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Oddworld: Abe’s Oddysee New N’ Tasty
E3 2013: DayZ and Oddworld HD Devs Want to Bring Their Game to Xbox One, Currently Can't
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DayZ is the phenomenally successful Arma 2 mod from Dean Hall that is now being turned into a standalone game.

Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty is a HD remake of the classic Abe's Oddysee, from Oddworld Inhabitants and Just Add Water.

Fans want to see both games on Xbox One, but as it stands neither title is coming to the system, thanks in part to Microsoft’s policies.

Under the system’s current rules, developers are not able to self-publish on Xbox One. To appear on the console they have to do a deal with either a third-party publisher, or Microsoft Game Studios.

"For Xbox One they've granted us a license for New 'n' Tasty but they still say you need a publisher,” said Oddworld developer and former Microsoft employee Lorne Lanning.

“We don't have a publisher so we're not officially on the platform, even though we're compatible, even though we'll be ready to do it. Period. 

“Why do we need a publisher when we self-finance our games, we build our own IP, we manage our own IP and we've turned nearly two million units online as indie publishers sold - not free downloads? Why? What's wrong with us?

"It's a different level of perspective. Is it ridiculous? I guess it depends on what seat you're sitting in. But I think right now Wall Street is seeing something else that's ridiculous and we're seeing it reflected in public companies' stock values.”

Clearly angry, Lanning concluded by saying, "Who's in touch with their audience? And who seems out of touch with their audience? All we know is we've tried to get our games on their platform and we can't do it - and I even helped them release the box."

Meanwhile, DayZ developer Dean Hall has encountered similar problems. When asked whether he was bringing the open-world zombie survival game to PS4 or Xbox One he said, “We talked to both of them. But, as I’m sure you’re aware, Sony lets you self-publish and they don’t make you pay for updates.”

“Microsoft requires you to have a publisher. They have no digital distribution strategy and they require you to pay $10,000, or whatever it is, for updates.”

“I like what I saw on the Xbox in a lot of cases as well,” Hall Continued. “I’m not shitting on them. I’m kind of hopeful that Microsoft has just forgot to talk about its indie support. Maybe I’m being a bit naive.”

As far as Hall is concerned, it’s just policies preventing him from bringing DayZ to Xbox One, not technology.

“It’s totally achievable,” he said. “The only barriers are the ones console manufacturers put up in the way of indie devs. That’s the only barrier now. I’d love to see this on Xbox Live. I’d love to see it on PS4.”

Microsoft’s approach to the next-generation, in regards to independent developers, has been starkly different. While Sony has opened the floodgates on indie titles, Microsoft has been a little more discerning.

Let’s hope that some kind of compromise can be reached and both DayZ and Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty can eventually make their way to Xbox One.

[via Eurogamer]




 
 

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Comment #1 by Poisonheadcrab
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:34:39 PM
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Because they want MONEEEEEEYYYYYYY!!!


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Comment #2 by creaper210
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:34:45 PM
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Look. Another reason to get a PS4. Microsoft still wants to restrict not only games, but even the devs.
Star


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Comment #3 by Krovash
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:36:15 PM
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Love it how microsoft employee said "We're THE MOST indie-friendly company out there".....indie-friendly my ass.


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Comment #4 by DarqStalker
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:39:05 PM
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So what about EA? Doesn't EA publish their own games?


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Comment #5 by xduderx
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:39:31 PM
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Sucks man, every day I lean more and more to ps4


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Comment #6 by Frankie Godskin
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:40:12 PM
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I waited for months for Stranger's Wrath to be brought to the XBLA, but MS wouldn't budge on their file size restrictions. Bought it on PSN instead.


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Comment #7 by ZedChuva
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:44:07 PM
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How dare Microsoft want money and control over what goes on their platform. Fucking communists!!

:/


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Comment #8 by creaper210
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:45:14 PM
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@7 Sony isn't doing this?


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Comment #9 by Infomouse
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:45:24 PM
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Thankfully Don't Starve and Transistor are coming to PS4.


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Comment #10 by psybOltOn
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:46:55 PM
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Forget One, bring Abe to 360 and I'm buying it.

I really can't see any reason why should you have a publisher when you already have a cult following your games.
MS also stupid to miss out on a chance to earn a lot: no publisher - much lower price - much more sold unit - they get their share after every sold unit - win-win-win.


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Comment #11 by CASCADEYOUTH
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 02:52:58 PM
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All these games will be on pc anyway


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Comment #14 by Shiftie
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 03:03:48 PM
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It would be a smart move for a big publisher to cash in on this and take the big Indie developers under it's wing and act as a gateway to the x1. Both for money and good faith from Indie devs and Indie fans.


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Comment #15 by cheevo360
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 03:15:18 PM
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I knew this will be since Microsoft is most 1st party publisher who want money most of time then Sony and Nintendo did. I think Sony and Nintendo is best 1st party publishers because they let developers take time, give their choice and freedom as well listen to fans as alway. :)

Microsoft did it with some of games but not many games. You knew there so many bad news about Microsoft. They not listen to fans many times in recent years. But they bought some great XBLAs though.

At least I am pleased with Microsoft to bring more exclusive titles for Xbox One then they did with Xbox 360. But hard to believe if Microsoft ignore to bring more exclusive titles for Xbox One in future. You knew Microsoft bought lots of exclusive titles for Xbox 360 around launched until 2008 or 2009 then Xbox 360 got less. I unsure if Microsoft going same route for Xbox One expect downloadable games which is Microsoft is big forced on downloadable games. :)

It is happen all times with many business outside of gaming business.

I support all top gaming 1st party publishers and no matter if they have own reasons from let down to surprises. :)


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Comment #16 by ThePumpkinKing
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 03:32:48 PM
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So, the same bullshit as with Stranger's Wrath, then? They claimed it was file size restriction in the beginning. The JaW got it down under 2gb. And still, Microsoft wouldn't let them release it.

Fuck Microsoft.


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Comment #17 by I Like Sheep
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 03:39:43 PM
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@12/13 I will see you on the PSN my friend!

i will also see many of you when it is announced that DayZ comes exclusively to PS4


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Comment #18 by asilent boom
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 03:42:08 PM
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@4 EA is not independent developer, they own several development studios. For a developer to be independent it means the aren't owned or have any publishing deals with anyone.


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Comment #20 by Spanish Assault
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 04:35:17 PM
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whatever....Arma would be a game I would be into. I have lost all faith in M$.


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Comment #21 by The Kingslayer
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 04:54:45 PM
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Is there any sane people working at Microsoft HQ ?


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Comment #22 by Zenka The Myth
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 04:55:02 PM
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Can't see what would be so hard for them to get a publisher. If the random carp on indie marketplace can, why can't they? Especially if they seem so passionate about it.


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Comment #23 by Emperor 95
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:06:03 PM
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@4 EA is a publisher...'-'


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Comment #24 by Mr Cogfather
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:15:15 PM
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I love Microsoft and unlike alot of people...I'm actually looking forward to the new Xbox One and not switching to PS4. However I do agree with some people that Microsoft needs to cut the price on updates and make it where Indie Game Dev's don't need a Publisher because if you look at PC DayZ is obviously doing very well....I would've loved to see it come to Xbox One. Oh well maybe some day. :)


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Comment #25 by Terrin
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:20:18 PM
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At gamescon ms has to announce something for indie developers


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Comment #26 by themetalenock
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:23:26 PM
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i find it quite amusing most people are"derp see yer on psn!" when you can get 95 percent of these indie games on steam.you don't even need to upgrade your rig to play!.just download ,connect a wired xbox controller,and play!


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Comment #27 by l.maciver
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:23:57 PM
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And yet another nail in the coffin, how many is that now by the way?


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Comment #28 by hobbes ME
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 05:55:27 PM
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Is abe coming to 360?
Because I've been checking the oddworld site and the publisher seems to be an issue for 360 version as well.

I'm getting more and more pissed off with Microsoft.



Winter is coming...


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Comment #29 by GamePlayUK
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 06:29:19 PM
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gay


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Comment #30 by a hippyslayer
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 06:42:03 PM
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Wish I knew how this works. If you can self fund wouldn't it be as easy as saying we are developer and a publishing company? Do you have to have an additional business license?


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Comment #31 by Don Jose
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 07:00:36 PM
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I'm just glad the author didn't call it the "Xbone"


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Comment #32 by DecadentBeaver
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 07:00:39 PM
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That's a pretty crap move on Microsofts behalf. Why should they have to get a publisher? If they can do it alone, then they should be allowed. Especially as they have proven themselves. Microsoft are quickly becoming the nazis of the gaming world. Like all my friends on Xbox, I am going to be heading over to Playstation anyway, but this sort of arrogance just makes me want to even more.


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Comment #33 by MasterKingz
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 07:10:25 PM
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An Abe's Oddyssey game is a console seller for me, Im waiting Microsoft, I don't have a reason to buy Xbox One yet.


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Comment #34 by asilent boom
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 07:13:42 PM
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@22 It's not that it's hard to find a publisher for their games, it's publishers aren't free and not all are easy to work with. A publisher would either take a good chunk of the profits or want control of the IP.


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Comment #35 by A Medium Bear
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 08:50:17 PM
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@17 If you think that DayZ will be a PS4 exclusive you obviously need to get a clue.


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Comment #36 by Terrin
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 09:02:25 PM
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#36 Microsoft hasn't announced there indie plans so they could easily say we are allowing self publishing to but also that could be a horrible thing I can see ps4 getting flooded with medicore to terrible games like the xbox live indie games so I hope they allow self publishing but it has to game has to be approved things like day z and abes should be just given the go ahead


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Comment #37 by Crims0nPenguin
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 09:58:19 PM
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What happened to that "Oh biggest supporter of Indie games" Microsoft was touting at E3, oh wait just some more BS to promote their stuff.


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Comment #38 by Fullbrook
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 10:04:30 PM
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I know its the same news team over on the sister site, but i hope that'll float you here, cuz no collector, casual gamer, ect is buying this garbage. Ms got cocky just like atari, nintendo, sony, now we're back to sony. No one with any sense would buy this shit.


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Comment #39 by Fullbrook
Friday, June 14, 2013 @ 10:08:14 PM
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@38.. Sad thing is.. I am an xbox live ambassador.. and they totally have lost me as a customer..


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Comment #40 by My iron lung
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 01:47:10 AM
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@7 I agree!


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Comment #41 by xYuki
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 02:14:16 AM
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Honestly Microsoft doesn't give two shits about their fans. Their just greedy selfish bastard that just want money to fill their pockets. Sigh, I actually liked what I saw about Xbox One. But I'm not getting it. Instead I'm going to buy a desktop to support my PC games better. This a FUCK YOU Microsoft message, bye Xbox.


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Comment #42 by Hayabusa66
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 03:18:26 AM
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Well another great move by MS. Really ?
At a time that crowdfunding is so popular because PUBLISHERS DONT WANT TO RISK certain Projects.
So Fans donating money they can get realised...sure they dont have nad dont need a Publisher anymore. LOL this is soooooooooooooo wrong.


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Comment #43 by ZombieDisco5150
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 04:55:37 AM
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Someone on Polygon actually raised a good point about this yesterday -

“People that have been around the PC world for the last 10+ years know this answer. Many PC games were sold broken. I don’t mean a few bugs, but broken. MS is saying you will NOT submit broken stuff and cheat people out of their money. Many times companies rush patches and break new stuff with each update. Happens all the time. So, they have an oversight setup to make sure the quality of the game is up to snuff.”

I get that in the past some Xbox games have had game-breaking bugs (Bethesda are the big offender here) but it is very rare. Last of Us yesterday had a game-breaking save bug that had to be quickly fixed...it is really unfair to the indies that they have to pay and MS still have a few months to change their policies but to a certain extent it makes sense.


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Comment #44 by Sabre45
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 04:56:36 AM
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Wow I kinda feel sorry for Lorne Lanning. He works for Microsoft in the past and when he wants to put Oddworld: New ‘n’ Tasty on the Xbox One, he's told that he can't because he has to have a publisher... talk about a slap in the face from your old boss.

And this news is really bad for Microsoft, especially when you read things like: "Sony lets you self-publish and they don’t make you pay for updates.” Just saying...


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Comment #45 by TheWeasel
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 05:42:52 AM
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M$ has just become more greedy when it comes to the next gen console, and hopefully it bites them in ass.


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Comment #46 by thewordis
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 07:37:09 AM
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Every bit of news that comes out for the xbox one is just making my decision to get a ps4 insted of the xbox one


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Comment #47 by GR4V1G0R3
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 08:33:23 AM
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And this is why I hope MS fail next gen, all they care about is money, and keeping EA & Activision happy..well they can keep their DRM ridden shite, I have my pc, and maybe a ps4 in 3 years or so (whenever gran Turismo 7 comes out


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Comment #48 by TeAmExTrEmE737
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 10:10:45 AM
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Microsoft... this is going to be your sale once the Xbox One comes out VVVVV
And this is going to be PS4's ^^^^


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Comment #49 by Zoron
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 10:43:10 AM
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Guess it's not that bad that State of Decay won't be on PS3 or PS4 then. While a fantstic game, DayZ is still better imo.


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Comment #50 by saint118118
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 11:17:05 AM
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if they have state of decay i dont see how they cant have dayz on the xbox one


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Comment #51 by RDrules
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 11:23:14 AM
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@43 this is a completely different matter

being forced to have a publisher isnt a form of quality control... in fact i dont really see what it accomplishes they can still run checks to make sure everythings of a certain standard while allowing people to self publish

of course if they really did care about quality control they wouldnt force devs to pay a fortune to patch those game breaking bugs out like ms do either like with say FEZ for instance


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Comment #52 by coullgfx
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 02:31:38 PM
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I can see why a lot of people would decide not to buy an xbox one and instead go for a ps4, I mean how can you live your lives without a remake of a 16 year old game.

In fact no I cant, it is ridiculous, who gives a shit, go buy a ps1 from a car boot sale for a fiver.

Most of us will be balls deep in destiny or bf4 to even care about this shit


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Comment #53 by I Like Sheep
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 02:42:34 PM
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@35 what evidence do you have to argue against it being exclusive to PS4 (im obviously excluding PC)? Based on this article, which shockingly is what i based my thoughts on, it doesnt look like its coming to xbox one as of right now. did you read the article? id like to quote Mr. Lee:

"...but as it stands neither title is coming to the system, thanks in part to Microsoft’s policies."

No clue eh? note that the phrase here is "as it stands". nothing here is concrete.




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Comment #54 by Kivlov
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 03:37:37 PM
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This type of thing is what kills indie developers and any chance of a half decent game to come out.

I really hope we can get a free to use, free to create for next gen box. Something like the Ouya only next gen. We need the steam box.


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Comment #55 by XxMayhemxX
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 03:49:36 PM
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Wow... Just wow.. Just when ou think M$ can't possibly do anything more to piss off.. well, practically everyone. Now they have another mark against them, in an amazingly huge laundry list of fuckups...

Sorry to say, but Anyone.. and I mean ANYONE who is STILL defending M$ is an idiot.. plain and simple... this isn't up for ..opinion.. this is FACT...

Went to my local Gamestop the other day to pick up a replacement for my Hitman Absolution(side note... pay full price when one of your discs accidently breaks,,, lol not me...`used games are awesome...)
As I was browsing the store clerk got a phone call, seems the customer originally asked to reserve a PS4.. but before just doing so, he was a smart customer asking all the questions about both systems. The store clerk, as I just stood their browsing, listening in, and smiling, went through all the bullet points for each system... being as unbaised as possible... and sadly having to explain to the customer twice, that the xbone has "check in" online every 24 hours, to play single player games, and the fact there will probably be a hefty fee if he plans on buying used games for it. The store clerk actaullly had to repeat himself on both of those.. so i can piece together what the customer on the phone was saying.. WHAT? The guy was just full of questions, it was kinda of a long call.

After the call, I asked the store clerk, "You get alot of ppl asking about these things , don't you." The clerk goes yup... He goes on to explain how he has to provide all the information, to customers, without being biased, which is hard to do, and he said it's not his fault or Gamestops fault this is happening, it's all M$ doing, and that he has to explain that to the customers as well. Then him and I talked about the issues. The clerk was just baffled as to why M$ would have some of these policies and alienate gamers and indie developers.

I asked, how many systems do you guys get shipped to you... The guy said it all depends, but the first amount is actually based on preorders.. He said, they got 15 of each. I asked him, how many preorders of each do you have? He said technically he is not supposed to tell anyone, but then went ahead and told me, all 10 xbones, and 16 PS4's. He said they got the go ahead today for 6 more PS4's to cover preorders. I suspect more if there is more preorders as well. $100 down if I wanted one.. I didn't... yet.. He also said his store got the most consoles, out of 2 other Gamestop stores in town also, since they do the most business.

I'm going to take a guess that this scenerio is being played out all over the world...

Before i get all thumbs down.. I used to play only ps1,and ps2. Got both a 360 and a ps3, but play all non exclusives on my 360. Switching to PS4. I'll still be on 360 til they shut off the servers and all my boughten arcade games turn into demos forever.


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Comment #56 by RDrules
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 04:06:09 PM
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@52 are you completely incapable of looking into the deeper meaning of it? yeah ok abes oddessy isnt coming but the reason why goes for every indie game there is "give up your rights to a publisher or go home" is basically what theyre saying and while theyre doing this sony have grabbed dont starve... which is AMAZING and will probably never make it to xbox due to shit like this so yeah


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Comment #57 by XxNsLDiViNexX
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 04:18:42 PM
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FORGET ABOUT MICROSOFT!


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Comment #58 by Grummy
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 04:42:14 PM
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@55 no, actually, it's opinion and only opinion. The reason being is that all of the BS being thrown around is just a pessimistic view of things when there are more positive explanations.

Take the 2nd hand issue, most people assume it means MS want to block 2nd hand games, but it could just as easily be a function to allow Publishers to negotiate with retailers for a fair cut of the 2nd hand market, hence why the online passes were dropped. If I'm right, it means that 2nd hand sales would be BETTER on the One than the PS4.

I'm not saying for definite that this will happen, and I'm not saying that Microsoft are entirely blameless (this indie thing is inexcusable), but on most things, they're the victims of bad press and shockingly bad PR, not of actually having bad strategies.


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Comment #59 by treo9
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 08:47:55 PM
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This is actually a really bad decision from M$, and one that will bite them in the ass, sad really, the XBone will miss out on so many good little games.


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Comment #60 by xV Gypsy Vx
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 08:56:50 PM
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Wth?! Dead Rising 3 got me interested, but I'd so go for DayZ any day over any Dead Rising game! Why Microsoft? Why you got to be a dumbass?


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Comment #61 by bigsilentrob
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 10:04:11 PM
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Bill Gates = Adolph Hitler


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Comment #62 by bryson 06
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 10:52:49 PM
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@61 Bill Gates is not making decisions any more. You got the wrong guy.


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Comment #63 by Finn Jake n BMO
Saturday, June 15, 2013 @ 11:53:08 PM
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@19 EA is also a developer so he is right.


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Comment #64 by iMrLeMoN
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 05:53:31 AM
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EA has ruined Microsoft completely with there stupid partnership, this is the reason why used games aren't allowed on the Shit(x)box One because EA are heavily against used games in general and piracy.... So Thankyou EA

I think Microsoft actually want people to buy the PS4 they sure are going the right way about it, I've been a loyal Xboxer for years but I think it's now time to make the move to Playstation. Pro-tip Microsoft don't be cocky when showcasing a games console, whoops sorry I meant a "Entertainment System" its clearly got you nowhere.

The only way Microsoft are going to get Sales is the stupid children wanting the DLC for Call of Duty and Battlefield first on Xbox, that's all they have to go on. I would only get an Xbox One just for Forza and maybe Halo.

Anyway rant is over make your choice of console guys but, I would now recommend the PS4 and PC of course


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Comment #65 by iMrLeMoN
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 05:58:44 AM
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Everyone Thumbs up #55


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Comment #66 by ID e IM i S e
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 07:48:22 AM
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I hope that the XBONE will be worth the money :/


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Comment #67 by ash356
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 08:17:24 AM
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@64
Debatably wrong. If you keep up-to-date, EA have vehemently denied having anything to do with these used game restrictions. They've even called their online pass system a 'mistake'.
Of course, this could all just be covering their own ass, but in the wake of Riccitiello, I'd like to think they're capable of turning themselves around.


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Comment #68 by Hitomi
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 02:47:59 PM
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those games sound so fun.


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Comment #70 by dormantBEAST
Sunday, June 16, 2013 @ 03:17:07 PM
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Guys, I hate seeing things like this. It makes me sad. I love Indie games. It doesn't take much room to store, or keep on a server, and they are loads of fun. Indie games stay true to the title, "Indie." Think about all of the mods and the games you wouldn't be playing unless you saw someone else playing it? How many people actually go out of their ways to find games? A shit ton of people, me being one of them. DayZ blew up because of forum sites like this. I haven't seen an ad anywhere. DayZ is the perfect example of an Indie game. It has sold phenomenally. I am buying Xbone in hopes of the company's epiphany. Once they see the crappy sales, maybe some good will come to the system. PS4 for now though. Screw M$!


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Comment #71 by iMrLeMoN
Monday, June 17, 2013 @ 05:38:23 AM
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@69 Yeah I've had enough of Microsoft's shenanigans, another thing I'm not too happy with on how the games work on the Xbox One. Apparently if you get banned from Xbox Live in any way on the Xbox One you will lose access to any and all game licenses tied to your account, so that means your basically "Renting" the games that you buy.... I'm sorry but if you Buy a game you expect to have if forever, not until you get banned for some Bullshit reason.

So if that isn't enough for you guys also check this photo out https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/993009_323076571157952_1768655532_n.png

People who are probably going thumbs down me again, I'm not being biased in anyway but the Xbox One has problems. That's coming from a person that has been a Loyal Xbox'r from day one.


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