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Defense Grid: The Awakening
Free Xbox Live Gold Games Offer May Continue, Says Major Nelson
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Microsoft may extend the free Xbox Live Gold games program beyond its Christmas cut off point, Major Nelson has suggested.

Announced at E3, the promotion, which sees Xbox Live Gold members receive two free games to keep per month, was initially planned to run up until the release of the Xbox One.

However, according to the Director of Programming it may continue.  "Anything is possible," said Major Nelson on Reddit, adding “we'll see how the program goes."

Over the weekend it was revealed that Defense Grid: The Awakening will be free from July 1st to July 15th. The news came as a surprise to many, who expected the promotion to offer games of the same kind of quality as provided by Sony PS Plus scheme.

Major Nelson said that he has made the marketing department (which presumably which free games will arrive) aware of the discontent. 

Halo 3 and Assassin’s Creed II have been promised to arrive as part of the promotion at a later date, despite earlier reports to the contrary.




 
 

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Comment #1 by J Prime
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:54:08 AM
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As long as they release decent games, I don't want to see anymore 6+ year old games or games like Vampire Rain.


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Comment #2 by Creasy47
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:54:40 AM
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Free is free, but is Defense Grid worth it?


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Comment #3 by Chibiuk
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:55:55 AM
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@2 lol Its free you answered your own question


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Comment #4 by the action frampton
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:56:42 AM
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@1 don't give them the idea! Vampire Rain, god...

Looks like they are listening again, so hopefully we will see some really good games soon.


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Comment #5 by KirbyTheAlmighty
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:56:54 AM
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I'm fine with Defense Grid. It's a game I've wanted to play, but never got around to buying.


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Comment #6 by Bleeding Star
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:58:38 AM
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I played the demo and enjoyed it, definitely happy with it if they decide to stick with their choice.. just wish theyd make it available


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Comment #7 by UK x Jok3r x
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:59:48 AM
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so Halo and Assassin's creed 2 will be the only non arcade games? I expected Halo to be free till the 15th, assassins creed from the 15th to the end of the month and the same next month but with 2 other retail games. Free is free though I guess.


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Comment #8 by ademlakey
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:00:43 PM
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Halo 3 is currently £2 at GAME anyway.


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Comment #9 by thewordis
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:00:43 PM
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i cant remember them saying halo 3 and AC 2 were going to be the first games going to be free.


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Comment #10 by Aerobillybob
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:00:43 PM
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Where did everyone believe ac2 was coming out for free on the 1st if it wasn't confirmed by xbox.


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Comment #11 by FroZeNSouL
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:00:56 PM
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Defence grid is great game.
But there is 2 dlc packs atleast that are overpriced.
Even if DefenceGrid & Ass1 & halo3 were free 2day, its still rather Meh peace offering.

Pull your finger out ms and GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY THAT BUILT YOU AND STILL IS!!!


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Comment #12 by strawberry
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:01:10 PM
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@2 Free? We pay 60 bucks a year... It's not really free lol


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Comment #13 by KcazIsKewl
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:01:49 PM
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Don't most people have AC2, so bring on Defense Grid a game most people haven't played.


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Comment #14 by T0X1C Z0MB1E TZ
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:02:03 PM
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(which presumably which free games will arrive)

Lee, spelling error mate? :L


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Comment #15 by Da Beni Man
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:04:16 PM
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its nice to see that they are "reviewing" the discontent, I guess it's just people who are seeing Sony as a better alternative, and to them I say go for them.

And here's hoping they do carry on after Christmas :D


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Comment #16 by Yourburntstar
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:04:21 PM
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it would've been better if you just allowed the consumer to CHOOSE his own 2 games for free each month. considering that I've have had Xbox Live Gold for 10 years which totals $600 alone.

but ya know thats cool to lead me on to believe one thing then re-can't on your initial statement later down the road.


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Comment #17 by Bleeding Star
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:04:52 PM
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@12 you pay the subscription to use the service, it's clearly free because its at no extra cost to what you are already paying and would still be paying with or without this promotion


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Comment #18 by superdred
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:07:56 PM
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Lol at microsoft. Yet again going back on their original word, at this rate i don't even believe the xbox one can play games! Sort it out msoft and just be honest in press releases


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Comment #19 by Creasy47
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:09:31 PM
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@3, herpes can be free, but it wouldn't be worth it.

I do agree, though, I hope we get some bigger games while they keep this up, not random Arcade games that are already 'cheap,' in a way. My question, though, is that if they keep this up with the XB1, what will be free on there? If they aren't bringing over 360 games or Arcade games, does that mean a launch title might be free? Because I'll be incredibly bitter if I spend $60+ on a game and it's suddenly free the following week.


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Comment #20 by PluralAces
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:10:49 PM
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truth of the matter is...very game that they make free you should download, hard drive space permitting of course, I am pretty sure they are going to monitor how many downloads, how many people play it, etc... to determine if the program is successful...if nobody downloads games, they are going to scrap the program, so I plan to download everything they make free, even if I don't like what they are offering...


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Comment #21 by Theslatcher
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:11:24 PM
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"despite earlier reports to the contrary"

Listen to what they said on E3 again, they never said "We'll start off with these games", they said that two of the games that would be offered through this offer was AC2 and Halo 3.


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Comment #22 by Hurricane Of 87
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:11:56 PM
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Don Mattrick just left Microsoft for Zynga, I'm reading. WHERE'S YOUR SPINE SON?

http://tinyurl.com/or66k8l


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Comment #23 by asilent boom
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:16:20 PM
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Maybe they'll continue it? That's hilarious. They are going to make a lot of money off people buying DLC for those "free games" and some people will even buy more games in the franchise. Of course they'll continue something that makes them money. MS doesn't do anything unless they make money off of it.


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Comment #24 by UK x Jok3r x
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:17:42 PM
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@23 that's business.


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Comment #25 by SuperWoody64
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:18:47 PM
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Defense Grid is awesome, I'd rather have the dlc for free instead though. If they gave us a list of games to pick from this would be better since I own a ton of games the odds of me owning all the giveaways is really high.


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Comment #26 by asilent boom
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:19:24 PM
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@22 I hope that's true.

@24 I know. That's why I said of course they will continue something that makes them money.


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Comment #27 by Skid Row Trash
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:22:50 PM
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Defense Grid is probably one of the best, if the THE BEST tower defense game on XBLA.. However, I was expecting another on demand style freelease, Defense grid is 800 msp.


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Comment #28 by jkeeton04
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:23:22 PM
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defense grid is still 800 msp why haven't they updated it yet


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Comment #29 by Legendary801
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:24:30 PM
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lol "May" which means-

May**** W/ Purchase of 5000 MS Points a month we'll give two games which you've probably already played and beaten 4 years ago.


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Comment #31 by Mad Bro Mike
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:31:15 PM
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'(which presumably which free games will arrive)'

You accidentally a word there.


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Comment #32 by Johnny Kent
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:44:32 PM
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A free game is always good, but I really was looking forward AC2...maybe July 16...


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Comment #33 by bob101910
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:44:52 PM
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Defense Grid is really good. What's the problem?


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Comment #34 by A 7thProduction
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 12:51:04 PM
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Maybe the game quality difference is because Microsoft will let us own the games whereas you don't own Sony's games. You lose them if you cancel whatever their membership is.


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Comment #35 by chach7171
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:01:08 PM
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Xbox gold has become harder for me to justify to my friends who have ps+ I pay microsoft for MP and the ABILITY to use netflix. Then I have to pay netflix, Oh and we get old games half of us either played or had no interest in playing. Meanwhile they get infamous and the walking dead telltale game for free...


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Comment #36 by DFizzle720
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:01:18 PM
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Obviously great to have free stuff, and I can attest to Defense Grid being an awesome game, but what's with the bait and switch? Microsoft said themselves that the first two games would be AC2 and Halo didn't they? Then suddenly the weekend before that turns into Defense Grid?

As I said, free is awesome and I would highly recommend everyone try out Defense Grid as I enjoyed it, along with the DLCs, when it came out, but if they weren't sure what was going to actually be offered why say anything in advance. I was definitely looking forward to diving into AC2.


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Comment #37 by tmeadows34
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:10:24 PM
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@36 Ac2 and H3 were said to be the first two available in their E3 press conference


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Comment #38 by Caramel Cardinal
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:26:18 PM
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i'll be honest i'd rather have an old full retail game then i newer arcade game, of course an old arcade game is worst of all, this should have all it's dlc for free aswell


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Comment #39 by Ginormous76
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:26:28 PM
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@16 If you had Gold the last 10 years, you would not have paid $600. They increased the price from $50 to $60 a few years ago. Also, why aren't you looking for deals? I don't think I've paid more than $40.


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Comment #40 by tmeadows34
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:27:12 PM
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you know what I stand corrected
"...I like to announce just 2 of the titles were going to kick off in the next few months; Assassins creed 2 and Halo 3." -Yusuf Mehdi @ E3


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Comment #41 by PSNgaviota1195
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:33:37 PM
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I fucking knew it. No fanboyism here, but I just fucking knew they would do this. The moment they said that it was gonna be yours even after gold expires, I just knew that the game had to be at least 3-4 years old. In that instance, I knew the feature was not gonna surpass PS+. I meant think about it! If you got the chance to download DMC (2013), then it would be about $30-$40 of cash lost! This feature is nearly worthless, it pretty much just helps those that are joining the xbox community recently. From that perspective, yeah, it's good to give them these kinds of games to them, but what about the rest of us?!? The people that have been with you for years? Look, I can go to my local Gamestop right now, and get Halo 3 for around $5! What point is there now for me to chose your service over the PS+? Im really trying my hardest to be fair with the Xbox One. But PS4 really has EVERY advantage over the Xbox One. I could go on and give you legit reasons, but I don't want to piss off people, so I will leave it here.


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Comment #42 by G4M3 CHANGER
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:44:07 PM
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I think people are a little upset because,

PS+: Saints Row 3
Deus Ex
X COM Enemy Unknown

MS: Defense Grid

hopefully they keep this going through the xbone


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Comment #43 by G4M3 CHANGER
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:50:18 PM
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@16 They just gave everyone with 10years free xbox360s that alone makes up for most of the $$ spent on gold


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Comment #44 by condemmedman
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 01:55:21 PM
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Microsoft have pretty much ruined all they have built up in a flurry of awful pr mistakes. I don't think I'm going to renew my live not because of Sony but because of ms. :-[


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Comment #45 by PluralAces
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:00:22 PM
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PS+ has 18 games (12 for PS3 and 6 for PS Vita) you can download for free right now if you sign up. Microsoft really needs to step its game up in terms of offering free stuff.


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Comment #46 by DJSeth227
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:08:59 PM
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Ive been fine for 4 years without getting any games what so ever, even so, i cant download GoD games in my country and im still happy, so say thank you and stfu people sheesh.


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Comment #47 by anonymous ferret
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:10:26 PM
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Sorry Lee Bradley but they never set a date for AC2 or H3.

You wildly assumed they would be first. The link was to your own post on it. Where's your source? Bad intelligence.


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Comment #48 by FSparacino4
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:10:42 PM
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@Everyone complaining: As soon as you cancel your PS+ service, you lose all your "free games". At least once you download the games from XBL, they are forever yours. Microsoft never had to give anyone free games, but they did and people are still ungrateful. If you think PS+ is a better program, that's great, no sweat off anyone's back. I'm sure Sony will be glad to have your business.

Also, nowhere did Microsoft ever say that the first two games would be AC2 or Halo 3. So again stop pulling shit out of your ass, when it was never said. It was clearly stated that AC2 and Halo 3 would be two of the free titles offered through this promotion, but it was never stated at what point. It's the 2nd round of these free games and every1 is crying "I deserve more!!" The only thing the crybabies deserve is a swift kick in the nuts.


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Comment #49 by PSNgaviota1195
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:14:18 PM
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@48 I think you forgot to say that if you renew the PS+ Service, all the games you got for free are playable again.


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Comment #50 by Poppa Krunch
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:17:49 PM
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to be honest i wouldn't mind seein arcade games thrown in the mix as long as it continues, im just glad to see some kind of return for the subscription fee. But gotta say i would prefer a better selection, im sure microsoft is able to see that pretty much everyone has played fable 3 by now


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Comment #51 by killerlightning
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:19:08 PM
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They really need to fire everyone in the Xbox division, b/c I swear these people are really stupid. Maybe the Don leaving is a sign to Microsoft to get rid of the rest of the people behind the horrible PR that was and still is Xbox One. You try and be on par with PSPlus and you offer a Xbox Live arcade game, a 10 dollar value, really? Need to get your act together, this kind of stuff makes it easier and easier for me to get a PS4. The only reason I still have a Xbox Gold Account is bc my friends play on it and like doing co-op and MP with them


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Comment #52 by jkeeton04
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:20:41 PM
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is everyone sure it's defense grid because i'm not getting it free


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Comment #53 by AOS Puck
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:22:05 PM
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Microsoft never said that AC2 & Halo 3 would be the July games, however Xbox Support did.
https://twitter.com/xboxkid510/status/351525397868986368/photo/1

Personally, I'm glad Defense Grid is free since I bought both Halo 3 & AC2 on release date and already 100% both of them.


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Comment #54 by dazman100
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:27:45 PM
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I think some expected AC2 and H3 to be the next free games because of kinda how it as presented, i mean if they are the best games that they chosen out of all they have planned it doesn't really look that promising. i would personally have chosen two newish games to get people proper exited to renew all their gold subs.


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Comment #55 by F TANK
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:31:43 PM
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Its looking more and more like they're only going to offer really old stuff that, while may have been popular, is stuff that just Bout everyone has already owned/played. And then the rest is crap nobody wanted to buy in the first place.


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Comment #56 by F TANK
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:33:43 PM
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And I should add a "what the fuck?!" because nobody gives a shit about free arcade games. Nobody thinks that those should count towards the 2 free games a month. LAME!!!


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Comment #57 by killerlightning
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:37:51 PM
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I think a lot of people including myself are mad bc it is not a full retail release one. Sure people still would complain bc it is Halo 3, but still a full retail game, compared to the slap in the face arcade game we get.


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Comment #58 by alf hockeyfan
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:44:44 PM
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I went to download it today and it wasn`t free!


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Comment #59 by Ryuzakira
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:52:59 PM
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not sounding ungrateful....but PS Plus...same price...3 free games a month FULL! games....xbox...2 games a month....Arcade games....seriously MS...get yer shit together


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Comment #60 by Creasy47
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 02:59:43 PM
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@58, same.

@59, games = plural. They've offered one GoD, one Arcade game, and two more GoD titles are confirmed.


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Comment #61 by Fire Mage
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:06:57 PM
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http://www.technobuffalo.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/PlayStation-Plus-Year-One-Free-Games.png

Uhhh... the PS+ list is pretty staggering in comparison to what Microsoft plans to release so far.

MS is only really giving decently old games that most people who have been longtime subscribers will have, like ACII and Halo 3.


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Comment #62 by blackholes
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:08:17 PM
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Not free for me :/


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Comment #63 by InsaneKane87
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:16:02 PM
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I would rather see other popular games besides Halo 3 and AC2. I played AC2 when it first came out and I've never been a fan of Halo. But, whatever comes out I am willing to give a try.


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Comment #64 by jkeeton04
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:38:19 PM
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i was told by xbox support due to it being them updating it for every continent it wont be free till later today


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Comment #65 by Creasy47
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:38:41 PM
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While PS+ might have a better selection, you still have to notice that it's going to be mandatory for online (just like Gold) come the PS4. The games are still free, no matter what they are.


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Comment #66 by TheRequiem95
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:38:59 PM
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It's 3:30 in the afternoon in Texas at the moment, and the game isn't showing as free for me. I suppose I can assume that the "Ultimate Game Sale" isn't starting until tomorrow, either?


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Comment #67 by FSparacino4
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:45:53 PM
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@49 I didnt forget to mention anything, because the fact of the matter is that unless you are paying for it you dont get to keep your games, whereas if you stop paying for XBL you can still play all those games.

I just dont get why when Microsoft makes an "unpopular" decision, people are up in arms, but Sony can do whatever they want, people have nothing to say. For example, no one conplained that Sony's PS+ will be required to play PS4 online, but yet bitch at Microsoft for charging for XBL, when the game servers for Xbox games are much more stable.


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Comment #68 by Zoron
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 03:55:51 PM
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@66 Considering DotW always starts Tuesday, yes you can assume that. What's the rush to get Defense Grid? It'll be free for like 2 weeks.


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Comment #69 by scott.m
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:22:17 PM
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Complianing about paying a Gold membership, then complaining that the games arent good enough?
Seriously? MS has said many times, this promotion is to reward those who pay that subscription. Seriously you dont have to pay the subscription, you dont have to download the dlc, you get to keep the games unlike PSN. Think about it, its a reward. Be grateful, this online whining is getting old. If you're not happy with it, fuck off to ps3.
Im glad MS has done this, great incentive to keep the 360 for a while.


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Comment #70 by jkeeton04
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:22:52 PM
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ok so when i go to xbox.com and type in defense grid it says free above 800 but when i click on it, it says it still costs 800


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Comment #71 by ShinobiSteve81
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:25:04 PM
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On dash, it says free but wants 800 if you click on it. Xbox.com I got it free proper when I went to confirm purchase.


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Comment #72 by Crims0nPenguin
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:25:53 PM
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If xbox live wants to compete with PS+ this is feature they really want to keep, and improve. So far PS+ has everything Live has to offer and more.


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Comment #73 by DecadentBeaver
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:26:56 PM
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Lot of people kicking off her. Yeah, its an Arcade game, but its free. I don't like Tower Defense games, but I will get it as it saves me money. Don't like it, don't download it.


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Comment #74 by CyRu5 7h3 ViRu5
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:29:48 PM
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I don't know what people are bitching about ps+ gives psn games which is just like arcade games from MS so quit bitching at least MS is giving us gold members something. What I'm mad about is it took this long to decide to do this for their gamers.


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Comment #75 by jkeeton04
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:30:40 PM
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don't use google chrome or firefox it only worked for internet explorer for me


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Comment #76 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:31:51 PM
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@67 No one bitched that PS+ is required because of the quality/quantity of games you get. Also will have a PS4 title, and arcade title on launch, which probably makes it easier to stomach.

I'll check out defense grid, not sure it is something I like. And I will grab Battlefield 3 for free tomorrow on PS+, since I was planning on lending out my 360 copy to a friend now that the online passes are gone.



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Comment #77 by Tim 13
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:32:23 PM
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12: Yeah, it is. Because at this time last year, we were paying $60 a year for just the online service. Now we're paying the same amount, and we're also getting full games at the same time.

71: Confirmed; it appears as 800 MSP, and after you click download, they verify that you are willing to pay the price of "Free."


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Comment #78 by StinkyPete2021
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:38:41 PM
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@12- Damn you pay $60 a year; I'm paying $40 right now.


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Comment #79 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:42:43 PM
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I am glad MS are taking a page from Sony's book. Now we just need to work on the deal of the week, hopefully that is next.


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Comment #80 by PSNgaviota1195
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:49:40 PM
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@67 uhhh...I hate to point this out, but yes, you did -_-

"As soon as you cancel your PS+ service, you lose all your "free games". At least once you download the games from XBL, they are forever yours. Microsoft never had to give anyone free games, but they did and people are still ungrateful. If you think PS+ is a better program, that's great, no sweat off anyone's back. I'm sure Sony will be glad to have your business."

This statement you made clearly says that PS+ takes aways your games forever and that's the part that's bullshit. Look, I don't hate you and I don't hate Xbox. If I make a mistake, I will admit it as long as it can be proven. If you are mistaken, then it's our right to correct you, as long as we don't act like an ass and we can prove it.


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Comment #81 by macd
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 04:53:12 PM
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I really like Defence Grid. I have it on 360 and on Steam too. For all achievements you need some DLC too but it isn't hard as you could follow youtube setups if you can't develop your own.


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Comment #82 by TheSipuli91
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:34:32 PM
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Old retail games plus arcade games? MS, you're doing it wrong.


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Comment #83 by aspa
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:35:20 PM
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@Yeah, except security and stability.


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Comment #84 by aspa
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:36:39 PM
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my post above is directed to #72


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Comment #85 by FSparacino4
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:37:31 PM
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@80 Again, I never used the word forever, so stop making shit up. All I said was as soon as you stop paying, you can't access the games that you downloaded for free. So in essence, Microsoft's system is better in the fact that actually get to keep your game. Maybe that's why the games Microsoft is giving for free are older than the PS+ titles.


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Comment #86 by bigdaddy1622
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:38:18 PM
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I will have to check on it tomorrow, but right now it is showing Fable 3 as the free for gold and Defence Grid is showing 800 Microsoft points


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Comment #87 by Kaiyo
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:41:03 PM
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PS+ gets Battlefield 3 while we get a sh*tty arcade game.


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Comment #88 by Desobomber
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 05:48:11 PM
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Everyone is whining and complaining over this, but by paying for XBL you get the best online service that is better protected and has a bigger online community. Every time I read comments its "Wahh to this" or "Wahh to that".
But you'll forget about this in a day so why bother? Just wait... Sony will go brick people's PS3's for another couple weeks and the bandwagons will shift. Just saying!

OT: Defense Grid looks solid, definitely gonna pick it up


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Comment #89 by Mullet For Men
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:00:12 PM
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So are we not to believe anything x360a writes anymore? They have a link in the article saying that Free for Gold begins with AcII and Halo 3


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Comment #90 by PSNgaviota1195
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:02:49 PM
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@85 Your are getting slightly off topic. First of all, Im not making shit up, you unknowingly (From what I can assume) said that the PS+ takes away your games forever if you don't pay up. You don't need to say forever for someone to make that assumption. Second: The Idea and fact that you can keep them after gold expires is interesting and an edge over the PS+, but the price to pay for this makes it almost useless. Because you can keep it forever, The games MUST be very old in order to fit the criteria. If they putted up say for example: Halo4, it would be awesome for the Xbox players, but if they can keep it forever, then what's point in paying the xbox live for it? PS+ IGC is a renting service, if you download it, it's your forever. You can download it even after the offer is gone if you download it before it leaves, it will remain just as long as you stay subscribed. If your subscription expires, then you can't play the games until you pay for another subscription, but they are still there and like I said, if you delete them, you can download it again through the download history.
This is why I believe your wrong when you say it's better than PS+. What do you prefer? Being able to own games that are a year or few moths old through a service or to own indefinitely a game that's at least about 3 years old? It can benefit for those that are entering now to the Xbox, but what about the long hardcore fans? They get pretty much nothing. It sounds good from the surface, but take a good look inside and you will see how bad it really is in comparison.


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Comment #91 by chrishaney23
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:03:23 PM
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Free is not free people when PS+ gives you AAA titles all the time. Right now or just a bit ago, they had Uncharted 3 and Saints Row 3!!! XBOX needs to up their game more than big time. $10 more a year and we get nothing for it. You make out like a mad man on PS+. You basically never have to buy a game again with that. Best bargain out there, bar none!

I am on both sides of this argument though. I'd rather not have my info stolen and/or my console bricked (if I had one), just so ya's know!


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Comment #92 by ash356
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:08:12 PM
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If I recall, the last time Major Nelson 'alerted the marketing team' of anything, we got one of the worst months for DOTW in living memory.
So don't get your hopes up.


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Comment #93 by Sbeatly
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:11:18 PM
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I think is going to be arcade -> GoD -> arcade -> GoD etc...

If they were all GoD it would a better deal than PS+, for me anyways. I always wait 6+ months to renew, so PS+ would be kinda ballsy for me. But with GWD, I can keep 'em forever.


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Comment #94 by luuwat
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:24:45 PM
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these games have no value to them, they are old!


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Comment #95 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:44:47 PM
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@91, I am on both sides also.. but with recent titles like you said Uncharted 3, and Saints row the third last week. I also grabbed deux ex human revolution, xcom enemy unknown, the cave (600 msp last week for dotw) vanquish, and a few other arcade titles. Sleeping dogs.. battlefield 3.. kingdom of amalur.. the list goes on..

Comparing PS+ to the free games XBL is non comparable.

I love getting something back for my gold membership. And sure it is nice to be able to keep them after my membership lapses, but if it was something I wanted in my collection, it would be in my collection, regardless of which service is offering it. The point of both is for things you wouldn't necessarily buy. So if you don't keep them forever wtf does it matter? Both are "free"


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Comment #96 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:46:47 PM
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Not to mention the DEEP discounts for ps+ members.. Take a look at the ps blog for tomorrows sales, then look at deal of the week..


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Comment #97 by BurntToast
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 06:47:49 PM
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I really hope this is not a sign of things to come.. I know it's wrong to look a gift horse in the mouth, but Halo 3 and AC2 better not be the heavy hitters. If they want to give some free games as a thank you.. cool, But don't tout it as "Games for Gold" to combat PS+ program. MS you just look foolish with your lead off game being a 3 year old arcade game when the PS+ service is currently offering the following.. Saints Row III, XCOM, Uncharted 3, Deus Ex, Little Big Planet Karting, Machinarium,Pinball Arcade, The Cave, Knytt Underground, Malicious, Labyrinth Legends,Joe Danger 2 & tomorrow they get Battlefield 3 along with exclusive discounts of 10% - 75% on the PS Store.

With that being said I STILL prefer the Xbox live experience and achievement system over PS3 and it's trophies, but if GFG is supposed to go up against the PS+ program you need to nut up and put your big boy pans on MS.


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Comment #98 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 07:00:17 PM
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Ah forgot those, beat Machinarium pretty fun.. but Kyntt underground is awesome.. find myself lost for hours before I know it.


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Comment #99 by General Boredom
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 07:05:20 PM
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PS+ is currently offering Saints Row 3, Deus Ex: HR and XCOM: EU for free, and the best XBL can offer is a 4 year old tower defense game.


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Comment #100 by G4M3 CHANGER
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 07:17:37 PM
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@88 bigger community if your playing COD. I tried getting MOH online achievements but online is dead got the MOH Platinum last week and had good 300-400 people online for PS3 maybe 40-60 for xbox. same with bf3. ps3 has way more people spread out over a variety of games instead of just on a couple big name titles.

I don't care if you say im bitching and what not. Its insulting to say heres free games for gold and giving us $2.00 games that are 6-7 years old. I had no problem paying the 60 for gold a year without free shit now they just spit in all our faces. They should have never done this without thinking it through.


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Comment #101 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 07:49:14 PM
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@88 I also thought the same being exclusive to xbox.. yeah PSN got hacked, and i thought it was funny at the time too, until I researched into it more. Could say the same Major Nelson got "hacked". So what is stopping the rest of us? Maybe do your research before you spout your mouth.. there is more to it.


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Comment #102 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 07:53:29 PM
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@Myself, I realized he said bricked, so it was directed at whoever else said it.. It could happen to anyone. Look at harmonix when they announced no more DLC.. Huge DoS attack and took them offline.. MS is not invulnerable.


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Comment #103 by Fire Mage
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 08:41:28 PM
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@69:

Yeah, but Sony does it as a REWARD as well, so your point about it being a reward is moot, besides the fact that you can't keep games if you drop your PS+ subscription.

However, you said we don't have to pay the subscription but that's where you're wrong. PS+ people don't HAVE to pay the subscription, and they're getting great free games. Xbox Live people DO HAVE to pay in order to play, and Microsoft's free games are just basically showing their stinginess.

We're not "entitled" to free games, but PS+ for the PS3 is optional and they're getting GREAT games, whereas Xbox Live is required to play online and Microsoft is just making themselves look stingy with these offers.


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Comment #104 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 08:54:05 PM
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There is really you can debate about.. why should be have to pay... for either? I don't play online on PS but I have a PS+ membership.. for the discounts and AAA free games.

Why should we have to pay at all for playing online? For example.. We pay to play online.. and EA shuts their servers down.. so it is not going towards that.. It is a MS console, if we buy MS first party games.. why should we pay for that?

I am glad they are TRYing to make it worth our while.. but they have a HUGE way to go.


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Comment #105 by I mak3 big boom
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 08:55:25 PM
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Lol at this sad excuse for a rival to PS Plus


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Comment #106 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 08:58:00 PM
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I don't think we should have to pay to play online on either console.. we buy the console and games.. they should take care of that.. PS+ we pay to get some games and big discounts.. XBL we pay for um.. not much..

I think both should be free online, and you pay for "PS+ type service"


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Comment #107 by Floodgates
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 08:59:44 PM
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I have always been a xbox fan and also preordered xbox one. So with that being said don't take my comment on this matter as if I'm a Sony fan boy because that's far from true. IMO Microsoft have failed on all fronts this year. I feel that it's no longer about their community as much as how much they can make off the community. Sony being there main competitor offers newer retail games and Microsoft offers older games and arcade games for free. They gave the impression the free games would be retail and it was never mentioned that arcade titles would be part of the program. Then they wonder why the community is outraged. Lol seriously it's common sense. It doesn't take a marketing genuis to figure out how to compete with Sony or how to make your customers happy. I feel the need for a change of staff since the current staff is a total failure. Stop being so greedy and money hungry and you might come out financially better. As far as Defense Grid is concerned I personally like the game. But it's too old and not of the decent value you would expect. Also, not everyone can play defense games. It's a genre that is an acquired taste. So offering this style game is a but unfair to the community. Also, to all the people defending the actions of Microsoft and bashing others for feeling cheated you need to realize that just because you like something not everyone else does. We all pay for Xbox Live and the program should be fair and universal to all gamers. I can't wait to see what they offer next lol (Vampire Rain, Timeshift, etc.)


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Comment #108 by The Kingslayer
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 09:04:32 PM
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Typical Microsoft it's one step forward, two steps back with them.

I must have missed the memo but I was under the impression AC2 and Halo 3 were going to be the first two games given away for free. I wish they were as that's a good way to kick off the deal IMO.

I have no problem with throwing Arcade Titles in the mix I just don't see why they can't put all the titles available at once instead of just having an arcade as the first.


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Comment #109 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 09:14:54 PM
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@108 we all missed the memo.. MS support was telling people AC3 and Halo 3 were next.. so I guess they didn't get it either..

Arcade titles are fine.. don't see anyone on PS+ bitching we got The Cave for free.. do ya?


MS needs a TON of work.. I hope whoever replaces Don can turn this shit around.


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Comment #110 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 09:18:19 PM
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I am a little pissed as an xbox live ambassador, I was going by what MS support said and have telling all my friends what was next..

Thanks guys.. you made me feel like a fucking idiot.


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Comment #111 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 09:52:28 PM
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If they were going to put an arcade as the first.. should of put something better.. beyond good and evil, braid, deathspank, costume quest, super meat boy.. all old games but would buy a lot of PR


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Comment #112 by Fullbrook
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 10:01:05 PM
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Most of those have been 200 points at some point.. but fuck.. anyone who hasn't played them would appreciate getting them.. and anyone who has played them. would appreciate everyone else getting to play them.. WAKE UP MS.


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Comment #113 by samjustsam
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 10:29:27 PM
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lol@ the fanboy worship. free is free but this is NOT free. you need your 60 dollar a year membership and space on your hard drive and the time it takes to dl it. NOTHING is "free" with microsoft. is the dlc free? no. no one seems to see the scam that dlc has become. is sparticus worth the 2gb of space. i doubt it. if microsoft thinks this is some kind of "reward" to its gold members then they are wrong. its a middle finger. no disrespect to defense grid. ill dl it and even purchase the dlc for it if i like the game. demand more from ms. i was expecting ac2 this month though. i was under the impression from an article on here that it would be available for free this month and if it isnt then i will get it when it is.


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Comment #114 by samjustsam
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 10:36:11 PM
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extending the program is nice to hear though. the xbox one in my opinion wont even come close to matching their sales expectations so this is a smart move. i do understand ms has has to make money but damn..how much money do they need to make? o well..let the haters hate on me for expecting better i guess.


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Comment #115 by PSNgaviota1195
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:11:16 PM
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@114 Trust Me, Everyone here expected a lot more from the Xbox One. In my opinion, they deserved better.


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Comment #116 by Dragonmaster700
Monday, July 01, 2013 @ 11:16:14 PM
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Why continue it when so far its been basically pointless? So far its old GoD and a cheap XBLA game. Woohoo...Sorry, PS+ is much better so far.


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Comment #117 by Jake317
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 12:07:16 AM
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I'm downloading it just cus it's free and it's only rated a 2/10 difficulty, you can't beat free easy achievements, the downside is to get the full 300 Gamerscore you'd have to buy all 5 D.L.C.'s, for a total of 720 Microsoft points, which is $8.99 U.S.D.


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Comment #118 by GKane42
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 01:08:01 AM
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Free may be free, but quality is what should count. PS gets that with their Plus subscription. It's a nice try on Microsoft's part, but this is now way to catch up with them. I was looking forward to getting AC 2 this month. Idk maybe I still will.


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Comment #119 by G4M3 CHANGER
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 02:07:44 AM
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@109 you do realize that when they got the cave for free it was also with hitman absolution and sleeping dogs? it wasn't just 1 arcade title it was 3 arcade titles 6 retail games and 2 vita games so why would they bitch?

POOP STAIN MCGEE STRIKES AGAIN


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Comment #120 by singhellotaku617
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 03:08:05 AM
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My response....Defense grid? fucking defense grid? an ancient port of a indie pc game I bought off steam for $2 FIVE YEARS AGO, Fuck you buddy, sony gave me Disgaea 3, Borderlands,Spec Ops The Line and Resident Evil 5 among other things.


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Comment #121 by Nateboy1989
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 03:09:41 AM
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@118...Sure you may get "better quality" as you put it...but what you fail to realise is that once you cancel your ps+ sub you lose all of your games...you may get older xbox 360 games on a gold membership but those games are yours for good whether you revert back to silver or not...honestly. ..I'd rather make a one off payment for older games than to pay a yearly fee just to play and keep the latest AAA titles...

And people say Microsoft are the ripoffs...


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Comment #122 by singhellotaku617
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 03:10:13 AM
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The Cave, FF: Tactics, LBP2, Infamous 2, Ninja Gaiden re port re release 5....


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Comment #123 by DirtyHarryEIRE
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 06:00:53 AM
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ITS ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER. JUST NOT IMPRESSIVE FROM MICROSOFT...YET AGAIN.
WE AS THE LOYAL CUSTOMERS WANT CHOICE SO GIVE IT TO US.OFFER 4 GAMES UP A MONTH LET US PICK THE 2 WE WANT.GOING FROM FABLE 3 TO DEFENCE GRID DOES NOT SHOW "VISION" A WORD I HEARD SO MUCH AT E3


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Comment #124 by PSNgaviota1195
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 07:37:25 AM
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@121 Don't know if your aware, but you should read @49. It's a bit important.


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Comment #125 by MastrMeatWad
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 08:29:42 AM
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@123- Well that would be nice. What I suggest people do is "KINDLY" offer up what you would like to see with the Live membership to Major Nelson. I would like to find out who is in charge of marketing? Anyone know?
I think the last thing people should do is troll and use profanity at MS employees, but to offers suggestions on what you would like out of the program is constructive.
The way some people type and communicate online makes me wonder if they will bitch slap baristas at Starbucks when they start offering the same latte but for 10 cents more?


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Comment #126 by MastrMeatWad
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 08:47:40 AM
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I would love to see the promotion continue, grow, and be a part of a Gold Membership. A free game twice per month is great.
Look at it this way. Purchase a "one month" gold for the "horrible" price of $9.99, and receive online services and Two free games at a min. value of 800 MSP ($10) you make out with a fantastic deal.

Even better purchase 12 months of live when it goes on sale for $29-39 (that is what I usually pay) and if the promotion continues at aprx value of $20 or more per month, $240 of game per year. Then add the weekly DOTW, great online service, applications/cable services, and we have a fantastic service IMHO. Essentially you pay a small fee and obtain much more in value.


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Comment #127 by MastrMeatWad
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 09:00:21 AM
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BTW- The current sale is bad-A$$

Borderlands 2 for $10!


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Comment #128 by Zemnate
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 02:52:56 PM
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Eh. Defence Grid seems like an alright game but it wasn't expected. Fable 3 may have been a disappointment to die-hard Fable fans but it was still good. I expected Halo or Assassin's Creed to be released this month and then maybe some other games like Forza or Gears of War. Who knows what to expect now? Will we receive 1 arcade game and 1 retail game a month?

If we do get more arcade games, I'm definitely hoping for Trials ;)


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Comment #129 by The Kingslayer
Tuesday, July 02, 2013 @ 05:57:46 PM
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If Defense Grid, Halo 3 and ACII were free for all of July that would be one helluva way to kick off the scheme, but no that makes too much sense for Microsoft to do.


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Comment #130 by Nateboy1989
Wednesday, July 03, 2013 @ 02:11:41 AM
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@24...Yes i am aware of that...I'm pretty sure I mentioned that...


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Comment #131 by PhoenixWolfCub
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 09:58:46 AM
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To be as good as the PS+ service they would almost HAVE to continue it past December, no contest.

PS+ You get a ton of free games every month WITH NO END DATE. I have gotten SO many free games through PS+ it's unreal. And I've been with them for over 2 years now. PLUS the huge steam like discounts on other games. And it's not just all arcade games, there are a lot of really good games on there, even new games you can get for free if you're patient.

XBox Live? 2 free games a month until December... and a lot of them arcade titles. Yeah there is the benefit of still playing those games if you cancel your account, but in that case where exactly is the motivation to actually renew this account?

PS+ = Tons of free games and game discounts monthly with no end date... Xbox live, 2 free games a month until December... Ya know, with all the stuff I get from PS+ I do not mind renewing my subscription yearly. Sony has a good plan, it makes me WANT to keep my account.

No contest. Step it up Microsoft, make me want your service, cause at this point there really is no reason for me to ever resub.


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Comment #132 by PhoenixWolfCub
Saturday, July 06, 2013 @ 10:03:38 AM
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Oh, tho I suppose if you have Netflix you're pretty much forced into a XBox Live sub anyway along with your Netflix sub to actually WATCH Netflix from the Xbox. So I guess that's a reason to keep the sub (if you're like me and not a hard core Multiplayer gamer). In that case I'm even happier to say bye to the Gold Sub and watch Netflix from my PS3/PS4 for free (since it won't be and isn't gated behind the "online banner" like on the Xbox).

I used to love Xbox, and I still love my 360. But am just very disenchanted with the service, they can do better.


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