Half Life 2: The Orange Box
Valve to Include Achievements in the 360 Team Fortress Update
Written Tuesday, September 23, 2008 By Dan Webb
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In a recent interview with 1UP, Valve's Gabe Newell mentioned that the huge Team Fortress 2 update that is due for the Xbox 360 in the next few months will include achievements.

This is despite the original title having 99 achievements and The Orange Box could become the first game to break the 100 achievement mark. Newell said, when talking about charges for the pack and the inclusion of achievements that:

"One of the reasons you have to charge for the update is so that you can have more Achievements. That's one of the several ways that Microsoft pushes you. Since we're charging for the update, we can add the same set of Achievements that have been added on the PC side."

I'm not sure that it's possible to take that out of context, so have Microsoft really let the reins loose on their achievement policies? Is Newell just assuming they'll be cool with it? Only time will tell, but more Team Fortress 2 achievements can't be bad.


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Comment #1 by Winged Fish
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:16:51 PM
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Comment #2 by jond
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:17:21 PM
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:) cool. i just dont understand why they add more achievements to games. they are fun to get but why cant they just deal with the 1000. (Halo....tsk tsk tsk)

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Comment #3 by NTA RazmaGT
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:17:24 PM
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Wow, achievement levels are really going over the egde now. But more points is always good.

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Comment #4 by corky2008
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:17:31 PM
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this sounds sweet :P

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Comment #5 by Suplemental
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:19:30 PM
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dnt no why ppl complin we are all gs whore who us this site evey1 sud welcome this wid open arms!! i no i will!

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Comment #6 by TyrantJester
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:25:04 PM
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While I have 1000 in this game, I think I may pass on the DLC considering I have three free updates, with achievements, on my PC version.

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Comment #7 by dakisbac
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:25:44 PM
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No complaints, but they should really stomp down on their rules.

Since 1750 has just happened, I'd say 100 achievements max for 2000 GS

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Comment #8 by Zacxx2011
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:28:55 PM
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2k FTW!

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Comment #9 by YanksForTheWin
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:32:43 PM
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Yummy. I still need my 1000 kills and Aperture Science achievement though. :(

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Comment #10 by WhAtThEaPpLeSaUcE17
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:37:41 PM
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Doesn't everyone hate how good games take soooo long for fricking bonus achievements. I wish they came out like a month or two after. The game starts to get boring after you get the achievements becausae their is nothing left to do.

Gamertag: FeArLeSsDK17

Message me if you want to. I have most of the new releases and we can play together or something.

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Comment #11 by Hells Zargon
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:46:12 PM
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Let's hope that after those extra 750GS points addded to Halo Microsoft will allow The Orange Box to have a similar points limit. 250/500GS for this update and another 250/500GS for future updates.

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Comment #12 by Vernox
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:47:07 PM
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I have a good 20 something left, mainly thanks to Portal. But I enjoy playing TF2 and can't wait for some new shit. It sucks that on the PC we get it for free, while Microsoft and Sony will make us charge extra for it.

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Comment #13 by puma
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:48:05 PM
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some people need to learn how to spell. i can't read some of these responses. looking at you #5

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Comment #14 by panicky
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:49:51 PM
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i don't even have 1000 in this game yet, might start making the effort to work on it more often now.

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Comment #15 by dakisbac
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:56:05 PM
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"dnt no why ppl complin we are all gs whore who us this site evey1 sud welcome this wid open arms!! i no i will!"

Translation: I don't know why people are complaining, everyone who uses this site is a gamerscore whore. So welcome this with open arms, I know I will.

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Comment #16 by PHIN1SH
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:02:07 AM
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Unless this is free i dont care. I have the PC version and it is soo much better. Still like the 360 version tho

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Comment #17 by Colorado718
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:05:42 AM
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at #15 - You sir, are my hero for the day.

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Comment #18 by Zee
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:14:02 AM
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I'm so glad people are happy paying for something that is free. Especially after valve said they will not charge a cent for updates.

Well I'm glad I got it for the pc. I get free things for free.

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Comment #19 by Tussell
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:22:57 AM
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Should be interesting.

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Comment #20 by Webb [STAFF]
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:27:18 AM
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@ Zee - Take a read of the whole interview at 1UP. Valve are just as unhappy about it as you but it's Microsoft policy. Really, really good interview that covers loads of topics. Link in the article.

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Comment #21 by Diaxen
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:31:16 AM
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New TF2 achievements would be bad because 1) the game is pretty boring and 2) the achievements they released for the PC were just pathetic and unneeded.

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Comment #22 by Diaxen
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:34:40 AM
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Oh, and another thing the achievements did was break the game since everyone went gaga playing those classes trying to get the achievements. Don't even think about adding achievements Valve!

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Comment #23 by Diaxen
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:35:27 AM
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"one of the Heavy Achievements is to eat 100 sandwiches"

C'mon, what kind of achievement is that!

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Comment #24 by Atarii
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:54:30 AM
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I just began playing TF2 again after a few months and I gotta say I likely won't buy any DLC for this game, it's not worth it to me.

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Comment #25 by Reclaiming Dawn
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:19:13 AM
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Finally. Now the kids whining about Halo getting more achievements will shut up.

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Comment #26 by spiderlillyx187
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:19:22 AM
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havnt played it in ages, great game tho.

loved the achievement progress bar.

not too keen about paying for updates tho.

they must think we r achievement whores.

im sure if they wanted they cud make it free even withut achievement points.

too many games out next few months.

Im just sick of m$oft trying to screw us for every $$$

my mate only plays ps3 now as their network access is free

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Comment #27 by Marx0r
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:30:25 AM
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Aren't some of the PC achievements impossible on the 360?

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Comment #28 by SuperTongue
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:30:31 AM
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I've gotta say, that's a shitload of achievements.

Considering the three current class updates total up a whopping 115 achievements total, that would make the game have... 214 achievements! At this rate, considering they would be doing it 3 classes at a time and there are nine classes... if I did my math correctly, there would be an incredible amount of 444 achievements total.

Now that's if they release all 9 class updates. I'm probably not going to buy this considering I've got it for free on the PC and the 360 version blows when it comes to multiplayer hosting.

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Comment #29 by ReD S1X
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:46:43 AM
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WOB WOB! I hope the achievements are more interesting than before and it better involve with the sandvich

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Comment #30 by Are You Dead Yet
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:50:47 AM
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I love this game, more reason to play it ftw!

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Comment #31 by ThrawnOmega
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:55:00 AM
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I love points as much as everyone else (57k score...) but I don't like the idea of standards going out the window with a 750 for halo and 100+ achievements in Orange Box. This creates the potential for games with 200 five point achievements, or games with too many points. Is Gears 2 going to get 1000 DLC points? I love points, but I want games to have fixed values. I don't like the presedents these exceptions create. If games have more and more points, those old 1,000s feel less significant, and you'll see score inflation where 100k scores wouldn't be as impressive as they are now. That's what I think.

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Comment #32 by callofdutyachievements
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 01:57:22 AM
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Yay! I haven't been playing the orange box that much( 870g,) but more is good to make me play again!

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Comment #33 by ryfry99
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 02:00:50 AM
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YEA! cant wait

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Comment #34 by omgyjya_switch7
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 02:02:40 AM
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Excellent game, I cannot wait for more achievements so I have a reason to drop Halo 3 and get back on TF2. Far more fun and rewarding, just a shame there are so little maps and no dedicated servers. If Valve sort these two simple problems TF2 would easily be my favorite FPS.

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Comment #35 by quotrice
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:14:42 AM
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Comment #2 u fail why not have more achievements

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Comment #36 by SuperTongue
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:18:13 AM
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@ #34

Valve did have cross-platform working between the 360 and PC, but Microsoft stepped in and said "no" to that. If it weren't for Microsoft, you'd have the amazing dedicated servers us PC players have. And possibly even the custom maps! (That's a long shot though.)

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Comment #37 by SuperTongue
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:21:34 AM
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@ Myself

I checked my sources and it seems it was Valve's fault, not Microsoft. I can understand why the game wasn't cross platform (it would have had to be a Games for Windows game, thus complicating it's integration with Valve's Steam), so it would have honestly been a huge hassle for Valve to go through.

Hell, at least they are supporting the title for 360. Good thing those of us here didn't get it for the PS3. (Though I do have a PS3...)

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Comment #38 by TA Sasuke
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:25:55 AM
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wait, so we are getting all of the Class Achievements from the PC version? that is almost 100 more achievements! FUUUUCK that rocks.

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Comment #39 by Poisonheadcrab
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:54:07 AM
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It seems as if the beta testers (PC players) of the content updates will finally have their work and opinions shown off for the 360 crowd...

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Comment #40 by XPaRiShx
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 04:49:41 AM
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YES! Man Xbox is finally starting to get good again! Duke Nukem 3D on the arcade, new achievements for the Orange Box, Fable 2 soon! I'm stoked!

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Comment #41 by Crazy Best
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 05:01:26 AM
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Due in a few months? Please, I will be busy with Gears 2, Left 4 Dead, and countless other co-op games such as Fable 2 and Resident Evil 5. Then add Street Fighter IV, Call of Duty WaW, etc. Where will the time be in a few months?

Valve raped 360 customers. GTFO. imo. kthx.

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Comment #42 by KingSigy
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 05:05:37 AM
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This is pretty good info, but it is not that surprising. Halo 3 broke the 1250 barrier just recently but a full 500 points, so I don't see why Valve wouldn't be able to do the same.

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Comment #43 by marbig
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 07:07:14 AM
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Awesome. I was hoping to be able to get back in TF2.

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Comment #44 by eXtreme 1138
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 07:08:39 AM
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The more the merrier.

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Comment #45 by BigApple3AM
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 07:17:32 AM
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I love DLC and I love extra points!

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Comment #46 by daninthemix
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 08:11:19 AM
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Total bullshit. Why stop their? Why not have games with 10,000 points and 900 achievements. The system is becoming completely devalued.

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Comment #47 by Crimson Ridley
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:04:58 AM
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Only problem is, they will be for the worst game on the disc. I want more Portal Achievements. Hell, even Platinum Challenges, I've done the Gold :p.

Now I have to go buy the game again, but oh well, it's in my top 5 favourite games!

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Comment #48 by SuperGaz
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:16:12 AM
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@ 31 i totally agree, games need to have some sort of boundries otheriwise its just going devalue the achievements from a completionists point of view

i dont want to say "yes finally 1000/1000 fully complete" then have to do another 1000 in 3 months and another in 6 months. There would be no sense of closure it would get annoying.

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Comment #49 by Simo13
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:31:47 AM
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too bad i sold this a few weeks ago, as i hadnt played it in a long time, oh well, if TF2 is still laggy as hell when this rolls out im not bothered

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Comment #50 by Ham Woopan
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:40:02 AM
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So wait, the achievements ARE 100% going to count towards your gamerscore? Each achievement will have a set value? Just want to be sure, since I've heard that they might not come with any gamerscore. Much like the PC achievements.

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Comment #51 by knockton55
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 02:00:53 PM
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Oh great cool :D!

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Comment #52 by Insane Sugar Rush
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 03:54:34 PM
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Comment #53 by Daywalker-san
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 04:05:57 PM
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Comment #54 by Slarak
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 05:16:33 PM
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Bah, I've got this on PC and all the updates are free and the gameplay gets old way to fast.

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Comment #55 by Axe Argonian
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 05:32:45 PM
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I need to pay for this update?! That's lame!

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Comment #56 by Daywalker-san
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 06:39:38 PM
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Your not paying for an update, you paying for New Maps, a New game mode, new wepons and at least 250 points of achivements

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Comment #57 by ROA5T BeeF
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 06:51:18 PM
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Unless microsoft understands that there are games better than Halo (such as Half-Life), this update with extra TF2 achievments could be bad... If Valve releases HL2: Episode 3 as DLC on the Orange Box, then microsoft prob wont let them add another 250 pts for achvmnts... That would suck. But then again Episode 3 could be its own game...

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Comment #58 by The Nick316
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 07:52:13 PM
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#57 - Episode 3 will probably be its own game. I doubt them releasing it as DLC with 250 points. They wouldnt make enough money from it to warrant it. Plus I think it would be too big as well.

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Comment #59 by Axe Argonian
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 08:46:59 PM
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How much will they charge for this?

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Comment #60 by Dysitis
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 09:30:05 PM
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If they give us all those medic achievements that the pc has, then the game will just turn into a total boost fest. And any game that isn't a boosting match, everyone will be medics or one of the other classes with achievements. It will completely ruin the multiplayer. Well it's not as if I play it anymore. TOB was a hard game to complete and now I'm gonna have to drop some money and do a lot of boosting if I want to keep it completed. I'd rather they not release these achievements to be honest.

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Comment #61 by Hells Zargon
Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 12:57:16 AM
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In reply to 58.

I think they'll probably release Episode 3 packaged with another game, possibly Portal 2. Who knows what they're planning.

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Comment #62 by Dillagence
Monday, October 06, 2008 @ 01:00:34 PM
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Aren't some of the PC achievements impossible on the 360?

^^ Totally, the bulk of my achievements have been done on achievement servers with help from friends or other players.

I just got 1000/1000 for this game and I am more than happy to leave it that way :) no DLC for me

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Comment #63 by bobocum
Tuesday, July 28, 2009 @ 12:38:46 AM
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So, this coming out?

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Comment #64 by Night45Fox
Thursday, August 06, 2009 @ 12:00:05 AM
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TF2 has over 250 achievements on the pc version lol.

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Comment #65 by Flyin Narwhal 62
Monday, August 17, 2009 @ 08:16:23 PM
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is this gonna come out or no?

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Comment #66 by EnglishCarBomb
Thursday, March 18, 2010 @ 02:05:21 PM
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I'm starting to think this actually isn't coming out. Shockingly. Shame since it's such an amazing game (on the PC anyway) and the 360 community is pretty much, understandably, dead.

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Comment #67 by Phenoviral
Thursday, April 15, 2010 @ 02:13:36 PM
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"... the huge Team Fortress 2 update that is due for the Xbox 360 -in the next few months- will include achievements ..."


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Comment #68 by Hand of Blood52
Monday, May 17, 2010 @ 03:07:52 AM
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This is never going to come out what a shame... ):

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Comment #69 by DigitalTru7h
Tuesday, June 29, 2010 @ 02:25:09 PM
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Man, when is this happening :(

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Comment #70 by Phenoviral
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 01:35:17 PM
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Maybe when they finish updating every one of the classes on the PC, they'll release it all as a huge big pack for the Xbox 360.

However, there's a cap on achievements. There's supposed to be only room for one more. My guess is that they'll have one achievement called:
'Go and Do Everything New, that we have allowed you to do,
by finally releasing that big massive update for the game Team Fortress 2'.

And it's gonna be worth 750MP.


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Comment #71 by Phenoviral
Thursday, July 15, 2010 @ 01:36:28 PM
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Then again, probably not.

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Comment #72 by thecrusher1234
Thursday, August 12, 2010 @ 10:31:42 PM
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almost 2 years... this hasn't happened. its almost like g.w. bush is running valve.

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Comment #73 by Elite Ranger
Sunday, August 22, 2010 @ 06:51:31 PM
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@72 your a fag I think you mean obama

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Comment #74 by EricDC
Thursday, December 16, 2010 @ 12:57:58 PM
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@73 haha you are an idiot. Almost as stupid as bush himself. damn redneck hicks...

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Comment #75 by Corndoghero
Tuesday, January 11, 2011 @ 03:26:51 AM
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@74 lol ur dumb *says something political*

just continuing the chain

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Comment #76 by Atheist Assassin
Saturday, February 12, 2011 @ 08:04:35 PM
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trading fists of steel!

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Comment #77 by Deminish
Monday, August 15, 2011 @ 10:01:14 PM
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LOL! valve time. So, where's the DLC. XD

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Comment #78 by tomloiodice
Wednesday, March 21, 2012 @ 01:33:59 AM
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da fuq.

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Comment #79 by CaptainMustardo
Wednesday, May 30, 2012 @ 12:34:28 AM
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Ha. All talk no follow through.

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