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Microsoft Outlines Xbox One Achievements System
Written Wednesday, May 22, 2013 By Lee Bradley
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The Xbox One reveal has been confusing, with Microsoft issuing vague and contradictory statements regarding a number of issues, most notably on the issue of used games and the console’s connected nature.

And in our search to discover what Microsoft has up its sleeves in terms of achievements, we’ve sadly encountered much the same problem. It seems that not everyone is singing from the same hymn sheet.

X360A attended a live screening of the reveal event hosted by Microsoft in London last night. After the event we cornered Xbox UK Marketing Director Harvey Eagle in the bar and asked him some questions about the new system. It wasn’t especially helpful.

Overnight, however, a number of facts have emerged from the event in Redmond, which shed a little more light on the platform holder’s plans. We’ll get to that further down the page, but in the meantime, here’s the transcript of our chat with Eagle.

You’ve said that achievements will now reward players in new and different ways. What can you tell us about that?

Harvey Eagle: At the moment the way achievements work is that you basically get rewarded for what you do. In the new world you’ll get rewarded for not only what you do, but how you’ve done it.

The style of play that you use to get that achievement will count towards the achievement score. So it’s just a more sophisticated achievement system that rewards you for your playing style.

Ok, so what does that mean? Many players in our community boost Gamerscore, is that something that will receive smaller rewards? How exactly are you going to be offering achievements based on style and not just accomplishments?

HE: We won’t prevent players from boosting, but....

So how does it work?

HE: It’s hard for me to give you real examples today, mainly because I’ve not seen the system and how it works. I don’t want to make up stuff that I’m not clear on. The explanation for the achievement system and how it works will come later on.

Okay. That’s fine. I am going to ask you one more question though. Actually, two. You’ve said that your Gamerscore will carry over, but will there be any delineation between the achievements you’ve earned on Xbox 360 and the achievements you’ve earned on Xbox One?

HE: That’s something we’re going to be talking about later.

Right. And the last question, which you’re probably going to say the same to, but I’ve gotta ask. Bearing in mind these changes, will Xbox One games still offer up 1000G as standard?

HE: Same thing, we’ll be talking about it soon.

So that’s that. And as you can see, Eagle was pretty clear that the new achievements system would get a proper unveiling soon, possibly at E3 in a few weeks time. But he didn’t know anything else.

Overnight, however, Microsoft has revealed a few more titbits of information.

First and foremost among these is that the Xbox One will feature cloud-based achievements that allow developers to add to and adapt a game’s list on the fly.

"So even after [developers] ship the game, if they want to go update achievements, add new achievements, they can totally do that," Microsoft's Ben Kilgore, corporate vice president of Interactive Entertainment Business told Polygon.

The new console’s previously mooted cross-generational and cross-game achievements are also a reality. 

According to the same report, because Xbox Live accounts straddle both consoles, developers will be able to design achievements for the Xbox One that reward you for things you’ve done on the Xbox 360. 

Beyond that, the Xbox One’s video sharing capabilities will also come into play, according to a piece on Microsoft’s Xbox Wire which states, “A new and expanded achievements system captures video of your epic moments, continues to grow a game’s achievements over time and rewards you in new ways, and Gamerscores carry over from Xbox 360.”

Again though, like the “rewarding you for how you play, not just what you do” statement, and the cross-game and cross-console achievements, the specifics are absent. Many of these these things raise more questions than they answer. 

Unfortunately, however, so far that seems to be the story of the Xbox One. We’ll bring more when we’ve tracked down some facts.




 
 

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Comment #1 by creaper210
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:34:54 AM
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Didn't answer the important questions.
The last two are what I'd like to know.


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Comment #2 by GOoni3
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:35:37 AM
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I'm sticking to my xbox 360 until otherwise


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Comment #3 by XxStuartxX 1990
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:36:40 AM
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Interesting, but over the last few years Achievements have lost there 'sparkle' for me, especially the way people have been using them as marketing tools, so I'm not all that fussed, but it could be interesting.


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Comment #4 by Dragonmaster700
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:39:44 AM
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Achievements were fine, why "fix" something that isn't broken?


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Comment #5 by Hudson888
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:39:45 AM
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huh? Seems a bit confusing at the moment, but doesn't exactly help that he wasn't sure himself. I'm pretty much none the wiser....


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Comment #6 by Mishibishi
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:41:02 AM
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Im not a fan of the idea that Achievements can be changed on the fly and depending on how you do them they have different values.

Why change something that wasnt broken? The only previous problems with achievements were the dull lists created by publishers, if publishers had of been more creative then there really would have been nothing wrong.

Im really beginning to hate the Xbox One.


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Comment #7 by El Grave
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:41:57 AM
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So a developer can decide to add more achievements on the fly. So lets say a piece of DLC doesn't sell too well, they suddenly can add a shitload more achievements to it, so more people will buy it, the people that want to complete their games 100% or any cr*p like that? Because that is what they are gonna do, anything to make sales go up.

I don't even know if I care anymore after the second hand gaming issues, or lending games and having to be connected to be able to install a game and thus play it. Too many vague answers. Too many answers I didn't want to hear.

Like someone yesterday said. Microsoft wasn't reaching for my wallet, but reaching at my balls...


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Comment #8 by Aussie27Legend
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:44:08 AM
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That didn't outline shit lol, do Microsoft even know what they are doing at this point?


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Comment #9 by LeeJ2512
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:45:30 AM
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Don't think I'm gonna read any more news pieces until E3, it's getting frustrating at the lack of specifics now. Just like when all of the ridiculous rumours were circulating, it got annoying after a while.


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Comment #10 by Ned King
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:51:46 AM
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@9 I'm thinking the same,to many rumors and people making rubbish up.Will wait to see the finish article then I will decide if I'll stick to the 360 are change to the Xbox one.
Really stupid name by the way lol.


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Comment #11 by Evo Kazz
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:52:09 AM
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I'm guessing it's something like this: Say for example Call Of Duty Ghosts has 1000/1000GS, if you do the whole lot properly, then you will attain 100%, but say you boost, you get less GS overall, something like that...


For example, reach Level 50, is worth 50GS if you play over time, and meet certain criteria en route, but if you boost it in a day you'll only get 25GS....Sounds stupid, but that's how my tiny brain translates the info thats been released so far, if this is the case...I might have to climb back on the console fence, boosting on 360 is what made it fun for me, and meeting so many great people.


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Comment #12 by daardu
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:52:11 AM
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Damn. I think their "innovations" are a little exaggerated.


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Comment #13 by Wicelow
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:52:28 AM
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So mostly oulining they'll talk about it later... Like everything else.
Well... Pointless "reveal" is pointless.

With what we know, and what they're purposely not telling, I'm pretty sure the next "gen" is gonna be awful from the customer side. But without a doubt a money robing fest for M$ and friends...


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Comment #14 by onidemon
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:52:52 AM
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Could that be anymore confusing if he tried? I can understand the fact that he doesn't want to comment on something he's uncertain of or raise false expectations, but come on you have to give us something here !


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Comment #15 by cheevo360
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:54:00 AM
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Well I agreed with it. It is confused. I will still get Xbox One. I don't care about Kinect which I will not using it and new achievements system. I just want to play some great Xbox One games that outside of bored Kinect. :)


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Comment #16 by Temporal Agent
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:00:44 AM
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If it's not broke...don't fix it.


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Comment #17 by DeadlySinz86
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:00:53 AM
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Basically, they dont even know themselves and they'll just play it by ear in the coming months ...


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Comment #18 by Bistric
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:01:11 AM
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As when announced several months ago, I see one advantage in this new achievement system: Developers can remove online achievements once the server goes offline, thus enabling everyone to reach 100%.
However, I see a huge possibility for complication if they "tailor achievements based on gamer's playing style". This could possibly mean that different people will end up having different set of achievements in the same game. Therefore, I'm hoping most developers will be lzy enough not to implement this.


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Comment #19 by JasperExtreme
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:06:15 AM
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@#4 nobody said it was broken or that it is being "fixed". Only that it's being changed.


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Comment #20 by R00Ki3 117
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:12:06 AM
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we'll get back to you on that. dude answered like a politician.


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Comment #21 by Madbuk
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:20:21 AM
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This gen, I have owned all 4 main consoles. The PC, Xbox 360, PS3 and the Wii (And a PSP/DS Lite/DSi/3DS).
Next gen, I won't be getting the Wii U until enough games come out that warrant a buy. I probably won't be getting the PS4, as that costs a lot of money, until a good exclusive comes out. As for the Xbox One, I need to see how this achievement system works. Only one exclusive has really stood out for me on the 360 - Kameo. The rest are all first-person shooters, pretty much, which I despise.

tl;dr: Gaming has gone downhill. There are no longer good exclusive, ORIGINAL, games available unless it's an indie game. A shame...


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Comment #22 by Lazy_FAQer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:25:59 AM
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I'm all up for this if it stops saddos boosting for hours for an achievement.

Delineating old & new sounds cool too. Hopefully our profiles can be used on both systems so we can work on two tallies & an overall total:)


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Comment #23 by pined5551
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:26:33 AM
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I see MS has the stats already...

56% of current 360 owners will not be buying an Xbox One. Of that 56%, 86% will buy a PS4. The remaining 14% a PC.


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Comment #24 by eskimoletdinov
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:28:53 AM
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From what I read in an interview a few weeks ago, can't remember where, one use for these new achievements 'on the fly' would be for devs to be able to direct players to aim to do things in a certain way. Like for example, in say, a coop game, rather than a player going lone wolf, when the devs see players doing this they could add an achievement to hit checkpoints within set times of other players. Which I would expect may promote more team play. Was just an example, can't remember the exact one used.


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Comment #25 by JuSt BLaZe
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:43:18 AM
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What a bunch of crap, changing the way of rewarding achievments HOW YOU UNLOCKED them. Worst idea ever!!!


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Comment #26 by El Grave
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:44:53 AM
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@24 Or when the multiplayer of a game is cr*p and nobody plays it, they're gonna add achievements to the multiplayer, so people will play it to get the achievements. Or when you got all the achievements of a game, they're gonna add achievements randomly, so you're never done with a game if you want to 100% the game. Haha nightmare for completionists, them suddenly adding an impossible achievement.


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Comment #27 by eskimoletdinov
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:47:17 AM
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@26 haha, true.

Tbh, they will never win with it really, when somebody loves a game they want more achievements, the more the better. When they dislike it they want the 1000g done and then move on.


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Comment #28 by artphobia
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:48:01 AM
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Sooo what happens if you get a bad score on an achievement then? Stuck with it or they going to allow deleting and retrying?


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Comment #29 by XoKLOWNxKILLAoX
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:49:49 AM
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*** EXCLUSIVE ***

Microsoft's newest employee (D Rumsfeld) has just issued this press release regarding the very latest news on the Xbox One:

"There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know we don't know."

You heard it here first...


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Comment #30 by DarqStalker
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:51:02 AM
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@11 - ".I might have to climb back on the console fence, boosting on 360 is what made it fun for me, and meeting so many great people."

Couldn't agree more. I find it ironic though. MS are trying to market their new system as a way to be more social with players and friends. Yet, everything they seem to be doing counter acts this entirely! Taking your example into consideration....

If what you are thinking, and what I think as well, achievements will be worth more if achieved in whatever way the developers decide as the correct method to get them, and boosting will probably get you a lower gamerscore for the same achievement. Now, boosting for me, has led me to to meet most of my Xbox Live friends and has become a more social aspect for me than if I was to just get these achievements on my own. By punishing boosting, you are punishing the social aspect of games.

I just don't know what's going on anymore and loosing my faith in this next generation of consoles.


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Comment #31 by I GameMaster l
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:52:13 AM
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when I think of the new xbox I just can't get this phrase out of my mind:

"I don't want it better, I want it my WAY!!!"


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Comment #32 by kaiyo penguin
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:09:15 AM
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i really wanna like the xbox one....but with all this bullshit im finding it hard to at the moment. still my 360 has got a long way to go, i got 200+ games that i still wanna pick up yet.


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Comment #33 by kaiyo penguin
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:13:49 AM
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@29 i know i dont know what your on about. :P


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Comment #34 by Mittens2317
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:18:25 AM
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"[...]the way you play[...]"

So, basically, they'll be encouraging developers to do more achievements like DE:HR's stealth-only play through, along with a "kill every fucker on screen" play through. Doesn't seem like a change to me.


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Comment #35 by spike14
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:43:43 AM
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@29 that cracks me up lol
oh if theres an unobtainable achievement like in some 360games
im going to say
"XBOX GO HOME and INITIATE SELF DESTRUCT SEQUENCE"
then im off to PS4 with their beyond two souls game thingy


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Comment #36 by ReklezZTrini
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:44:56 AM
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Achievement hunting isn't a big deal for me anymore. Not only do I not have time but it doesn't feel rewarding.


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Comment #37 by Frozenghost001
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:52:28 AM
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achievements are fine the way they are, the only possible upgrade that would make them better is the cloud feature which they mentioned, where devs can add new achievements on the fly without having the need for paid dlc like the xbox 360 works now.

just add that, and we're set. no need for a whole revamp of the entire system.


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Comment #38 by TheSipuli91
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 09:56:20 AM
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If it's like #34 said it could be, then how's it really any different to what we have now? Complete Downpour with bad karma - get one set of achievements; complete Downpour without even killing anything - get another set of achievements. If they truly go for some retarded "reach level 50 after playing at least 100 hours anf get 100GG. Every hour below the target gameplay time reduces the GS by 1" I can see how people would lose interest in achievement hunting and possibly start doing more save game mods etc. to reach the best scores.


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Comment #39 by pauly_27
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:02:53 AM
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I think a lot of you are reading too much into this.

Look at the picture..It's going to be garbage like "make x amount of friends" or "play with x amount of unique players"

In any case, why will devs go out of their way (and create work for themselves) by adding achievements, because they aren't even relevant to how a game actually works.


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Comment #40 by Sanchezz4387
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:18:22 AM
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all the rumours and M$ are either reluctanct to give clear answers or they clearly just dont know themselves.....either way pretty abysmal for a company this big, gaming clearly is an afterthought to them i hope people get satisfaction from this, i loved my 360 but i wont be embracing this


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Comment #41 by Meyerhog
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:59:52 AM
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This was a reveal event, not a tell every single detail about the console event. They were just revealing the main points of the console, and since E3 is in a couple weeks, what rational person would even expect them to reveal all of the details? Just chill and wait.


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Comment #42 by Phunky
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:09:48 AM
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http://youtu.be/KbWgUO-Rqcw

The reveal event summed up in two minutes.


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Comment #43 by Damian227
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:13:00 AM
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So to sum up that interview; Gamers - "So whats happening?" , MS - "Don't know"


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Comment #44 by Slayinfool
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:15:51 AM
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WHO FUCKING CARES at this point... I won't be earning one freaking achievement on the X1 because I will NOT own one..


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Comment #45 by AKfoy0face
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:25:04 AM
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this shit wont be out for another year anyways. really calm the fk down


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Comment #46 by TigerII
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:27:39 AM
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@45. Microsoft is saying Fall of 2013. That is under a year


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Comment #47 by The Kingslayer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:47:39 AM
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What the hell is the point of having a reveal when you're not going to answer questions ?


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Comment #48 by Off The WaLL
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:50:02 AM
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They will do something awesome with the achievements. I know


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Comment #49 by COLE0303
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:52:22 AM
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This may have been asked and answered already but...What if i get 1000/1000 from Watch_Dogs on the 360 and then decide to play it again on XOne?


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Comment #50 by xV Gypsy Vx
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:11:53 PM
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I can think of one good reason for developers to change achievements on the fly. Let's say you get a game that has been out for a long time and no one plays multiplayer anymore on it and there are a few multiplayer achievements to earn but are impossible unless you find people with the game to help you boost. Well, the developers at that time could change the way you get those few achievements by having you do something else to get them. Makes since to me.


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Comment #51 by Mr Jonnysniper
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:16:13 PM
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He didnt answer anything at all, was there any point in reading that?


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Comment #52 by G3nOc1De
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:23:05 PM
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I think they will split up the Achievements for the 360 and One in 2 different Lists.


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Comment #53 by Mopey
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:23:21 PM
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@#50

That's definitely a clever solution. What I'm more scared of is that they use it the other way around, or even better: Do not use it at all.

Let's say the game has time specific achievements that will fade away after a while. For example: Finish a certain cup in FIFA (or whatever game you want) of the year 2014. What, it's 2015 already? No chance to ever get it, then. You know how well EA supports their old games.

Of course, that's a worst case scenario, but that might be the next generation of impossible achievements, if we're looking at it in a very dark way.


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Comment #54 by crmsnsshdw
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:27:51 PM
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So correct me if I'm wrong but since achievements are cloud based and not disc based, you have to be online to achieve them correct?


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Comment #55 by ZingZitang
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:45:21 PM
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Lol @ all the people saying they'll be getting a ps4 claiming it will be better.

How do you know that when we in fact know even less about the ps4 then we do about xbox one.

I guarantee the ps4 will have 90% of the xbox one features you're all complaining about.


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Comment #56 by Krovash
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 12:57:11 PM
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I really love how he says achievemtns are gonna give you a new way to track your progress and stuff like that.......and then he says he never saw the console...shows how professional microsoft representatives are.


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Comment #57 by SydLosttarot
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:03:34 PM
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Mm, I don't think so. I'm betting they won't be fucking retarded.

No always on Kinect screwing up my ability to play my games and no nanny state 24 hour log-in to play what I ostensibly paid for. I feel pretty confident it will be better and half of their exclusives are not going to be TV shows.

If I'm wrong though, I have a PS3, 360, Wii and will upgrade to a good PC. I've always wanted mod support anyhow.


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Comment #58 by jordanwyo
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:06:35 PM
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it would have surprised me less if the guy would have said,"Thats what we forgot to do. Put in achievements."


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Comment #59 by davhuit
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:14:06 PM
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@27 : Nah, if you dislike the game, you don't care about it's achievements ^^;


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Comment #60 by cheevo360
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:23:48 PM
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Funny is that lots of fanboys bashing on Wii U for not enough games and now Xbox One getting same kinda of things that fanboys bashing on it for no back comp, achievements system confusing and used games. There few bashing on PS4 for no back comp. Oh well fanbase is arrived this year to getting worst hehehehe :)

Cannot wait to play more games on each of those wonderful next generation consoles. :)


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Comment #61 by Daniel55645
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:26:02 PM
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FUCKING DUMB!!! Don't change achievements


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Comment #62 by XxMayhemxX
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:29:30 PM
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Now they want to give less points to boosters, to add to the laundry list of blunders with this debacle.
Why don't they just let players play how they want to play...
The guy said, "you'll still be able to boost, but..." you'll get less points for it, maybe half? So we'll have all these ppl with 100% on these games but less totals... then say, someone who doesn't boost like me.


@55 Sony has said used games wont be blocked, nor charged to play them.

I hope they have 2 gamerscores.. 360 and One... and make a total tally thats fine, so long as they are seperate too.

I like the ability to edit acheivment lists on the fly.. personally.. but acheivment whores won't... And still so many ppl on this acheivment site defending M$. I'll give you all this, your truly devoted... its cult like...





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Comment #63 by zarda1
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:41:04 PM
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I've had enough with microsoft, Im done.


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Comment #64 by Sir Cobalt
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 01:56:41 PM
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What this means is that Microsoft has found a way to monetize achievements. Think of cross-game achievements, what better way for a struggling developer to now require you to own two of their games for completion! The chief insight into how achievements will work is the Game Center experiment on the 360. The company knows completionists well enough to know that by giving out 5 points out of 1000 for pressing start to access the game and then microtransact you to death to earn more points was a great way to make money off of games that were DECADES old. Now imagine that philosophy to an ever evolving list of achievements that can require you to own other games, other microsoft platforms and can be edited at a moments notice. At this point I wouldn't be surprised to see the next Halo require you to use a Zune to access an additional multiplayer map for 20 points!


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Comment #65 by PANIC ATTACK 10
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:03:17 PM
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i think it will be like how you kill someone. ie just shot him = normal ahcieve. sliding jumping leaping off walls bullet between eyes = highest ahcieve.

but i dont like many things with this xbox. so i am done with MS xbox.


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Comment #66 by Zombiedrd
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:06:43 PM
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Completionist are not gonna be pleased


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Comment #67 by AKfoy0face
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 02:40:35 PM
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just leave the damn achieements the way thehy are for fuck sakes wow


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Comment #68 by Mrryan12
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:02:15 PM
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For a Q&A, that was terrible. They vaguely answered 1 of 4 questions. Why bother?


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Comment #69 by Samigi
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:44:55 PM
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Oh please. Consoles are for gaming, not for achievements. I do enjoy getting achievements and will still enjoy getting them on the Xbox One. I don't see the problem guys.


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Comment #70 by Samigi
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:49:51 PM
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Also when I get all the cheevos on a game I don't really want to play it as much. With added achievements I can still enjoy playing. It's Good business.


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Comment #71 by Comatose
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 03:50:36 PM
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sounds interesting enough. If there is a decrease for something that gets boosted, that would be awesome. Bringing back the actual meaning of the word "Achievement"!


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Comment #72 by SgtAwesomesauce
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 04:01:19 PM
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Xbox One Announcement Abridged Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOxdMQhDMIU

LMAO


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Comment #73 by Thy Entertainer
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 04:38:23 PM
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I'm guessing this means that achievements are going to be grouped together by developers, similar to what happens in Halo: Waypoint. It seems to me that this is the most likely way that developers would be able to 'group' the achievements people have earned in games - for example, the difficulty achievements are all placed together in one group, if too many people finish a game on the hardest difficulty, they could add new parameters for a new achievement (Beat the game on the hardest difficulty without dying, Beat the game without any allies etc).


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Comment #74 by HorsemanOfWar16
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 05:54:50 PM
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Hmmm ... I do like achievements.;/


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Comment #75 by hotdogenigma
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 06:19:45 PM
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What was the point of having the interview, there was nothing of value in there other than the fact that we may get rewarded differently, but still nothing at all. Do I get a cash reward for achievements? Discounts on DLC? Probably not, so why make such a change to the achievement system? HE should have told you right off the bat I can't tell you much, piss off.


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Comment #76 by StaggeredCheese
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 06:41:44 PM
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don't see the problem here why wouldn't you want dev to add more achievements as you go? it is fun to unlock achievements so why not unlock more, a mean when you think of how big skyrim is and how many achievements they could of put in and now they could possibly add extra achievements to get you to do new things.

People on here don't understand also the fact that E3 is around the corner and MS couldn't just release every detail about the xbox one without them having anything new to show at E3.


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Comment #77 by Phantomzero17
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:28:21 PM
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Aaaaaaaaaaaand... STEAM BOX.


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Comment #78 by Spanish Assault
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:38:31 PM
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whatever....


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Comment #79 by Robobeast76
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:42:04 PM
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I'm concerned about this 'add achievements on the fly' thing. Potentially you could face the situation of being 100% complete but then not be a week later even if no DLC is added. Great in concept, not so great for completionists.


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Comment #80 by Bane TDKR
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 07:48:35 PM
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I'm assuming that the "how you do it" method is how the game expects it to be done. As in, the achievement will be programmed with a few expected ways of doing it (Fly a helecopter for ten minutes or something, by avoiding bullets and fighting the things attacking you). However, you could simply fly in a circle in a safe zone for ten minutes. Because that wasn't the intended way, but still works, you get 10G instead of 20G or something like that.

Also, since devs can add achievements on the fly, I guess there will be rare achievements or something that are removed quickly for a new, more balanced one.


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Comment #81 by Nightfury82
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 08:20:19 PM
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I've been a loyal Xbox gamer since I bought my original Xbox (green Halo edition) 10 years ago. I have a PS3 as well but only own 5 games in comparison to 50+ on my Xbox 360. However, I do not like what I'm reading in regards to the Xbox One. Not just this article about achievements either. I doubt MS is reading my post but I'm going to say this: You lost me as a customer for the Xbox One.


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Comment #82 by NebuCHADnezzary
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:15:26 PM
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Wow! There is a lot to consider here, but I'm an achievement junkie. I'm an XBOX junkie. I like games with well-rounded achievements. 1000 gamerscore for the original game is fine with me, but when it comes to DLC I WANT TO SEE CONSISTENCY. I would appreciate a standard for all DLC content to be 250 points. If I spend $60 on a game, plus spend around that much for a season pass (Borderlands 2) with 4 DLCs, shouldn't I get a game with a potential of 2000 gamerscore?


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Comment #83 by LJParnell
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 10:17:08 PM
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The Changing Things on the Fly scares me a little. Maybe I am being too negative, it sounds like achievements could easily become unobtainable - much more so than now. Being a completionist, that is scary.


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Comment #84 by RockMan Respect
Wednesday, May 22, 2013 @ 11:01:49 PM
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Unobtainable achievements make me feel sick inside.


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Comment #85 by ll Mr Bubbles ll
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 01:29:44 AM
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Lol at people saying they wont buy the console just because achievements are handled differently next gen. Sad that a little number means so much to people.


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Comment #86 by Kivlov
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 01:42:02 AM
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I don't like the sound of this. It is mostly all about OCD, and game developers being able to fuck with things post launch, could be good but also could be bad, I am one who hates achievements in DLC, I just finish a game then they add more shit to do and I don't want it. Unless they are simple and easy to do. It keeps me playing shit games I want to just finish and bin.

Either way, I am sure as shit not going to use a kinect and if it is required in some way for achievements I don't want any part of that neither.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with how cheeves work now, either add more or have some standardized rules to stop devs putting in stupid as cunt achievements like "Beat the story without dying EVER no respawns" shit like that makes me want to see the devs burn in hell.


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Comment #87 by Dr Popodopolus
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 02:16:34 AM
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"Microsoft Outlines Xbox One Achievements"

Harvey Eagle: "That’s something we’re going to be talking about later"

thanks for the article, guys


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Comment #88 by condemmedman
Thursday, May 23, 2013 @ 06:13:29 AM
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It hurts me to say this but I dont think I'll make the transition over to the the xbox one too many things I dont like the sound of :-(


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Comment #89 by monkespit
Friday, May 24, 2013 @ 08:46:17 AM
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its just nice that they allow more to be added later if dev chooses, so after they realize their dlc with no achievements was a bad idea they can throw more in. or after reading this sites annual achievement awards can revise/improve/add more to their game(s).


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Comment #90 by BradyX3
Friday, May 24, 2013 @ 01:12:53 PM
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They're being such teases with this whole issue. Just give us the whole damn info about it already!


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Comment #91 by TylerMania707
Monday, May 27, 2013 @ 05:48:14 AM
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Huh, that's pretty cool. I'm a HUGE achievement hunter so I hope this will be a very good system.


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