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Lack of Bids for Darksiders Dev Vigil Games "a Travesty," Says THQ President
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THQ President Jason Rubin has called the lack of bids for Darksiders developer Vigil Games “a travesty.”

Rubin said that despite a “herculean effort,” the publisher was not able to generate any interest from buyers at its recent auction, something he believes may have been down to the fact that Vigil was so far from releasing its next game, Crawler.

“Having just finished a product, Vigil was farthest from release of their next game, and we were not able to garner any interest from buyers, despite a herculean effort,” said Rubin.

“Additionally, they were working on a new IP, which meant even more risk for a buyer."

“The best example of this is Vigil’s title, codenamed Crawler,” he added. “When the teams got together recently to show each other their titles, Crawler dropped the most jaws. It is a fantastic idea, and truly unique. The fact that nobody bid for the team and title is a travesty. It makes no sense to me.

“If I weren’t barred from bidding as an insider, I would have been there with my chequebook. I’m sure that’s little consolation to the team, but that’s a fact.”

Vigil Games lead combat designer Ben Cureton also made reference to Crawler, in his much published open letter to fans.

“I knew, without a shadow of the doubt, that the project we were working on (Codenamed: Crawler) was going to blow people away,” he wrote. 

“In fact, it DID blow people away. We did, in TWO months, what many companies haven't done in a year. The pride of knowing that no one was doing anything like us was so satisfying, it kept us coming to work and giving 100% every single day, even through the dark times.”

You can find more on the fallout from the THQ auction here.

[via GI]


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Comment #1 by tasteslikepain
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 05:57:57 AM
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Darksiders was a game that wouldve been considered good on PS2 or Xbox but this generation? Nah such a "meh" game

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Comment #2 by Dasha UK
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:02:50 AM
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@1 you are wrong sir...

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Comment #3 by ILLMUSICK
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:04:45 AM
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i played Darksiders 2 didnt really see all the hype found the game rather boring and slow IMO

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Comment #4 by Infection Ftw
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:05:43 AM
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@1 many people don't share your opinion. I loved Darksiders and I enjoyed the 2nd as well.

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Comment #5 by Qoncrete
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:07:19 AM
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Darksiders I & II are both awesome! Period.

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Comment #6 by UberPirateNinja
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:07:48 AM
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Preferred DS to DS2 myself, but still immensely enjoyed both games. Such a shame no one has picked them up.

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Comment #7 by ThousandLegs01
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:08:42 AM
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hows about every fan of the games gives them $10 we could buy them =p

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Comment #8 by LeeBradley [STAFF]
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:09:22 AM
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I wasn't overjoyed by Darksiders II, but Vigil is a great outfit and the ideas they had for the future of the series was ace. Plus, y'know, it's sad when good people lose their jobs.

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Comment #9 by Caramel Cardinal
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:09:50 AM
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if they have enough money to finish there next game the in bid £1, if not then i'm out, perhaps they should go on dragons den :D

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Comment #10 by Tsaako
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:10:20 AM
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The comment section from the main home page is stupid. Just show's how ignorant people are when they dislike a persons post just by giving his / her own opinion.

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Comment #11 by zombieash
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:11:21 AM
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i loved the first few hours of both darksiders games but they got repetitive really quickly. hate to see people lose their jobs but they are talented people and should be able to find work elsewhere. platinum was interested in their talent so fingers crossed for them.

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Comment #12 by House atlantic
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:13:12 AM
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i liked both darksiders n couldnt have seen this coming i thought someone would snap them up. fair enough they are just starting on a new project and dont have much to show off to potential buyers but i still thought someone would throw them a life line. darksiders 2 didnt sell well i suppose...

platinum should buy em!

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Comment #13 by GodsmacKam
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:15:03 AM
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If you don't like Darksiders fine, but what has your opinion (on degrading the game) got anything to do here?
Why not write something more appropriate related to the article?
For those of us who loved the franchise (i.e. Myself included) I am absolutely astonished no-one has bidded for the shows in this day and age all people care about are sales and business (which is obviously necessary but the borderlines compared to a few years ago are too high) and playing Darksiders was such a refreshing, massive boss battles, artstyle, combat, puzzle solving game like zelda ...
At least if the franschise goes down (which I hope it won't) I can honestly say I was one of the few who had the privelege to play such an awesome game

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Comment #14 by zombieash
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:15:27 AM
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if crawler was so mind blowing why not show a little to the public and maybe get a kickstarter going or something. if they believe in the product why not try anything to make it a reality.

but then again it may be a licensing issue now.

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Comment #15 by DecadentBeaver
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:16:34 AM
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Im curious about their Crawler project now. Would love to know what they were planning to do? Still a crying shame for Vigil. I'm not a massive fan of Darksiders, but the games have a big fan base from all the support I've seen on here. Which is only a good thing. Hope they can get a buyer and soon.

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Comment #16 by Yo menus1
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:18:49 AM
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@1 Calling Darksiders a ¨meh¨ game is okay. It's your own opinion, but i like to call CoD a ¨meh¨ game but it still tops the charts year after year. I also felt that Homefront was a ¨meh¨game. But i find joy in games even i they don't have top notch graphics, a bug here and there. Nothing is perfect.

Darksiders has an very interesting story and the gameplay is good. It is sad to see that so many people can't see the charm about Darksiders. But i can and i love the franchise. I hope some buys Vigil Games and saves Darksiders.

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Comment #17 by LeeBradley [STAFF]
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:21:57 AM
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@ 14

I'd suggest that Crawler was in far too early a state to show off to the public. It may have had some concept art, a design document and maybe some very very basic animation work, but that's it. Enough for a fellow developer to appreciate, but not enough for your average punter.

As for the Kickstarter thing, legal issues aside, Crawler would have cost a shitload to make. Too much for a successful Kickstarter campaign.

Some other outlets are guessing that Crawler was Darksiders III. I wonder if there's any truth to it?

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Comment #18 by The Bum-Mobile
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:22:28 AM
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It is a colossal shame; the two Darksiders games were both amazing...

Though apparently, there's still hope. There's unofficial talk that Platinum games will absorb the Vigil team and the IP. Just talk, but hopefully we get our third Darksiders.

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Comment #19 by Chewit
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:35:30 AM
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@1 i agree, i couldn't stand Darksiders. Yet to give the 2nd one a shot but i'm not expecting much.

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Comment #20 by zombieash
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:36:22 AM
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yeah you have a point there.
The idea of darksiders 3 being coop put me off a little because of the way the first 2 are. It just doesn't feel like it would fit. the gameplay would have had to be very different for it to work so may not have really felt like a darksiders game anyway.

but i geuss darksiders is more about the lore and art design than anything else.

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Comment #21 by Aussie27Legend
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:49:02 AM
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It does suck, Vigil never seems to get rewarded for the great work they do. I hope the rumors of Platnium being interested is true, the combat could use a bit of a boost

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Comment #22 by macd
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 06:56:44 AM
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Perhaps I shouldn't get on my high horse here as I didn't buy Darksiders 2 (yet) but Darksiders was a great game, and if my backlog wasn't so massive I'd have got Darksiders 2. I'm amazed no one put in a bid, not even a rock bottom price looking for a bargain.

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Comment #23 by Earth Djinn
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:00:22 AM
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I'm really interested to know more about 'Crawler'. I hope that we find out more about it one way or another, whether by it eventually being released, or just having info leaked.

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Comment #24 by UKHC1977
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:01:46 AM
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@20 Could have gone in an interesting way with 4 player co op as the four horsemen of the apocalypse if they did it like that.

Really do hope Platinum pick them up. Would be interesting to what would come out of any colaboration with them two.

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Comment #25 by Kinky Mong
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:07:01 AM
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You're only as good as your last game, and unfortunately for Vigil Darksiders 2 was pretty dull and a disappointment compared to the excellent first game.

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Comment #26 by Agent Mantis
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:11:36 AM
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I couldn't get past how stupid the central characters looked in darksiders, especially Death, super lame.

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Comment #27 by Tsukasa117
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:35:17 AM
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I love the excuse alot of people have 'DS2 didnt look pretty' have you seen the plethora of titles that aren't beautiful and made waves. This is a complete shame Vigil even being constantly ham stringed by THQ was a better studio then alot of others at least they took pride in there work.

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Comment #28 by munchmagic 86
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:52:08 AM
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@17 It may be the case, I read somewhere that the guy also said that "Darksiders 3 4 player co op rode off into the sunset today". I doubt that given their financials they were working on 2 big titles at the same time. Hopefully someone makes a late save, enjoyed their work

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Comment #29 by chrishaney23
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:55:45 AM
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I dont get the co-op hate? Wheres the problem? You couldnt have splitscreen but at least 2 players in the game at once would be awesome. There could be more enemies at once, basically bigger fight sequences, and puzzles that the 2 players would have to be in 2 different locations at once to solve etc etc. I think it would've been great. Anyone who played D2 would've loved some help in some areas. The dungeon with the lava for example where the room closes and theres lava pouring out the ceiling and like 10 enemies at once and then 2 giant constructs running like hell at you. Woulda welcomed help, on playthrough #1, playthrough 2 after upgraded weapons was a breeze, but you get my points.

Someone will buy the rights to the game I think. They are just waiting til the last minute to get it dirt cheap. There will be a D3. As long as Platinum doesnt buy it and then (get) low balled over to a Nintendo exclusive (I know what happened but i dont care what the story is or how it happened, I will always be pissed over the Bayonetta 2 thing).

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Comment #30 by Croc 494
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:57:22 AM
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THis makes me cry a little bit, THQ made such a vast and amazing world with such incredible characters and story and now it will never have an ending. Much sadness :(

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Comment #31 by DragonessAthena
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 08:12:03 AM
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Darksiders was an awesome series. I don't get how a bad game like Homefront, which was a financial failure, could be sold and yet Darksiders, both games being commercial successes (yes, they were disappointed with DS2 sales but they were hoping it would save their company, they still sold a ton of copies).

And no, I don't want Platinum buying the series. Bayonetta was also a bad game that failed (why do you think there was no sequel until Nintendo bought it?), and I'd rather not have a sexed up Fury be the main character in the next Darksiders, which would happen if Platinum got their hands on it.

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Comment #32 by Opiate42
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 08:24:36 AM
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Now that the bidding is over, why can't this dude open up that checkbook?

THQ is sunk, and Vigil is flatlining, he is no longer in the "insider" position. Or is he?

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Comment #33 by Judge Bergan
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 08:33:58 AM
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@32 - THQ front office staff is still employeed while they close everything out and transition everything, he is still getting his check from THQ as of this moment.

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Comment #34 by AndrewC
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 08:43:04 AM
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Vigil are a talented bunch, but Darksiders 2 was a bad game.

Given all the areas they SHOULD have brushed up on from Darksiders, what they basically did was go: "have some big bland environments, some loot, a main character who can't decide what he should sound like and a really vague attempt at saving his brother by throwing in some crappy un-enthusiastic evil force."

It's a shame to see studios go down the tubes, but I was horrifically disappointed by Darksiders 2. (Admittedly, corrupt angels were cool.)

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Comment #35 by TheBajan
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 09:08:16 AM
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Santa Monica Studios tweeted THQ yesterday saying that they are hiring.

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Comment #36 by Slim Shady
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 09:27:15 AM
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I loved darksiders 1&2. It's a damn shame that the series died. On a side note why doesn't Xbox have more Zelda/metroid/darksiders-style games????

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Comment #37 by sm182
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 09:40:50 AM
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It's just a shame they locked the best part of DS2 behind an online pass.

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Comment #38 by Andreas_loel
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 09:46:02 AM
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4 player DS3 Would had been preorder worthy, another a-rpg that i will never play.

The fucking game industry is a shithole

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Comment #39 by Pyrochaos
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 10:36:27 AM
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Because shooters make the most money.

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Comment #40 by Talos26
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 10:40:40 AM
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@38 Yes, the game industry is a shithole, but it's been made that way by "gamers" who buy the yearly iterations of the same game. If ten percent of those people bought a game from a smaller studio like THQ, then maybe THQ wouldn't have gone out of business.

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Comment #41 by Ingen Kommentar
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 11:12:27 AM
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Darksiders 1 +2 is still some of the greatest games i've played on the 360.. it is a tragedy if there wont more a 3 and 4... :(

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Comment #42 by TheBajan
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 01:51:28 PM
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@40 Actually if THQ hadn't spent so much money on bringing the UDraw to 360 and PS3, thy would have been in a better state. Also THQ is not a smaller studio

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Comment #43 by bLaKgRaVy
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 03:25:56 PM
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Now would be the perfect time to run a sale on ALL THQ DLC... :)

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Comment #44 by Symbiote Venom
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 04:17:02 PM
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Hopefully Platinum games picks them up

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Comment #45 by dementedlullaby
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 04:28:56 PM
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I'm really going to miss THQ. They took more chances than other companies and I respected them for that. Really sad Vigil is officially finished. I thought they were off to a great start with Darksiders series.

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Comment #46 by Hoborg
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 04:49:26 PM
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So does this mean no more Darksiders? Good, such an overrated franchise.

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Comment #47 by infinyte112
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:44:18 PM
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@46, Darksiders is not overrated, it's underrated. It's a good game, far from the best, but it should have been more successful.

And how dare you say "Good"? People at Vigil have lost their jobs, gamers have less choice in the market, it's a lose-lose situation.

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Comment #48 by Hoborg
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 07:51:15 PM
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It's good because it's one less overhyped game I have to listen to fans praise.

Also, this game was turning to co-op. How is that not the biggest sell out of all time? Might as well add some team deathmatch while you're at it. And multiplayer achievements.

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Comment #49 by The Kingslayer
Friday, January 25, 2013 @ 08:25:51 PM
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Well perhaps they should have shelfed Crawler and went ahead with Darksiders 3 first to entice buyers.

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Comment #50 by Gnort
Saturday, January 26, 2013 @ 01:49:49 AM
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I loved Darksiders and am very sad to see that nobody picked up Vigil. However, here's a hard fact to ignore - despite people being apparently "blown away" by Crawler when they saw it, nobody put in even a lowball bid for it. Take 2 bid $10m for Turtle Rock's new, unproven IP "Evolve" when they saw it, so I don't know how accurate it is to blame publishers not wanting to take chances.

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Comment #51 by LeviXLush
Saturday, January 26, 2013 @ 01:50:08 PM
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@1 I concur. Only getting thumbs down from all the fanboys. That's all, folks!

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Comment #52 by Tortle
Saturday, January 26, 2013 @ 07:43:13 PM
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Honestly if they have a new IP Microsoft should be all over them not only is Dark Siders a great franchise but Microsoft has a small list of good exclusives and sadly most of the exclusives are dying such as Gears and Halo both of which are great games but have each seen better days.

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Comment #53 by singhellotaku617
Saturday, January 26, 2013 @ 07:50:41 PM
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Meh, they wont be missed

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Comment #54 by entyjc
Monday, January 28, 2013 @ 12:04:24 PM
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i love both games and hope they do find a buyer an go on to make DS3 and DS4 as the games seem to be getting better as they progress.i have enjoyed a number of THQ games but darksiders are byfar the best.

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Comment #55 by SeKour
Tuesday, March 05, 2013 @ 01:20:27 PM
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Hello community,

Just joined, and feel the overwhelming need to comment on the Vigil 'travesty': 1) I'm truly interested in Comment#7's idea of the public that supports Vigil to attempt to purchase it themselves... my chequebook is ready (alot of legal logistics to work out, but I'm willing), and; 2) Comment#16... you are so correct... COD!!! What a microwaved piece of pop-culture lack-of-ingenuity: "shoot man, run... yay!! and award winner!"
Darksiders was (hopefully will continue to be) a great story, putting a twist on biblical events and concepts that had never been done before. These writers and artist deserve to continue on with their ideas, and not be shunned or overlooked in a world that is increasingly becoming less focused on the art of interactive cinema (my term for well made and expansive next-gen video games), and more concerned with how many spoiled kids will buy the next cool thing that's pitched to them - even if that "cool thing" is less than hot, and not cool at all, just luke-warm.
Respect to Vigil... I'll remain 'viligant'; to the Vigil team:
Draft a serious and legally sound way in which your supporters can rekindle your studio, and I'll personally campaign to assist in getting that going.
SeKour Cage,
Project Manager

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