the world, because those guns got up on their own and took all those lives.

Though I do agree younger children should not being playing CoD, BF, Halo...etc. That is something that the PARENT is responsible for, and it disgusted me to no end that the parents are never blamed first...

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Comment #185 by BluWolve
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:35:01 PM
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"Offending games will be collected in a dumpster..."

Does anyone know where this dumpster is going to be stored?

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Comment #186 by cfish81
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:35:53 PM
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The Bible is 30x as violent as the most violent video game, so why don't they burn that instead?

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Comment #187 by fresh fish 101
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:39:56 PM
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Comment #188 by Richters Shadow
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:41:06 PM
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"If we do not learn from History, we are doomed to repeat it."

Burn the witches, with their corruption.
Burn the books, with their corruption.
Burn the games, with their corruption.

These shootings should be taken as a sign that 'how society views mental health' needs addressing. Finding a scapegoat solves nothing.

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Comment #189 by WalterEdison
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:45:07 PM
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They should have a Parent Burning for all the parents who bought their kids violent games

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Comment #190 by Craigimuss
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 08:59:05 PM
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What a load of crap! I grew up with games like GTA, Saints Row, Halo, Gears of War etc and I have never even had any contact with the police. People commit terrible crimes every day; is that all to be held accountable by the media. NO. Some people are just screwed in the head.

If anything they should look at how the Army advertises here in the UK. There latest adverts all look like COD footage. "War as a Video Game What better Way to Raise the Ultimate Soldier"

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Comment #191 by INSANE ASHBY 16
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:03:28 PM
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Isn't this what the age ratings system is for? It's simple really up the strictness stores selling to minors and then just blame the parents who opt to ignore the age ratings its wrong that the acts of the few are getting such a large reaction from people just looking for a scapegoat

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Comment #192 by tunaleg
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:05:32 PM
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Burn video games? This is some dangerously small minded bullshit.

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Comment #193 by snowchild83
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:16:03 PM
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Millions of people die from AIDS-related diseases every year

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Comment #194 by onyxguard11
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:21:25 PM
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its ridiculous how people blame video games for people going on psycho rampages.halo,black ops battlefield,ect. didn't cause that fuck to shoot those kids,him being mentally disabled and his mom teaching him about guns is the reason,burn her fucking ass.

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Comment #195 by drkltus2
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:24:55 PM
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Comment #196 by IFC3000
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:26:50 PM
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Video games are not a bad influence on children, homosexuality is...

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Comment #197 by i got squeezed
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:30:16 PM
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@4 I'll say this again to you and to anyone else. CoD is NOT the only game that has violence. Ever heard of Halo, Gears of War, Battlefield? More kids are on Gears and Halo. Stop targeting CoD. In gears, you blow heads off, you chinsaw people, body parts go flying. I find that worse than anything else.

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Comment #198 by ryanweinmann
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 09:43:53 PM
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The News media is the worst media out there.

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Comment #199 by cheevo360
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:01:23 PM
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They are crazy. No need banned this type of fun games to play.

It's just parent's faults, mental health people's faults and kid's faults who ignore their parents. That is problems so do not blame violent games, movies, CD and books. They nothing harms it just half 50% people is faults in world. SO BLAME PEOPLE INSTEAD OF VIOLENT THINGS TO USE IN ENTERTAINMENTS!!!!

Connecticut is terrible business and stupid folks over there. :)

WE ALL ARE GAMERS AND WE ALL LOVE GAMING!!! Just leave us alone and give violent games a chance. :):):):):)

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Comment #200 by thenewpeter
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:02:40 PM
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You want to stop these dam crimes from happening, well, here's an idea to cut them back:

1: Stop the sale of fire arm's to private citizens.

Having such an easy access for guns is one of the reasons the US has shootings on such high rates compared to other country's.

2: Strengthen the mental health care bill.

From what I understand, something about that was fucked up some time back, a friend of mine wanted to get some counselling at her uni in the us, there was a 7 month waiting list... for counselling... In the UK, you can get something for that sorted in minuets :/ not when the problem will either be over (for better or more likely worse) or it'll be to late to try to act on.

3: Get parents to teach their kids god dam common sense.

I've had an argument with a mother buying her child GTA IV in a store, well, not so much an argument, but more of a heated discussion, she asked me if it was any good, i answered depends on the person, she pointed to her son, i ask how old, she says 8. 'You're going to buy you're 8 year old child a game that's made to be appropriate for adults only?' my exact words, her's 'yeh, it's only a game, why wouldn't I?'

I said my views, she put the game back and walked off with the kid. He's to young to understand the game, at least until he's been taught by his parent what the difference of things are, but even then, the game it's self is to mature for his age. At least the women had the common sense not to buy it then, but there are to many parent's who will just buy it under that notion :/

Why is it that common sense is something that's so lacking for humans? :/

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Comment #201 by cheevo360
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:05:02 PM
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I don't like what happened in shoots last month but it just guy who is mental. That's. Just put him in prison that all we care for murders!!!

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Comment #202 by cheevo360
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:06:38 PM
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#200 Good point there!!! :P

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Comment #203 by cheevo360
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:08:49 PM
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Let violent games party and laughing at some company outside of entertainments and show they are stupid and folks and very embarrassed as they pick wrong place. :)

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Comment #204 by Deathbeard 666
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:10:26 PM
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This has been said plenty of times already... why can't the parents just be fucking parents and not purchase violent video games for the children? Simple as that. I work at Gamestop, I see plenty of parents DAILY enabling this happening. If it's apparently an issue, there is a simple stop to it. Do not put "dangerous" games in the hands of "impressionable" children.

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Comment #205 by Misfit X7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:11:03 PM
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This all happened because you can shoot whores in GTA3...that and Cpt. Sheppard had sex with an alien.

i LOVE how these people say 'we're not blaming violent media for the shooting....but um, let's go ahead and just burn this shit all the same.'

i think people should stop shooting school kids, maybe start gunning for bad parents?

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Comment #206 by Misfit X7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:12:28 PM
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@204 good point but sheltering kids isn't any better....i think people need to just actually RAISE their children and do all the leg work associated with that job.

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Comment #207 by cheevo360
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:15:45 PM
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We need new sex games because there rare of it on PC in past. I want to see more sex on games will be so fun. Mass Effect series show a bit and they pretty but need to show full sex. Hahahaha

Too many violent games every years which is fun so it is need sex too. :)

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Comment #208 by DreddPirate Rob
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:18:21 PM
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Here's an idea. when the guy behind the counter tells you that the game you little brat wants is rated M or T and tells you whats included in the game. you should probably listen. and If they dont tell you the case does. But im not a parent so what do i know.

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Comment #209 by LeeJ2512
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:19:59 PM
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Ahh for fuck's sake. Maybe stop being bat crap crazy and stop letting your kids get hands on guns.

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Comment #210 by otimothy
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:20:12 PM
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Try parenting children...raise your kid right and teach them the difference between right and wrong

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Comment #211 by Hannibal king 88
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:21:08 PM
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@197 no shyt cods not he only one gears is probly the worst but the funny thing iTHERE ALL M is a little 8 year old doing on gears of war tellin people to suck his dick. Um ya that would be theparents fault .

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Comment #212 by ellegard38
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:34:26 PM
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I live in Connecticut and although I feel for everyone involved in this tragedy, I don't think this is a good way to solve the problem. Violence has been around forever and will continue to be. I grew up playing games (some of them violent) on the Super Nintendo and have been a gamer since. I've never once thought about committing a crime. So I don't think video games are to blame here.

They should focus more on improving mental healthcare and perhaps even stricter gun laws. And maybe parents need to start teaching their kids about this kind of stuff. My parents at least taught me right from wrong and how to make the good decisions in life.

And they are not getting any games from me

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Comment #213 by nothingface0
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:37:06 PM
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Yeah let's get rid of video games. We all know crazy and violent people never existed before games.

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Comment #214 by I Wear Deo
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:44:09 PM
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I would like to let all of you know that I am 17 and played Asuras Wrath... after playing it I wanted to punch people like the person in the game did. Oh yeah Asuras Wrath is only rated T.

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Comment #215 by Jraa7
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 10:49:39 PM
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next year the same group will search for another cause
disney land got alot of visitors ^_^ lol

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Comment #216 by IFTHISTHENTHAT
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:02:47 PM
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So many comments, so little sanity.

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Comment #217 by AqueousBoy
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:05:01 PM
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Until mankind stops being so violent toward each other in so many ways, video games should be an absolute low priority for anyone.

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Comment #218 by my_box_72
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:10:13 PM
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What f...ckin idiots being playing video games for 25 plus years , these people need to get a grip on there f...ckin lives and stop blame dam video games for shooting etc...

It was sad thing that happened to those poor kids and people in Connecticut , but blaming the wrong cause seriously GGF !!!

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Comment #219 by Cinderkin
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:10:32 PM
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Now we know that if the comments hit 200 the page dies

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Comment #220 by treo9
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:11:57 PM
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@ 199, 201, 202, 203, 207.. LOL What are you smoking, and can i have some.
Are you the Riddler.

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Comment #221 by AlienLocust
Thursday, January 03, 2013 @ 11:51:32 PM
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I guess it is easier to blame everything else other than yourself.

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Comment #222 by Golden Guard
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:18:38 AM
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"Offending games will be collected in a dumpster and then sent away for appropriate permanent disposal."

Will they actually be destroying them? Or is this just another phrase for being resold elsewhere?

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Comment #223 by Venomized
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:45:22 AM
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I would keep my games for sure Ahah. Anyone who thinks this is the cause of iolence are retards. Videos games didn't exist in the past yet wars took place.

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Comment #224 by Nihlus87
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 01:01:16 AM
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Couldn't possibly be anything to do with gun laws and extremely bad parenting. There are so many parents these days that just don't give a fuck. The only reason they have kids is for money, putting no effort into parenting, when shit goes down lets blame the videogames because we can't be bothered to take responsability for our own mistakes.

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Comment #225 by BluWolve
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 01:28:01 AM
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Seriously, where will this dumpster be?

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Comment #226 by TH3 R00KI3
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:20:01 AM
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Typical american reaction full of utter stupidity. Other countries also have these games but dont have the same amount of violence. Clearly letting some jackass buy some fully automatic assualt rifles isnt the bigger problem for the country.

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Comment #227 by millionsxknives
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:29:38 AM
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People always need to find something to blame. Ugh.

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Comment #228 by menoknow 88
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:31:22 AM
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i wonder if they are going to do it ET style?

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Comment #229 by the bears beard
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:32:04 AM
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@10 Clearly you have never actually read the bible!

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Comment #230 by diesoft
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:45:18 AM
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Never thought I'd live to see an updated book burning. Hell, this kind of shit is stupid enough...let's call it witch burning. Burn the evil! Burn it!

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Comment #231 by Lazy_FAQer
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:49:09 AM
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Well, there may be some truth to it, although it seems that they are throwing the baby out with the bath water.

I suppose if nobody has violent images played in their mind, then the propensity to commit violent actions is kerbed slightly, & the graphic methods they use will to carry these out will not be presented to them through media formats.

It will be an interesting social test, although I feel that the very fact that such an atrocity has occurred on their doorstep will act as a bigger deterent than any media ban.

My thoughts go to the suffering families of those poor children:(

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Comment #232 by Lazy_FAQer
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:07:20 AM
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Having read through the posts again, I feel that some of you need to be reminded that a lot of 6 year olds lost their lives; THAT IS FUCKING HEARTBREAKING!

It makes me feel sick to the core for these poor souls... & I live in another continent... I really can't condone any negative comments towards the citizens of Newtown if they want to try and do something to move on... don't forget that this is a true tragedy... far worse than anything as inconsequential as a handful of computer GAMES being banned or buried!

Get some perspective people, rather than looking at the world through your own selfish lenses.

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Comment #233 by onyxguard11
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:07:32 AM
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yeah i highly doubt playing black ops or halo can cause someone to go on a massacre.the kids mom taught him how to use guns as a kid when hes severely mentally disturbed,they're both to blame,not goddamn video games.

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Comment #234 by Intoxicatious
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:18:05 AM
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Violent video games cause aggression in youth in USA and Japan:

Yet, gun-related deaths are much lower in Japan when compared to USA:

So, although violent games cause aggression world-wide, why are more people dying to gun violence in America? Clearly games are but a small factor and should just be better regulated in the hands of minors. But I'm not seeing a direct correlation between games and gun deaths.

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Comment #235 by Jaws as Crowns
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:19:07 AM
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i cant really side with anyone. it is ridiculous how often people blame video games but people play M games because theyre the best games and the games everyone is playing. look at the top 20 list and most are M rated games. Im not saying the parents are right but violence does sell and its whats selling most now.

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Comment #236 by BluWolve
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:30:13 AM
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@232 I agree with you, it is heart breaking that all those kids lost their lives. But to say that video games had anything to do with it is completely and utterly ignorant and stupid.

The guy was a piece of shit scum bag, plain and simple. Unfortunately there are lots of those monsters in the world, and there always has been, long before video games ever existed.

If it makes the people that were affected by this tragic event feel better, then by all means they can go ahead and burn whatever they want. However, burning video games is not going to fix the problem and is not going to prevent something like this happening again.

These people should stop wasting their time destroying things that make a lot of people happy, and should start putting their time and energy into coming up with ways to actually prevent this sort of horrible tragedy from happening in the future.

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Comment #237 by Lazy_FAQer
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:41:34 AM
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@ 236; I'm not saying that games are the cause, but let them deal with it how they see fit. They have a lot of grieving to do & if this scapegoat helps, then so be it.

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Comment #238 by Dark Anaconda
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:07:40 AM
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This is what i believe:

1) Violent Media/Games are not the main reason for school schooting but they can be an inspiration how to kill somebody or how to make a kill-plan.

2) Sure the parents have much responsibility for their kids, but it`s not alone the parents fault, there are much more things than that. Connecticut shouldn`t scape goat violent media and WE shouldn`t scape goat the parentes alone, because the reason behind all of this goes much deeper than some people think.

3) Even if you are the best father and mother, you have not full control of the life of your child. Maybe you have controll of your kid when it`s home but what if your child goes to school? What if other students are bullying your child every day and you don`t recognize this as a father or mother, because your child doesn`t want to speak about that? Don`t forget that the actors of school shooting are in most cases victims too. I mean honestly ,if other students are bullying you every day, insulting you hurting you every day, you won`t be able to take this any longer, you will look for solutions. You could surely talk with your parents, change school, talk with the parents of the students who hurt you, but some people get hurt that much, they just can`t find a way but to suicide or seeking for revenge in form of killing.

I am from germany and we also have kids who are playing violent games at the age of 9. Go and play Cod Black Ops 2 right now and you will see a bunch of german kids screaming like piggs in the game-chat, so stop calling american parents as dumb.

We have the same problem too.

Oh btw: In the german game news you can also see that there is a group of people like Connecticut who want to destroy violent games, so this action is not only in america. But the reactions of the german gamers are the same like from the americans. ;)

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Comment #239 by Dark Anaconda
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:13:38 AM
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Just wanted to say this real quick too: If you are not allowed to play games, you will get bored and this could make you go outside and make some trouble/crime.

I strongly believe that boredom can cause much troubles than playing violent games, because you are entertained you have something to do. I see a lot of young people in the street. They have nothing to do ,so they are start with drinking and smoking, insulting people on the streets when its nights ,just because they are bored. This can make much more trouble than playing games IMO.

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Comment #240 by NFP911
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:17:20 AM
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^^ in Germany we have that for over 25 years. When i grew up playing Amiga and stuff they already banned violence (think about Doom). Still we dont have stuff like this happening here on a yearly basis (yes i know there was one incident here as well years ago - but that just 1).

Everyone has to understand games or violent movies dont shoot people. People with guns shot other people so the more logical reason would be to ban guns. But America oh well.....

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Comment #241 by DonkeyBong71
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:21:36 AM
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"for appropriate permanent disposal."

on e-bay, no doubt.

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Comment #242 by Lazy_FAQer
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:23:23 AM
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@ 238 & 239 Dark Anaconda; Some of the best & well thought out posts I have ever read on X360A.


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Comment #243 by Gamingnonstop
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:26:12 AM
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The reason for the this is actully the gun laws in the US I they had more strict laws things like this may not even happen as much. I'm not against having a fire arm but if they had better background checks and people who have been convictect or have a bad background should be deniend one

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Comment #244 by Andy78787
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:35:53 AM
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When I see somebody catapulting birds at a pig, then I'll believe that games lead to violence.

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Comment #246 by paul saint
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:44:29 AM
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Just the thought of all those whiney kids losing their copies of cod has put a massive smile on my face loool

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Comment #247 by Onyxflamegod
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:58:25 AM
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Holy shit, they are on to something with this. Let it be known now, lads and ladies. The REAL reason for Jack the Ripper being a serial killer was because he played too much GTA and listened to too much Cannibal Corpse. Yep, old Smiling Jack never would have done any of that killing if not for his MP3 player and his 360 blasting violent things at him all day.

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Comment #249 by Slayinfool
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:50:57 AM
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I like turtles

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Comment #250 by Croc 494
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:51:15 AM
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Just reading this makes me want to get a gun and kill them all and I haven't played any violent video games today. I just can't get over the stupidity, scapegoat a game because it can't argue back and we automatically win. Fuck sake do something real about it Mr "Vote for Change" just fucking ban public guns and have an amnesty over your whole shitty retarded populace and see how many of them accept that their IQ levels are too low to be allowed to own a gun.

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Comment #251 by NFP911
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:56:32 AM
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funny thing i just heard on the news yesterday that gun sales has even increased over the last month in America. Yeah ban games and sell more guns. What is the US up to? They also recently made it illegal to jailbreak your tablet while you can still jailbreak your phone. WTF is up with that country?

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Comment #252 by Tomtam
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 06:47:08 AM
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I wonder if anyone went there and asked for some games to burn, then went home to play them, that's what I would have done. ^^

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Comment #253 by TheEngineer
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:06:49 AM
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Well... I guess the guy at Newtown was the only guy with a copy of GTA IV if he was the only mad shooter there. Also the dude performed matricide and she was innocent, what game made him do that act of unholy act of injustice?

Also I have yet to see a "No Russian" from MW2, so yeah...

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Comment #254 by TEAJUNKIES
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:20:07 AM
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Think it's about time someone set up an awareness program for educating parents about games. The rating on the games just gets ignored. I used to work in Gamestation (RIP) and I was always really strict about who I sold to. I always informed parents and grandparents about the content and if I felt they were been ignorent to what I was informing them about, I simply wouldn't sell them the game. I hate all this crap about blaming games for crime etc so I did what I could. It's about time someone really stood up for games and gamers!

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Comment #255 by F Swan
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:50:07 AM
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Clearly Hitler was addicted to video games and its why he Murdered millions of people ...

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Comment #256 by Opiate42
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:57:15 AM
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Humans and violence....

Pac-Man caused the 100 Years War.... just so everyone is clear on that.

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Comment #257 by ZingZitang
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:02:51 AM
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@ RDrules, and a few other people advocating gun control. Get out of here with your "statistics".

Banning any type of gun is 100% no different than banning any form of media.
By saying we should start banning firearms you are the exact same type of person who started this movement in connecticut To destroy media.

The government should not be able to tell me what i can and cannot purchase to protect my wife or myself.

For the record, I grew up on a farm around guns. Ive shot guns my whole life, coincidentally ive also played "violent" video games for just as long. By your logic, doesnt this mean I should have went on a mass killing spree?

How weird to you must it be that I havent.

I own guns and shoot them to this day. I carry one almost everywhere I go to ensure some wackjob like Adam Lanza does not shoot my friends, or my wife, or anyone else wherever I go.

Why do I do this? Because it is my Second Amendment right to do so. And my responsibilty as a Husband and friend to protect those I care about, it is my responsibility as a Human being in general to care about and protect others.

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Comment #258 by ZingZitang
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:10:34 AM
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"When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually...I ask, who are the militia? They consist of now of the whole people, except a few public officers. But I cannot say who will be the militia of the future day. If that paper on the table gets no alteration, the militia of the future day may not consist of all classes, high and low, and rich and poor..." - George Mason, Virginia Constitution Convention

"To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." – Richard Henry Lee 1788

"When they took the 4th Amendment, I was quiet because I didn't deal drugs.
When they took the 6th Amendment, I was quiet because I am innocent.
When they took the 2nd Amendment, I was quiet because I don't own a gun.
Now they have taken the 1st Amendment, and I can only be quiet."
– Lyle Myhr

Gun control isnt about guns, its about control.
Censoring violent media isnt about the violent media its about the inability to acknolwedge that mental health is a serious issue.

More people are killed in America each year by baseball bats than by guns. Do we ban baseball bats as well?

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Comment #259 by ZingZitang
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:16:41 AM
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@#248 - Croc 494

Make guns illegal and shootings will stop happening?

How funny is it, that shootings are already illegal and they still happen? How funny is it that guns are not allowed(illegal) in schools, yet this is where the majority of shootings happen?

Do you really think a criminal intent on killing someone will give a shit about whether or not guns are illegal?

You are no different than these fools in Connecticut if you think banning guns will magically solve all problems.

Guns are not the problem, violent games are not the problem.

People, parenting, and mental health are the problem.

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Comment #260 by ZingZitang
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:20:19 AM
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@#248 - Croc 494

Also, I grew up in a "hick town"(are you that stupid?), where everyone owns a gun, and most people play games.

Weird then that nobody has gone on a killing spre, or started a movement to destroy violent media.

Sorry for the quadruple posting. Some people really just grind my gears, gun control nuts for instance.

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Comment #261 by PSlocombe
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:22:59 AM
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If I was stateside I'd try to return games like Monsters Vs Aliens, and other really bad games like Prince Caspian. If they want games that incite violence surely these frustrating poor quality games are more likely to incite anger than a game that is of a good quality.
But as usual and like most here suggest it is a knee jerk reaction to a problem that needs to be sorted rather than scape-goated.

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Comment #262 by MrStabby1981
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:57:52 AM
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My crazy old grandfather told me this crazy story about how he and the rest of his generation had to go to war because a psychopath was trying to take over the world and was murdering people in their millions.

Happened before video games, rap music, rock and roll, etc apparently.

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Comment #263 by NFP911
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 09:10:40 AM
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@ZingZitang i totally agree in some parts. I know its impossible to ban guns in your country because its the historical background. Same as you're trying to ban beer in Germany. On the other hand the U.S. had a murder rate of 4.2 while just over the border Canada has a murder rate of 1.6. So tell me why? By your logic this would mean U.S. citiziens are more mental disturbed then Canadians?

now go and compare your murder rate to the ones western europe.

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Comment #264 by NFP911
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 09:12:25 AM
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i dont mean that in a negative way. But tell me why your murder rate is 2.5 times as high as it is in Canada or 4 times as high as in most Western European countries.

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Comment #265 by Skelix
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 09:37:45 AM
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Like some have said blaming guns is like blaming the video game, real blame lies in crazy fucks. Control crazy fucks and you'll prevent the killings.

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Comment #266 by Skelix
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 09:41:49 AM
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@263 I believe a lot of it is demographics, we are the melting pot, also I believe most of our values have eroded to nothing. There's hardly a family unit here anymore and there's little to no respect for people or anyone. It starts at the top with these CEO's pulling in millions while trying to screw the worker out of a nickel. There's no loyalty on either side and that is brought home to the family, if there is one still.

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Comment #267 by Dragon14785
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 09:50:24 AM
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I've been playing violent video games since I was three, starting with the first Mortal Kombat. Since then, I've never felt the urge to throw a spear at someones chest or burn a person alive. As well as that, I read violent books, have a massive film collection and listen to classic rock. None of these have ever affected my behavour in a violent way. People need to start taking responsibilty for their own actions rather then scapegoating popular media!

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Comment #268 by Skid Row Trash
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 10:29:43 AM
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If these losers want to get rid of some seriously violent stuff. Burn all your bibles and destroy the news media, not video games you idiots.

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Comment #269 by RDrules
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 11:21:16 AM
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@257 you miss all points entirely..

taking away firearms wont STOP violent crime that itself is impossible and if a solution existed for it im sure every country and person on the planet would love to hear it

but if you allow people to have access to a tool that was invented with the sole reason to kill then when they do commit violent crimes you are allowing and been aiding them to commit them on a scale much worse than if they dont have access to them

in just this case he would most likely have always committed the act itself but if he didnt have access ad training to a firearm then most if not all the lives lost because he would have had a knife or some other weapon instead of a gun.

Also a document written hundreds of years ago isnt a defence for it, im not going to go into that too deeply but its a historical document written in a different time

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Comment #270 by FeyenoordMike
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 11:43:18 AM
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@ 257
as #269 said the problem lies in the easy access to guns, if it is impossible for people to get a gun there won't be any gun to take to school.
I understand it's impossible to ban guns now but the selling of weapons really should be a lot stricter.
Maybe you know how to shoot a gun and "respect" it, but I think the vast majority doesn't.

It's not just bad parenting, bullies or mental illness that causes these horrible events, I always believed it's all of these things combined that can corrupt the weaker minds among us. This problem occurs everywhere else in the world, but those people usually don’t have the access to a weapon. The problem with the US is in my eyes that these people do have access to guns, whether they buy them themselves or take them from family. I can't believe there are so many people in the US who can't see this because they are to blinded by their "rights". Don’t tell me you also believe: the only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is with a good guy with a gun?

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Comment #271 by Dragonmarked
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 11:58:14 AM
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You are wrong on the Gun standpoint. It's not the registered, LEGALLY OWNING people that go on wild rampages, it's the lawless, the crazy, the ones who can NEVER LEGALLY own a weapon of ANY KIND.

Ever hear of Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini? They "legally" took guns away from their citizens, then committed some of the worst possible crimes against those same citizens.

On the same line of thinking as "Take Away All Guns", why don't we take fertalizer, racing fuel and panel vans off the market... Those are what Timothy McVey used on Oklahoma City, and were used in the FIRST WTC attack, which failed.

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Comment #272 by FeyenoordMike
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:16:22 PM
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@ 271
The purpose of a weapon is to kill,all other items you mentioned have a different purpose. Please stop these idiotic comparisons.
and let's not make this a historical debate, because there are a lot of civilized countries out there where guns are illegal and I don't see the government of those countries commiting crimes against their people.

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Comment #273 by Xenodolf
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:21:21 PM
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Anyone live near this town? Someone should organize a smash and grab operation and rescue these condemned games. I can imagine, besides the run-of-the-mill games like COD or GTA, that some older and rarer titles might end up being destroyed in this moronic frenzy. It pains me.

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Comment #274 by Cinderkin
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:22:48 PM
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@ ZingZintang

You quadruple posting bastard! lol

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Comment #275 by cheevo360
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 12:58:51 PM
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#220 Hehehe. I am not smoking so what I tried said it is should leave violent games alone as they not harm it. Parents and mental people's their faults. Also some games should have some sex like maybe you play as male and female character with full nude and run around shooting stuffs to cover and climb to things and swimming with nude. This is something will be fun and new thing to do in game for adult games only.

You know we alway have violent games, casual, hardcore games etc... so why not have some sex then? Hehehe

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Comment #276 by DannyBeaver07
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 01:13:30 PM
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This argument irritates me, playing games doesnt make you a murdering psychopath...being a wierdo fuckwit makes you a murdering psychopath. i play a silly amount of games, im not violent.

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Comment #277 by YiazmatXII
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:23:47 PM
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Get - A - Fucking - Life

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Comment #278 by Drias
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 02:52:26 PM
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Good Game.

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Comment #279 by freeleeday
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:15:53 PM
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so are they going to destroy the band Foster the People for Pumped Up Kicks?

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Comment #280 by bedroom
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:18:53 PM
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@3 you are a legend

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Comment #281 by Dragonmarked
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 03:50:28 PM
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It's called Get An Education.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

Yes, guns are meant to kill, but there is a serious distinction in who uses them. The person in question here STOLE those weapons from his family, used them to kill his own mother, THEN went on to commit this atrocity.

99.999999% of registered gun owners use them either for hunting or home defense. My family owns several, in multiple households, the prime one being a COP. I'd think I know a thing or two about firearms safety.

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Comment #282 by ColdSpider72
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:10:57 PM
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The nasty American bashing comments need to stop. There is no excuse to be talking like that on a friggin video game achievement website. Insulting an entire countries' population based on shit you read in the news is stupid and ignorant. People making comments in this manner should not be allowed to exist on this site. People who actually believe these problems are only in America and spout off hate filled comments like 'American cunts' need to grow the hell up and get a proper education.

There needs to be a zero tolerance policy for that kind of shit behavior.

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Comment #283 by HalfEVILmonkey
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 04:17:40 PM
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As a U.S. gun-owning person with kids, I play videogames a lot. But assault rifles that are designed for nothing more than murder do not belong. I am sorry, but these kids were 6 or 7 years old, and I can tell you that I shed many tears after hearing what happened. did you know this:

The gunman burst into one room of special education students (who were handicapped) and killed all 14 of the kids and the teacher? Did you also know that while this was happening, the teacher next door hid all of her kids in the cabinets and told them not to move or breathe a word.

The gunman burst into the room and said: "Where are all of the kids."

The teacher answered (and lied): "We filed them all to the auditorium."

Some of the kids heard this and ran out of the cabinets screaming.

The teacher tried to shield them with her own body. Six kids and the teacher died. She saved over 15 kids.

Don't tell me that this is not an assault rifle issue. Assault rifles need to be illegal. He killed six kids and a teacher faster than you can say: "Please don't kill me."


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Comment #284 by Venomized
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:08:01 PM
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You might as well ban the dark knight trilogy while you're at it.

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Comment #285 by ShmedReborn
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:27:17 PM
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Why not throw a couple of books into that dumpster as well? Clearly their logic is already in there.

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Comment #286 by FeyenoordMike
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 05:49:17 PM
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@281 You are the one conparing racing fuel and other "normal" items with guns. which doesn't make any sense. If you bring in hitler for example this becomes a different discussion entirely and I don't see what it has to do with the prpblem of gun control in the US.

I never said that the murderer had a legal permit for the gun, but he stole it from his parents who have. So the problem is atill easy access. As I've said before these lunatics can get gunsso easily because they can borrow/steal it from their family.

I don't understand why you feel the need to state yoyr gun situation. I never said you didn't understand how to handle guns. I merely said that I think most people don't have that control and still own a weapon. The problem I have with the situation is that i simply can't understand why some people won't even admit that guns form a PART of the problem.

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Comment #287 by ZingZitang
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 06:13:18 PM
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@ 283:

Surely you understand that any weapon in a small classroom like that would have been just as deadly. Even a knife.

Surely you understand that any civilian model(read:semi automatic)is little more than a glorified handgun.

This whole "assault rifle" media frenzy is a scare tactic desidned expressly to scare people into thinking they want gun control. Making any weapon illegal will not solve any problems. After all, when did Columbine happen?

Right in the middle of the previous "assault weapon" ban.

And furthermore, making any weapon illegal will not stop violence. Two years ago a man in China Stabbed 22 kindergartners(same age as newtown kids). Yes, he stabbed them. With a knife. Because in China(under a totalitarian, communist regime) people arent allowed to have guns.

And the whole argument "assault rifles are created solely to murder" is completely ridiculous. In America, More people are killed each year with hammers than "assault rifles". More people are killed each year by baseball bats than all guns. These are facts straight from the FBI.

Like I said, this whole "assualt weapon" frenzy is a scare tactic.

"A sword never kills anybody; it is a tool in the killer's hand." – Lucius Annaeus Seneca, c. 4BC - 65AD

A 230 year old document most definately defends an American citizens rights to own firearms.

Do you know the sole purpose the 2nd Amendment was ever even concieved?

Because 230 years ago Right before the Revolutionary War, Great Britain attemped to take guns away from Colonials in order to try and prevent the Revolutionary War. This is the sole purpose the 2nd Amendment exists. Because unarmed Citizens are easy to control, and will not be able to defend themselves.

This is historical fact. Hitler, Stalin, Mousolini, Mao. Even as recent as recently as this very day with Al Assad in Syra. And as far back as the 14th century.

"The people of the various provinces are strictly forbidden to have in their possession any swords, bows, spears, firearms or other types of arms. The possession of these elements makes difficult the collection of taxes and dues, and tends to permit uprising." – Toyotomi Hideyoshi, Japanese Shogun, August 29, 1558

All of these people took guns away from their citizens, expressly so the citizens could not defend themselves.

The 2nd Amendment of a 230 year old document is designed expressly to prevent this from happening. And to keep our extremely corrupt and innefective government in check.

There are solutions to these problems, gun control is not one of them. Banning guns is the exact same sort of thing these fools are doing with violent videogames.

Gun Control isn't about guns, its about Control.

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Comment #288 by 21beb21
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 06:36:57 PM
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I live a few towns over from where THE CLEANSING will take place. Thinking about bringing a couple Madden Gamecube games just to see if I can make a couple bucks.

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Comment #289 by RDrules
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:01:46 PM
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@287, its a document that was written in a time when the country was coming out of a state of turmoil and weapons were not anything like they are today, it has no baring on the realities of modern life.

The world is a completely different place then and there is just no place or need for it in a modern society, I know fine well the history of it but that history while important to remember doesnt mean anything now.

The whole thing was also based upon an English law from our own bill of rights... which is still in force and contains the same right to bare arms... just we dont see that as a reason for it to mean everyone can have guns, theyre regulated and controlled by Parliament now because the world has changed

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Comment #290 by WEBHEAD 7
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 07:12:13 PM
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read the part about what video games the guy liked to. also notice what his mother was an enthusiast of

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Comment #291 by Godfather93a
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:52:30 PM
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@287 I've read at least 95% of the postings on this thread & I have to say you are one of the EXTREMELY few educated people on the gun control debate. I always say ignorance (witch is flourishing in abundance here) is the absence of knowledge. So basically my point is, its nice to see some ray of hope no matter how small is always a welcome sight. Thank you.

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Comment #292 by Grizzlyboy316
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 08:56:53 PM
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Honestly there doing this as a cover up the fact that violence in video games and movies do not cause shootings for example in Japan they have violet video games,movies,and tv shows.It should be blamed on the responsibility of the consumer.Its suppose to be viewed as entertainment.Your Killing artificial intelligence not flesh and bones.They should go after automatic guns and ammo that's what killed the innocent victims not cd disks it was bullets.

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Comment #293 by Phantomzero17
Friday, January 04, 2013 @ 10:04:58 PM
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@19 This is South Carolina "dem people be southerners". So the only book most of these goons have probably even skimmed let alone read is the bible.

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Comment #294 by Diego9
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 12:00:56 AM
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Go watch Penn and Teller show on Video Games its on youtube.

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Comment #295 by Diego9
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 12:00:56 AM
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Go watch Penn and Teller show on Video Games its on youtube.

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Comment #296 by Katarn
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 12:20:06 AM
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Bullshit! If the kid has the game its the parents fault, and it was video games fault. Second its been proven that when kids have no means to act out aggression they hurt people. Meaning videos is an avenue that actual decrease violence

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Comment #297 by CyberPunch83
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 01:10:13 AM
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So.. the town IS using any and all media as a scapegoat for whatever they are doing with these games/movies which they want to see disposed of.

Seriously America, as a Canadian, YOU are why we can't have nice things. Soon as I can, I'm moving to England, far away from you.

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Comment #298 by Kivlov
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 01:30:11 AM
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Oh yeah it makes a lot of sense, because there weren't any psychopaths or mass murderers in the world before the invention of videogames or gunpowder...

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Comment #299 by Mister Spraggsy
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 05:49:50 AM
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@249 Me too!

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Comment #300 by HalfEVILmonkey
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 08:12:21 AM
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@#287: How many of those Chinese kids that were stabbed actually DIED? I will wait...

Not one.

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Comment #301 by Simlaurel
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 08:24:27 AM
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It's funny to read some of the smug comments from Europeans who dismiss all Americans as a bunch of gun-toting, violent hicks. Since we're generalizing here, allow me. These are the same people who go to a soccer game, get completely inebriated, and in large numbers, decide to assault another group of fans because they're cheering for the other team. The same fans who start chants and scream racial epitaphs at players if they're not white.

"Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."

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Comment #302 by XsniperXxxXGODX
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 09:41:41 AM
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300th comment

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Comment #303 by Lordgold
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 11:08:28 AM
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Video games don't kill people, people with guns kill people.

Parents make sure you replace your kids "violent" video games with the 100% violence-free book, the bible.


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Comment #304 by c8nn8r
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 11:36:14 AM
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To comment 301 Guns are the problem in your stupid country. Sort it out. And what has football violence got to do with anything. Entire towns get trashed after hockey games you silly boy. Not all americans are idiots but you are

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Comment #305 by Simlaurel
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 12:25:41 PM
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@304..Obviously you didn't understand my comment when I said there are a lot of blanket generalizations being made about Americans based on what some nutjob in Connecticut did. Can I conclude then that all Europeans are racist because of what a few people yell at a soccer game? Obviously not.

Also. the fact that you open your comment stating America is "stupid" then procede to personally attack me by calling me an "idiot" does your entire comment a disservice.

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Comment #306 by Tai_MT
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 12:40:07 PM
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If you make guns illegal, only criminals will have them. Ever notice that it's always a REGULAR CITIZEN WITH A GUN who puts down the crazed gunmen? It's not hard to get a gun if you don't care about doing it illegally. Look at all the crime syndacates that do it regularly. Look at all the gangs who have them.

All gun laws ever do is take guns out of the hands of law-abiding citizens, as if they were the ones who were causing the problems. Shouldn't we be more concerned with getting guns out of the hands of CRIMINALS?

Making a crime illegal doesn't make it go away. It just makes it illegal.

Or... am I the only person on the planet that remembers what happened during the Prohabition Era, when all forms of alcohol were made illegal? Illicit drugs are illegal, doesn't seem to stop people from getting their hands on them.

Getting rid of guns only gets rid of them for people who want to obey the law. For those who are screwed in the head... Well, it's not even a minor annoyance. Though, it does make it a LOT easier to shoot unarmed people.

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Comment #307 by A Wise Moose
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 01:49:55 PM
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I hope they have fun wasting their time. We all know some games can make us angry, but I can GUARANTEE that nobody on this site has shot anyone IRL because they got mad. What they need to do is take better care of the people that are mentally ill. I heard that this guy played Starcraft and Warcraft. Neither of which are violent. They are strategy based. He stayed inside and played video games all day. He was mentally ill because he had little human interaction, and he shut himself in. They have the COMPLETELY wrong idea here.

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Comment #308 by RDrules
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 02:14:29 PM
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@306 If you enforce the law well enough it actually does lower the problem considerably

no one can be naive enough to believe that you can lower any crime rate to 0 someone with will enough will always find a way around them but people should always be striving to make it as hard as possible for the criminals and all evidence from cases around the world points towards the fact that controlling guns lowers gun crime.

in the UK an incident just like this happened in 1996, 16 children and a teacher were shot to death in Dunblane, that is what forced us to bring in the strict legislation we have now on it - handguns and automatic weapons were banned completely as heres no real reason for a normal member of the public to own one at all and the weapons not banned were subject to masses of checks, paper work and a need for references in order for you to own one (yes guns are not completely illegal in the UK either but ill get to that)

and that has lead to a massive drop in gun related crimes as it has made it very difficult to get hold of them, mass shootings are almost none existent of course its not 0 because that simply isnt possible but the interesting part with the mass shootings that have happened over recent years is that most if not all have still been by people that either own them legally or have gotten them from someone that owned them legally.

Another example since i dont want it too just seem like UK Vs US as thats not my intention at all Australia around the same time in Port Arthur 35 people were shot dead in the biggest mass killing they had ever seen, they again banned all auto and semi auto weapons along with shotguns. 700 000 weapons were refunded and destroyed in the few years that followed and again it resulted in an almost immediate drop in gun related killings by 59% and there hasent been a mass shooting in the country since

and Australia's political climate isnt that dissimilar to the us, the fact is it does work, it has been proven time and time again if you take guns out of the hands of the people gun crime falls.

finally ill leave you with quotes from a legislator at the time of the British policy change and from the Australian PM that implemented theirs (mainly because the other guys ancient wartime quotes annoy me so want to use some good modern ones)

"To use a gun is not a right, To take proper steps to avoid the disastrous misuse of guns is a duty of government and of every sensible citizen." - Alex Carlisle

"The Second Amendment, crafted in the immediate post-revolutionary years, is more than 200 years old and was designed to protect the right of local communities to raise and maintain militia for use against external threats (including the newly formed national government!). It bears no relationship at all to the circumstances of everyday life in America today. Yet there is a near religious fervour about protecting the right of Americans to have their guns — and plenty of them." - John Howard

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Comment #309 by fodbod
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 03:04:09 PM
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Comment #310 by McKillaboy
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 05:55:24 PM
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They should have shipped that container to me.

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Comment #311 by HalfEVILmonkey
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 08:32:38 PM
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@#287: That is what I thought.

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Comment #312 by DarkJediRPM
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 09:55:34 PM
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They're forgetting to collect comic books and heavy metal music cd's!!

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Comment #313 by asilent boom
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 10:09:38 PM
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@306 "Ever notice that it's always a REGULAR CITIZEN WITH A GUN who puts down the crazed gunmen?"

Lol, that's not even close to being true. A lot of gunmen kill themselves when they are finally cornered.

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Comment #314 by smacd
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 11:26:43 PM
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The gunman at the mall in Oregon killed himself when cornered... by a civilian citizen with a concealed carry permit. Of course, the news media didn't report about THAT fact. The citizen with the carry permit chose not to take a shot due to the possibility of hitting innocents if he missed. The gunman killed himself long before cops showed up, and the unarmed mall "security" was less than useful.

Personally, I think that all citizens without criminal records and mental disabilities should be required to be trained with firearm use and be armed at all times in public. Crime rates would plummet when the criminals know everyone is else is armed. Most of these mass murders have been happening in "no gun zones" where the criminals know they will meet very little resistance from law-abiding citizens. Of course, criminals by definition will not be following the law. I know I sure as hell will not be a sitting duck for these psychopaths. If you gun grabbing fascists want my guns, just come and take them- I dare you.

And I'm shocked by all you hypocrites who are so anti-gun, with tons of FPS games on your gamercards. Your attitudes show just how uneducated you are about firearms.

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Comment #315 by smacd
Saturday, January 05, 2013 @ 11:32:59 PM
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You know what they say- when seconds matter, the police are minutes away.

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Comment #316 by asilent boom
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 02:20:37 AM
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@314 The guy said crazed gunmen were "ALWAYS" stopped by gun toting civilians, that is not true. Mentioning one case of a gunmen being stopped by a civilian does not mean that's the answer, especially when people still died in that shooting. The Aurora, Colorado theatre shooter was taken into custody by the cops. The Sandy Hook Elemantary shooter killed himself. The gunmen who shot Congresswoman Giffords, etc... There's many instances where the crazed gunmen wasn't stopped by a civilain with a gun.

Also, you might want to look at the last time Australia had a mass shooting in the 1990's and the laws they've passed on guns since then and the fact they've had zero mass shootings since like #303 points.

Also, I'm not anti-gun, I support the second amendment and am a gun owner, but I also realize that amendment was wrote in the 1700's when you could fire 1 shot a minute if you were really good at reloading... with a musket.

Banning guns is NOT the answer, nor is arming everyone. This is a huge problem that will not be solved by doing one thing. Mental health issues need to be addressed, how easy accessible fire arms needs to be addressed. A person on the terrorist watch list can legally buy a gun in the USA, that to me seems ridiculous. There's so many things that need to be done but thinking a one pronged attack solves everythings isn't realistic. I'm not trying to sit here and say I know the answer, no one does, but arming everyone won't actually work out like you think, you can't predict human behaviour.

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Comment #317 by smacd
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 02:36:39 AM
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@313 I realized you didn't say it never is solved by an armed civilian, but the fact is that it does happen, and far more of these cases would be as well if they weren't happening in places where law-abiding citizens were arbitrarily disarmed by the government. Most of my post wasn't directed at you, btw.

One thing you may want to look at, is just how many potential crimes are stopped in America just by the fact that the potential victim or someone else nearby was armed and just displayed the weapon. Granted, these are virtually never news stories, and many more incidents are never reported.

I agree, you can't predict human behavior. But what you can predict is that a law abiding citizen will disarm when the law tells them to, and a criminal will not if they have the intent to commit a crime. "Gun Free zones", like most schools, are places where people with criminal intent KNOW they have a group that simply cannot effectively fight back.

I posted some time ago, and do believe that it has nothing to do with the games or guns at all, it is solely an issue that the mental health system is a mess in the United States. We've made up so many mental disorders, and put them on magic pills and leave them to do whatever. Because its the politically correct thing to do. Just because a person has a mental disorder doesn't make them dangerous, BUT it is very difficult to do anything about the people with disorders that are dangerous, before they do something.

It really just torques me that every time something like this happens, the totalitarians immediately jump toward finding scapegoats and trying to limit our rights, rather than addressing the real problem.

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Comment #318 by infinyte112
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 03:01:04 AM
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I agree that those people destroying the games are misled, but can people stop blaming the Bible? I am a Christian and a gamer that plays violent video games. I love Gears, Halo, Black Ops II... I haven't done anything that could be construed as violent and aggressive.

Anyways, my point is, you people should not retaliate by saying Bibles should be burned/destroyed. By doing so, you are falling to the same level as those people who blame games. I don't care about thumbs up or down. Do your worst or agree with me.

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Comment #319 by WackyCactus
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 07:17:25 AM
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Here is what I'm what I'm actually reading when I see and hear people doing crazy stuff like this. Increased video game sales for the company's that make the games. I mean, let's say you purchase a $60.00 game, then go out and burn it for a gift certificate for a Redbox rental or whatever the gift certificate is for. The beneficiary is the video game game, and the company for which the gift certificate was bought from. It's a win win... Now the people that organize this make me want to go and play some Bad Company 2 right now and shoot the shit out of some peeps. Maybe run some goons over with my M1 Abrams, or gut someone with my knife. All in all, a good day!

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Comment #320 by UberPirateNinja
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 08:29:51 AM
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Comments...comments everywhere.

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Comment #321 by asilent boom
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 10:51:21 AM
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@317 While arming civilians sounds great, it wouldn't work out like you think it would. There would still be crime, it doesn't solve the problems of criminals having guns or stopping crazed gunmen from shooting people. It sounds nice on paper but it just wouldn't work that way.

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Comment #322 by RDrules
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 11:06:01 AM
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@314 im not anti gun at all, i just think that they are a dangerous object to just allow people to have with very little forethought whatsoever, im also not for banning them altogether, in the hands of a trained professional such as a soldier they are needed.

I wouldnt even have a problem without police carrying them if they were trained well enough in their use.

I just think that what people can get their hands on in the Us needs a serious look at without the government even thinking about the second amendment, stringent checks are needed, not just on mental well being and criminal history but also on what they need it for in the first place, who else might have access too them, how they will be stored and kept etc.

This case is a great example of why they need such measures in place the man here had a serious mental health issue and wasent allowed a gun of his own but why was his mother when he would be easily able to access it, why was he even allowed to use it in public at shooting ranges without someone removing it from them, why was she allowed something so powerful in the first place.

you cant ban them completely because there are people that use them for very good reasons even in the UK where restrictions are really tight people are allowed to own and use guns they are just subject to checks that attempt to ensure that they are safe to use them and have a good reason to do so.

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Comment #323 by Nin10domyk
Sunday, January 06, 2013 @ 08:20:24 PM
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There's a rating system for a reason people. Stop blaming video games for the reason of school shootings! Blame the parents who allow kids to play M-Rated games. When are parents going to realize that video games aren't just a kid market anymore? You wouldn't let your kid see an R-Rated movie right? So why would you let your kid play a M-Rated game if they can't take the violence seriously? IF YOU SHOOT SOMEONE IN REAL LIFE, IT'S GOING TO HURT!

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Comment #324 by Timmsy
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 08:01:30 AM
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president obama told these retards what the problem is, it is not video games as video games are sold all over the world, it is only the US that has this problem as they make firearms legal to own the retards!

we dont have this level of gun crime as we dont allow guns!

the americans need to look at themselves not at the world as a scapegoat as usual

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Comment #325 by Timmsy
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 08:06:16 AM
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in the uk people are only alowed single shot rifles and shotguns for hunting,

so if we wanted to do a massacre we would need a long time to pull it off

i dont see why americans need to be allowed to fire assault rifles with 10 bullets a second while the UK only need to be allowed a single shot as you can only kill one animal at a time anyway.

no point anyone else discussing it as its jsut the americans with the problem, and it is only them that need to sort it out.

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Comment #326 by thisispreston
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 08:19:46 AM
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314 - "Personally, I think that all citizens without criminal records and mental disabilities should be required to be trained with firearm use and be armed at all times in public"
right, i've read this over several times, and this has to be a joke. there is no way, on earth, you can be serious right?

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Comment #327 by Dragon14785
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 09:46:51 AM
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After doing a web search I have discovered that the enemy of the gamer ex-lawyer Jack Thompson is behind this modern day rendition of a book burning. Even after becoming the laughing stock of the Justice Department, he is still causing trouble for the average gamer by basically forming a lynch mob and coming to false conclusions about the role video games play in the violence of the world.

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Comment #328 by CompanyOfWolves
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 04:05:48 PM
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"Rather, SouthingtonSOS is saying is that there is ample evidence that violent video games, along with violent media of all kinds, including TV and movies portraying story after story showing a continuous stream of violence and killing, has contributed to increasing aggressiveness, fear, anxiety and is desensitizing our children to acts of violence including bullying."

Couple of things here:

1) More interest in the 'cause' of bullying than the effects of it on the victim. This attitude to bullying is even more harmful to the victim as the focus is on the bully.

2) 'Ample evidence'... yeah. It's funny how most research tends to support the view points of whoever funds it. Cigarette companies, for instance, still produce research which shows evidence of there being no link between smoking and lung cancer. They used to even sport 'evidence' which claimed it helped promote a healthy regulatory system. Horror comics were once 'proven' to harm the innocent and the less said about the illegal (yes, illegal) persecution of horror films in the UK (the so-called 'Video Nasties') by the religious, 'moral' the better.

3) If there is, indeed, a connection between violent media and violent actions then there is one simple solution. Don’t burn things (which could be seen as an act of violence itself - you hate something…. BURN IT!), just stick on a few, wholesome Disney movies because if violent media causes the problem then surely some Enchanted and Toy Story will fix things. Isn’t that how it works?

Sorry for the long post. I’ve spent years doing academic work on such topics and it really gets me angry that we’re still ‘burning witches’ rather than dealing with problems.

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Comment #329 by Hoebagger
Monday, January 07, 2013 @ 04:29:52 PM
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How much are they giving you for them? I bet they pay more than gamestop.

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Comment #330 by The Dark Fenix
Wednesday, January 09, 2013 @ 02:50:46 AM
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This really gets to me, its not games that make people like they are, these people would go out and do random acts even without playing GTA4. Christ I have been playing violent video games for years, and watching violent movies way before that, but I dont feel the need to go out and kill a load of people. I suffer from bipolar disorder as well and still when at my most depressed stage I dont try and hurt people, its sad that this group are going out burning and destroying creative works, didnt the nazi's do something similar.

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Comment #331 by The Dukenator
Friday, January 11, 2013 @ 03:20:41 AM
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The town later scraps the idea.

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