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Xbox One's Internal Hard Drive Can't Be Replaced
Written Wednesday, May 22, 2013 By Richard Walker
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Answering another of the many lingering questions surrounding Xbox One, Microsoft has confirmed that the console's integrated 500GB hard drive cannot be removed and replaced by users like the Xbox 360 HDD before it.

Engadget writes that “hard drives in the Xbox One are non-user-serviceable.” However, Microsoft's Senior Director of Product Planning Albert Penello has since confirmed that you'll be able to bolster your storage with an external hard drive connected to one of Xbox One's USB 3.0 ports.

A hard drive connected to one of Xbox One's USB 3.0 ports "can be used for everything the internal storage can be used for,” according to Penello, which means things like downloads and installs can be stored on an additional storage device.

As well as boasting a 500GB hard drive, Xbox One also is packing 8GB of RAM, an 8-Core CPU, a Blu-Ray drive, HDMI in and out ports, USB 3.0, 802.11n wireless and billions of transistors, which make using it really fast and seamless, apparently.

[Via IGN | Thanks, DJSamBob]


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Comment #1 by XxStuartxX 1990
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:12:16 AM
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And the bad news just keeps on coming.

This is so when they release one with a bigger HD you have to buy the new console rather than just upgrading the HD like I have done this gen.

M$ are making the same mistake Sony made coming into this gen, they thought they were untouchable.

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Comment #2 by TheBrute1997
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:12:47 AM
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What if the internal hard drive dies? That would kill the machine. I think the original Xbox had that problem.

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Comment #3 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:12:47 AM
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... so they gave us a crappy small HDD and then sell us more external ones extra... nice this just gets better

that better at least include being able to use 3rd arty externals

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Comment #5 by KingLouis51
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:13:09 AM
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That's fine, a 1 terabyte external hard drive is only like £60.

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Comment #6 by yunseop1
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:13:09 AM
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Pshh 500 GB is enough for me

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Comment #7 by falcos
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:13:36 AM
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Seems fine to me since its cloud should be that much of an issue just hope cost of the One is not to high. other wise Pc gaming is just better way to go.

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Comment #8 by UberPirateNinja
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:14:07 AM
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500GB doesn't seem like a lot, that'll fill up faster than a fatty at a free cake shop.

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Comment #9 by zeroy042
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:16:47 AM
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Not sure how I feel about this whole XBOX one. Ill probably go back to PC. You can mod games and play on servers of your choice. AND once I buy a game, even if I buy a new PC, I can still play my old games on my new system.

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Comment #10 by Steakslave
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:18:57 AM
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It will fill up with mandatory installs for games. I'm cool with external storage as well. Anybody catch how many USB ports this will have?

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Comment #11 by UltimateAuron32
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:18:59 AM
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@6 you do realize that Blu-Ray has a capacity of almost 50GB right? and after the usual system space it takes you'll only get about 16-17 games on it, and you HAVE to install them. 500 GB is not much these days, not when you consider how cheap a Terra Byte HDD is...

really tempting to switch BACK to sony, at least with my PS3 i can shove a Terra Byte HDD in there and Sony dont care about it.

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Comment #12 by crabbycrabcrab
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:22:13 AM
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Mircosoft are being really controlling with this. No thanks. I'll keep using the 360 until its not longer supported and hopefully by then Microsoft would see the light with the xbox one and change a few of it mistakes in a series of updates.

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Comment #14 by creaper210
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:26:15 AM
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WOW!? Seriously? They have the nerve to do this, right after telling us that games on a 50 GB dual layer blu ray discs are forced installs? REALLY!?

I mean... this is so disappointing. I've been a LONG time Xbox fan. And I thought me getting this console was a solid buy. but it's as if they're pushing me away. Begging me to go for a PS4 instead.

I guess I COULD go external hard drive path, but I don't really want to. My entertainment center isn't really set up for this. I have 5 consoles, plus my cable box and all my accessories here. That would just be an inconvenience.

Well, if you like watching tv, go buy an Xbox One. Otherwise, a PS4 seems the better choice now.

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Comment #15 by Lazy_FAQer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:28:20 AM
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@ everyone buying a PS4; Enjoy your imaginary console:P

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Comment #16 by XxStuartxX 1990
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:28:31 AM
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@5 thats if they don't do what Sony did with the Vita and make it only accept licensed Memory cards.

At about £50 for 32GB.

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Comment #17 by XxStuartxX 1990
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:29:37 AM
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Enjoy your VCR

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Comment #18 by waterhead71
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:30:26 AM
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I would like to just see games. I'm on the fence still. I'll hold my judgement until after E3.

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Comment #19 by DJSambob
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:30:42 AM
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Just as long as there's no restrictions for the amount of external storage you cab use, I don't really mind too much.. external hard drives are pretty cheap.

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Comment #20 by iBuzz7S
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:31:23 AM
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LOLOLOLOL!!! This was a joke, right? The same joke where Microsoft said non-Slim HDDs won't work in the Slim console?

This is simply a way to discourage people from trying for themselves, but we all know there will be a cheaper alternative. They'd rather you spend $400 on their official product and not $100 for the exact same HDD which does not have their seal of approval on.

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Comment #21 by Richie82 [STAFF]
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:31:35 AM
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I can't imagine Xbox One will require you to install the entirety of a 50GB Blu-ray disc. It'll probably download a portion like Xbox 360 does now when you install a game, or something similar. I could be wrong, but that would seem like the logical thing to do.

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Comment #22 by Bistric
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:31:51 AM
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Some UK online retailers are already accepting preorders at £399. For the Americans, this roughly translates to $599, although I'm sure US gets a pricing preference, as always.

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Comment #23 by ZingZitang
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:34:53 AM
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Just because a blu ray disk CAN hold 50gb of data doesnt mean it WILL.

And how is it different than what you do now anyway?

You currently install the game to make it run better, and then delete it from your hard drive when you're done.

PS4 will also require mandatory blu ray install. . . Just like the ps3

People are jumping to so many stupid conclusions. THINK LOGICALLY PEOPLE! Seriously.

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Comment #24 by SeraphTC
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:36:09 AM
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@21 They've confirmed elsewhere that once the game is installed the disc is not required for play.

On the other hand, power wise the PS4 and XBO both look about the equivalent to a current top end PC. Games on a current top end PC will be lucky to push 30GB when installed, so I agree that at least to start with, an install is not likely to use up 50GB - on either the BD or the HDD.

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Comment #25 by Yungstar 2006
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:42:47 AM
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Lots of whinging.

Top Tip.
Use an external drive.

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Comment #26 by Cyano Khaar
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:45:57 AM
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Finally an option for an external drive. I install A LOT of my games and I've got tons of DLC and arcade games as well and my 320GB drive simply isn't enough.

Time to hook up a 3TB drive and install everything! :D

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Comment #27 by Evo Kazz
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:47:43 AM
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I have a 250GB Matt, and even after 5 years of use and owning all DLC for all my games I still have over 60GB left, 500GB is fine, can't remove it? who cares, we don't need to remove it, only the whiner techs who wanna upgrade it will cry, in about 2 or 3 years MS will no doubt release a 1TB version anyways, it's inevitable.

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Comment #28 by BrySkye
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:50:15 AM
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Have they said anything about limitations on the size of external drives though?

Remember that the 360 will allow a maximum external drive size of 32gb.
If you plug in a larger one, it won't allow you to use the full capacity.

Given that the console has to phone home, I imagine what they are really trying to push is Cloud storage.

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Comment #29 by Beardyboo
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:53:44 AM
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@ #27 Fine?

I think your forgetting that the new machine is not only bluray but that all future downloads on XBO will be significantly larger than current gen. Now bearing in mind that PS3 bluray games install at anything from 4gb to 23gb then that 500gb will run out fast. Especially as games will have to be installed as a prerequisite.

And with those details, I have to say I wont be investing. I'm out.

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Comment #30 by DeadlySinz86
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:56:00 AM
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500GB is pretty piss poor by todays standards. Blu-Ray discs are like 50GB each and if these installs are actually required, that's 10 Games, not including Music, Photos & Videos that you might happen to have on there too. 1TB should've been the norm, not 500GB

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Comment #31 by cheevo360
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:59:05 AM
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That ok I able keep my gamerscore carry over to Xbox One and start new fresh with HDD. I will keep Xbox 360 because you knew Xbox 360 will get more games next year so no reason to trade in or give away Xbox 360 because of Xbox One.

So Wii U is on left, PS3 is middle and Xbox 360 is right so Xbox One will be next to Xbox 360 either right or left while PS4 will be sit next to PS3

Wii U, PS3, PS4, Xbox 360 or Xbox One (left), Xbox One or Xbox 360 (right)

Lol that my planning for where place console next to hahahaha

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Comment #32 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:00:21 AM
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@27 but thats dlc not installing full blu ray sized games this will fill up a lot faster

n yeah we could get externals to the morons saying that but thats just saying buy this then pay more for something else which is the problem

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Comment #33 by tonyturbo
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:05:22 AM
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#24 No not quite, the specs and power of the XBOX ONE and PS4 are no where near current high end pcs. You could have built a pc back in 2011 and have it out perform these two new consoles. The High end PC market today is head and shoulders above what these two consoles have sadly. SSD drives, SLI/XFIRE AMD OR ATI GPUS capable at running games at 2560x1440 with massive amounts of eye candy in the shape of 16xAA and 16xAF. 16gb tri/quad channel DDR3 RAM. Top end GPU's cost more than the console alone lol. If everyone has the money, a top end PC is where the graphical quality is. You get what you pay for.

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Comment #34 by PrismSub7
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:20:54 AM
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@25 External drives are SLOW compared to internal ones, even USB 3.0 is very bad at random reads. Hope you enjoy watching loading screens.
An USB 3.0 disk does around 150 reads per second, an internal around 450, and a SSD around 2000.

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Comment #35 by Lazy_FAQer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:22:20 AM
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@ 16

Lol yeah VCR! I think you mean cutting edge tech, but feel free to keep doing things like we were in the last millenium.

You know that you will all end up with one in the long run, & *GASP* you will enjoy it too!

Your lives must be trouble free if this is what you vent about.


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Comment #36 by A Medium Bear
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:24:19 AM
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I think most of you don't really understand it. You should be able to plug in any USB 3.0 External HDD. They are dirt cheap. You could probably get a 2TB HDD for less than $100 US. I mean, this is a perfect scenario really. You have a dedicated 500GB HDD on the console for important files and a 1/2TB external HDD servicing all of your junk files.

Stop being drama queens and research a little first.

Either that or I don't understand it.

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Comment #37 by ApexTheory
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:37:33 AM
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Why dont you just wait until the console and games are out and see how it all works together before making a decision.

Its been less than a day, not all info has been released, same as PS4. Theres pros and cons in both columns for both machines, same as there ever was and ever will be.

Until you hold one in your hands and see it fully operational I dont see how anyone can make a decision this early on

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Comment #38 by Ginormous76
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:38:36 AM
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@5 I doubt they will let you use any HDD. It will have to be one specifically marketed as Xbox One

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Comment #39 by lifetimegamer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:45:39 AM
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Assuming it supports any off-the-shelf external HDD this is great news. Has to be a better option than paying £85 for a 250GB HDD this gen, right?

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Comment #40 by xKushdiet
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:51:10 AM
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i will be expecting alot of issues with the xbox one in the first few months, just like the original with the red rings. i will stick to my xbox until something worthwhile pops up... not into all these social media apps, i just want enhanced gaming..

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Comment #41 by streetunderpt
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:02:29 AM
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However, Microsoft's Senior Director of Product Planning Albert Penello has since confirmed that you'll be able to bolster your storage with an external hard drive connected to one of Xbox One's USB 3.0 ports.

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Comment #42 by crimson x
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:03:56 AM
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i swear, the more and more of this i read about, the more and more i am disappointed that i even went into this with any sense of optimism.

At this point, which will be the first time i've ever thought this, i'll be better off ditching the consoles and upgrading my pc with the money.

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Comment #43 by treo9
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:06:59 AM
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@ 21
My god could you imagine having to install a 50gb game every new purchase, talk about a massive pain in the ass.

i'm so confused with this new Xbox, it just hasn't got the gamer as its true focus anymore it's a sad day, i'm not impressed with the system and the potential for more fees and commercials either, and buying external Hard Drives.
And Kinect... I have no room for that ugly piece of garbage, I don't even want to look at it, or have it looking at me.

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Comment #44 by The Elite Elite
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:09:10 AM
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"you'll be able to bolster your storage with an external hard drive connected to one of Xbox One's USB 3.0 ports."

Now, what do they mean by an external hard drive? Do they mean I can walk into Best Buy, find a nice external HDD made by any company and hook it up to the One? Or will it be limited to overpriced Microsoft made Xbox One only external HDDs, much like we could only use MS made Xbox 360 HDDs for the 360?

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Comment #45 by SPARTAN 465
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:10:58 AM
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What #23 said. Everybody seems to griping and saying "I'm going to PS4" when PS4 does the exact same.

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Comment #46 by Drias
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:12:53 AM
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I think you guys are forgetting that consoles were never meant to be built to compete with high end computers. You want to blow $2000+ on a PC? do it. You want to spend $800 and go a step above the consoles? go ahead. Consoles were made for people who DON'T want to keep pouring money into hardware, over and over again, like you need to do with a PC.

Even if the console is a temporary gaming machine, i'd rather pay $400 than $1000 + Parts every 2-3 years, any day.

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Comment #47 by SPARTAN 465
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:15:28 AM
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This might be interesting.

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Comment #48 by Mittens2317
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:23:57 AM
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Well, I build/repair computers for a living, so I'm calling bullshit. I could use an original 360 hard drive with a slim 360 hard drive. As long as they're standard SATA encased in something and not some wild, new connection, then it's fine.

The only thing is that it can be a pain in the arse ripping the plastic casing to pieces, but you can defo do it, just rip that shit out, plug it into your PC/laptop, make a disk image, then plug in your new hard drive. Simple.

Likewise if you want a 1TB hard drive in an original 360, just rip it out of it's casing (I did it the dirty way using a pair of pliers on the little holes), get the little connector that slots into the top (it's just a SATA adapter), plug in your 1TB hard drive and format it on the dashboard.

There's no way in hell that MS are having a new type of hard drive manufactured to this thing, not a chance.

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Comment #49 by itself
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:41:24 AM
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@21 Logical? What part of this reveal has been logical, MS can't even get their stories straight about Xbox One.

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Comment #50 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:46:32 AM
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@35 do you work for ms or something, seriously this blind loyalty is stupid and no people wont just buy them because theyre there, gamers arent that moronic... if you really believe that just go look at sega, commadore, atari etc etc, if people just bought new consoles as they came whether they were good bad or indifferent then those companies would still be in the market today yet 2 are bankrupt and the other doesnt make consoles anymore

@48 yeah it will be possible to do i dont think anyones disputing that but they wont like or want it happening and it could bite you in the arse if you do it and it RRODs (or next gens equivalent)

@46 yeah it doesnt cost anywhere near that much to keep up with pcs just shut up or actually learn what your talking about...

pcs CAN be expensive if you run out to get all the latest stuff the second they come out but you dont need it to keep a good quality gaming PC going for longer than a console generation

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Comment #51 by TheSipuli91
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:59:06 AM
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So it'll be like a Mac, then: integrated webcam dies, send the whole Mac for repair. Internal HDD dies on Xbox One and you need to send the whole console for repairs. They'd better rethink this as the ability to fix -minor- issues yourself is something a lot of consumers want from their products. No-one likes sending something like a console used daily for repairing for weeks.

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Comment #52 by macd
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:59:24 AM
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I have huge external hard drives kicking about that I use for my work sometimes, so I might just clear one of them. Range from 1TB to 3TB.

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Comment #53 by Drias
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:02:09 AM
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I Guarantee you it does, especially if you want to be high end :)

If you don't want to be high end, I Agree, it's not that costly, but some people want the best of the best, which costs a good chunk of money.

So, before you attack me next time, please do more research and question what stand point I'm taking, not "I'm going to assume you know nothing of the PC World and be a prick about it" :)

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Comment #54 by Sanchezz4387
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:08:22 AM
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LMFAO this piece of shit oversized paperweight/doorstopper keeps getting better, FIXED HDD + forced kinect ahahahaha cracking one that M$ you bunch of fucking mugs, this COULD of been more bearable with a 2-3TB standard size but 500gb? hahahaha they clearly underestimate how quick blu ray data eats away memory, ive got 8 psn games on my 250gb ps3 and 15 disc games and ive only got 70gb/250gb left......the memory on this will be gone within a year, keep the fails coming, this is quality entertainment

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Comment #55 by Slim Shady
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:10:38 AM
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Wow.....people are very quick to throw around blind hate for the One. How is this bad news? Would u guys rather have it the way it is now & have a small over priced HD that only comes in a couple different sizes?

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Comment #56 by ScottHarris
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:26:30 AM
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@55, the size isn't so much the problem, the problem is what if the hard drive dies ? we won't be able to replace it. We will have to go and get a brand new console just because of a hard drive. There was nothing wrong with the 360 way, why change it ? Microsoft are just making changes for the hell of it.

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Comment #57 by Spandex Stiffy
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:29:26 AM
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Why is it better to replace your internal hard drive? I was always pissed that I had to pay $130 for a 320Gb drive. If I can use a third party external drive, I see this as great news.

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Comment #58 by Slim Shady
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:34:45 AM
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^ yes that would suck, but I'm 100% positive m$ would fix it for free if that was the case ( red ring fixed 2 times for free ) & with the problems of this last gen, I'm going to have a more optimistic approach to this & give the One the benefit of doubt that it won't break for no reason. It looks like they want us to use One every single day for various things so I'm sure they have console reliability very high on the list of must have's. -every1 needs to stop all the One hate, ps4 has nothing special over it so far & hearing u all cry about shit that's not even worth bitching about has already gotten very old.

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Comment #59 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:35:35 AM
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@53 dont you think thats the problem then, you make statements claiming that you have to pay thousands to compete with it and its just wrong, yeah as i said to get a top speced pc these days is well a lot more than you said, a couple of cross threaded titans is about that 2000 mark on its own but you dont need that... infact very few people need that to play anything unless your doing something like recording and voice coverage aswell as playing a top game on full specs

most pc gamers arent like that at all,ive barely spent more on my pc this gen than i have on my 360 with ive costs and consoles crapping out on me due to them being badly made and sealed units and it still plays all top games now... not on full specs because it is fairly old but they play

i do appologise for being rude about it though, im just a little frustrated with everything about this at the moment

@55 at worst i would rather have had what we have now and the option to have externals so we could swap the internal as well... at best id rather have something similar to laptops, a mini sata drive that can be slid out and replaced with any third party one

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Comment #60 by XxStuartxX 1990
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:56:49 AM
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I was referencing the design of the console same as you when you claimed the PS4 was an 'Imaginary console' I never said the Xbox one isn't a good piece of tech, to me most of the time seems to have gone into the wrong areas.

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Comment #61 by TigerII
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:17:56 AM
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I love how they say 500, but in small print substantial portions of it are used by services and apps.

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Comment #62 by matt schwindt
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:36:02 AM
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Sony blurays will support 100-150gig disc starting this year for 4k resolution tvs and ps4 games. Plus they have been creating a terabyte disc for some time. Imagine what those games and movies will look like?

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Comment #63 by Centro
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:36:50 AM
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I wonder how much this will be an issue with the cloud service.

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Comment #64 by The Kingslayer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:41:00 AM
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500GB is small for todays generation, hell my Sky + has double that memory.

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Comment #65 by Death shrimp X
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:51:07 AM
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Why are people saying only 10 games when has a game ever been close to t50gb in size?

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Comment #66 by olthof75
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:52:44 AM
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The lifespan of this system appears smaller everyday. Odd, considering it hasn't even been released yet.

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Comment #67 by the action frampton
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:54:16 AM
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@20 you know that the old xbox hard drives work with slim consoles, right? Just take the putter casing off and it goes right in. Don't know why you'd bother though.

It makes me really sad that (almost) the entire community on here seems to hate MS and love Sony so much. Well the grass isn't always greener guys, so go out and get your PS4s and tell everyone how shit the xbox one is just because it has loads of EXTRA stuff you don't want. You won't be missed by MS and pretty sure you won't be missed by the people enjoying their x1s.

Personally I don't know what I'm gonna do, but I know what I'm not gonna do; moan and whine and be a little bitch and tell everyone that I'm getting a PS4 because X1 isn't EXACTLY what I want.

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Comment #68 by ASSASSIN STEEL
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:06:41 PM
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@1 i don't know what ur talking about i had a 120bg hard drive in my ps3 then change it out with a 800gb at least you have a little freedom with sony but u have to buy Microsoft products like Apple they make u but their products it like ur mom picking out ur own clothes can't do anything that why I'm a sony fan my opinion though i don't like xbox to over price on everything

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Comment #69 by Cinderkin
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:09:05 PM
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The PS3 doesn't have forced installs on every game anymore. They realized that was a pain in the ass.

Microsoft is known for already blocking 3rd party HDD by only letting you use 32GB of a 2TB HDD. You people really don't think that they will sell you M$ official External HDD that only work with the Xbox One?

Also Look at the PS Vita you can only use Sony Approved Vita Memory cards and the prices are ridiculous.

This Xbox One is going to be a huge pain in the ass.

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Comment #70 by Off The WaLL
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:18:01 PM
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Always on & we have cloud people! & over 300 000 servers!!

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Comment #71 by FatalDeathSG45
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:28:10 PM
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Well, after reading up more on the XBOX One, there are pros and there are cons. The non-replaceable HDD? Definitely a con. I shouldn't have to buy a separate hard drive just to hold saves and stuff for my XBOX One.

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Comment #72 by simmshady22
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:40:50 PM
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If I run out of my 500 GB ill just attach my 3 terabyte external drive. No biggie

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Comment #73 by Havok1496
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:47:07 PM
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@71 that's true that you shouldn't have to, but still so many people here are jumping to conclusions without getting all the facts. Who knows how much space installing a game will take etc. My xbox had a 250gb and from time to time i would have to delete some games because it was full, not that big of a deal. Every system has its pros and cons or there would be perfect game systems.

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Comment #74 by Dr Popodopolus
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:49:34 PM
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@72 not if it's not an MS licensed hard drive

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Comment #75 by reaper527
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:53:02 PM
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i don't really have any objections to this as long as we doing have any arbitrary limits imposed on what size external storage devices we can use (such as the arbitrary limits placed on usb thumbdrives/harddrives today).

the current harddrives are user replaceable, but does anyone actually do it? i upgraded my 20 to a 120, but i am yet to find another IRL person who has upgraded their drive.

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Comment #76 by BosmaniaK
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:07:50 PM
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ah well. if you can't take it out, I'll just always hook up an external drive.
no way is dying xbox taking my data.

I'm keeping a close eye on PS4 too. PS4 is looking better (xbox kinect required wtf!)

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Comment #77 by Daniel55645
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:24:26 PM
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another dumb mistake, but 500gb SHOULD be enough, but we'll see. i thought 20 was enough when the 360 first launched

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Comment #78 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:29:02 PM
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@75 i would have by now if i could just install a new 3rd arty one without hammering the tos and warrenties when mine got full but as it stands with ms only liking you using their own things so they get paid more it was cheaper just to buy a second hand console with a bigger one in it

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Comment #79 by XxMayhemxX
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:39:09 PM
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OH i forgot, you xbox junkies don't know about BluRay... They are freaking huge.. 20-50gb's per disc... on a 500gb hdd. And yeah it's no problem to buy a terabyte or 2 terabyte external hdd.. prices going down on them all the time, but so are disc failure rates... "The cheaper they get..."

Oh and you think you can have system critical files on the external? incase the 500gb dies... or the cloud? you would still have to get the hdd replaced for a fee after 1 year im assuming, lol i hate 1 year warantys, nothing breaks in 1 year.. same with 3 month ones, they know nothing breaks in 3 months.

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Comment #80 by PANIC ATTACK 10
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:51:28 PM
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i am shocked at lack of storage space. even tv pvr comes in terrabytes. so why noy xbox. also HD do die eventually. so its a new version of the rod. no sale here MS

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Comment #81 by Killerchronic
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:28:01 PM
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@6 Yea thats a full 10 games you can install. Totally enough, i don't have more than *counts 360 games on shelf* 90, oh right, wait.

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Comment #82 by ONE Disco Bob
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:30:05 PM
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MS just keeps screwing the pooch with this thing. Who the heck is running this freak show?

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Comment #83 by Oblivion70
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:48:22 PM
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I can't get over how stupid the name is. The third xbox is the one?

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Comment #84 by FroZeNSouL
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:04:31 PM
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Always connected HDD. One in Every console
THis is what 1st xbox did.
IF you can use any HDD for any content, this is fine

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Comment #85 by UltimateAuron32
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:39:26 PM
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need i remind the annoying people saying "external HDD" that they cost money, perform TERRIBLY compared to internal HDD's and take up yet more space.

this day and age 500 GB is nothing, thats only double the standard drives in CURRENT gen consoles, so your telling me that we've only developed double what we had? yeah right, theres no reason they cant add a terra byte and be done with it...

oh wait, stupid me, they can, they'll relase special edition consoles with TWO terrabyte drives in them...

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Comment #86 by Samigi
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:46:50 PM
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How is 500GB not a lot? I've had a 250GB Hardrive for 3 years and I've used less than 100.

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Comment #87 by chanman
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:47:29 PM
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500 GB is more than enough for me

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Comment #88 by Tim 13
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 04:19:21 PM
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I got a 4TB HDD on Amazon for $175. Ain't no skin off my ass. Just buy a fucking external drive. Microsoft ain't trying to scam you, they're just cheaping out thinking that 500GB is acceptable in 2013.

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Comment #89 by Darth Villainous
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 04:33:42 PM
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To those who don't get why this is yet another dick move by MS, the reason is simple: all games will *require* full installation onto the HDD. Blu rays hold 50gb in data. While most games *now* aren't nearly that big, that will quickly go the way of the dodo since both PS4 and XO use it; devs will no longer be limited to having to ensure their data fits onto a DVD or two. Thus, you'll only be able to fit 9-10 games onto the HDD. This is without accounting for DLC or other online purchases.

So, yeah. Yet another dick move among an ocean of them. As my sister commented to me, "They're not shooting themselves in the foot, but in the head."

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Comment #90 by Didi Mau
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 05:06:14 PM
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The amount of people that fill up their 500GB is going to be extremely low, honestly. And as #5 says, an external 1TB hard drive is crazy cheap, the current 360 hard drives are more expensive than they should be.

I have a 250GB HD in my 360 and have over 800 Rock Band songs downloaded, over 100 arcade titles, and any game that gets commonly used installed. I still have 79GB remaining. If you run out of 500GB you're either installing games that you're no longer playing or are extremely rich to afford that much downloadable content.

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Comment #91 by Delow317
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 05:06:32 PM
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This is bullshit.. Who in the fuck in their right mind would want a tacky and ugly external HDD next to your system and entertainment rack? Fuck that shit. If this thing really can't be replaced, then I'll consider that when I stopped getting ripped off and go PS4.

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Comment #92 by RDrules
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 05:29:36 PM
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@86 because your comparing what the 360 uses to what will bhe needed for this, with full installation and the games being bigger in general its gonna fill up fast

@88 thats great as long as they let you use third party ones.... which wouldnt be like ms at all

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Comment #93 by HorsemanOfWar16
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 06:00:26 PM
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I've lived with 250 GB for a few years, 500GB is a big step up and as long as I can link my 3TB up to it and not have to spend more money on a fancy Xbox One only compatible external Hard Drive - I'm happy:),

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Comment #94 by StaggeredCheese
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 06:45:43 PM
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why are people complaining? it is 500gb how much of that do you think you will actually use? i have a 250gb in my 360 and i still have 105gb left and i have got like 8 installed games and arcade games, dlc etc.

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Comment #95 by Phantomzero17
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:50:55 PM
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@24 Until we get solid info on the internal components everything MS pointed out such as 8 core (Likely a Quad core hyper-threaded ,tbh I don't trust MS to put in an actual 8 core processor), the 8 GB of RAM, etc can be said the same of "Top End PC's" from 2008. I would know I built one for < $800 at the time (Still runs great with a few more modern upgrades for less then $200 unlike this 360 which has RROD'd 8 times).

Don't trust a corp to make a console like this with actual top end components it's not cost effective enough.

A point about the PS3 though I've swapped in my own hard-drive and even installed Linux on it at one point and Sony never did a darn thing. They couldn't care less if their user base twinked with it or turned the system into a TF2 sever. MS locked out your drive if you decided to put in your own decently priced 1TB and formatted it instead of paying their exorbitant prices for a 120 GB.

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Comment #96 by crunchb3rry
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:03:57 PM
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I just hope the external ones can be tied to the system (like linked to only your MS can still be dicks and not let your friends borrow your external and play your games) so you can play the games stored on there, not have to transfer them to he primary.

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Comment #97 by Yoshi Power 91
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:05:31 PM
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Comment #98 by resevil239
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:28:11 PM
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I've already decided I won't be getting an xbox one, but come one with the first few comments. How is 500 GB not that much? thats a ton, and the fact that you can just get any external HDD and use that for extra space is great. This is one of the few good things about the new xbox imo.

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Comment #99 by dmancahil
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 12:05:35 AM
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did any one notice that theirs a trailer inside the trailer, at 1:12 the 2 guys are wearing monarch security outfits the evil guys (i think) in remedys new exclusive title for the xbone (xbox one) dun dun duuuuuuuuuun

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Comment #100 by Restricted-Access
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 01:12:49 AM
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I seem to recall a few years ago, that you COULD use an external hard drive with the 360 - until they updated the dashboard, added the ability to use USB flash drives (up to 16 GB) as memory cards, and removed the ability to use external HD's. There was a HUGE outcry of complaints over that!

Now that they are allowing the use of external HD's with Xbox One... people are complaining about that??? What the hell?!! 500 GB is twice the capacity of standard Xbox 360 Slim models - AND you can use an external HD (I'll assume support of whatever the current maximum size is currently available)... why is that bad? Would you rather they stick a 1 TB drive in there, and charge an extra $100.00 (U.S. - I don't know the UK equivalent)? That's what would happen! Or, you could buy your own external "2 TB" hard drive for $100.00... think about it!!!

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Comment #101 by Kivlov
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 01:44:47 AM
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Another stupid move. What happens when it fails, you have to get a new xbox. What happens when it is full, get a massive external and have it dangling off the console.

It makes the whole point of the sleek design redundant.

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Comment #102 by Samigi
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 02:03:13 AM
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@92 Do you really think Microsoft would that stupid to give us a Hardrive that will run out within a year? Think about it. 500GB will be enough.

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Comment #103 by Sh4wn is 3LE37
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 02:03:21 AM
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Heard that it requires an internet check once every 24 hours and that used games will have a fee. Seems wrong to do both. People should not have to pay a fee for a game they buy used or borrow from a friend.

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Comment #104 by ziggy78900
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 04:09:57 AM
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sick of this greedy money bs.not buying a new xbox and if youre smart you wil buy a ps4 had its chance and they mest it all up.

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Comment #105 by Sh4wn is 3LE37
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 06:37:40 AM
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@104: PC gaming is pretty nice too.

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Comment #106 by IFC3000
Friday, May 24, 2013 @ 04:21:23 AM
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probably half of the VCR hdd space will be used by dashboard ads
oh and i love pregnant style controller good job MICROSHIT

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Comment #107 by chrisarcade
Wednesday, May 29, 2013 @ 11:23:07 AM
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The more I learn about this system the more I get angry!..No backwards compatibility and now a non removable hard seems as if Microsoft is trying to kill the system b4 it's even released. I want a removable hard drive, I want all my retail and Live games to work on the Xbox One and I want Killer Instinct and Final Fantasy 7!! Stupid micorsoft!!

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